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Topic: 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory
Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 04/07/12 07:08 AM
You are not keeping up as usual con..not linked to 911

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sat 04/07/12 07:18 AM
You are not keeping up as usual con..not linked to 911 so how come you brought it up in connection with 9/11? Or was it just another Red Herring,sort of an Obfuscation?

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 04/07/12 07:20 AM
As I have said on other occasions check out the previous postings and you will see

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sat 04/07/12 07:22 AM
As I have said on other occasions check out the previous postings and you will see well,Red Herring then!

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 04/07/12 07:24 AM
You and I agree on very little so lets agree to disagree..OK

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Sat 04/07/12 08:21 AM
That second Photo...where are all the engineers to explain that one. They can apply some reverse 911 engineering to that one If you took the time to read the threads you would find explanations to everything on this topic. But since actual knowledge isn't on your agenda ... ignorance is bliss. Ancient civilizations didn't understand the science either so they made up conspiracy stories too. And yet they are going to ignore the fact that a demolition is was impossible according to physics. But hey what do you expect from conspiracy theorists? Interviewer: International researchers have found traces of explosives among the World Trade Center rubble. A new scientific article concludes that impacts from the two hijacked aircraft did not cause the collapses in 2001. We turn our attention to 9/11: the major attack in New York. Apparently the two airplane impacts did not cause the towers to collapse, according to a newly published scientific article. Researchers found nano-thermite explosive in the rubble, that cannot have come from the planes. They believe several tonnes of explosives were placed in the buildings in advance. Niels Harrit, you and eight other researchers conclude in this article, that it was nano-thermite that caused these buildings to collapse. What is nano-thermite? Niels Harrit: We found nano-thermite in the rubble. We are not saying only nano-thermite was used. Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 °C. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron. Nanotechnology makes things smaller. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel. Interviewer: I Googled nano-thermite, and not much has been written about it. Is it a widely known scientific substance? Or is it so new that other scientists are hardly aware of it? Harrit: It is a collective name for substances with high levels of energy. If civilian researchers (like myself) are not familiar with it, it is probably because they do not do much work with explosives. As for military scientists, you would have to ask them. I do not know how familiar they are with nanotechnology. Interviewer: So you found this substance in the WTC, why do you think it caused the collapses? Harrit: Well, it's an explosive. Why else would it be there? http://bigeye.com/nanothermite.htm wonder how long after the refutation of the Explosives-Theory it would take until the Nano-Thermite would surface! As improbable as the Demolition-With-Explosives-Theory! A bit more,even! Inform yourself about the way Thermite has to be applied to be effective! And the same applies again,Time-Element,when did they apply thousands of pounds of that Stuff,which works best on Horizontal Surfaces? How did they hide the work? Would create a similar mess as when you have to apply Cutting Charges! I say its more improbable Mr Conrad that people who could not fly cessnas flew jumbo jets. Its more improbable that one actualy got through the air space over washington. Inform yourself in what it takes to fly a jumbo jet No its not more probably than explosives with no sound. Sorry.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sat 04/07/12 09:15 AM
Interviewer: You have been working on this for several years, because it didn't make sense to you. Harrit: Yes, over two years actually. It all started when I saw the collapse of Building 7, the third skyscraper. It collapsed seven hours after the twin towers. And there were only two airplanes. When you see a 47-storey building, 186 m tall, collapse in 6.5 seconds, and you are a scientist, you think "What?!" I had to watch it again and again. I hit the button 10 times, and my jaw dropped lower and lower. Firstly, I had never heard of that building before. And there was no visible reason why it should collapse in that way, straight down, in 6.5 seconds. I have had no rest since that day. http://bigeye.com/nanothermite.htm

