All experts, have a duty to confirm the official version, they would not dare present opposing data contridicting the official version, that would be a career ender.

In the words of Public Enemy, "dont believe the hype". Poor Americans, they are suckers.

This is total bs. Experts have no such duty. And there are millions that don't even live in this country. Plus there are those of us that have taken an oath. I am part of the order of engineers.

"I am an engineer,.in my profession I take deep pride. Since the stone age, human progress has been spurred by the engineers genius. Engineers have made usable nature's cast resources of material and energy for humanity's benefit. Engineers have vitalized and turned to practical use of principles of science and the means of technology. Were it not for this heritage of accumulated experience, my efforts would be feeble. As an engineer,.I pledge to practice integrity and fair dealing, tolerance, and respect, and to uphold devotion to the standards and the dignity of my profession, conscious always that my skill carries with it an obligation to server humanity by making the best use of earth's preciouswealth. As an engineer, I shall participate in none but honest enterprises. When needed, my skill and knowledge shall be given without reservation for the public good. In the performance of duty and in fidelity to my profession. I shall give the utmost. "

Al credible scientist and engineers have agreed for a long time
now that the World Trade Center was brought down by airplanes
loaded with fuel piloted by radical islamist al-qaeda terrorists
under the direction of osama bin laden.

So all the other dumbazz theorists can fantasize all they want about
other nonsense and it doesn't amount to diddley-doink. This matter
was laid to rest years ago as far as the science and engineering
goes.

My respect goes to your profession and your commitment to it. And I agree with your post regarding the great contributions made by engineers throughtout the ages, from the khemetian pyramids to the Sphinx to the great modern marval of egineering, however my position remains the same as I stated before, I dont believe you nor anyone who upholds the excepted official version, no matter who said what with whatever authority or expertise they profess. However your expertise is respected by me, its just not excepted by me. I could careless who excepts what or what they believe. Nor what experts say, I dont believe the full truth is known nor will it be known for sometime.

Twoofers don't have any.




If it is classified, you're only speculating on the nature of this information, therefore, it is entirely fictitious.




And twoofers just speculate on what this information might be, or whether it exists at all.



Incorrect.



Incorrect, structural & mechanical engineering, as well as physics do not require a hypothetical political premise to assess the science of attacks.

it's good to know that you have an open mind on the subject...

No one buys the official 911 report not even the men who wrote it, your comments are totally absurd.

Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities’ School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.

armer states…“at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened… I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.”
http://coto2.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/the-911-commission-rejects-own-report-as-based-on-government-lies/

who is "no one"? i know lots of people that understand science and physics that know it happened the way they said it did... there really is not much room for doubt. The sad thing is that less intelligent people fall for the tricks and fake scientists that want to make money off of it and start making up lies about it to sell a book...

I concur. I know many people educated in the various sciences that have no problem with the NIST report. I also know many people that aren't educated in these fields that are willing to believe anything that fuels their hatred for the US. In addition, Farmer's quote above does not reject the original report, but highlights a discrepancy. Exaggeration is a key tactic of the twoofer movement.

The 9/11 Commission head, Thomas Kean, was the Republican governor of New Jersey. He had the following to say… “We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth. . . ” When Bush’s own handpicked commission failed to go along with the cover up and requested a criminal investigation, why was nothing done?

9/11 Commission member and former US Senator, Bob Kerrey, says, “No one is more qualified to write the definitive book about the tragedy of 9/11 than John Farmer. Fortunately, he has done so. Even more fortunately the language is clear, alive and instructive for anyone who wants to make certain this never happens again.”

With the only “official” 9/11 report now totally false, where do we go from here?
http://coto2.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/the-911-commission-rejects-own-report-as-based-on-government-lies/

totally false? maybe you should drink more kool-aid...

