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Jesus wasn't all that Heavenly when it came to women rights  Just where does the Bible say that God gives any particular right to anyone?to many to list...but two of the best examples are wives ahould submit and obey their husbands as to the Lord ... Women are to remain silent in churches and can not teach or preach religion to Men ... I asked you to name Bible verses that reveal rights granted by God. You did not do that. |
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Edited by
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Wed 12/05/12 02:23 PM
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How so? What are you talking about? Who think's of Marry's vagina? And how would that make her "divine". did Jesus pop out of her eye or her vagina? Yes but no one mentioned or referred to her vagina specifically until you did, eventually someone has to teach you about the birds and the bees no one was talking about it until you did. And this is the last post from me on her physical organs. then perhaps you should hang out at the kiddie's table, you asked a question and I answered it sorry but Mary was a woman and in case you didn't know it women have vaginas my point was that vaginas have power over Men and the framers of the bible couldn't afford to give any more power to it by making it Divine ...this is why they would not allow Jesus to call Mary Mother or it would be The Father The Son and The Holy Mother |
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Mary only carried Jesus for nine months and gave birth to him and never ever get called "Mother" by him... The New Testament does not say that Jesus never called Mary "Mother".
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Jesus wasn't all that Heavenly when it came to women rights Just where does the Bible say that God gives any particular right to anyone?to many to list...but two of the best examples are wives ahould submit and obey their husbands as to the Lord ... Women are to remain silent in churches and can not teach or preach religion to Men ... I asked you to name Bible verses that reveal rights granted by God. You did not do that. it should be obvious that obey and submit clearly gives the rights to Men |
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Mary only carried Jesus for nine months and gave birth to him and never ever get called "Mother" by him... The New Testament does not say that Jesus never called Mary "Mother". of course it does not say it...due to the fact that he never called her "Mother" or you are welcome to present a passage from the bible in which he does call her "Mother" |
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Mary only carried Jesus for nine months and gave birth to him and never ever get called "Mother" by him... The New Testament does not say that Jesus never called Mary "Mother". of course it does not say it...due to the fact that he never called her "Mother" or you are welcome to present a passage from the bible in which he does call her "Mother" Oh no. I'm not playing that game. You make the claim that Jesus never called Mary "Mother". It is up to you to prove the claim to be true. |
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Mary only carried Jesus for nine months and gave birth to him and never ever get called "Mother" by him... The New Testament does not say that Jesus never called Mary "Mother". of course it does not say it...due to the fact that he never called her "Mother" or you are welcome to present a passage from the bible in which he does call her "Mother" Oh no. I'm not playing that game. You make the claim that Jesus never called Mary "Mother". It is up to you to prove the claim to be true. I made a claim that Jesus never called Mary "Mother" and never called her "Frankenberry" if you wish to claim otherwise ....then present a passage in which he does call her Mother or Frankenberry but if you can't...that would be an indication that he never called Mary Mother nor Frankenberry |
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Jesus wasn't all that Heavenly when it came to women rights Just where does the Bible say that God gives any particular right to anyone?to many to list...but two of the best examples are wives ahould submit and obey their husbands as to the Lord ... Women are to remain silent in churches and can not teach or preach religion to Men ... I asked you to name Bible verses that reveal rights granted by God. You did not do that. it should be obvious that obey and submit clearly gives the rights to Men I think it gives power to Christ Ephesians 5:21 “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.” |
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I made a claim that Jesus never called Mary "Mother" and never called her "Frankenberry" if you wish to claim otherwise ....then present a passage in which he does call her Mother or Frankenberry but if you can't...that would be an indication that he never called Mary Mother nor Frankenberry Nowhere does the New Testament mention Jesus urinating. Are we to believe that he never urinated? |
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Jesus wasn't all that Heavenly when it came to women rights Just where does the Bible say that God gives any particular right to anyone?to many to list...but two of the best examples are wives ahould submit and obey their husbands as to the Lord ... Women are to remain silent in churches and can not teach or preach religion to Men ... I asked you to name Bible verses that reveal rights granted by God. You did not do that. it should be obvious that obey and submit clearly gives the rights to Men I think it gives power to Christ Ephesians 5:21 “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.” MsHarmony...the passage you presented refer to submitting to the "marriage" as in the reverence for Christ....because the passages after the one you presented gives all the power to the Husbands Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. |
