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If the spanking was done excessively without plausible reason, yes. Cowboy...and exactly how would that be determine and by who? which means it's time again for the child to fill out The Questionnaire 1..do you feel that your spanking was done excessively 2..do you feel that you spanking was done without plausible reasons 3..do you feel that you know what excessive or plausible means 4..do you feel that your spanking was an act of vengence 5..do you think mommy or daddy spanked you because they have unaddressed anger issues Again, does not matter what the child thinks on this matter. Do prisoners get a questioner of the same? No. Because it doesn't matter. Excessive would range to major physical and or emotional harm. And this known from common sense, no questions needed. Every person, man, woman, child, would feel the punishment was extensive if they do not feel they deserved a punishment, if they feel they did nothing wrong. And a child no matter what the child has done, naturally they will not feel as they have done wrong. This could range from stealing something, to fighting, to any number of possibilities. And again, yes when these problems start the parent will sit down with their child and discuss the matter. But again if that doesn't work, what else/more could you do but to SPANK the child. Not beat the child, not strangle the child, but to spank the child. |
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If the spanking was done excessively without plausible reason, yes. Cowboy...and exactly how would that be determine and by who? which means it's time again for the child to fill out The Questionnaire 1..do you feel that your spanking was done excessively 2..do you feel that you spanking was done without plausible reasons 3..do you feel that you know what excessive or plausible means 4..do you feel that your spanking was an act of vengence 5..do you think mommy or daddy spanked you because they have unaddressed anger issues Again, does not matter what the child thinks on this matter. Do prisoners get a questioner of the same? No. Because it doesn't matter. so to you a child's rights are on the same scale as a prisoner...and a child has no voice? ....if you respond...let's see if you can do so without as usual contradicting yourself .. Excessive would range to major physical and or emotional harm. And this known from common sense, I'm still waiting on you to use your common sense and explain how a parent would know that they are not doing any physical or emotional harm unless they took the child after each spanking to a doctor a psychiatrist or have them fill out a questionnaire? no questions needed. right...I guess the police were wasting their time when they asked Creflo's daughter questions |
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But again if that doesn't work, what else/more could you do but to SPANK the child. Not beat the child, not strangle the child, but to spank the child. so whats next if spanking don't work |
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If the spanking was done excessively without plausible reason, yes. Cowboy...and exactly how would that be determine and by who? which means it's time again for the child to fill out The Questionnaire 1..do you feel that your spanking was done excessively 2..do you feel that you spanking was done without plausible reasons 3..do you feel that you know what excessive or plausible means 4..do you feel that your spanking was an act of vengence 5..do you think mommy or daddy spanked you because they have unaddressed anger issues Again, does not matter what the child thinks on this matter. Do prisoners get a questioner of the same? No. Because it doesn't matter. so to you a child's rights are on the same scale as a prisoner...and a child has no voice? ....if you respond...let's see if you can do so without as usual contradicting yourself .. Excessive would range to major physical and or emotional harm. And this known from common sense, I'm still waiting on you to use your common sense and explain how a parent would know that they are not doing any physical or emotional harm unless they took the child after each spanking to a doctor a psychiatrist or have them fill out a questionnaire? no questions needed. right...I guess the police were wasting their time when they asked Creflo's daughter questions so to you a child's rights are on the same scale as a prisoner...and a child has no voice? ....if you respond...let's see if you can do so without as usual contradicting yourself .. You missed the point as always. No a child's right are not the same scale as a prisoner in exacts. That's not where the comparison laid. A child being PUNISHED is just that, being PUNISHED. The child does not get to say what THEY feel is a good punishment. If they don't like the punishment or feel it was harsh, I would suggest to them not to do things that get them punished. I'm still waiting on you to use your common sense and explain how a parent would know that they are not doing any physical or emotional harm unless they took the child after each spanking to a doctor a psychiatrist or have them fill out a questionnaire? If someone needs a doctor or a psychiatrist to tell them they are hurting their children, they need to be castrated or have their tubes tied, for they are either not ready for a child or not mentally well enough. |
