Topic: 9/11 truth documentary among 'most watched' on PBS
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Tue 09/11/12 07:38 PM
Yep! That's me. A stupid troll.

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Tue 09/11/12 08:01 PM
Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more then a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker in hopes of discouraging others to be critical and isolate them as anti American. Be quiet and do not question our authority. As for all the hired experts and their supporters, I dont believe you, you are way to adament in discouraging others who dont believe the hype as you do. If someone tells you your house is on fire, id check before saying no "it cant possibly " be on fire. Americans are suckers, who cant think.

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Tue 09/11/12 08:18 PM

Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more then a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker in hopes of discouraging others to be critical and isolate them as anti American. Be quiet and do not question our authority. As for all the hired experts and their supporters, I dont believe you, you are way to adament in discouraging others who dont believe the hype as you do. If someone tells you your house is on fire, id check before saying no "it cant possibly " be on fire. Americans are suckers, who cant think.


A conspiracy theory explains an event as being the result of an alleged plot by a covert group or organization or, more broadly, the idea that important political, social or economic events are the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general public.

The term "conspiracy theory" is used to indicate a narrative genre that includes a broad selection of (not necessarily related) arguments for the existence of grand conspiracies.[1] The term is frequently used by scholars and in popular culture to identify secret military, banking, or political actions aimed at "stealing" power, money, or freedom, from "the people".[citation needed] Conspiracy theories are based on the notion that complex plots are put into motion by powerful hidden forces.[2] Less illustrious uses refer to folklore and urban legend and a variety of explanatory narratives which are constructed with methodological flaws or biases.[3] Originally a neutral term, since the mid-1960s it has acquired a somewhat derogatory meaning, implying a paranoid tendency to see the influence of some malign covert agency in events.[4] The term is sometimes used to automatically dismiss claims that are deemed ridiculous, misconceived, paranoid, unfounded, outlandish or irrational.[5] A proven conspiracy theory, such as the notion that Nixon and his aides were behind the Watergate break-in and cover-up, is usually referred to as something else, such as investigative journalism or historical analysis.[6][7]

The political scientist Michael Barkun discussing the usage of this term in contemporary American culture holds that a conspiracy theory is a belief which explains an event as the result of a secret plot by exceptionally powerful and cunning conspirators to achieve a malevolent end.[8][9] According to Barkun, the appeal of conspiracism is threefold: First, conspiracy theories claim to explain what institutional analysis cannot. They appear to make sense out of a world that is otherwise confusing. Second, they do so in an appealingly simple way, by dividing the world sharply between the forces of light and the forces of darkness. They trace all evil back to a single source, the conspirators and their agents. Third, conspiracy theories are often presented as special, secret knowledge unknown or unappreciated by others. For conspiracy theorists, the masses are a brainwashed herd, while the conspiracy theorists in the know can congratulate themselves on penetrating the plotters' deceptions.[9]

Some scholars argue that conspiracy theories once limited to fringe audiences have become commonplace in mass media, contributing to conspiracism emerging as a cultural phenomenon in the United States of the late 20th and early 21st centuries, and the possible replacement of democracy by conspiracy as the dominant paradigm of political action in the public mind.[8][10][11][12] According to anthropologists Todd Sanders and Harry G. West, evidence suggests that a broad cross section of Americans today gives credence to at least some conspiracy theories.[13] Belief in conspiracy theories has therefore become a topic of interest for sociologists, psychologists and experts in folklore.

In an essay on conspiracy theories originating in the Middle East, Daniel Pipes notes that "[f]ive assumptions distinguish the conspiracy theorist from more conventional patterns of thought: appearances deceive; conspiracies drive history; nothing is haphazard; the enemy always gains; power, fame, money, and sex account for all."[2] According to West and Sanders, when talking about conspiracies in the Vietnam era, Pipes includes within the fringe element anyone who entertains the thought that conspiracies played a role in the major political scandals and assassinations that rocked American politics in the Vietnam era. "He sees the paranoid style in almost any critical historical or social-scientific analysis of oppression."[14]

Noam Chomsky, linguist and scholar, contrasts conspiracy theory as more or less the opposite of institutional analysis, which focuses mostly on the public, long-term behaviour of publicly known institutions, as recorded in, for example, scholarly documents or mainstream media reports, rather than secretive coalitions of individuals.[15]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories

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Tue 09/11/12 08:24 PM




Actually there is no need to make fun of anybody.


This is where I disagree. Loud and stupid people deserve open ridicule.laugh


Ridicule is used when you have no valid argument or are too lazy to get one.


For you perhaps, I do it to get a laugh. You could have it round the wrong way. One may laugh at those without a valid argument, or those too lazy to get one.laugh


To get a laugh? From who?

Don't quit your day job to become a stand up comedian then. You are not funny.




