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Edited by
misswright
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Fri 10/11/13 08:04 AM
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Thanks Missy.
Well said Isaac. I too see that men have had to evolve a great deal, first for the women's revolution to even occur as you stated, and secondly to deal with the consequences of it. Is it harder to learn how to work outside the home or how to nurture a child with love and patience? Women have come a long way in becoming more man-like if I may, supporting themselves and/or their families financially, becoming physically stronger, and learning to push the limits of what they can accomplish on their own. Men have had to become more women-like, learning to express emotions and become more sensitive and caring towards others while still appearing the pillar of strength. If a woman cries, she's seen as emotionally in touch with her feelings. If a man cries, he's seen as a wuss. If a woman builds a fence, she's a real go-getter. If a man does it, big whoop, he built a fence. Who's got it harder when it comes to change then? Women have grown physically while men have grown emotionally. It's harder to lift someone's spirits than to throw a bag of dog food over your shoulder. Perhaps not the perfect analogy but I think I've made my point. |
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Crystalfairy you started this topic by saying "women had advanced or evolved more than men"; now, you say it's not about gender when you specifically made it a gender issue by stating that one gender did it quicker than the other. Then you said it was not about gender so we should just drop this way of thinking. Great let's do THAT - DROP IT!
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Women are sexually superior to Men
Men are socially superior to Women It is what it is... No gender is more "advanced"... In my opinion Ladies
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Women are sexually superior to Men Men are socially superior to Women It is what it is... No gender is more "advanced"... In my opinion Ladies
Suck up. |
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Yes it's personal growth, but personal growth is part of the bigger picture, a more overall process of change. And yes, everyone goes through this process his/her own way, at his/her own pace. But overall there is a difference between genders. I don't see how ppl can keep coming up with the argument that one gender is better. Maybe think why YOU interpret it that way, cause I don't. Judge not ... and in the same breath say it's hogwash, lol What about this, for ppl who don't agree I'll make it a hypothetical statement: Woman had the opportunity to grow, evolve, become more empowered, because men helped us do so. While we were/are growing through all these processes, they held the fort, made sure the world kept turning and basically kept a framework intact to keep things stable and going, while we were experimenting, learning, sometimes kicking up dirt to find out what was underneath and so on. If men hadn't done that, our growth, change, would not have been possible. Meaning men supported women, it's teamwork. This is mostly not a conscious process, it seemed to just happen, but it's part of this bigger process. Now roles are (about to) reverse, meaning men will have the opportunity to grow, evolve etc. while we women support them, hold the fort, provide a framework for them to learn. As we've already come far, we are able to better support them, so men might go through their change much faster than we did. It's NOT to do with better, superior, not at all. If you can see the bigger picture, it's just a wonderful process all of mankind is going through and men help women and vice versa. If both genders would have entered this process simultaneously, this would have let to utter chaos and neither would have had a proper opportunity to grow and evolve. As women were in an inferior position when this process took off, it wouldn't have been feasible, if at all possible, to have men be the first to change. In the end it doesn't matter which gender was first or last, it's NOT a competition! It is about evolution of mankind and the best possible way to achieve this. It's quite patriarchal (which is the old way that we've been brainwashed with for over a thousand years) to think one gender is better, that's exactly the way of thinking we need to dump. In response to the bold statement you made above. Did you not see the space between the paragraphs? 
I said "Judge not lest ye be judged" in response to your statement from the original post, and I quote: "Many men still have a lot of skeletons in their wake, don't understand the concept of inner strength, or they do understand it but don't have a clue how to achieve it.". You can't judge somebody's inner strength. You just can't so that's why I said that. The hogwash statement is separate, hence the change to a new paragraph and not in the same breath. That was said in response to your blanket statement that women are, and I quote again from the topic title, "more advanced" when it comes to personal growth and development. Is it better to be more advanced or less advanced? So you kinda implied that women are better than men because they are more advanced, whether you meant to or not. And apparently I'm not the only one that read it that way or you wouldn't be receiving some of the responses you have, from both men and women coincidentally. You didn't really expect everybody to see it your way did you? That doesn't sound like very advanced thinking... 
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.... Biology between the two genders haven't changed, what did change was one gender willing to listen, to a gender that is biologically weaker than them , and they decided to throw the "warrior mentality" out, so instead of beating women down, they chose listen and adapt. ..... Wow, what a bold statement: women are BIOLOGICALLY weaker??? Is this part of the evolved US cultural view on women you keep mentioning? - Empowerment is not about women's rights. Don't know why you keep latching on to that. Maybe we (as in "everyone here") should talk about what it means to be truly empowered. - Yes, it's a process in which both men and women had/have a part. Never said otherwise Some other interesting things: - A number of women jump to the defense of men. - a number of women mentioned they respect and embrace men and what they add to the mix (myself included) Now where are the men that do the same thing and show this respect? Instead a number of men took the piss out of women (and most women didn't even notice it nor reacted to it --> I guess we're still used to this derogatory treatment) Apart from that men jump to their own defenses, as if they've been attacked, which isn't the case at all. Have you seen women take the piss out of men? Aren't these different overall reactions from men and women a clear sign that their IS a difference in growth and being evolved? |
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My boyfriend is very smart and mature. Of course he is much older than me, so how mature was he at my age? Who knows.
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Edited by
sparkyae5
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Fri 10/11/13 08:33 AM
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johnn,,,,,,,not......its ying and yany,,both have a part,,,,,nobody is superior...