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You missed the point as always. No a child's right are not the same scale as a prisoner in exacts. That's not where the comparison laid. A child being PUNISHED is just that, being PUNISHED. The child does not get to say what THEY feel is a good punishment. If they don't like the punishment or feel it was harsh, I would suggest to them not to do things that get them punished. so Cowboy... you're saying that Creflo's daughter should have remainded silent about her punishment of being choked...that if she didn't want to get choked she shouldn't have done what she did If someone needs a doctor or a psychiatrist to tell them they are hurting their children, they need to be castrated or have their tubes tied, for they are either not ready for a child or not mentally well enough. so what about a Father that get arrested for choking their 15 year old daughter and their older daughter claimed to have witness the choking incident...should that father be castrated or have his tube tied? I prophesize that a contradiction is about to take place |
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Ive explained it already,, just like shooting someone may be murder, or manslaughter or self defense or making someone stay in a room may be unlawful (as in the case of a grown up) or disciplinary (as in the case of your own child) or refusing to feed someone might be neglect(in the case of your own child) or a simple right of choice(in the case of an adult stranger) there isnt an action that can be thrown out in solitude that always comes out the same way as long as the variables can be/are different its been explained that physical damage, intention, and alot of other things play into what is 'abusive' doing NOTHING with a child is abusive because they have needs, emotional and physical what each childs emotional and physical needs are and how they can be best met in THEIR home environment is totally dependent upon the FAMILY And not some quick fix , one size fits all philosophies about disciplining or loving them,,, no, I mean the variables and specifics of the ones doing the hitting being kicked punched,hormones raging and tossing up her cookies for 9 months it's only logical that the Mother might hold some resentment for the Child then after the child is born it's like a little sociopath that does nothing but cry in order to manipulate the mother to do it's bidding the child keeps the Mother from sleeping from eating from making sound judgements which places the Mother under stress ... couldn't a spanking be viewed as revenge yep, and a shooting could be viewed as self defense or murder depending upon a little detail called MOTIVE if the spanking is in response to an infant crying,,,or if it is in response to a toddler or older child refusing to mind |
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If the spanking was done excessively without plausible reason, yes. Cowboy...and exactly how would that be determine and by who? which means it's time again for the child to fill out The Questionnaire 1..do you feel that your spanking was done excessively 2..do you feel that you spanking was done without plausible reasons 3..do you feel that you know what excessive or plausible means 4..do you feel that your spanking was an act of vengence 5..do you think mommy or daddy spanked you because they have unaddressed anger issues who determines if spanking an adult is foreplay or an attack who determines who is 'socially drinking' and who is 'drunk' no absolute answers here,, all just depending upon those involved and the DETAILS and OUTCOME of the specific situation... |
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Edited by
funches
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Tue 07/31/12 05:34 AM
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yep, and a shooting could be viewed as self defense or murder wouldn't that depends on it the gun you spanked your child with was loaded or not....MsHarmony...you are clearly the Mistress of Bad analogies depending upon a little detail called MOTIVE if the spanking is in response to an infant crying,,,or if it is in response to a toddler or older child refusing to mind again you are trying to deflect away from the question and once again shift all the blame to the child the question was due to the stress or resentment of carrying the child for 9 months and the stress of raising the child afterwards cause a parent to strike the child out of revenge |
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who determines if spanking an adult is foreplay or an attack a spanking intentionally perpetrated upon an unwilling party would fall under the category of an attack like child spanking is domestic abuse unless both parties agree violence intentionally prepetrated inside the house to an unwilling party that resides in that dwelling is classified as domestic abuse .... who determines who is 'socially drinking' and who is 'drunk' MsHarmony...socialist drinkers are'nt drunks...they're communists no absolute answers here,, all just depending upon those involved and the DETAILS and OUTCOME of the specific situation... is there any doubt that violence intentionally prepetrated upon an unwilling party would be an assault....it's just that some perfer to call it a spanking |
