Topic: Is it a sin?
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Wed 10/10/12 09:46 AM
Edited by wux on Wed 10/10/12 09:47 AM


Does the bible speak against wet dreams? And is it a sin? Again what cause it?


No, the Bible is silent on the subject. No, even the most conservative Christian would not consider it a sin any more than urinating would be a sin. My guess is that's it's caused by hormones. But, I'm not sure on that. You could check WebMD.


Right!! It's just about time that urinating be declared a sin.

From now on people can only urinate on Tuesdays and on Easter Fridays, or else.

Nocturnal, involuntary urination will not be considered a sin.

And it will greatly help the dry-cleaning industry.

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"Blessed are the cheeze-makers."

"Oh, how nice, did you hear that, deary? Blessed are the cheese-makers."

"This is only to be taken as a moral guidance... in fact it refers to all manufacturers of dairy products."

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"give us this day our daily bread" was a much-needed and hailed moral boost to and by the baking industry.

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It's about time some deity gave a helpful nudge to boost the shiit-eating industry. First during Lent, then expand the business parameters.

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Wed 10/10/12 09:53 AM

The naughty day dreams have nothing to do with nocturnal orgasms. Google why people have them and you will see that it's a hormonal thing. The body is producing more testosterone and this is what causes them. The sexy dreams are the body's way of creating the scenario necessary to have an orgasm without touching yourself.


So dreaming is housecleaning of the previous days events, and wet dreams are housecleanings of the excess orgasms.

Do people moan and gnash their teeth during nocturnal ejaculation? (Wet dreams)?

If he does it, it's his moans, if she does it, it's hermoans. Or hormones, if she's a prostitute.

I just hope my baby (eight ounces) won't be thrown out with the bathwater.

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Wed 10/10/12 12:35 PM


The "lord" is not omnipresent. What are you talking about? "God" is, but not the "lord". When Jesus is in the flesh eg., lord Jesus he is not omnipresent.


Cowboy..your attempt at deflection instead of answering questions displays a lack of faith

since Cain was "abel"(no pun intended)to leave out of the presence of your God, lord or whatever when he entered into the land of Nod.. therefore that is an indication that all of your Gods lack omnipresence and are fake

to be a God you have to be Omnipresent...union rules


Again, when he is "Lord" he is not omnipresent. When he is in the flesh, he is just that, in the flesh.

Give a verse that says the "lord" is omnipresent, if no verse is supplied, I rest my case.

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Wed 10/10/12 05:04 PM
Edited by funches on Wed 10/10/12 05:04 PM

Again, when he is "Lord" he is not omnipresent. When he is in the flesh, he is just that, in the flesh.

Give a verse that says the "lord" is omnipresent, if no verse is supplied, I rest my case.


Cowboy...thanks for providing proof that Jesus wasn't God or a God in Genesis

can't be a God without that "Omnipresent Certificate"


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Wed 10/10/12 07:56 PM


Again, when he is "Lord" he is not omnipresent. When he is in the flesh, he is just that, in the flesh.

Give a verse that says the "lord" is omnipresent, if no verse is supplied, I rest my case.


Cowboy...thanks for providing proof that Jesus wasn't God or a God in Genesis

can't be a God without that "Omnipresent Certificate"




"Jesus" was not in Genesis. "Jesus" was not born till


Luke 2
7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

You're comparing apples and oranges again, and of course taking things completely out of context. When the scriptures state "God" by itself, not capitalize, not any other titles around it, it is referring to Jesus' father. I know not if God's name is in the original scriptures or if that we are just not worthy to say the name. I know not why the translations only say "God".

"Jesus" is the LORD God in the flesh. "Jesus" in the flesh was born and had not always been around. But "Jesus" the LORD God has always been around and is who created Earth, Heaven, and everything else.