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Edited by
JOHNN111
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Fri 10/11/13 08:36 AM
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Women are sexually superior to Men Men are socially superior to Women It is what it is... No gender is more "advanced"... In my opinion Ladies
Suck up. Just follow my lead wingman  
johnn,,,,,,,not......
I know the truth hurts bro... suck it up |
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@ MissRight: unbelievable you agree with Isaac's statement that women are BIOLOGICALLY weaker!
@ Missy, you twist and turn my words and/or rip them out of context. If you enjoy that, fair enough, but I find it rather immature. This is becoming a tit for tat game instead of an interesting exchange of views. In spite of that, I hope I made some ppl think outside their box.
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I agreed with Isaac's statement in its entirety, not just that one specific part, although I have to agree with him there too. Biology and genetic studies have shown that men have a higher muscle mass to fat ratio than women, in general. Men have more advanced spatial mapping than women. Women have more advanced sections of the brain that deal with emotions than men. These are facts based on years and years of research, not merely opinions. It was evolutionarily advantageous for us as a species to be this way.
Men were the hunters and needed strength to venture far from home to get food, hence their superior physical strength and mapping abilities 'cause they damn sure needed to come back or everybody starved. There wasn't a McDonalds on every corner. Women were responsible for raising offspring which required her to have larger stores of fat to exist off while sharing the nourishment she was receiving from the man for the child. There wasn't a bottle of formula sitting on the PigglyWiggly shelf next door. Sure times have changed and we are all evolving thanks to technology and modern advancements, but biological changes take hundreds if not thousands of years to manifest over many, many generations. Men and women are most definitely built differently, biologically speaking. Men in general are build for physical strength while women are built for emotional strength. The attitudes may be changing but the human body will take much much longer to catch up, biologically speaking. Doesn't mean either sex is better than the other. We need both to keep the human race alive after all! 
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Lolzzz
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Then they see a spider or a mouse and all that " advancement " goes out the window!
Yeah right. I have seen grown men scream when seeing a mouse and all I do is laugh. I also have had to remove spiders from a man's office because he was terrified of it. Heck; I even have removed snakes from my brother's garden as he is afraid of snakes. Sorry; this kind of thinking is out of date.
What's the matter pumpkin? Threatened by a strong woman?
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She cant be... she has ur support... but im scared of u...
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Edited by
navygirl
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Fri 10/11/13 10:00 AM
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Crystal Fairy; I am sorry that people here have misconstrued what you are talking about. They quickly turn it into the battle of the sexes rather than having an exchange of views. There are still those that have old fashioned ideas and will never see beyond that as I said early, they simply can't conceive thinking outside of the box. I think it was a good topic though and you put a lot of thought in to what you wrote. In military terms I give you a Bravo Zulu which in civilian terms means well done.
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HmmmGRAAAAAH! How dare you!
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 leigh2154 , Well spoken !!!
We r the sum of our experiences , Mayb good , Mayb bad ? These experiences define our nature , character , attitudes and importantly perception of who we really r as individuals and how we interact in reality ? ( mentally sound only ) Role models !! They r very important !! If u dont have positive role models u will unfortunately pick up a number of negitive vices !!! Hopefully yr lovers will not generalise the hole gender species as being all like that experience ??? Most males , per say are looking for positive female role models , Such as their mothers !!! ( Only if mother was positive role model ) They need to feel protected , cared for , encouraged , valued , rewarded , and feel special. We then as males , will seek a mate , that is defined by our perceptions of that reality !!! naturally we will rebel behaviourly if our perception dose'nt live up to our expectations !!! I believe that principle applies to our female counterparts also. We then must struggle as couples to take those variables and mold them together in a ever evolving world !!! If our couple can then get to kno their companions traits ( good and bad ) well ? Set plans and goals in advance with stiff resolve and committment !!! The journey shud b challenging as it always is in any endeavour !!! But if u can always show yr partner the traits that first attracted u to them !!! protection , gentleness , Strength , whatever it mayb !!! Hopefully yr relationship can pull through ??? There are no guarantees !!! Bad choices in life have their consequences !!! minimal conflict and mature communication !!! I dont know it all ?? My dreams and her dreams must be respected at all times !!! It is a fine balance where u get 2 winners !! Safe journey |
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Then they see a spider or a mouse and all that " advancement " goes out the window!
Yeah right. I have seen grown men scream when seeing a mouse and all I do is laugh. I also have had to remove spiders from a man's office because he was terrified of it. Heck; I even have removed snakes from my brother's garden as he is afraid of snakes. Sorry; this kind of thinking is out of date.
What's the matter pumpkin? Threatened by a strong woman?
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Right im away to the f*****g pub. Good day to you all, While you're at it, you may wanna think why you get so angry about this all, and why again you feel it's totally okay to knock women like you wouldn't believe. To lower myself to your level for a sec: god has given you a f**kig brain, you might wanna use it for thinking for a change instead of raging like a mad bull. Very sorry about this, but you go just a bit too far. If you have no respect for women whatsoever, what are you doing on a dating site? Crystal Fairy; I am sorry that people here have misconstrued what you are talking about. They quickly turn it into the battle of the sexes rather than having an exchange of views. There are still those that have old fashioned ideas and will never see beyond that as I said early, they simply can't conceive thinking outside of the box. I think it was a good topic though and you put a lot of thought in to what you wrote. In military terms I give you a Bravo Zulu which in civilian terms means well done.
Thank you Navygirl
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U know u bore me
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