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Topic: 9/11 truth documentary among 'most watched' on PBS
Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Fri 09/07/12 06:22 PM
Cute cartoon, although it does little in way of refuting common knowledge that Hollywood does sway opinion, as most people watch more television and cinematic productions then anyone in the world. Perhaps a basic course on subliminal deduction will help you comprehend that you are swayed every time you turn on your television, they are called comercials. Im sure your post was meant to convey an intelligent responce, perhaps you will enlighten me as to what that is.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Fri 09/07/12 06:26 PM
Lying is not very effective in a country like the US with open press and freedom of the press because various news organizations will fact check and criticize propaganda and reveal poor journalism and outright lies. So yeah...in the US it is not such a big problem as it is in other countries where the news organizations are only mouthpieces of the prevailing regime. the big differance is other countries are amatuers in the art of mental swaying of the masses and their perceptions. A new movie on the President of the United States hit theaters just before the republican convention, Hollywood has always played its role at subliminal swaying of public opinon, perception and outlook. Hollywood is media as well, as they have the power of image, and we Americans love Hollywood. Ha Ha H ollywood! Hollywood TOTALLY shapes public opinion. NO ONE CAN RESIST THE FLINTSTONES and 3 STOOGES!!! WE ARE ALL BEING CONTROLLED BY THE CORPORATE MICKEY MOUSE!!! (that's why I wear tinfoil mouse ears!!) hint hint.. [/quot e] very intelligent post.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Fri 09/07/12 06:26 PM
Lying is not very effective in a country like the US with open press and freedom of the press because various news organizations will fact check and criticize propaganda and reveal poor journalism and outright lies. So yeah...in the US it is not such a big problem as it is in other countries where the news organizations are only mouthpieces of the prevailing regime. the big differance is other countries are amatuers in the art of mental swaying of the masses and their perceptions. A new movie on the President of the United States hit theaters just before the republican convention, Hollywood has always played its role at subliminal swaying of public opinon, perception and outlook. Hollywood is media as well, as they have the power of image, and we Americans love Hollywood. Ha Ha H ollywood! Hollywood TOTALLY shapes public opinion. NO ONE CAN RESIST THE FLINTSTONES and 3 STOOGES!!! WE ARE ALL BEING CONTROLLED BY THE CORPORATE MICKEY MOUSE!!! (that's why I wear tinfoil mouse ears!!) hint hint.. [/quot e] very intelligent post.

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Fri 09/07/12 06:57 PM
No way it could have beaten sesame street! no way that it could be more intelligent than sesame st. I'm wiht slowhad on this one

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Fri 09/07/12 07:41 PM
You humans sure are funny at times.

soufiehere Joined Sat 10/24/09 Posts: 45399	Fri 09/07/12 07:53 PM
Edited for vulgarity. soufie Site Moderator

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Fri 09/07/12 08:14 PM
Lying is not very effective in a country like the US with open press and freedom of the press because various news organizations will fact check and criticize propaganda and reveal poor journalism and outright lies. So yeah...in the US it is not such a big problem as it is in other countries where the news organizations are only mouthpieces of the prevailing regime. Its pretty much a joke we have a free press its a career ender to go against the system.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Fri 09/07/12 08:24 PM
The 9/11 Commission head, Thomas Kean, was the Republican governor of New Jersey. He had the following to say... “We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth. . . " When Bush's own handpicked commission failed to go along with the cover up and requested a criminal investigation, why was nothing done? 9/11 Commission member and former US Senator, Bob Kerrey, says, "No one is more qualified to write the definitive book about the tragedy of 9/11 than John Farmer. Fortunately, he has done so. Even more fortunately the language is clear, alive and instructive for anyone who wants to make certain this never happens again." With the only "official" 9/11 report now totally false, where do we go from here? Who is hurt by these lies? The families of the victims of 9/11 have fought, for years, to get to the truth. For years, our government has hidden behind lies and secrecy to deny them closure.http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september112009/911_truth_9-11-09.php