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Tue 09/11/12 08:25 PM



Actually there is no need to make fun of anybody.


This is where I disagree. Loud and stupid people deserve open ridicule.laugh


Yep. I have to agree with this one. I have posted the science and math, explained it detail, and got nothing back from some but buffoonery. The posts still exist if anyone cared to research them but after multiple explanations of why explosives could not have been used, it still comes back from the CTs as the "obvious choice" for how the buildings went down. Some people are just stupid and should be treated as such if they combine obnoxiousness with it. Some people are just trolls looking for attention because it is impossible to be that stupid.


I can't believe you are still spewing that malarky.

laugh laugh

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Tue 09/11/12 08:31 PM






Actually there is no need to make fun of anybody.


This is where I disagree. Loud and stupid people deserve open ridicule.laugh


Ridicule is used when you have no valid argument or are too lazy to get one.


For you perhaps, I do it to get a laugh. You could have it round the wrong way. One may laugh at those without a valid argument, or those too lazy to get one.laugh
Why do you bother hot rod even the 911 commission denies its own report. This has been proven over and over, wake up.



he 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.

Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities' School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.

Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No. Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes.

Farmer states...“at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.”

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september112009/911_truth_9-11-09.php


Who cares if there were a couple of typos or the jets didn't
scramble fast enough or the fbi screwed up and didn't talk to
the cia or the whitehouse or some other such problem?

NO CREDIBLE PERSON QUESTIONS THAT IT WAS AN AL-QAEDA TERRORIST ATTACK - SUPPORTED BY ALL AVAILABLE VOLUMINOUS EVIDENCE

laugh

The rest of it concerns how we might have prevented it or
responded more effectively to such threats.

laugh





NO CREDIBLE PERSON QUESTIONS THAT IT WAS AN AL-QAEDA TERRORIST ATTACK - SUPPORTED BY ALL AVAILABLE VOLUMINOUS EVIDENCE



That is the most perfect example of total and utter denial.

And a completely ridiculous and impossible statement since probably more than 70 percent or more of all people in the entire world don't believe the official 9-11 lie.

I can see you are desperately clinging to your false perception of reality, so your sanity must depend upon it. So go ahead and believe that if you must.




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Tue 09/11/12 08:32 PM




Actually there is no need to make fun of anybody.


This is where I disagree. Loud and stupid people deserve open ridicule.laugh


Yep. I have to agree with this one. I have posted the science and math, explained it detail, and got nothing back from some but buffoonery. The posts still exist if anyone cared to research them but after multiple explanations of why explosives could not have been used, it still comes back from the CTs as the "obvious choice" for how the buildings went down. Some people are just stupid and should be treated as such if they combine obnoxiousness with it. Some people are just trolls looking for attention because it is impossible to be that stupid.


I can't believe you are still spewing that malarky.

laugh laugh

malarky or Mularky. So you would rather see children dead in the street?

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Tue 09/11/12 08:38 PM
I don't know what your reference to seeing children dead in the street means. Sorry.

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Tue 09/11/12 08:45 PM




Actually there is no need to make fun of anybody.


This is where I disagree. Loud and stupid people deserve open ridicule.laugh


Yep. I have to agree with this one. I have posted the science and math, explained it detail, and got nothing back from some but buffoonery. The posts still exist if anyone cared to research them but after multiple explanations of why explosives could not have been used, it still comes back from the CTs as the "obvious choice" for how the buildings went down. Some people are just stupid and should be treated as such if they combine obnoxiousness with it. Some people are just trolls looking for attention because it is impossible to be that stupid.


I can't believe you are still spewing that malarky.

laugh laugh


Excuse me for not keeping up. Is your latest theory

Jews,
Aliens,
Bush,
Cabals,
Secret weapons,
Alien secret weapons,
or what for bringing down the towers?

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Tue 09/11/12 09:39 PM

I don't know what your reference to seeing children dead in the street means. Sorry.

See, I knew that you would deny it.

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Tue 09/11/12 10:14 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 09/11/12 10:15 PM





Actually there is no need to make fun of anybody.


This is where I disagree. Loud and stupid people deserve open ridicule.laugh


Yep. I have to agree with this one. I have posted the science and math, explained it detail, and got nothing back from some but buffoonery. The posts still exist if anyone cared to research them but after multiple explanations of why explosives could not have been used, it still comes back from the CTs as the "obvious choice" for how the buildings went down. Some people are just stupid and should be treated as such if they combine obnoxiousness with it. Some people are just trolls looking for attention because it is impossible to be that stupid.


I can't believe you are still spewing that malarky.

laugh laugh


Excuse me for not keeping up. Is your latest theory

Jews,
Aliens,
Bush,
Cabals,
Secret weapons,
Alien secret weapons,
or what for bringing down the towers?