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You missed the point as always. No a child's right are not the same scale as a prisoner in exacts. That's not where the comparison laid. A child being PUNISHED is just that, being PUNISHED. The child does not get to say what THEY feel is a good punishment. If they don't like the punishment or feel it was harsh, I would suggest to them not to do things that get them punished. so Cowboy... you're saying that Creflo's daughter should have remainded silent about her punishment of being choked...that if she didn't want to get choked she shouldn't have done what she did If someone needs a doctor or a psychiatrist to tell them they are hurting their children, they need to be castrated or have their tubes tied, for they are either not ready for a child or not mentally well enough. so what about a Father that get arrested for choking their 15 year old daughter and their older daughter claimed to have witness the choking incident...should that father be castrated or have his tube tied? I prophesize that a contradiction is about to take place so Cowboy... you're saying that Creflo's daughter should have remainded silent about her punishment of being choked...that if she didn't want to get choked she shouldn't have done what she did No she shouldn't have, and no I didn't say that or insinuate that. Where do you get this stuff Funches? so what about a Father that get arrested for choking their 15 year old daughter and their older daughter claimed to have witness the choking incident...should that father be castrated or have his tube tied? No, I wouldn't necassarily approve of such things as supporting castrating men and what not. That was purely said to make a point and show how I felt about people beating on their children. But of course, since you are not here to discuss but to argue and belittle you take it way out into left field again. But in all seriousness, if a parent is caught to the extreme of choking their child, that child should definitely be taken away. And the parent would have to earn the child back in one way or other, community service or whatever plan they could think of. |
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[No she shouldn't have, and no I didn't say that or insinuate that. Where do you get this stuff Funches? well I get this stuff from either one of three of your "Cowboy multi-personalities" which refuse to take responsibility for what the other two "Cowboy personalities" post "Cowboy 1" just claimed that it's the daughter's fault for being choked by her Father...and now "Cowboy 2" is claiming that "Cowboy 1" didn't insinuate that claim ...I can only ponder what "Cowboy 3" thinks No, I wouldn't necassarily approve of such things as supporting castrating men and what not. That was purely said to make a point and show how I felt about people beating on their children. But of course, since you are not here to discuss but to argue and belittle you take it way out into left field again. "Cowboy 1" just claimed that men that choke their daughters should be castrated and now "Cowboy 3" is trying to blame me as to the reason why you "Cowboy 1" would post such a thing..... "Cowboy 1".. I tried to teach you over and over to think before you post...perhaps your refusal to conform to my Will is a result from a lack of spankings your parents gave to "Cowboy 2" But in all seriousness, if a parent is caught to the extreme of choking their child, that child should definitely be taken away. And the parent would have to earn the child back in one way or other, community service or whatever plan they could think of. since Creflo "A Man of God" was accused of choking his daughter are you saying that Creflo's daughter should be taken away? |
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Edited by
CowboyGH
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Tue 07/31/12 10:02 AM
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[No she shouldn't have, and no I didn't say that or insinuate that. Where do you get this stuff Funches? I like cheese No, I wouldn't necassarily approve of such things as supporting castrating men and what not. That was purely said to make a point and show how I felt about people beating on their children. But of course, since you are not here to discuss but to argue and belittle you take it way out into left field again. i like it alot But in all seriousness, if a parent is caught to the extreme of choking their child, that child should definitely be taken away. And the parent would have to earn the child back in one way or other, community service or whatever plan they could think of. it's my favorite food Good to know Funches..... As long as you keep coming in here purely to debate while editing posts, I will continue to post your most deepest secrets. |
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[No she shouldn't have, and no I didn't say that or insinuate that. Where do you get this stuff Funches? well I get this stuff from either one of three of your "Cowboy multi-personalities" which refuse to take responsibility for what the other two "Cowboy personalities" post "Cowboy 1" just claimed that it's the daughter's fault for being choked by her Father...and now "Cowboy 2" is claiming that "Cowboy 1" didn't insinuate that claim ...I can only ponder what "Cowboy 3" thinks No, I wouldn't necassarily approve of such things as supporting castrating men and what not. That was purely said to make a point and show how I felt about people beating on their children. But of course, since you are not here to discuss but to argue and belittle you take it way out into left field again. "Cowboy 