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And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven different books different purposes a million different analogies could be made, that wouldnt really dispute the usefulness or accuracy of a book I doubt one would defuse a bomb using a cookbook either or use a bomb manual to bake a cake neither analogy really lessens the purpose of a manual or a cookbook though MsHarmony...concerning the bible and the term "bomb"... bomb isn't really a bomb...bomb in Hebrew means "false gospel"... in a cookbook "bomb" isn't really a bomb...the Hebrew word for bomb is "falling cake" ... that was just a sample of what you guys constantly do with the english bible ...everytime a word you do not like is there..then you try to change the meaning of the word by running to Satan's Dictionary or claim that the word means something else in Hebrew by running to one of those Satan websites the passage clearly used the word "Hate" ...but Christian somehow "dyslexically" view it as the term for Love perhaps this is what happens psychologically to people when they are commanded to love everyone...even their enemies...a form of "Stockholm Syndrome" and there is no longer a line of distinction between the concepts of love and hate I love you so much that I hate you yes, context the new enemy of the intelligent anti religious,,, the enemy isnt understanding context either, its actually a relevant part of reading comprehension that they teach in elementary school,,,, the christian denominations have only slight variances, they still use the same bible and the individual reading it still perceives it in their own way,, which may be different than billions of others readers or the same ,,,, thats the nature of large numbers of people reading the same book,,, kind of like the game 'telephone',, and like the game, some people are bound to be 'hearing it right',,,, |
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And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven different books different purposes a million different analogies could be made, that wouldnt really dispute the usefulness or accuracy of a book I doubt one would defuse a bomb using a cookbook either or use a bomb manual to bake a cake neither analogy really lessens the purpose of a manual or a cookbook though MsHarmony...concerning the bible and the term "bomb"... bomb isn't really a bomb...bomb in Hebrew means "false gospel"... in a cookbook "bomb" isn't really a bomb...the Hebrew word for bomb is "falling cake" ... that was just a sample of what you guys constantly do with the english bible ...everytime a word you do not like is there..then you try to change the meaning of the word by running to Satan's Dictionary or claim that the word means something else in Hebrew by running to one of those Satan websites the passage clearly used the word "Hate" ...but Christian somehow "dyslexically" view it as the term for Love perhaps this is what happens psychologically to people when they are commanded to love everyone...even their enemies...a form of "Stockholm Syndrome" and there is no longer a line of distinction between the concepts of love and hate I love you so much that I hate you yes, context the new enemy of the intelligent anti religious,,, the enemy isnt understanding context either, its actually a relevant part of reading comprehension that they teach in elementary school,,,, the christian denominations have only slight variances, they still use the same bible and the individual reading it still perceives it in their own way,, which may be different than billions of others readers or the same ,,,, thats the nature of large numbers of people reading the same book,,, kind of like the game 'telephone',, and like the game, some people are bound to be 'hearing it right',,,, |
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some christians are taught that satan is actually a hebrew word for opponent and that satan actually was a king of babylon.
Then you have that satan is Lucifer who God tossed from heaven and walks the earth. Then you have satan is this Pagan looking horned God that runs hell. |
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And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven different books different purposes a million different analogies could be made, that wouldnt really dispute the usefulness or accuracy of a book I doubt one would defuse a bomb using a cookbook either or use a bomb manual to bake a cake neither analogy really lessens the purpose of a manual or a cookbook though MsHarmony...concerning the bible and the term "bomb"... bomb isn't really a bomb...bomb in Hebrew means "false gospel"... in a cookbook "bomb" isn't really a bomb...the Hebrew word for bomb is "falling cake" ... that was just a sample of what you guys constantly do with the english bible ...everytime a word you do not like is there..then you try to change the meaning of the word by running to Satan's Dictionary or claim that the word means something else in Hebrew by running to one of those Satan websites the passage clearly used the word "Hate" ...but Christian somehow "dyslexically" view it as the term for Love perhaps this is what happens psychologically to people when they are commanded to love everyone...even their enemies...a form of "Stockholm Syndrome" and there is no longer a line of distinction between the concepts of love and hate I love you so much that I hate you yes, context the new enemy of the intelligent anti religious,,, the enemy isnt understanding context either, its actually a relevant part of reading comprehension that they teach in elementary school,,,, the christian denominations have only slight variances, they still use the same bible and the individual reading it still perceives it in their own way,, which may be different than billions of others readers or the same ,,,, thats the nature of large numbers of people reading the same book,,, kind of like the game 'telephone',, and like the game, some people are bound to be 'hearing it right',,,, I am not speaking personal and individual PASTORAL interpretations IM speaking about the universally recognized DOCTRINES of the different denominations,,, |
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I am not speaking personal and individual PASTORAL interpretations IM speaking about the universally recognized DOCTRINES of the different denominations,,, ------------------------------------------------------------------ But because he has his own interpretations the people in the pews are gonna assume it's true,cause he is a man of God preaching his interpretations. |