The thing I know for sure is this...

I smell something rotten......

laugh laugh

I don't have "theories" I have ideas.

I have an idea that the official story is a bald faced lie and a massive (and very poorly done) cover-up.





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Tue 09/11/12 10:47 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Tue 09/11/12 11:21 PM





Actually there is no need to make fun of anybody.


This is where I disagree. Loud and stupid people deserve open ridicule.laugh


Ridicule is used when you have no valid argument or are too lazy to get one.


For you perhaps, I do it to get a laugh. You could have it round the wrong way. One may laugh at those without a valid argument, or those too lazy to get one.laugh


To get a laugh? From who?

Don't quit your day job to become a stand up comedian then. You are not funny.







I never intended to be, and again, you fail to understand, but I'm used to that. Is English your first language?

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Tue 09/11/12 10:48 PM







Actually there is no need to make fun of anybody.


This is where I disagree. Loud and stupid people deserve open ridicule.laugh


Ridicule is used when you have no valid argument or are too lazy to get one.


For you perhaps, I do it to get a laugh. You could have it round the wrong way. One may laugh at those without a valid argument, or those too lazy to get one.laugh
Why do you bother hot rod even the 911 commission denies its own report. This has been proven over and over, wake up.



he 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.

Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities' School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.

Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No. Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes.

Farmer states...“at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.”

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september112009/911_truth_9-11-09.php


Who cares if there were a couple of typos or the jets didn't
scramble fast enough or the fbi screwed up and didn't talk to
the cia or the whitehouse or some other such problem?

NO CREDIBLE PERSON QUESTIONS THAT IT WAS AN AL-QAEDA TERRORIST ATTACK - SUPPORTED BY ALL AVAILABLE VOLUMINOUS EVIDENCE

laugh

The rest of it concerns how we might have prevented it or
responded more effectively to such threats.

laugh


Really? I find few people in the "real world" who buy all that.laugh


Try leaving your house.

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Tue 09/11/12 11:00 PM



Actually there is no need to make fun of anybody.


This is where I disagree. Loud and stupid people deserve open ridicule.laugh


Yep. I have to agree with this one. I have posted the science and math, explained it detail, and got nothing back from some but buffoonery. The posts still exist if anyone cared to research them but after multiple explanations of why explosives could not have been used, it still comes back from the CTs as the "obvious choice" for how the buildings went down. Some people are just stupid and should be treated as such if they combine obnoxiousness with it. Some people are just trolls looking for attention because it is impossible to be that stupid.


No matter what you prove, or what incontraverible evidence you post, it doesn't matter to these people.

They have come to a conclusion and work backwards from the conclusion. They desperately try to make evidence and anomalies fit into the conclusion and they convince themselves they are right. The logical flaw in this process is irrelevant, for they don't have an astute grasp of logic. We see it here constantly.

I'm on another site where scientists disprove 9/11 theories all the time, but the CTers (who are at best, amateurs) refuse to listen, and despite a hypothesis being disptroved, it surfaces again in a new thread a week later (sound familiar?). They just employ the diversionary tactics we are so familiar with on Mingle.

Thankfully, the twoofer movement is losing numbers. Richard Gage can't even get 1,500 signatures on his latest poll. Only the diehard cranks still disseminate this trash.

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Tue 09/11/12 11:03 PM

I don't have "theories" I have ideas.


When that happens, does it hurt? :smile:

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Wed 09/12/12 05:53 AM






Actually there is no need to make fun of anybody.


This is where I disagree. Loud and stupid people deserve open ridicule.laugh


Yep. I have to agree with this one. I have posted the science and math, explained it detail, and got nothing back from some but buffoonery. The posts still exist if anyone cared to research them but after multiple explanations of why explosives could not have been used, it still comes back from the CTs as the "obvious choice" for how the buildings went down. Some people are just stupid and should be treated as such if they combine obnoxiousness with it. Some people are just trolls looking for attention because it is impossible to be that stupid.


I can't believe you are still spewing that malarky.

laugh laugh


Excuse me for not keeping up. Is your latest theory

Jews,
Aliens,
Bush,
Cabals,
Secret weapons,
Alien secret weapons,
or what for bringing down the towers?


The thing I know for sure is this...

I smell something rotten......

laugh laugh

I don't have "theories" I have ideas.

I have an idea that the official story is a bald faced lie and a massive (and very poorly done) cover-up.







The funny thing is she won't believe what science can prove but she will believe in alien secret weapons. If she were born several decades earlier she may have wanted to burn B. Franklin and Tesla for witchcraft.

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Wed 09/12/12 06:13 AM







Actually there is no need to make fun of anybody.