1" just claimed that men that choke their daughters should be castrated and now "Cowboy 3" is trying to blame me as to the reason why you "Cowboy 1" would post such a thing..... "Cowboy 1".. I tried to teach you over and over to think before you post...perhaps your refusal to conform to my Will is a result from a lack of spankings your parents gave to "Cowboy 2" But in all seriousness, if a parent is caught to the extreme of choking their child, that child should definitely be taken away. And the parent would have to earn the child back in one way or other, community service or whatever plan they could think of. since Creflo "A Man of God" was accused of choking his daughter are you saying that Creflo's daughter should be taken away? since Creflo "A Man of God" was accused of choking his daughter are you saying that Creflo's daughter should be taken away? If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, that son of a gun is a duck. Actions speak louder then words Funches. Not judging this man, not saying he isn't a man of God. But to be a man of God, one would do as God has told us to do or not do as God has told us not to do. Choking his daughter lays in the area of what God has told us not to do. God in no way has EVER told us to choke our daughters or anything of such. |
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I like cheese Cowboy...that would explain why you've been cutting the cheese i like it alot well you do appear to be full of it it's my favorite food you're into self enemas I see As long as you keep coming in here purely to debate while editing posts, I will continue to post your most deepest secrets. wow..a Christian trying to take away "Free WIll" ...will wonders ever cease but anyway..cool...I'm do the same and not only keep it on topic but also truthful by posting only those deep dark secrets that you yourself actually posted or made reference to about here in the forum are you sure you want to do this? |
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Choking his daughter lays in the area of what God has told us not to do. God in no way has EVER told us to choke our daughters or anything of such. right...God told Moses it's ok to hit children with stones as long as you don't choke them |
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While we are giving away deep dark secrets, I have come to the stark realization that I really do like croissants and I have stopped eating regular toast.
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Choking his daughter lays in the area of what God has told us not to do. God in no way has EVER told us to choke our daughters or anything of such. right...God told Moses it's ok to hit children with stones as long as you don't choke them The two have nothing to do with one another. And God didn't tell anyone to stone "children". God gave instructions for UNRULY children. Those are the children that won't listen to anything any time. Only does what they want to do ever and so on. There is a huge difference. |
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I like cheese Cowboy...that would explain why you've been cutting the cheese i like it alot well you do appear to be full of it it's my favorite food you're into self enemas I see As long as you keep coming in here purely to debate while editing posts, I will continue to post your most deepest secrets. wow..a Christian trying to take away "Free WIll" ...will wonders ever cease but anyway..cool...I'm do the same and not only keep it on topic but also truthful by posting only those deep dark secrets that you yourself actually posted or made reference to about here in the forum are you sure you want to do this? Why do you quote your own statements of liking cheese and all that then speak about it in third person like it wasn't you? I was just quoting your statements. I might have edited them as you did mine, but obviously it's ok to edit posts cause you do it all the time. |
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Choking his daughter lays in the area of what God has told us not to do. God in no way has EVER told us to choke our daughters or anything of such. right...God told Moses it's ok to hit children with stones as long as you don't choke them The two have nothing to do with one another. And God didn't tell anyone to stone "children". God gave instructions for UNRULY children. Those are the children that won't listen to anything any time. Only does what they want to do ever and so on. There is a huge difference. first "Cowboy 1" claim that God didn't tell anyone to stone and in the next breath "Cowboy 3" claim that God gave instructions of Unruly children ....wasn't those instructions to stone them can you post anything without contradicting yourself?.....maybe you have a contradiction addiction... |
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Why do you quote your own statements of liking cheese and all that then speak about it in third person like it wasn't you? I was just quoting your statements. I might have edited them as you did mine, but obviously it's ok to edit posts cause you do it all the time. I've never placed words in your posts that you didn't place in them yourself ... I've never mention anything in any post that I liked cheese ...you lied and wrote that in there yourself what did Jesus say about bearing false witness so sad that a Christian has to lie about cheese |
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