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Topic: 50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 06/09/12 10:40 AM
What are you talking about? Nobody used any other translation but the KJV right now. But you can not take just one verse out of the rest and know what's it's meaning. Especially with it being a translation and the time frame it was originally written, the way they spoke, the culture, ect. You have use all the verses to understand one. Cowboy...now you understand why it's a Jewish religion meant for the Jews

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 06/09/12 10:45 AM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 06/09/12 10:45 AM
What are you talking about? Nobody used any other translation but the KJV right now. But you can not take just one verse out of the rest and know what's it's meaning. Especially with it being a translation and the time frame it was originally written, the way they spoke, the culture, ect. You have use all the verses to understand one. Cowboy...now you understand why it's a Jewish religion meant for the Jews What are you talking about? So things written in spanish, history, science, ect is only knowledge for people that speak spanish? Things written in Chineese, history, science, ect is only knowledge for people that speak Chineese? And it's not a "religion" ment for anyone. It's not a "religion", it's the God honest truth. Just again, people whom choose not to believe place it in the "religion" category. God isn't about religion, God is about relationship. He wants a relationship with people, not a religion.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 06/09/12 10:58 AM
What are you talking about? So things written in spanish, history, science, ect is only knowledge for people that speak spanish? Things written in Chineese, history, science, ect is only knowledge for people that speak Chineese? if medical books was mis-translated then wouldn't people be fools to rely on them ...why would the bible be any different but anyway this all boils down to one question THE QUESTION do you believe the Hebrew Bible to be 100 percent accurate?

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sat 06/09/12 11:03 AM Edited by RKISIT on Sat 06/09/12 12:00 PM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Yep the bible is more Greek influence of the afterlife not Ancient hebrew traditions.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 06/09/12 11:13 AM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Yep the bible is more Greek influence of the afterlife not Ancient hebrew tradtions. imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sat 06/09/12 11:17 AM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Yep the bible is more Greek influence of the afterlife not Ancient hebrew tradtions. imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 06/09/12 11:47 AM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Yep the bible is more Greek influence of the afterlife not Ancient hebrew tradtions. imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven different books different purposes a million different analogies could be made, that wouldnt really dispute the usefulness or accuracy of a book I doubt one would defuse a bomb using a cookbook either or use a bomb manual to bake a cake neither analogy really lessens the purpose of a manual or a cookbook though

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sat 06/09/12 12:01 PM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Yep the bible is more Greek influence of the afterlife not Ancient hebrew tradtions. imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven different books different purposes a million different analogies could be made, that wouldnt really dispute the usefulness or accuracy of a book I doubt one would defuse a bomb using a cookbook either or use a bomb manual to bake a cake neither analogy really lessens the purpose of a manual or a cookbook though I believe he used a metaphor not to be takin literally

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 06/09/12 12:03 PM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Yep the bible is more Greek influence of the afterlife not Ancient hebrew tradtions. imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven different books different purposes a million different analogies could be made, that wouldnt really dispute the usefulness or accuracy of a book I doubt one would defuse a bomb using a cookbook either or use a bomb manual to bake a cake neither analogy really lessens the purpose of a manual or a cookbook though I believe he used a metaphor not to be takin literally lets hope so,,sometimes he really reaches,,,,,

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sat 06/09/12 01:01 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 06/09/12 01:02 PM
The word "hate" has a very clear meaning. yes the word "hate" does have a very clear meaning. But that does not mean there wasn't a closer word from the original language, just was "close". Hate - to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion Aversion - a strong feeling of dislike, opposition, repugnance, or antipathy (usually followed by to ): a strong aversion to snakes and spiders. And again, with keeping the verse in context, Jesus was saying to put him first before the other's. If you're favorite color is say blue. You then hate all the other colors, you don't "like" them eg., dislike. Or you like them less then blue, thus again you hate the other colors in comparison to blue. That is ridiculous Cowboy. Ridiculous. I would never have a strong dislike of my parents or hate them or abandon them for some cult. That is what cult leaders try to get young people to do. Typical cult tactics is to get young people to abandon and disown their parents and only be devoted and obedient to the cult leader. I love all the colors by the way. I don't hate any of them even if I do have a favorite. IFF Jesus ever said that, (if Jesus even existed) then he was forming a cult.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sat 06/09/12 01:04 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 06/09/12 01:05 PM
I believe he used a metaphor not to be takin literally The problem with believers is that sometimes they think they should take everything in the Bible literally and that in order to be saved or be a good Christian or Muslim or Jew, they have to believe everything in their chosen "good book" as if it is true or to be taken literally. Take it all with a grain of salt. Just be good people and live in peace and love. Don't hate your parents. And some add some tequila to that salt.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 06/09/12 01:13 PM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Yep the bible is more Greek influence of the afterlife not Ancient hebrew tradtions. imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven different books different purposes a million different analogies could be made, that wouldnt really dispute the usefulness or accuracy of a book I doubt one would defuse a bomb using a cookbook either or use a bomb manual to bake a cake neither analogy really lessens the purpose of a manual or a cookbook though MsHarmony...concerning the bible and the term "bomb"... bomb isn't really a bomb...bomb in Hebrew means "false gospel"... in a cookbook "bomb" isn't really a bomb...the Hebrew word for bomb is "falling cake" ... that was just a sample of what you guys constantly do with the english bible ...everytime a word you do not like is there..then you try to change the meaning of the word by running to Satan's Dictionary or claim that the word means something else in Hebrew by running to one of those Satan websites the passage clearly used the word "Hate" ...but Christian somehow "dyslexically" view it as the term for Love perhaps this is what happens psychologically to people when they are commanded to love everyone...even their enemies...a form of "Stockholm Syndrome" and there is no longer a line of distinction between the concepts of love and hate I love you so much that I hate you

