sexual attraction doesn't affect lifestyle?
you're in a bubble,
so that's you, dear.

Saying they just judge behavior is an excuse. They're still judging the person.

sexual attraction doesnt DEFINE lifestyle,, no

as is evident by some people taking vows of ABSTINENCE from sex altogether (regardless of their attractions/lusts)

humans have much more power over our flesh than the world wants us to believe,,,,

There is no comparison. Gay people and child sex offenders are not similar. Society will always have 'sick people'. The worst 'sick people' are those who judge in ignorance.

only if they expect people to be perfect

I judge all people, as equal , in that all people are IMPERFECT/ have flaws and weaknesses


so my 'judgement' is that as humans we will make mistakes and errors and have weaknesses,, lord knows I do / have


that doesnt make any of us bad or good, it just makes us human

noone that I love or admire is without flaws, or has lived a life without making any bad choices or having any bad behaviors,,,yet I still love and admire those people

so no, judging behaviors, has nothing to do (for me) with judging the person

because behaviors can be corrected and no behavior by itself makes up the totality of who we 'are'.....

af·fect/əˈfekt/
Verb:
-Have an effect on; make a difference to.

de·fine/diˈfīn/
Verb:
-State or describe exactly the nature, scope, or meaning of.

why would we want to limit our own pleasure if it's harmless?

the only difference is ones behavior is unacceptable and the other is not

the 'reasons' provided for their actions are the same

its not 'harmless' at all


it only seems harmless because the parties involved are fulfilled and no specific individual outside the parties involved has any 'physical' harm

which is what society is pushing more and more as the only 'harm' that can be measured or should be significant..

What is perfect?

Based on this and other threads you judge people differently. You think some people should be allowed to do things, yet others aren't, based on your personal beliefs.

Which behaviors do you feel can/should be corrected?

One is a criminal. One is not. No comparison.

not sure where the first question comes from

in this and other threads I have repeatedly shared that I dont think anyone is PERFECT (perfect meaning without any flaws)


behaviours are obviously too numerous for us to seriously make lists of specific behaviors to 'correct'


I will make it personal to me though. I was once so addicted to sex, I almost engaged in a very 'permissive' lifestyle with my then partner. Although it would physically fulfill me in the moment, the effects it may have had on my daughter growing up when she inevitably figured out our lifestyle or the way she may feel about herself or be treated by others was not worth it to me.

the potential 'harm' it could cause her far outweighed the temporary satisfaction it may have allowed us



I was once eating a quart of ice cream a day,,,being a dancer and performer there was no immediate or visible 'harm' it caused me,, but I was aware that in the long run there became a fairly high COLLECTIVE RISK to my health and so I corrected it by cutting back greatly and making the ice cream a special and occasional 'treat' rather than a daily habit.



I was once under the impression that if I was in a relationship, I had to have sex. So every time I had a relationship, there was sex involved. Even if I wasnt sure 'love' had anything to do with the relationship. Even though I had no idea and had not planned or thought of learning about the complexity of my body or their body and what actually 'works' for either individual.

That resulted in more of a 'task', even when with the person I loved, because we were going through the 'expected' motions.

So, I learned about my body, and how the physical stimulus affected my emotional and intellectual reactions. I learned to cherish my body and its ability and potential to create life. I changed my perception so as to not just view sex or my body as a tool to express love or to fulfill lust. I changed my perception about sexual capacity being inherent and unalterable and dove into learning MORE and thus altering my ability over and over again.

Sex became an explosive exchange of LIFE for me, that could be achieved not due to gender or 'love' or lust, but due to each individuals knowledge of the body,, theirs and their partners.


,,,people should strive for behaviors that will be of maximum BENEFIT to themself and others

not that they have to have a life with exclusively those behaviors, but those should be the benchmarks we reach for.

I am an 18 year old girl, I have knwon about my being a lesbian since I was small. I have tried to date men, be with them, I cant, just as much as any of you can't be with the same sex. Why would a person chose to be made fun of, have their family turn against them, their friends turn their backs on them and be different? I did not want this for a very long time. I have accepted it, I am who I am, I am a lesbian just like some of you are straight. You can't be with the same sex just as much as I can't be with the oposite.

I agree its not about choice but what the op said you are just born that way. If people don't like it; they can take a flying leap. That's the whole problem with our society that if you don't go with the flow; then you are an outcast. Screw them. Live your life the way you want to. The only happiness that matters is yours.

ok i was trying not to bring god into this disscusion but i must say this. in the bible and in any translation you read no homosexual will enter the kingdom of heaven. we all know god is our creator and the supreme being,right? so if god says no homosexual will enter the kingdom of heaven then make someone gay so he/she cant enter, that makes no since

Sweet posted

The word perfect came from your first sentence.

And keeping with the topic of this thread, the behaviors I'm asking about would have to do with that. Surely, they aren't too numerous to mention



ok, so we are referring to sexual behaviors?


MSM activity which has an extraordinarily high susceptibility to passing along HIV/AIDS

promiscuous activity, which of course, increases the odds of spreading STD in general and the odds of creating life that is unwanted or terminated early on


activity highly likely to cause physical injury or risk, such as cutting, playing with fire, strangulation, asphyxiation, anal sex


these are some Sexual behaviors I feel would be worth correcting

yes, the consensus WITHIN The gay community is noone chose their behavior.

Sweet posted

The word perfect came from your first sentence.

And keeping with the topic of this thread, the behaviors I'm asking about would have to do with that. Surely, they aren't too numerous to mention



ok, so we are referring to sexual behaviors?


MSM activity which has an extraordinarily high susceptibility to passing along HIV/AIDS

promiscuous activity, which of course, increases the odds of spreading STD in general and the odds of creating life that is unwanted or terminated early on


activity highly likely to cause physical injury or risk, such as cutting, playing with fire, strangulation, asphyxiation, anal sex


these are some Sexual behaviors I feel would be worth correcting

ok i was trying not to bring god into this disscusion but i must say this. in the bible and in any translation you read no homosexual will enter the kingdom of heaven. we all know god is our creator and the supreme being,right? so if god says no homosexual will enter the kingdom of heaven then make someone gay so he/she cant enter, that makes no since