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Fri 09/07/12 08:45 PM
Lying is not very effective in a country like the US with open press and freedom of the press because various news organizations will fact check and criticize propaganda and reveal poor journalism and outright lies. So yeah...in the US it is not such a big problem as it is in other countries where the news organizations are only mouthpieces of the prevailing regime. "in the US it is NOT SUCH A BIG PROBLEM" sounds like a problem to me as it clearly suggests lying. What other countries do is their business, we dont live in other countries. As for media, all media in the US lie just as much as others, we are not exempt from lying. No Empire can function without it. And there are well documented cases of historical and current cases of goverment coverups, lying and corruption. When NSA says kill a story, it dead on arrival. The rest suggesting moral integrity is mere wishfull thinking and illusions. Afterall, we are a Christian nation who believe in the devil, yet to distracted to realize the devil is man, and we all know the devil lies. Exactly. One would think the 911 commission disowning its own report would be very newsworthy, even if they are wrong its a headliner. I am sure since it was not headlined and echoed people simply do not believe it, well it is the reality.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Fri 09/07/12 08:47 PM
Media has always worked in harmony with goverment endeavors and efforts promoting political agendas. The various manufacturers of weapons and other corporations contributed to the war effort in Iraq. PROOF THAT GOVERMENT CONTROL MEDIA IS THE PROHIBITION OF AMERICAN WAR CASUALTIES FROM BEING AIRED ON PUBLIC NEWS OUTLETS. Hollywood has had its share of contributing to sway public opinion towards war efforts as well, BLACKHAWK DOWN was a movie made to encorage the masses to eccept war in Somalia. The UNITED STATES WAR DEPT. (now the DEPT. OF DEFENCE) had their own cinematic productions during WWl and ll. Today, Hollywood eagerly will promote and produce any movie that in conjunction with media are designed to psychologically sway public opinion one way or the other. The same metheds used to sell you a product by subliminal messages in comercials, advertisment, are the same mechanics used in everyday activities such as shopping, newspapers use the same science of subliminal enticement. To suggest the a corporate owned and sponsered news outlet as free press is simply ubsurd. Not one so called free press was allowed to report the distributions of contracts awarded to the countries who provided soldiers to the Iraqi war. With the exception of Germany who accidently revealed that the contracts to provide and rebuild satalite and antena towers in Iraq was awarded to Germany by the IMF. Not one American news outlet were allowed to release the names of the companys and multinational corporations awarded lucrative contracts to rebuilding the destroyed Iraqi infrastructure. Your American so called free press were also forbiden on revealing the hegdefund bonuses awarded to the countries to invest in the infrastructure of Iraq. France, Britain, and Germany all stand to gain from lucrative contracts in rebuilding the entire electrical grid of Iraq. Free press? In your dreams.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Fri 09/07/12 09:02 PM Edited by Ras427 on Fri 09/07/12 09:05 PM
More proof Hollywood contributes to the guilible mindless masses who blindly follow their goverments lying tricks. THE NEWLY RELEASED MOVIE ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA, convieniently released just prior to the Republican Convention. If someone tells you our goverment tells you the truth, they are lying to you. To deny our goverments lies require no proof, but to call our goverment liers require proof, of which much is documented historicly as well as currently. IM MORE INCLINED TO DISBELIEVE MY GOVERMENT THEN BELIEVE, AS I UNDERSTAND THE NATURAL INCLINATION OF A WORLD POWER IS TO LIE, WHEREAS TO TELL THE MASSES THE TRUTH IS WHOLELY UNNATURAL, COUNTERPRODUCTIVE, NOT TO MENTION IT UNDERMINES OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sat 09/08/12 12:13 AM
Lying is not very effective in a country like the US with open press and freedom of the press because various news organizations will fact check and criticize propaganda and reveal poor journalism and outright lies. So yeah...in the US it is not such a big problem as it is in other countries where the news organizations are only mouthpieces of the prevailing regime. "in the US it is NOT SUCH A BIG PROBLEM" sounds like a problem to me as it clearly suggests lying. What other countries do is their business, we dont live in other countries. As for media, all media in the US lie just as much as others, we are not exempt from lying. No Empire can function without it. And there are well documented cases of historical and current cases of goverment coverups, lying and corruption. When NSA says kill a story, it dead on arrival. The rest suggesting moral integrity is mere wishfull thinking and illusions. Afterall, we are a Christian nation who believe in the devil, yet to distracted to realize the devil is man, and we all know the devil lies. Exactly. One would think the 911 commission disowning its own report would be very newsworthy, even if they are wrong its a headliner. I am sure since it was not headlined and echoed people simply do not believe it, well it is the reality. That isn't what happened.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sat 09/08/12 04:59 AM Edited by Bestinshow on Sat 09/08/12 05:00 AM
Lying is not very effective in a country like the US with open press and freedom of the press because various news organizations will fact check and criticize propaganda and reveal poor journalism and outright lies. So yeah...in the US it is not such a big problem as it is in other countries where the news organizations are only mouthpieces of the prevailing regime. "in the US it is NOT SUCH A BIG PROBLEM" sounds like a problem to me as it clearly suggests lying. What other countries do is their business, we dont live in other countries. As for media, all media in the US lie just as much as others, we are not exempt from lying. No Empire can function without it. And there are well documented cases of historical and current cases of goverment coverups, lying and corruption. When NSA says kill a story, it dead on arrival. The rest suggesting moral integrity is mere wishfull thinking and illusions. Afterall, we are a Christian nation who believe in the devil, yet to distracted to realize the devil is man, and we all know the devil lies. Exactly. One would think the 911 commission disowning its own report would be very newsworthy, even if they are wrong its a headliner. I am sure since it was not headlined and echoed people simply do not believe it, well it is the reality. That isn't what happened. Um yea they did