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 06/09/12 02:54 PM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Who ever said anything about a mistranslation?

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sat 06/09/12 03:44 PM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Who ever said anything about a mistranslation? well why do people claim the serpant in the adam and eve story was satan when lucifer wasn't cast out of heaven yet?

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sat 06/09/12 03:54 PM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Yep the bible is more Greek influence of the afterlife not Ancient hebrew tradtions. imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven different books different purposes a million different analogies could be made, that wouldnt really dispute the usefulness or accuracy of a book I doubt one would defuse a bomb using a cookbook either or use a bomb manual to bake a cake neither analogy really lessens the purpose of a manual or a cookbook though MsHarmony...concerning the bible and the term "bomb"... bomb isn't really a bomb...bomb in Hebrew means "false gospel"... in a cookbook "bomb" isn't really a bomb...the Hebrew word for bomb is "falling cake" ... that was just a sample of what you guys constantly do with the english bible ...everytime a word you do not like is there..then you try to change the meaning of the word by running to Satan's Dictionary or claim that the word means something else in Hebrew by running to one of those Satan websites the passage clearly used the word "Hate" ...but Christian somehow "dyslexically" view it as the term for Love perhaps this is what happens psychologically to people when they are commanded to love everyone...even their enemies...a form of "Stockholm Syndrome" and there is no longer a line of distinction between the concepts of love and hate I love you so much that I hate you You can't forget the infamous take another verse from another gospel and use it to try and make the misinterpreted verse legit.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 06/09/12 04:04 PM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Yep the bible is more Greek influence of the afterlife not Ancient hebrew tradtions. imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven different books different purposes a million different analogies could be made, that wouldnt really dispute the usefulness or accuracy of a book I doubt one would defuse a bomb using a cookbook either or use a bomb manual to bake a cake neither analogy really lessens the purpose of a manual or a cookbook though MsHarmony...concerning the bible and the term "bomb"... bomb isn't really a bomb...bomb in Hebrew means "false gospel"... in a cookbook "bomb" isn't really a bomb...the Hebrew word for bomb is "falling cake" ... that was just a sample of what you guys constantly do with the english bible ...everytime a word you do not like is there..then you try to change the meaning of the word by running to Satan's Dictionary or claim that the word means something else in Hebrew by running to one of those Satan websites the passage clearly used the word "Hate" ...but Christian somehow "dyslexically" view it as the term for Love perhaps this is what happens psychologically to people when they are commanded to love everyone...even their enemies...a form of "Stockholm Syndrome" and there is no longer a line of distinction between the concepts of love and hate I love you so much that I hate you You can't forget the infamous take another verse from another gospel and use it to try and make the misinterpreted verse legit. yes, context the new enemy of the intelligent anti religious,,,

