All experts, have a duty to confirm the official version, they would not dare present opposing data contridicting the official version, that would be a career ender.

This is total bs. Experts have no such duty. And there are millions that don't even live in this country. Plus there are those of us that have taken an oath. I am part of the order of engineers.

"I am an engineer,.in my profession I take deep pride. Since the stone age, human progress has been spurred by the engineers genius. Engineers have made usable nature's cast resources of material and energy for humanity's benefit. Engineers have vitalized and turned to practical use of principles of science and the means of technology. Were it not for this heritage of accumulated experience, my efforts would be feeble. As an engineer,.I pledge to practice integrity and fair dealing, tolerance, and respect, and to uphold devotion to the standards and the dignity of my profession, conscious always that my skill carries with it an obligation to server humanity by making the best use of earth's preciouswealth. As an engineer, I shall participate in none but honest enterprises. When needed, my skill and knowledge shall be given without reservation for the public good. In the performance of duty and in fidelity to my profession. I shall give the utmost. "

This is total bs. Experts have no such duty. And there are millions that don't even live in this country. Plus there are those of us that have taken an oath. I am part of the order of engineers.

"I am an engineer,.in my profession I take deep pride. Since the stone age, human progress has been spurred by the engineers genius. Engineers have made usable nature's cast resources of material and energy for humanity's benefit. Engineers have vitalized and turned to practical use of principles of science and the means of technology. Were it not for this heritage of accumulated experience, my efforts would be feeble. As an engineer,.I pledge to practice integrity and fair dealing, tolerance, and respect, and to uphold devotion to the standards and the dignity of my profession, conscious always that my skill carries with it an obligation to server humanity by making the best use of earth's preciouswealth. As an engineer, I shall participate in none but honest enterprises. When needed, my skill and knowledge shall be given without reservation for the public good. In the performance of duty and in fidelity to my profession. I shall give the utmost. "

True debating requires one primary ingredient, FACTS...

...and it is impossible to have all the facts regarding this topic as most of the data regarding 911 is still classified and its full release would undermine the integrity of National Security, leaving you to be an expert on limited info to go on.

All info concerning 911 is limited are what is known is mot fully disclosed.

Therefore there are no tools required for this topics, just the ego.

At the end of the day experts opinions matter little as well, as their first inclination is dependent on goverments version of events.

My respect goes to your profession and your commitment to it. And I agree with your post regarding the great contributions made by engineers throughtout the ages, from the khemetian pyramids to the Sphinx to the great modern marval of egineering, however my position remains the same as I stated before, I dont believe you nor anyone who upholds the excepted official version, no matter who said what with whatever authority or expertise they profess. However your expertise is respected by me, its just not excepted by me. I could careless who excepts what or what they believe. Nor what experts say, I dont believe the full truth is known nor will it be known for sometime.

Al credible scientist and engineers have agreed for a long time
now that the World Trade Center was brought down by airplanes
loaded with fuel piloted by radical islamist al-qaeda terrorists
under the direction of osama bin laden.

So all the other dumbazz theorists can fantasize all they want about
other nonsense and it doesn't amount to diddley-doink. This matter
was laid to rest years ago as far as the science and engineering
goes.

No one buys the official 911 report not even the men who wrote it, your comments are totally absurd.

Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities’ School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.

armer states…“at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened… I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.”
http://coto2.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/the-911-commission-rejects-own-report-as-based-on-government-lies/

who is "no one"? i know lots of people that understand science and physics that know it happened the way they said it did... there really is not much room for doubt. The sad thing is that less intelligent people fall for the tricks and fake scientists that want to make money off of it and start making up lies about it to sell a book...

The 9/11 Commission head, Thomas Kean, was the Republican governor of New Jersey. He had the following to say… “We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth. . . ” When Bush’s own handpicked commission failed to go along with the cover up and requested a criminal investigation, why was nothing done?