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I am not speaking personal and individual PASTORAL interpretations IM speaking about the universally recognized DOCTRINES of the different denominations,,, ------------------------------------------------------------------ But because he has his own interpretations the people in the pews are gonna assume it's true,cause he is a man of God preaching his interpretations. yes , and there are math teachers who dont teach math correctly but what is recognized as 'math' doesnt change in any universal way we can find exceptions to just about everything that would make general discussions pretty obsolete,,, |
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And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Who ever said anything about a mistranslation? you were one of those that said this ...you either have short term memory or "selective memory" ...I vote for the latter POSTED BY COWBOY:
Things loose it's true meaning when translated time after time. People and what they "think" was ment, will be altered. so I ask again....why would you base your immortal soul on such a book that even you claim to have doubts regarding it's accuracy.... and then have the unmitigated gall to preach it to others as if it was accurate |
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I am not speaking personal and individual PASTORAL interpretations IM speaking about the universally recognized DOCTRINES of the different denominations,,, ------------------------------------------------------------------ But because he has his own interpretations the people in the pews are gonna assume it's true,cause he is a man of God preaching his interpretations. yes , and there are math teachers who dont teach math correctly but what is recognized as 'math' doesnt change in any universal way we can find exceptions to just about everything that would make general discussions pretty obsolete,,, |
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I am not speaking personal and individual PASTORAL interpretations IM speaking about the universally recognized DOCTRINES of the different denominations,,, ------------------------------------------------------------------ But because he has his own interpretations the people in the pews are gonna assume it's true,cause he is a man of God preaching his interpretations. yes , and there are math teachers who dont teach math correctly but what is recognized as 'math' doesnt change in any universal way we can find exceptions to just about everything that would make general discussions pretty obsolete,,, Im not speaking about teaching math in DIFFERENT Way, I am speaking about teachers who stray from recognized formulas and processes to teach INCORRECTLY based upon what they wrongly believe will work it happens, but it is as much the exception as the above scenarios,,, |
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I am not speaking personal and individual PASTORAL interpretations IM speaking about the universally recognized DOCTRINES of the different denominations,,, ------------------------------------------------------------------ But because he has his own interpretations the people in the pews are gonna assume it's true,cause he is a man of God preaching his interpretations. yes , and there are math teachers who dont teach math correctly but what is recognized as 'math' doesnt change in any universal way we can find exceptions to just about everything that would make general discussions pretty obsolete,,, Im not speaking about teaching math in DIFFERENT Way, I am speaking about teachers who stray from recognized formulas and processes to teach INCORRECTLY based upon what they wrongly believe will work it happens, but it is as much the exception as the above scenarios,,, 
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And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Who ever said anything about a mistranslation? you were one of those that said this ...you either have short term memory or "selective memory" ...I vote for the latter POSTED BY COWBOY:
Things loose it's true meaning when translated time after time. People and what they "think" was ment, will be altered. so I ask again....why would you base your immortal soul on such a book that even you claim to have doubts regarding it's accuracy.... and then have the unmitigated gall to preach it to others as if it was accurate I don't base my immortal soul on such a book that even I claim to have doubts regarding it's accuracy. I base my immortal soul on Jesus Christ, based on a personal walk with my God and savior. And I don't preach or even discuss a specific translation of the scriptures, I teach the world of God. It's called cross referencing. I don't use just one translation. I start with KJV, then when something doesn't seem right, or there seems to be a "contradiction", I cross reference between different interpretations and pray about it. It is not God's duity, or job, to hand us this knowledge. It is our job to search for the truth. God is not responsible, we are responsible for ourselves. |
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I am not speaking personal and individual PASTORAL interpretations IM speaking about the universally recognized DOCTRINES of the different denominations,,, ------------------------------------------------------------------ But because he has his own interpretations the people in the pews are gonna assume it's true,cause he is a man of God preaching his interpretations. yes , and there are math teachers who dont teach math correctly but what is recognized as 'math' doesnt change in any universal way we can find exceptions to just about everything that would make general discussions pretty obsolete,,, MsHarmony....do the Math teachers claim that the math in the books are not accurate...or that the Math Formulas has been mis-translated from Hebrew.... do all the Math teachers get different answers when each of them do the Math problems do they need Faith to believe in Math this is why your analogy to compare those that teach math to those that preach the bible is inaccurate |
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And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Who ever said anything about a mistranslation? you were one of those that said this ...you either have short term memory or "selective memory" ...I vote for the latter POSTED BY COWBOY:
Things loose it's true meaning when translated time after time. People and what they "think" was ment, will be altered. so I ask again....why would you base your immortal soul on such a book that even you claim to have doubts regarding it's accuracy.... and then have the unmitigated gall to preach it to others as if it was accurate I don't base my immortal soul on such a book that even I claim to have doubts regarding it's accuracy. I base my immortal soul on Jesus Christ, based on a personal walk with my God and savior. And I don't preach or even discuss a specific translation of the scriptures, I teach the world of God. It's called cross referencing. I don't use just one translation. I start with KJV, then when something doesn't seem right, or there seems to be a "contradiction", I cross reference between different interpretations and pray about it. It is not God's duity, or job, to hand us this knowledge. It is our job to search for the truth. God is not responsible, we are responsible for ourselves. all you know about Jesus is what you read in that book that you claim is mis-translated as for your personal walk with Jesus...since the bible according to you is mis-translated then you wouldn't have a clue if it was Jesus or not...it more likely either Satan or a delusion since you have admitted to sinning as Jesus stood next to you ...what type of Christian intentionally sins as their savior is looking at them ...sounds religiously kinky this is why to based ones after-life on a mis-translated book or adhere their soul to a character in one of these mis-translated books is either due to peer pressure or not being all that concern about their soul |
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And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Who ever said anything about a mistranslation? you were one of those that said this ...you either have short term memory or "selective memory" ...I vote for the latter POSTED BY COWBOY:
Things loose it's true meaning when translated time after time. People and what they "think" was ment, will be altered. so I ask again....why would you base your immortal soul on such a book that even you claim to have doubts regarding it's accuracy.... and then have the unmitigated gall to preach it to others as if it was accurate I don't base my immortal soul on such a book that even I claim to have doubts regarding it's accuracy. I base my immortal soul on Jesus Christ, based on a personal walk with my God and savior. And I don't preach or even discuss a specific translation of the scriptures, I teach the world of God. It's called cross referencing. I don't use just one translation. I start with KJV, then when something doesn't seem right, or there seems to be a "contradiction", I cross reference between different interpretations and pray about it. It is not God's duity, or job, to hand us this knowledge. It is our job to search for the truth. God is not responsible, we are responsible for ourselves. all you know about Jesus is what you read in that book that you claim is mis-translated as for your personal walk with Jesus...since the bible according to you is mis-translated then you wouldn't have a clue if it was Jesus or not...it more likely either Satan or a delusion since you have admitted to sinning as Jesus stood next to you ...what type of Christian intentionally sins as their savior is looking at them ...sounds religiously kinky this is why to based ones after-life on a mis-translated book or adhere their soul to a character in one of these mis-translated books is either due to peer pressure or not being all that concern about their soul all you know about Jesus is what you read in that book that you claim is mis-translated Ah, but you are incorrect. For one, the walk with Jesus is a personal walk. Not from reading anything out of a book, or anything besides Jesus. Someone could know Jesus and not have ever read the bible, or even possibly have ever even just seen the bible. The scriptures are purely knowledge. Jesus is not in that book. And also, this is why I cross referance between multiple different translations, to see exactly what it's talking about. what type of Christian intentionally sins as their savior is looking at them A weak person. A person that chooses to do what pleases him specifically. A person that made/makes mistakes. A person that then leans on his savior for strength not to continue in that sin he once did. this is why to based ones after-life on a mis-translated book or adhere their soul to a character in one of these mis-translated books is either due to peer pressure or not being all that concern about their soul Again, I base nothing after a book. I base my eternal soul on Jesus, which is only eternal through him. And has absolutely nothing to do with "peer-pressure". Again, the walk with Jesus is a personal walk. It's not a walk with Jesus, your uncle, your friend, your dad, ect. It's a walk with just you and Jesus. |
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Edited by
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well why do people claim the serpant in the adam and eve story was satan when lucifer wasn't cast out of heaven yet?
I'm still waiting for an answer for this.Let me guess theres a trinity for Lucifer also. |
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well why do people claim the serpant in the adam and eve story was satan when lucifer wasn't cast out of heaven yet? I'm still waiting for an answer for this.Let me guess theres a trinity for Lucifer also. Just because he wasn't cast from Heaven yet, doesn't mean he couldn't walk the Earth. What do the two have to do with one another? |
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well why do people claim the serpant in the adam and eve story was satan when lucifer wasn't cast out of heaven yet? I'm still waiting for an answer for this.Let me guess theres a trinity for Lucifer also. Just because he wasn't cast from Heaven yet, doesn't mean he couldn't walk the Earth. What do the two have to do with one another? |
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I am not speaking personal and individual PASTORAL interpretations IM speaking about the universally recognized DOCTRINES of the different denominations,,, ------------------------------------------------------------------ But because he has his own interpretations the people in the pews are gonna assume it's true,cause he is a man of God preaching his interpretations. yes , and there are math teachers who dont teach math correctly but what is recognized as 'math' doesnt change in any universal way we can find exceptions to just about everything that would make general discussions pretty obsolete,,, MsHarmony....do the Math teachers claim that the math in the books are not accurate...or that the Math Formulas has been mis-translated from Hebrew.... do all the Math teachers get different answers when each of them do the Math problems do they need Faith to believe in Math this is why your analogy to compare those that teach math to those that preach the bible is inaccurate numbers are much less complex, and yet not all teachers teach math CORRECTLY the analogy is significant BECAUSE of the fact that if something as straightforwards as math can have instructors who dont get it something as COMPLEX as a translation from one language and the context of the language 2000 years ago, is certain to likewise have discrepancies in how some 'instructors' relay it to others,,,m |
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I think this thread is not about to be exhausted, it will definately linger for some good time! |
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Edited by
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