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If atheistic and agnostic students want to control what is said in valedictorian speeches, then they should strive to become valedictorians. THIS.... IF I am to give a speech about what graduating and the future hold, I should be able to give it from my personal expression,,,, so long as it doesnt involve actually 'attacking' others,,,I dont see the issue |
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just for the sake of it, what if you found out you were wrong? what if you found out that your son was very hurt by your rejection of such an important part of his life and didn't tell you? what would you do? Id continue to reinforce that I love him by all the other actions that love consists of Id continue to reinforce that I value him as a person and I REFUSE to define him or his value by his sexual lifestyle and Id continue to reinforce that as his mom, its my job to want what is healthy for him, even when he may have a preference for something else,,, that it is BECAUSE I love him that I care enough not to cave in and pretend its ok or healthy ,, BECAUSE Im his mom Im gonna be HONEST with him when I think his decisions are not healthy but he already knows this, it is strongly enforced in my family that love is not about saying I dont care if,,,,,,,,as long as you're "happy" parents who do that just to make kids happy, generally can put a period after the CARE. I do care, thats why I want him to be healthy which his lifestyle is not,,,,he understands that,,,,even if he doesnt agree or would rather me accept it,, he understands the reason for the disapproval is LOVE,,,just like my reason for everything else in his life since he was born,,,,, HE is quite SMART that way,,,,, If you say so........I still am betting there's more he doesn't say but that's just a guess........ and regardless of good intentions love in such a way can still be misguided love and harm. the idea that to be loved means people must approve of whatever makes you happy is misguided,,, I disagree......if they are happy with their life and not harming themselves in a clear way (your opinions doesn't mean it's harm), it should not be an issue. Their happiness should mean more than your personal morals do, and I find it sad that you choose that instead. |
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wonder if he would have been so brave,say,in Saudi Arabia?
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I just don't see what's so brave about praying.
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just for the sake of it, what if you found out you were wrong? what if you found out that your son was very hurt by your rejection of such an important part of his life and didn't tell you? what would you do? Id continue to reinforce that I love him by all the other actions that love consists of Id continue to reinforce that I value him as a person and I REFUSE to define him or his value by his sexual lifestyle and Id continue to reinforce that as his mom, its my job to want what is healthy for him, even when he may have a preference for something else,,, that it is BECAUSE I love him that I care enough not to cave in and pretend its ok or healthy ,, BECAUSE Im his mom Im gonna be HONEST with him when I think his decisions are not healthy but he already knows this, it is strongly enforced in my family that love is not about saying I dont care if,,,,,,,,as long as you're "happy" parents who do that just to make kids happy, generally can put a period after the CARE. I do care, thats why I want him to be healthy which his lifestyle is not,,,,he understands that,,,,even if he doesnt agree or would rather me accept it,, he understands the reason for the disapproval is LOVE,,,just like my reason for everything else in his life since he was born,,,,, HE is quite SMART that way,,,,, If you say so........I still am betting there's more he doesn't say but that's just a guess........ and regardless of good intentions love in such a way can still be misguided love and harm. the idea that to be loved means people must approve of whatever makes you happy is misguided,,, I disagree......if they are happy with their life and not harming themselves in a clear way (your opinions doesn't mean it's harm), it should not be an issue. Their happiness should mean more than your personal morals do, and I find it sad that you choose that instead. its sad people believe that lifestyle isnt harmful,, but,, cest la vie,, |
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I just don't see what's so brave about praying. for me, its brave to take a risk for no personal gain in a country , culture, that is more and more villifying religion, trying to subliminally ban it on any public level,,,,its risky to go against the pc grain and stand up to the potential public scrutiny over ones choices (sound familiar?) |
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I just don't see what's so brave about praying. for me, its brave to take a risk for no personal gain in a country , culture, that is more and more villifying religion, trying to subliminally ban it on any public level,,,,its risky to go against the pc grain and stand up to the potential public scrutiny over ones choices (sound familiar?) Religion and praying are definitely personal, though. And by praying in public in front of large groups of people, you're doing so because you choose to do so. It's all about personal choice. |
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I just don't see what's so brave about praying. for me, its brave to take a risk for no personal gain in a country , culture, that is more and more villifying religion, trying to subliminally ban it on any public level,,,,its risky to go against the pc grain and stand up to the potential public scrutiny over ones choices (sound familiar?) Religion and praying are definitely personal, though. And by praying in public in front of large groups of people, you're doing so because you choose to do so. It's all about personal choice. so is sex and romance,, in the opinion of many but that doesnt mean that those feelings or expression should have to be exclusively in private,,,, and a culture that encourages the choice for some, should encourage it for all,,,, yes, every action is about personal choice,,, |