9/11 Commission member and former US Senator, Bob Kerrey, says, “No one is more qualified to write the definitive book about the tragedy of 9/11 than John Farmer. Fortunately, he has done so. Even more fortunately the language is clear, alive and instructive for anyone who wants to make certain this never happens again.”

With the only “official” 9/11 report now totally false, where do we go from here?
http://coto2.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/the-911-commission-rejects-own-report-as-based-on-government-lies/

My primary reason for believing the official version regarding 911 rests mostly on the adamence of so called experts, pundits and most deniers in their great desire to ridicule those who dont believe the offivial version. The key lies in information along with carefull observation, as opposed to a bunch of unleashed so called experts to convince the masses. First and foremost, who owns the media? GOVERMENT SPOMSORS MEDIA, but who owns them? And how does information regarding 911 been so obscured? Yes so called experts claim their satisfaction towards the official version. Are they really? Would they indeed expose any descreprency. And why is it America bashing or hating to question the official story. Indeed it is my and all true lovers of freedom duty to question. The only ones offended are those who have vested interests or simply can not fanthom the possibility that you are the ones who are in fact mindless. Most sound even convincing. But who asked these experts? Again I question media and their cozy relationship with goverment and multonational cprporations, two of which owned CBS and NBC during the first Persian gulf war. Yes Westinghouse and General Electric owned both major news network. Both Corporations made most of the parts for the weopons for that war. How about the rest of the media? In 1983, there were fifty companies who owned approximately 90% of the American media. However the media landscape has changed dramaticly in the last 30 years due to globalization, commercialization, and large scale consalidation. Currently there are 6, count them 6 main media giants which control 90% of American media. These 6 media conglomarates control 90% of what we read, 90% of what we watch, and 90% of what we listen to on a daily basis. Who are these 6 media giants exactly and which companys do they own. Well they were all pushing the official versionbof 911 with their scientific engineers all the supposibly intelligent experts. Lets start with TIME WARNER, they own HBO, TIME INC. TURNER BROADCASTING, SPORTS ILLUSTRATED, FORTUNE MAGAZINE, PEOPLE MAGAZINE, TNT, TBS, TMZ, CARTOON CHANNEL. WALT DISNEY: owns ABCt.v network, Disney publishing, ESPN, A&E, lifetime, touchstone, VIACOM: owns bet, cmt, comedy central, spike t.v and more, CBS Corp. own infinity, cbs news network, CBS radio with 130 stations, showtime, NFL, COMCAST: owns much as well, like nb c sports, oxygen, CNBC, ect. My point is with all this media who as always puts profit above all, how can one honestly believe our media has told us anything regarding 911? All these multinational corporations whos huge profits come in the form of advertisement revenues, who given the dependency that media corporations have on their sponsors, you mean to tell me that many networks will actually report new that will threaten their relationship with their fellow advertisers? At the end of the day the companies loyalties lies in the hands of sponsors, both advertisers and the GOVERMENT alike who are funding their operations. I dont believebthem nor anyone here professing to know anything then have the nerve to use egineers that can easily be swayed as a reference? I hot a bridge to sell.

Last night my 10 year old daughter was doing her homework and her assignment was to interview me on what I remembered from the morning of 9/11/01.

Her: Do you remember when the building fell on top of the other building and knocked it down?

Me: The building didn't fall on the other building.

Her: Really?

Me: Yes, the building fell straight down onto itself.

Her: (Looking surprised) Huh. That's weird.

Me: Yep.

I don't share my conspiracy theories with my children. But, even a 10 year old knows when a building collapses it doesn't pancake down naturally.

And why is it America bashing or hating to question the official story.

Actively it does. A child doesn't understand foundations, inertia, force equations, etc. Why would the building fall anywhere but down? Where are external forces that would move that mass in a new direction?

We've been through this debate over and over and over. All the information is out there. Either you believe the official story or you don't. No matter to me. I am posting in support of those who question the story because they are routinely made fun of here.