This is where I disagree. Loud and stupid people deserve open ridicule.laugh


Yep. I have to agree with this one. I have posted the science and math, explained it detail, and got nothing back from some but buffoonery. The posts still exist if anyone cared to research them but after multiple explanations of why explosives could not have been used, it still comes back from the CTs as the "obvious choice" for how the buildings went down. Some people are just stupid and should be treated as such if they combine obnoxiousness with it. Some people are just trolls looking for attention because it is impossible to be that stupid.


I can't believe you are still spewing that malarky.

laugh laugh


Excuse me for not keeping up. Is your latest theory

Jews,
Aliens,
Bush,
Cabals,
Secret weapons,
Alien secret weapons,
or what for bringing down the towers?


The thing I know for sure is this...

I smell something rotten......

laugh laugh

I don't have "theories" I have ideas.

I have an idea that the official story is a bald faced lie and a massive (and very poorly done) cover-up.







The funny thing is she won't believe what science can prove but she will believe in alien secret weapons. If she were born several decades earlier she may have wanted to burn B. Franklin and Tesla for witchcraft.
DoD had a few small Asteroids in a Near Earth Orbit,and they made good use of some on 9/11!

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Wed 09/12/12 08:53 AM







Actually there is no need to make fun of anybody.


This is where I disagree. Loud and stupid people deserve open ridicule.laugh


Yep. I have to agree with this one. I have posted the science and math, explained it detail, and got nothing back from some but buffoonery. The posts still exist if anyone cared to research them but after multiple explanations of why explosives could not have been used, it still comes back from the CTs as the "obvious choice" for how the buildings went down. Some people are just stupid and should be treated as such if they combine obnoxiousness with it. Some people are just trolls looking for attention because it is impossible to be that stupid.


I can't believe you are still spewing that malarky.

laugh laugh


Excuse me for not keeping up. Is your latest theory

Jews,
Aliens,
Bush,
Cabals,
Secret weapons,
Alien secret weapons,
or what for bringing down the towers?


The thing I know for sure is this...

I smell something rotten......

laugh laugh

I don't have "theories" I have ideas.

I have an idea that the official story is a bald faced lie and a massive (and very poorly done) cover-up.







The funny thing is she won't believe what science can prove but she will believe in alien secret weapons. If she were born several decades earlier she may have wanted to burn B. Franklin and Tesla for witchcraft.


I have no problem with science if it is real science. But science has been compromised by government and you science lovers can't believe that is possible.

Scientists are just as hard headed and brainwashed and bribed as anyone else. They are human. I don't trust the status quo. If they can assassinate people and brag about it, there is no way I am going to trust anything they do or say.

You can if you want.

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Wed 09/12/12 09:00 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 09/12/12 09:02 AM
I have read how they used computers to figure out how the buildings could possibly fall like that, by just being hit by a plane and I don't trust the data they used for the computers.

They have no idea from real evidence how those towers could have fallen because there was nothing much left but dust. And those "scientists" were pressured to come up with answers to support the official lie in my opinion and there are other real scientists who disagree with them.

In a normal pancake collapse there would have been tons and tons of left over material that would be piled stories high. For the twin towers, there was nothing much left at all. Nothing but dust.

That is not normal people.

They and you are trying to convince everyone that everything in those buildings, including steal, turned into dust because it fell from such a long distance. They must really think people are idiots.

I don't have to be a scientist to tell you that you have been bamboozled if you believe that.

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Wed 09/12/12 09:18 AM








Actually there is no need to make fun of anybody.


This is where I disagree. Loud and stupid people deserve open ridicule.laugh


Yep. I have to agree with this one. I have posted the science and math, explained it detail, and got nothing back from some but buffoonery. The posts still exist if anyone cared to research them but after multiple explanations of why explosives could not have been used, it still comes back from the CTs as the "obvious choice" for how the buildings went down. Some people are just stupid and should be treated as such if they combine obnoxiousness with it. Some people are just trolls looking for attention because it is impossible to be that stupid.


I can't believe you are still spewing that malarky.

laugh laugh


Excuse me for not keeping up. Is your latest theory

Jews,
Aliens,
Bush,
Cabals,
Secret weapons,
Alien secret weapons,
or what for bringing down the towers?


The thing I know for sure is this...

I smell something rotten......

laugh laugh

I don't have "theories" I have ideas.

I have an idea that the official story is a bald faced lie and a massive (and very poorly done) cover-up.







The funny thing is she won't believe what science can prove but she will believe in alien secret weapons. If she were born several decades earlier she may have wanted to burn B. Franklin and Tesla for witchcraft.


I have no problem with science if it is real science. But science has been compromised by government and you science lovers can't believe that is possible.

Scientists are just as hard headed and brainwashed and bribed as anyone else. They are human. I don't trust the status quo. If they can assassinate people and brag about it, there is no way I am going to trust anything they do or say.

You can if you want.
now,define Real Science for us!