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I just don't see what's so brave about praying. for me, its brave to take a risk for no personal gain in a country , culture, that is more and more villifying religion, trying to subliminally ban it on any public level,,,,its risky to go against the pc grain and stand up to the potential public scrutiny over ones choices (sound familiar?) Religion and praying are definitely personal, though. And by praying in public in front of large groups of people, you're doing so because you choose to do so. It's all about personal choice. so is sex and romance,, in the opinion of many but that doesnt mean that those feelings or expression should have to be exclusively in private,,,, and a culture that encourages the choice for some, should encourage it for all,,,, yes, every action is about personal choice,,, Difference though is......those things are exclusive to the people expressing those emotions/doing those things, religion and praying are not so much in this setting. |
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I just don't see what's so brave about praying. for me, its brave to take a risk for no personal gain in a country , culture, that is more and more villifying religion, trying to subliminally ban it on any public level,,,,its risky to go against the pc grain and stand up to the potential public scrutiny over ones choices (sound familiar?) Religion and praying are definitely personal, though. And by praying in public in front of large groups of people, you're doing so because you choose to do so. It's all about personal choice. so is sex and romance,, in the opinion of many but that doesnt mean that those feelings or expression should have to be exclusively in private,,,, and a culture that encourages the choice for some, should encourage it for all,,,, yes, every action is about personal choice,,, Sex and romance have nothing to do with what we're discussing, though. We're not talking about people getting up in front of crowds and having sex. |
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I just don't see what's so brave about praying. for me, its brave to take a risk for no personal gain in a country , culture, that is more and more villifying religion, trying to subliminally ban it on any public level,,,,its risky to go against the pc grain and stand up to the potential public scrutiny over ones choices (sound familiar?) Religion and praying are definitely personal, though. And by praying in public in front of large groups of people, you're doing so because you choose to do so. It's all about personal choice. so is sex and romance,, in the opinion of many but that doesnt mean that those feelings or expression should have to be exclusively in private,,,, and a culture that encourages the choice for some, should encourage it for all,,,, yes, every action is about personal choice,,, Sex and romance have nothing to do with what we're discussing, though. We're not talking about people getting up in front of crowds and having sex.  the topic is stretched thin...
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Pretty much.
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it seems to me that graduation day is the kids day, not anyone elses... they all worked hard to get on the podium, and some bureaucrat teacher should not interfere with what they want... the police state is getting worse, as they have been targeting kids here as of late...
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I just don't see what's so brave about praying. for me, its brave to take a risk for no personal gain in a country , culture, that is more and more villifying religion, trying to subliminally ban it on any public level,,,,its risky to go against the pc grain and stand up to the potential public scrutiny over ones choices (sound familiar?) Religion and praying are definitely personal, though. And by praying in public in front of large groups of people, you're doing so because you choose to do so. It's all about personal choice. so is sex and romance,, in the opinion of many but that doesnt mean that those feelings or expression should have to be exclusively in private,,,, and a culture that encourages the choice for some, should encourage it for all,,,, yes, every action is about personal choice,,, Difference though is......those things are exclusive to the people expressing those emotions/doing those things, religion and praying are not so much in this setting. it isnt exclusive, two people may engage in an action with each other, but in the public setting I have to have my EYES subject to it, ,unless I leave or cover them similarly, if one person ENGAGES in an action with their mouth, in a public setting, others only have to have their EARS subject to it, unless they leave or cover them there is no difference, participation is voluntary,, however you spin it,,, |
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I just don't see what's so brave about praying. for me, its brave to take a risk for no personal gain in a country , culture, that is more and more villifying religion, trying to subliminally ban it on any public level,,,,its risky to go against the pc grain and stand up to the potential public scrutiny over ones choices (sound familiar?) Religion and praying are definitely personal, though. And by praying in public in front of large groups of people, you're doing so because you choose to do so. It's all about personal choice. so is sex and romance,, in the opinion of many but that doesnt mean that those feelings or expression should have to be exclusively in private,,,, and a culture that encourages the choice for some, should encourage it for all,,,, yes, every action is about personal choice,,, Sex and romance have nothing to do with what we're discussing, though. We're not talking about people getting up in front of crowds and having sex. we are talking about the appropriateness of 'private' (by the opinion of OTHERS) behaviors in a public setting so it does have everything to do with the discussion, its an analogy made to make a point of how CHOICE of public behavior ,public expression, should be protected for all and not just some ,,, |
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I just don't see what's so brave about praying. for me, its brave to take a risk for no personal gain in a country , culture, that is more and more villifying religion, trying to subliminally ban it on any public level,,,,its risky to go against the pc grain and stand up to the potential public scrutiny over ones choices (sound familiar?) Religion and praying are definitely personal, though. And by praying in public in front of large groups of people, you're doing so because you choose to do so. It's all about personal choice. so is sex and romance,, in the opinion of many but that doesnt mean that those feelings or expression should have to be exclusively in private,,,, and a culture that encourages the choice for some, should encourage it for all,,,, yes, every action is about personal choice,,, Difference though is......those things are exclusive to the people expressing those emotions/doing those things, religion and praying are not so much in this setting. it isnt exclusive, two people may engage in an action with each other, but in the public setting I have to have my EYES subject to it, ,unless I leave or cover them similarly, if one person ENGAGES in an action with their mouth, in a public setting, others only have to have their EARS subject to it, unless they leave or cover them there is no difference, participation is voluntary,, however you spin it,,, isn't there enough gay topics around were this one isn't taken over by this crap? |