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Edited by
Muaness
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Wed 12/05/12 04:06 PM
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I made a claim that Jesus never called Mary "Mother" and never called her "Frankenberry" if you wish to claim otherwise ....then present a passage in which he does call her Mother or Frankenberry but if you can't...that would be an indication that he never called Mary Mother nor Frankenberry Nowhere does the New Testament mention Jesus urinating. Are we to believe that he never urinated? The bible did not talk of it because it's an irrelevant issue and has no reason Tony be in the bible. |
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I made a claim that Jesus never called Mary "Mother" and never called her "Frankenberry" if you wish to claim otherwise ....then present a passage in which he does call her Mother or Frankenberry but if you can't...that would be an indication that he never called Mary Mother nor Frankenberry Nowhere does the New Testament mention Jesus urinating. Are we to believe that he never urinated? the thing about religion is that people are so willing to believe anything....if he can walk on water...perhaps he urinated water into wine the moral of the story is...if the bible doesn't state that Jesus did it...then one shouldn't claim that he did the bible clearly states that Jesus referred to his Mother as "Woman" but never will you find a passage in which he called her "Mother" |
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Jesus wasn't all that Heavenly when it came to women rights Just where does the Bible say that God gives any particular right to anyone?to many to list...but two of the best examples are wives ahould submit and obey their husbands as to the Lord ... Women are to remain silent in churches and can not teach or preach religion to Men ... I asked you to name Bible verses that reveal rights granted by God. You did not do that. it should be obvious that obey and submit clearly gives the rights to Men I think it gives power to Christ Ephesians 5:21 “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.” MsHarmony...the passage you presented refer to submitting to the "marriage" as in the reverence for Christ....because the passages after the one you presented gives all the power to the Husbands Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. its pretty simple english 'submit to one another' not 'submit to marriage' take from it what you wish,,,,, Christ had GREAT RESPONSIBILITY, as does the husband in a relationship, he did not 'dictate' or 'rule', he only lived for his FATHER which, if a husband does as well, only means that the power is GODS, however you chalk it up a good wife can trust a good husband to be following God, which she should also be doing,, whether in following the example set by the husband or doing so out of her own reverence for God |
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Jesus wasn't all that Heavenly when it came to women rights Just where does the Bible say that God gives any particular right to anyone?to many to list...but two of the best examples are wives ahould submit and obey their husbands as to the Lord ... Women are to remain silent in churches and can not teach or preach religion to Men ... I asked you to name Bible verses that reveal rights granted by God. You did not do that. it should be obvious that obey and submit clearly gives the rights to Men I think it gives power to Christ Ephesians 5:21 “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.” MsHarmony...the passage you presented refer to submitting to the "marriage" as in the reverence for Christ....because the passages after the one you presented gives all the power to the Husbands Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. its pretty simple english 'submit to one another' not 'submit to marriage' take from it what you wish,,,,, Christ had GREAT RESPONSIBILITY, as does the husband in a relationship, he did not 'dictate' or 'rule', he only lived for his FATHER which, if a husband does as well, only means that the power is GODS, however you chalk it up a good wife can trust a good husband to be following God, which she should also be doing,, whether in following the example set by the husband or doing so out of her own reverence for God Man is not made the head of the family to "dictate" anything. God set it up this way for a reason. Goes along with the saying "To many chiefs and not enough indians". Man may lead the family, but he is/should be lead by God. Thus God would in the end be the one leading the family. |
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Edited by
CowboyGH
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I made a claim that Jesus never called Mary "Mother" and never called her "Frankenberry" if you wish to claim otherwise ....then present a passage in which he does call her Mother or Frankenberry but if you can't...that would be an indication that he never called Mary Mother nor Frankenberry Nowhere does the New Testament mention Jesus urinating. Are we to believe that he never urinated? the thing about religion is that people are so willing to believe anything....if he can walk on water...perhaps he urinated water into wine the moral of the story is...if the bible doesn't state that Jesus did it...then one shouldn't claim that he did the bible clearly states that Jesus referred to his Mother as "Woman" but never will you find a passage in which he called her "Mother" Because Marry was only Jesus' mother in concept. Marry did not procreate Jesus. Marry did not have sex to conceive Jesus. God the father formed Jesus inside of Marry's womb. So with that, Marry had no influence on the "creation" of Jesus in the flesh, thus she was not his "mother". |