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sat 09/08/12 06:36 AM
Lying is not very effective in a country like the US with open press and freedom of the press because various news organizations will fact check and criticize propaganda and reveal poor journalism and outright lies. So yeah...in the US it is not such a big problem as it is in other countries where the news organizations are only mouthpieces of the prevailing regime. "in the US it is NOT SUCH A BIG PROBLEM" sounds like a problem to me as it clearly suggests lying. What other countries do is their business, we dont live in other countries. As for media, all media in the US lie just as much as others, we are not exempt from lying. No Empire can function without it. And there are well documented cases of historical and current cases of goverment coverups, lying and corruption. When NSA says kill a story, it dead on arrival. The rest suggesting moral integrity is mere wishfull thinking and illusions. Afterall, we are a Christian nation who believe in the devil, yet to distracted to realize the devil is man, and we all know the devil lies. Exactly. One would think the 911 commission disowning its own report would be very newsworthy, even if they are wrong its a headliner. I am sure since it was not headlined and echoed people simply do not believe it, well it is the reality. That isn't what happened. Um yea they did You want to mix events that have noting to do with each other (like the air defense system and the buildings falling) and then take tiny unimportant facts and spread their meaning to everything else. It is just silly and dishonest. Some guy who is trying to justify his inaction has noting to do with how the buildings fell.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Sat 09/08/12 07:47 AM
Slow, you are indeed slow in catching on, so ill leave you with this fact, Homeland Security does indeed moniter all websights in the US since 911 to moneter potential domestic and international terrorists groups. If you watch television, you are being controled by media, how else do comercials sell you a product. Its called SUBLIMINAL DEDUCTION, check it out, you will learn something new.