Genesis 2:4
King James Version (KJV)
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

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Thu 10/11/12 06:27 AM

But "Jesus" the LORD God has always been around and is who created Earth, Heaven, and everything else.


but "Lord God" is not mention in Genesis 4:16 ..

only "Lord" is mention in Genesis 4:16 ...

you clearly stated that "Jesus in the flesh" was "Lord"

you clearly stated that the "Jesus not in the flesh" was called "Lord God" in Genesis

if Jesus is not the "Lord" mention in Genesis 4:16 then who is the "Lord" mention

1)..you can't claim that the "Lord" mention is The Father because then that would mean the Father is not omnipresent and therefore not a God,

2)..you can't claim that the "Lord" mention is the holy Spirit because Christians believe that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent

3)so all that is left is the "Jesus not in the flesh" as being the "Lord" mention in Genesis 4:16 and according to you "The Lord" is not omnipresent and therefore can't be a God

that one passage "Genesis 4:16" proves that what you have been preaching in this forum for years has been nothing but lies

Cowboy you finally busted yourself in those silly Name Games you insist on playing

THE QUESTION:
if I'm wrong....then who is the "Lord" mention in Genesis 4:16


these Perry Mason moments makes it all worthwhile





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Thu 10/11/12 06:39 AM


But "Jesus" the LORD God has always been around and is who created Earth, Heaven, and everything else.


but "Lord God" is not mention in Genesis 4:16 ..

only "Lord" is mention in Genesis 4:16 ...

you clearly stated that "Jesus in the flesh" was "Lord"

you clearly stated that the "Jesus not in the flesh" was called "Lord God" in Genesis

if Jesus is not the "Lord" mention in Genesis 4:16 then who is the "Lord" mention

1)..you can't claim that the "Lord" mention is The Father because then that would mean the Father is not omnipresent and therefore not a God,

2)..you can't claim that the "Lord" mention is the holy Spirit because Christians believe that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent

3)so all that is left is the "Jesus not in the flesh" as being the "Lord" mention in Genesis 4:16 and according to you "The Lord" is not omnipresent and therefore can't be a God

that one passage "Genesis 4:16" proves that what you have been preaching in this forum for years has been nothing but lies

Cowboy you finally busted yourself in those silly Name Games you insist on playing

THE QUESTION:
if I'm wrong....then who is the "Lord" mention in Genesis 4:16


these Perry Mason moments makes it all worthwhile








lol Funches, Funches, Funches.

"Lord" mentioned in Genesis 4:16 is Jesus Christ. That is why in the following verse they were told to call him Jesus before he was born.

Matthew 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

"Jesus" wasn't just some name Marry came up with lol.

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Thu 10/11/12 07:32 AM
Sorry funches but I think your on the losing end of this debate.

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Thu 10/11/12 08:13 AM

Sorry funches but I think your on the losing end of this debate.


sorry pal...as long as I stick with what is written in the bible....I'm omnipresent

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Thu 10/11/12 08:28 AM

lol Funches, Funches, Funches.

"Lord" mentioned in Genesis 4:16 is Jesus Christ. That is why in the following verse they were told to call him Jesus before he was born.

Matthew 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

"Jesus" wasn't just some name Marry came up with lol.


ok, so you claim that Jesus is the "lord" in Genesis 4:16 that you also claim lack omnipresence

then who is the "God" or "Lord God" mention or referred to in Genesis 1:1 that created the Heavens and the Earth and is omnipresent

Jesus can't be "Lord God" that is omnipresent and "Lord" and lack omnipresence at the same time both in Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 4:16

THE QUESTION:
who is the omnipresent "God" mention in Genesis 1:1 that created the Heavens and the Earth


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Thu 10/11/12 08:33 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Thu 10/11/12 08:36 AM


lol Funches, Funches, Funches.

"Lord" mentioned in Genesis 4:16 is Jesus Christ. That is why in the following verse they were told to call him Jesus before he was born.