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sat 06/09/12 04:21 PM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Yep the bible is more Greek influence of the afterlife not Ancient hebrew tradtions. imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven different books different purposes a million different analogies could be made, that wouldnt really dispute the usefulness or accuracy of a book I doubt one would defuse a bomb using a cookbook either or use a bomb manual to bake a cake neither analogy really lessens the purpose of a manual or a cookbook though MsHarmony...concerning the bible and the term "bomb"... bomb isn't really a bomb...bomb in Hebrew means "false gospel"... in a cookbook "bomb" isn't really a bomb...the Hebrew word for bomb is "falling cake" ... that was just a sample of what you guys constantly do with the english bible ...everytime a word you do not like is there..then you try to change the meaning of the word by running to Satan's Dictionary or claim that the word means something else in Hebrew by running to one of those Satan websites the passage clearly used the word "Hate" ...but Christian somehow "dyslexically" view it as the term for Love perhaps this is what happens psychologically to people when they are commanded to love everyone...even their enemies...a form of "Stockholm Syndrome" and there is no longer a line of distinction between the concepts of love and hate I love you so much that I hate you You can't forget the infamous take another verse from another gospel and use it to try and make the misinterpreted verse legit. yes, context the new enemy of the intelligent anti religious,,, haha believers do it too nice try when you question the verse they post they start posting more from a different gospel.The enemy isn't the nonbelievers the enemy is fideism.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 06/09/12 04:24 PM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Yep the bible is more Greek influence of the afterlife not Ancient hebrew tradtions. imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven different books different purposes a million different analogies could be made, that wouldnt really dispute the usefulness or accuracy of a book I doubt one would defuse a bomb using a cookbook either or use a bomb manual to bake a cake neither analogy really lessens the purpose of a manual or a cookbook though MsHarmony...concerning the bible and the term "bomb"... bomb isn't really a bomb...bomb in Hebrew means "false gospel"... in a cookbook "bomb" isn't really a bomb...the Hebrew word for bomb is "falling cake" ... that was just a sample of what you guys constantly do with the english bible ...everytime a word you do not like is there..then you try to change the meaning of the word by running to Satan's Dictionary or claim that the word means something else in Hebrew by running to one of those Satan websites the passage clearly used the word "Hate" ...but Christian somehow "dyslexically" view it as the term for Love perhaps this is what happens psychologically to people when they are commanded to love everyone...even their enemies...a form of "Stockholm Syndrome" and there is no longer a line of distinction between the concepts of love and hate I love you so much that I hate you You can't forget the infamous take another verse from another gospel and use it to try and make the misinterpreted verse legit. yes, context the new enemy of the intelligent anti religious,,, haha believers do it too nice try when you question the verse they post they start posting more from a different gospel.The enemy isn't the nonbelievers the enemy is fideism. the enemy isnt understanding context either, its actually a relevant part of reading comprehension that they teach in elementary school,,,,

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sat 06/09/12 04:38 PM
And understanding the words they use and the meaning of those words are two different things. Many words can be used in many ways. Cowboy...then learn Hebrew...why would you based your after-life on a book of mis-translations Yep the bible is more Greek influence of the afterlife not Ancient hebrew tradtions. imagine trying to disfuse a bomb using the bible..... ok first let's unhook the green wire.... but green doesn't mean the color green it might mean green with envy ok then let's find the wire that appears to represent Jealousy forget that....hand me that Jewish bible before we blow our apses into Heaven different books different purposes a million different analogies could be made, that wouldnt really dispute the usefulness or accuracy of a book I doubt one would defuse a bomb using a cookbook either or use a bomb manual to bake a cake neither analogy really lessens the purpose of a manual or a cookbook though MsHarmony...concerning the bible and the term "bomb"... bomb isn't really a bomb...bomb in Hebrew means "false gospel"... in a cookbook "bomb" isn't really a bomb...the Hebrew word for bomb is "falling cake" ... that was just a sample of what you guys constantly do with the english bible ...everytime a word you do not like is there..then you try to change the meaning of the word by running to Satan's Dictionary or claim that the word means something else in Hebrew by running to one of those Satan websites the passage clearly used the word "Hate" ...but Christian somehow "dyslexically" view it as the term for Love perhaps this is what happens psychologically to people when they are commanded to love everyone...even their enemies...a form of "Stockholm Syndrome" and there is no longer a line of distinction between the concepts of love and hate I love you so much that I hate you You can't forget the infamous take another verse from another gospel and use it to try and make the misinterpreted verse legit. yes, context the new enemy of the intelligent anti religious,,, haha believers do it too nice try when you question the verse they post they start posting more from a different gospel.The enemy isn't the nonbelievers the enemy is fideism. the enemy isnt understanding context either, its actually a relevant part of reading comprehension that they teach in elementary school,,,, well the bible contradicts itself just read how Luke and Matthew do it to each other taking a vesrse out of context is meaningless cause to many contradictions to even care.And the bible is kind of funny to comprehend it you must first find what denomination you feel comfortable with in their interpretation.So are you actually comprehending it then?