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sat 09/08/12 11:20 AM Edited by s1owhand on Sat 09/08/12 12:00 PM
Slow, you are indeed slow in catching on, so ill leave you with this fact, Homeland Security does indeed moniter all websights in the US since 911 to moneter potential domestic and international terrorists groups. If you watch television, you are being controled by media, how else do comercials sell you a product. Its called SUBLIMINAL DEDUCTION, check it out, you will learn something new. So you don't think we should monitor domestic and international terrorists? And you think that BOTH the Mouseketeers AND subliminal advertising exercise thought control over us? How can we be sure?! There is only one logical conclusion. WE ARE ONLY SAYING WHAT THEY WANT US TO SAY. BETTER BE QUIET OR RISK SPREADING THE CANCER!! I use the tinfoil anti-mouseketeer helmet!! They block the Disney Channel and subliminal advertising on the Playboy channel, ESPN AND al-Jazeera!! And contiunously monitor for encrypted extraterrestrial messages.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sat 09/08/12 11:43 AM
9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out" is getting public attention and casting doubt on the scientific validity of the U.S. government's investigation into the WTC tragedy. PBS is the first major network to air the program. Just days away from the 11th anniversary of the World Trade Center tragedy and months away from the U.S. presidential election, a game-changing 9/11 documentary is ranking number three among "most watched" documentaries on PBS and number one among "most shared." Available for free online August 18th - September 4th, the documentary could have a significant effect on public opinion. [Update: PBS has extended viewing indefinitely.] Both the Republicans and Democrats, as equally staunch defenders of the official story, stand to be affected if the public's suspicion of government corruption grows deeper. An earlier report on Digital Journal found that the claims made in the documentary can be verified by reading the government reports themselves. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the government agency charged with the investigation, did not provide any data -- no measurements or estimates -- of the mass or energy that would be required to bring down the buildings in about ten seconds. Normally a scientific report would present all the data that is used to construct a theory. The omission of data is a red flag to anyone familiar with scientific procedure. It appears that the investigators may have intentionally produced reports that the scientific community would reject. According to the experts appearing in Explosive Evidence, the scientific community did reject the reports immediately, but it has taken a very long time for this message to reach the public. Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, the producers of the documentary, have been trying to educate the public for a number of years. The PBS broadcast of their work represents a major step forward for them. While most people have probably heard that a scientific investigation has been conducted and that the building collapses were explained, few have probably looked at the NIST reports themselves. Links to the NIST reports can be found in the above mentioned Digital Journal article. NIST provides no data whatsoever on the actual collapse sequence itself. The new attention to the issue could be significant for the U.S. presidential election. Prior to the publication of the reports in 2005 and 2008, almost half the population was suspicious of the official story of 9/11, according to several opinion polls. Since then the 9/11 tragedy has been used to direct the policies that have led to the enormous increases in military spending and to a loss of civil liberties in the U.S. and worldwide. Like this article559 Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/332051#tab=comments&sc=1530297#ixzz25oWsSjMd same Garbage regurgitated by PBS another year!

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Sat 09/08/12 12:08 PM Edited by Ras427 on Sat 09/08/12 12:17 PM
Slow, you are indeed slow in catching on, so ill leave you with this fact, Homeland Security does indeed moniter all websights in the US since 911 to moneter potential domestic and international terrorists groups. If you watch television, you are being controled by media, how else do comercials sell you a product. Its called SUBLIMINAL DEDUCTION, check it out, you will learn something new. So you don't think we should monitor domestic and international terrorists? And you think that BOTH the Mouseketeers AND subliminal advertising exercise thought control over you? How can you be sure?! There is only one logical conclusion. YOU ARE ONLY SAYING WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO SAY. BETTER BE QUIET OR RISK SPREADING THE CANCER!! I use the tinfoil anti-mouseketeer helmet!! Actually you raise an interesting point on the crucial art of subliminal deduction used in everyda life. Your simplistic analogy useing a cartoon actually represented a subconscious confirmation as to the limited position held, the cartoon has always been used in various forms to influence children to urge parents to submitt to a specific desire or wish. The goverment has always monotored its own citizens. Subliminal influence is often referred to as a stimulus that exists below the threshold of our conscious mind or outside of our conscious awareness. Its an influence that we dont notice. In other words people have no awareness of the stimulus being used which leading towards influencing their motivation and thinking. Its the difference between something that we can process in our conscious mind and something that enters the subconscious mind without any conscious recognition. As for spreading the cancer, most people are alreading infected with the cancer called ignorence and mental slumber. An unfortunate condition most will remain in. Finally the goverment knows the scientific process to condition mental swaying. Our society could not function without it. Political advisores are all masters at subliminal deduction, they understand the mental neutrility the masses maintain. Just watch the presidential advertisments both canidates will use to influence which way you vote. Simple psychology.