Matthew 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

"Jesus" wasn't just some name Marry came up with lol.


ok, so you claim that Jesus is the "lord" in Genesis 4:16 that you also claim lack omnipresence

then who is the "God" or "Lord God" mention or referred to in Genesis 1:1 that created the Heavens and the Earth and is omnipresent

Jesus can't be "Lord God" that is omnipresent and "Lord" and lack omnipresence at the same time both in Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 4:16

THE QUESTION:
who is the omnipresent "God" mention in Genesis 1:1 that created the Heavens and the Earth




Context again Funches, context.

Jesus is LORD God, but he was not referred to as "Jesus" until this

Philippians 2:7
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men

He left his glory behind and took on the form of a servant, he came in the flesh. While he was in the flesh eg., Jesus, he was not omnipresent. He restricted himself to the restrictions of the flesh.

2:8
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

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Thu 10/11/12 08:34 AM


Sorry funches but I think your on the losing end of this debate.


sorry pal...as long as I stick with what is written in the bible....I'm omnipresent


How can you ben omnipresent? Now you're lying?

Omnipresent - present in all places at all times

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Thu 10/11/12 08:43 AM

Context again Funches, context.

Jesus is LORD God, but he was not referred to as "Jesus" until this


if Jesus is Lord God and omnipresent then how did Cain leave out of his presence....

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Thu 10/11/12 08:48 AM

Omnipresent - present in all places at all times


Cowboy.....so if God is omnipresent wouldn't that mean that he is always present in the wet dreams of believers...

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Thu 10/11/12 08:52 AM
woke up from wet dream smiley >smokin

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Thu 10/11/12 08:52 AM


Context again Funches, context.

Jesus is LORD God, but he was not referred to as "Jesus" until this


if Jesus is Lord God and omnipresent then how did Cain leave out of his presence....


Because obviously LORD God was in some form of a "physical" form, or else Cain wouldn't have been able to be in the presence of the LORD or leave the presence of the LORD. Again, context.

You can't be referring to something said about the spiritual essence of a being and compare it to the physical essence of a being.

Cain is a physical being, so therefore with it saying Cain left the presence of the LORD it would be referring to the LORD in a physical state.

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Thu 10/11/12 08:54 AM


Omnipresent - present in all places at all times


Cowboy.....so if God is omnipresent wouldn't that mean that he is always present in the wet dreams of believers...


No Funches lol. Dreams are made inside your mind, they are not a place. And just because God is omnipresent does not mean he IS every specific place. Just that he has the ability to be anywhere and everywhere at the same time.

That's why people can feel God stronger in different places then the other.

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Thu 10/11/12 08:54 AM



Omnipresent - present in all places at all times


Cowboy.....so if God is omnipresent wouldn't that mean that he is always present in the wet dreams of believers...


No Funches lol. Dreams are made inside your mind, they are not a place. And just because God is omnipresent does not mean he IS every specific place. Just that he has the ability to be anywhere and everywhere at the same time.

That's why people can feel God stronger in different places then the other.


God does not go and is not present where he is not wanted.

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Thu 10/11/12 08:59 AM

Because obviously LORD God was in some form of a "physical" form, or else Cain wouldn't have been able to be in the presence of the LORD or leave the presence of the LORD. Again, context.


nope..remember you said that Jesus wasn't in the flesh in Genesis ...which means he wasn't in any physical form and it's something you made up

so again how did Cain leave out of his presence if Lord God is omnipresent

now do you see the trap that you place yourself in


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Thu 10/11/12 09:00 AM



Omnipresent - present in all places at all times


Cowboy.....so if God is omnipresent wouldn't that mean that he is always present in the wet dreams of believers...


No Funches lol. Dreams are made inside your mind, they are not a place. And just because God is omnipresent does not mean he IS every specific place. Just that he has the ability to be anywhere and everywhere at the same time.

That's why people can feel God stronger in different places then the other.


you just stated that omnipresent means present in all places at all times....is that a lie?