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it seems to me that graduation day is the kids day, not anyone elses... they all worked hard to get on the podium, and some bureaucrat teacher should not interfere with what they want... the police state is getting worse, as they have been targeting kids here as of late... I agree, become a valedictorian and then express your view of the day and the event the way that your heart touches you to,,, those things shouldnt be censored, beyond ensuring that there are no ATTACKS against others,,, |
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I just don't see what's so brave about praying. for me, its brave to take a risk for no personal gain in a country , culture, that is more and more villifying religion, trying to subliminally ban it on any public level,,,,its risky to go against the pc grain and stand up to the potential public scrutiny over ones choices (sound familiar?) Religion and praying are definitely personal, though. And by praying in public in front of large groups of people, you're doing so because you choose to do so. It's all about personal choice. so is sex and romance,, in the opinion of many but that doesnt mean that those feelings or expression should have to be exclusively in private,,,, and a culture that encourages the choice for some, should encourage it for all,,,, yes, every action is about personal choice,,, Difference though is......those things are exclusive to the people expressing those emotions/doing those things, religion and praying are not so much in this setting. it isnt exclusive, two people may engage in an action with each other, but in the public setting I have to have my EYES subject to it, ,unless I leave or cover them similarly, if one person ENGAGES in an action with their mouth, in a public setting, others only have to have their EARS subject to it, unless they leave or cover them there is no difference, participation is voluntary,, however you spin it,,, isn't there enough gay topics around were this one isn't taken over by this crap? its just an analogy, being used for easier understanding by others it could be simply stated as well that it was the valedictorians choice as it should have been permitted to be , whatever he may have said (outside of attacking others),,,,so long as it was relevant to the moment and the event,,,FOR HIM |
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I just don't see what's so brave about praying. for me, its brave to take a risk for no personal gain in a country , culture, that is more and more villifying religion, trying to subliminally ban it on any public level,,,,its risky to go against the pc grain and stand up to the potential public scrutiny over ones choices (sound familiar?) Religion and praying are definitely personal, though. And by praying in public in front of large groups of people, you're doing so because you choose to do so. It's all about personal choice. so is sex and romance,, in the opinion of many but that doesnt mean that those feelings or expression should have to be exclusively in private,,,, and a culture that encourages the choice for some, should encourage it for all,,,, yes, every action is about personal choice,,, Difference though is......those things are exclusive to the people expressing those emotions/doing those things, religion and praying are not so much in this setting. it isnt exclusive, two people may engage in an action with each other, but in the public setting I have to have my EYES subject to it, ,unless I leave or cover them similarly, if one person ENGAGES in an action with their mouth, in a public setting, others only have to have their EARS subject to it, unless they leave or cover them there is no difference, participation is voluntary,, however you spin it,,, isn't there enough gay topics around were this one isn't taken over by this crap? its just an analogy, being used for easier understanding by others it could be simply stated as well that it was the valedictorians choice as it should have been permitted to be , whatever he may have said (outside of attacking others),,,,so long as it was relevant to the moment and the event,,,FOR HIM it's their day, they should be allowed to come into adulthood without being told what to say... |
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I just don't see what's so brave about praying. for me, its brave to take a risk for no personal gain in a country , culture, that is more and more villifying religion, trying to subliminally ban it on any public level,,,,its risky to go against the pc grain and stand up to the potential public scrutiny over ones choices (sound familiar?) Religion and praying are definitely personal, though. And by praying in public in front of large groups of people, you're doing so because you choose to do so. It's all about personal choice. so is sex and romance,, in the opinion of many but that doesnt mean that those feelings or expression should have to be exclusively in private,,,, and a culture that encourages the choice for some, should encourage it for all,,,, yes, every action is about personal choice,,, Difference though is......those things are exclusive to the people expressing those emotions/doing those things, religion and praying are not so much in this setting. it isnt exclusive, two people may engage in an action with each other, but in the public setting I have to have my EYES subject to it, ,unless I leave or cover them similarly, if one person ENGAGES in an action with their mouth, in a public setting, others only have to have their EARS subject to it, unless they leave or cover them there is no difference, participation is voluntary,, however you spin it,,, isn't there enough gay topics around were this one isn't taken over by this crap? its just an analogy, being used for easier understanding by others it could be simply stated as well that it was the valedictorians choice as it should have been permitted to be , whatever he may have said (outside of attacking others),,,,so long as it was relevant to the moment and the event,,,FOR HIM it's their day, they should be allowed to come into adulthood without being told what to say... I agree, totally |
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