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sat 09/08/12 04:47 PM Edited by s1owhand on Sat 09/08/12 04:50 PM
Slow, you are indeed slow in catching on, so ill leave you with this fact, Homeland Security does indeed moniter all websights in the US since 911 to moneter potential domestic and international terrorists groups. If you watch television, you are being controled by media, how else do comercials sell you a product. Its called SUBLIMINAL DEDUCTION, check it out, you will learn something new. So you don't think we should monitor domestic and international terrorists? And you think that BOTH the Mouseketeers AND subliminal advertising exercise thought control over you? How can you be sure?! There is only one logical conclusion. YOU ARE ONLY SAYING WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO SAY. BETTER BE QUIET OR RISK SPREADING THE CANCER!! I use the tinfoil anti-mouseketeer helmet!! Actually you raise an interesting point on the crucial art of subliminal deduction used in everyda life. Your simplistic analogy useing a cartoon actually represented a subconscious confirmation as to the limited position held, the cartoon has always been used in various forms to influence children to urge parents to submitt to a specific desire or wish. The goverment has always monotored its own citizens. Subliminal influence is often referred to as a stimulus that exists below the threshold of our conscious mind or outside of our conscious awareness. Its an influence that we dont notice. In other words people have no awareness of the stimulus being used which leading towards influencing their motivation and thinking. Its the difference between something that we can process in our conscious mind and something that enters the subconscious mind without any conscious recognition. As for spreading the cancer, most people are alreading infected with the cancer called ignorence and mental slumber. An unfortunate condition most will remain in. Finally the goverment knows the scientific process to condition mental swaying. Our society could not function without it. Political advisores are all masters at subliminal deduction, they understand the mental neutrility the masses maintain. Just watch the presidential advertisments both canidates will use to influence which way you vote. Simple psychology. Too simple. But it definitely explains my cravings for pop tarts, Bratz and Pokemon! I'm going to secure my tinfoil mouse ears and ride them out cold turkey!

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Sat 09/08/12 05:10 PM Edited by Ras427 on Sat 09/08/12 05:17 PM
Slow, you are indeed slow in catching on, so ill leave you with this fact, Homeland Security does indeed moniter all websights in the US since 911 to moneter potential domestic and international terrorists groups. If you watch television, you are being controled by media, how else do comercials sell you a product. Its called SUBLIMINAL DEDUCTION, check it out, you will learn something new. So you don't think we should monitor domestic and international terrorists? And you think that BOTH the Mouseketeers AND subliminal advertising exercise thought control over you? How can you be sure?! There is only one logical conclusion. YOU ARE ONLY SAYING WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO SAY. BETTER BE QUIET OR RISK SPREADING THE CANCER!! I use the tinfoil anti-mouseketeer helmet!! Actually you raise an interesting point on the crucial art of subliminal deduction used in everyda life. Your simplistic analogy useing a cartoon actually represented a subconscious confirmation as to the limited position held, the cartoon has always been used in various forms to influence children to urge parents to submitt to a specific desire or wish. The goverment has always monotored its own citizens. Subliminal influence is often referred to as a stimulus that exists below the threshold of our conscious mind or outside of our conscious awareness. Its an influence that we dont notice. In other words people have no awareness of the stimulus being used which leading towards influencing their motivation and thinking. Its the difference between something that we can process in our conscious mind and something that enters the subconscious mind without any conscious recognition. As for spreading the cancer, most people are alreading infected with the cancer called ignorence and mental slumber. An unfortunate condition most will remain in. Finally the goverment knows the scientific process to condition mental swaying. Our society could not function without it. Political advisores are all masters at subliminal deduction, they understand the mental neutrility the masses maintain. Just watch the presidential advertisments both canidates will use to influence which way you vote. Simple psychology. Too simple. But it definitely explains my cravings for pop tarts, Bratz and Pokemon! I'm going to secure my tinfoil mouse ears and ride them out cold turkey! I completely understand, subjects such as this is somewhat difficult for some. May I suggest a simpler topic, perhaps you can start a new thread more suited for your responce, im sure you will enlighten me as to the relevence of mickey mouse towards this thread. I to do enjoy cartoons, although I usually regulate them to a more less demanding of intellect forum. Although I like Rihana, pokemon and mickey mouse are somewhat of topic, however on another thread dedicated more to limited conversation im sure one will find others that will gladly challenge this level of dialogue. Good luck.