My primary reason for believing the official version regarding 911 rests mostly on the adamence of so called experts, pundits and most deniers in their great desire to ridicule those who dont believe the official version. The key lies in information along with carefull observation, as opposed to a bunch of unleashed so called experts to convince the masses. First and foremost, who owns the media? GOVERMENT SPONSORS MEDIA, but who owns them? And how does information regarding 911 been so obscured? Yes so called experts claim their satisfaction towards the official version. Are they really? Would they indeed expose any descreprency. And why is it America bashing or hating to question the official story. Indeed it is my and all true lovers of freedom duty to question. The only ones offended are those who have vested interests or simply can not fanthom the possibility that you are the ones who are in fact mindless. Most sound even convincing. But who asked these experts? Again I question media and their cozy relationship with goverment and multonational corporations, two of which owned CBS and NBC during the first Persian gulf war. Yes Westinghouse and General Electric owned both major news network. Both Corporations made most of the parts for the weopons for that war. How about the rest of the media? In 1983, there were fifty companies who owned approximately 90% of the American media. However the media landscape has changed dramaticly in the last 30 years due to globalization, commercialization, and large scale consalidation. Currently there are 6, count them 6 main media giants which control 90% of American media. These 6 media conglomarates control 90% of what we read, 90% of what we watch, and 90% of what we listen to on a daily basis. Who are these 6 media giants exactly and which companys do they own. Well they were all pushing the official versionbof 911 with their scientific engineers all the supposibly intelligent experts. Lets start with TIME WARNER, they own HBO, TIME INC. TURNER BROADCASTING, SPORTS ILLUSTRATED, FORTUNE MAGAZINE, PEOPLE MAGAZINE, TNT, TBS, TMZ, CARTOON CHANNEL. WALT DISNEY: owns ABCt.v network, Disney publishing, ESPN, A&E, lifetime, touchstone, VIACOM: owns bet, cmt, comedy central, spike t.v and more, CBS Corp. own infinity, cbs news network, CBS radio with 130 stations, showtime, NFL, COMCAST: owns much as well, like nb c sports, oxygen, CNBC, ect. My point is with all this media who as always puts profit above all, how can one honestly believe our media has told us anything regarding 911? All these multinational corporations whos huge profits come in the form of advertisement revenues, who given the dependency that media corporations have on their sponsors, you mean to tell me that many networks will actually report new that will threaten their relationship with their fellow advertisers? At the end of the day the companies loyalties lies in the hands of sponsors, both advertisers and the GOVERMENT alike who are funding their operations. I dont believebthem nor anyone here professing to know anything then have the nerve to use egineers that can easily be swayed as a reference? I hot a bridge to sell.

I think you need to read this:

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/introtof.html

HOTRODDELUXE, I attempted to log on to the link you provide, however my personal computor is strictly for business, so im regulated to a not so smart smart phone. But if you care to expound as to the relevence of that link, id gladly hear the point in which it refers to. Im open for all points of view, however, asbim sure even those who support your position must with all intellect admitt, goverment tenicles of power and influence are far reaching, and my most ademant position is great distrust for goverment. It is great in that one should always question goverment. Many will say "no" to this position, however my position has and always will be of great distrust of the information given to us. Those who question will find the answers, weither they are to ones liking or not, but those who except without question only except, without question. My position remains the same in that im not suggesting who is right on this subject, and who is wrong, im simply saying goverments have proven historicly that they need to be monitored closely. I dont know if a conspiracy exists, but considering the climate of misleading info, ill always question.

Last night my 10 year old daughter was doing her homework and her assignment was to interview me on what I remembered from the morning of 9/11/01.

Her: Do you remember when the building fell on top of the other building and knocked it down?

Me: The building didn't fall on the other building.

Her: Really?

Me: Yes, the building fell straight down onto itself.

Her: (Looking surprised) Huh. That's weird.

Me: Yep.

I don't share my conspiracy theories with my children. But, even a 10 year old knows when a building collapses it doesn't pancake down naturally.

Actively it does. A child doesn't understand foundations, inertia, force equations, etc. Why would the building fall anywhere but down? Where are external forces that would move that mass in a new direction?

All you get from those who believe the official story is and and a lot of name calling. I don't understand this. I do understand why they believe what they do and I don't make fun of them. I'm not sure why they can't afford me (and others who don't believe) the same respect.

We've been through this debate over and over and over. All the information is out there. Either you believe the official story or you don't. No matter to me. I am posting in support of those who question the story because they are routinely made fun of here.

Let's stop using the word "official story" I could care less what the story is. Let's pretend it doesn't exist. Without reference to any of that please explain how you think the building should have fallen and Why. I have yet to see alternate theories that give any credible science and math to explain their dismissal of how the tower fell. If you think if should have fallen over please explain Why. This is not a joke. People seem to claim lots of stuff is impossible but it actually isn't. That is Why there is not a huge outrage in the scientific community.