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Jesus wasn't all that Heavenly when it came to women rights Just where does the Bible say that God gives any particular right to anyone?to many to list...but two of the best examples are wives ahould submit and obey their husbands as to the Lord ... Women are to remain silent in churches and can not teach or preach religion to Men ... I asked you to name Bible verses that reveal rights granted by God. You did not do that. it should be obvious that obey and submit clearly gives the rights to Men I think it gives power to Christ Ephesians 5:21 “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.” MsHarmony...the passage you presented refer to submitting to the "marriage" as in the reverence for Christ....because the passages after the one you presented gives all the power to the Husbands Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. its pretty simple english 'submit to one another' not 'submit to marriage' take from it what you wish,,,,, MsHarmony...perhaps if you bother to read the preceding passages you would have realize they were referring to marriage Christ had GREAT RESPONSIBILITY, as does the husband in a relationship, he did not 'dictate' or 'rule', he only lived for his FATHER MsHarmony...in case no one told you....those that hand out commandments are trying to rule and dictate which, if a husband does as well, only means that the power is GODS, however you chalk it up a good wife can trust a good husband to be following God, which she should also be doing,, whether in following the example set by the husband or doing so out of her own reverence for God The Bible made it clear that the husband is in control of the wife Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. |
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I made a claim that Jesus never called Mary "Mother" and never called her "Frankenberry" if you wish to claim otherwise ....then present a passage in which he does call her Mother or Frankenberry but if you can't...that would be an indication that he never called Mary Mother nor Frankenberry Nowhere does the New Testament mention Jesus urinating. Are we to believe that he never urinated? the thing about religion is that people are so willing to believe anything....if he can walk on water...perhaps he urinated water into wine the moral of the story is...if the bible doesn't state that Jesus did it...then one shouldn't claim that he did the bible clearly states that Jesus referred to his Mother as "Woman" but never will you find a passage in which he called her "Mother" Because Marry was only Jesus' mother in concept. Marry did not procreate Jesus. Marry did not have sex to conceive Jesus. God the father formed Jesus inside of Marry's womb. So with that, Marry had no influence on the "creation" of Jesus in the flesh, thus she was not his "mother". so "immaculate conception" to you means Mary didn't actaully have a baby Jesus but found a "concept" baby Jesus in a cabbage patch? Cowboy...I see that you still haven't received your birds and the bees talk yet ..especially since the bible makes it clear that Mary will "conceive" in the womb BEES AND THE BIRDS LESSON 101 when a female egg gets fertilzed...it's called sex and falls into the realm of procreation and results in having little children of the corn ...or of the clone |
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I made a claim that Jesus never called Mary "Mother" and never called her "Frankenberry" if you wish to claim otherwise ....then present a passage in which he does call her Mother or Frankenberry but if you can't...that would be an indication that he never called Mary Mother nor Frankenberry Nowhere does the New Testament mention Jesus urinating. Are we to believe that he never urinated? the thing about religion is that people are so willing to believe anything....if he can walk on water...perhaps he urinated water into wine the moral of the story is...if the bible doesn't state that Jesus did it...then one shouldn't claim that he did the bible clearly states that Jesus referred to his Mother as "Woman" but never will you find a passage in which he called her "Mother" Because Marry was only Jesus' mother in concept. Marry did not procreate Jesus. Marry did not have sex to conceive Jesus. God the father formed Jesus inside of Marry's womb. So with that, Marry had no influence on the "creation" of Jesus in the flesh, thus she was not his "mother". so "immaculate conception" to you means Mary didn't actaully have a baby Jesus but found a "concept" baby Jesus in a cabbage patch? Cowboy...I see that you still haven't received your birds and the bees talk yet ..especially since the bible makes it clear that Mary will "conceive" in the womb BEES AND THE BIRDS LESSON 101 when a female egg gets fertilzed...it's called sex and falls into the realm of procreation and results in having little children of the corn ...or of the clone Funches, please listen for once. I never said Marry didn't conceive Jesus. Not even mentioned at all. Marry did not have to have "sex" to conceive Jesus. God placed Jesus inside he womb without any "sex" taking place. |
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Can any human save another to heaven1 11 ? ? Only christ is the savior ! !Amen It is so!
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Funches, please listen for once. I never said Marry didn't conceive Jesus. Not even mentioned at all. Marry did not have to have "sex" to conceive Jesus. God placed Jesus inside he womb without any "sex" taking place. Cowboy....God didn't place Jesus into Mary...it was The Holy Spirit that enter into mary so that she could conceive...the bible clearly states that Mary "conceive"... and that takes an egg being fertilized...and sex once the Holy Spirit enter Mary and impregnanted her...that was sex perhaps it wasn't memorable to Mary or perhaps the Holy Spirit is a two minute man and it happen to quick for her to enjoy...but neverless... it was sex |
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