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 04/07/12 09:29 AM Edited by Optomistic69 on Sat 04/07/12 09:32 AM
Interviewer: You have been working on this for several years, because it didn't make sense to you. Harrit: Yes, over two years actually. It all started when I saw the collapse of Building 7, the third skyscraper. It collapsed seven hours after the twin towers. And there were only two airplanes. When you see a 47-storey building, 186 m tall, collapse in 6.5 seconds, and you are a scientist, you think "What?!" I had to watch it again and again. I hit the button 10 times, and my jaw dropped lower and lower. Firstly, I had never heard of that building before. And there was no visible reason why it should collapse in that way, straight down, in 6.5 seconds. I have had no rest since that day. http://bigeye.com/nanothermite.htm Comparing WTC7 with this Picture Takes some explaining. Two suspect small fires on two floors...those of the SEC files being destroyed No Collapse burned for at least 5 hours.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sat 04/07/12 09:48 AM
That second Photo...where are all the engineers to explain that one. They can apply some reverse 911 engineering to that one If you took the time to read the threads you would find explanations to everything on this topic. But since actual knowledge isn't on your agenda ... ignorance is bliss. Ancient civilizations didn't understand the science either so they made up conspiracy stories too. And yet they are going to ignore the fact that a demolition is was impossible according to physics. But hey what do you expect from conspiracy theorists? Interviewer: International researchers have found traces of explosives among the World Trade Center rubble. A new scientific article concludes that impacts from the two hijacked aircraft did not cause the collapses in 2001. We turn our attention to 9/11: the major attack in New York. Apparently the two airplane impacts did not cause the towers to collapse, according to a newly published scientific article. Researchers found nano-thermite explosive in the rubble, that cannot have come from the planes. They believe several tonnes of explosives were placed in the buildings in advance. Niels Harrit, you and eight other researchers conclude in this article, that it was nano-thermite that caused these buildings to collapse. What is nano-thermite? Niels Harrit: We found nano-thermite in the rubble. We are not saying only nano-thermite was used. Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 °C. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron. Nanotechnology makes things smaller. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel. Interviewer: I Googled nano-thermite, and not much has been written about it. Is it a widely known scientific substance? Or is it so new that other scientists are hardly aware of it? Harrit: It is a collective name for substances with high levels of energy. If civilian researchers (like myself) are not familiar with it, it is probably because they do not do much work with explosives. As for military scientists, you would have to ask them. I do not know how familiar they are with nanotechnology. Interviewer: So you found this substance in the WTC, why do you think it caused the collapses? Harrit: Well, it's an explosive. Why else would it be there? http://bigeye.com/nanothermite.htm wonder how long after the refutation of the Explosives-Theory it would take until the Nano-Thermite would surface! As improbable as the Demolition-With-Explosives-Theory! A bit more,even! Inform yourself about the way Thermite has to be applied to be effective! And the same applies again,Time-Element,when did they apply thousands of pounds of that Stuff,which works best on Horizontal Surfaces? How did they hide the work? Would create a similar mess as when you have to apply Cutting Charges! I say its more improbable Mr Conrad that people who could not fly cessnas flew jumbo jets. Its more improbable that one actualy got through the air space over washington. Inform yourself in what it takes to fly a jumbo jet Actually, it's the other way around. I have been flying planes for thirty years. Flying a jumbo jet is much easier than flying a Cessna. They are more stable and less affected by wind. As I have pointed out several times, it is the landing that takes training. Anyone can point an aircraft already in the air. You constantly post the same debunked crap over and over. Why don't you focus your conspiracy nonsense on who planned the attack? Maybe all the hijacker's were illegitimate sons of George Bush Sr.? Maybe they were misshapen clones of George Jr. provided in exchange to aliens for half our jalapeno crop? Repeating debunked theories that defy physics does not make you look well informed.

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 04/07/12 10:07 AM
Metalwing...any ideas on the WTC7 collapse and the the 5 hours burning non-collapse?

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sat 04/07/12 10:53 AM
Metalwing...any ideas on the WTC7 collapse and the the 5 hours burning non-collapse? I posted the computer models, analysis, and associated websites where the ASCE Structural Division gave the FMA.(Failure mode analysis). The "story" of how the buildings fell was not provided by any government agency as all these 9/11 conspirators would have everyone believe. The agencies, like FEMA, who were involved were just lookers on as the consultants published the work and it was peer reviewed by the ASCE Structural Branch. The degree to which the matter was analyzed would boggle the mind. The degree of technical expertise involved and the magnitude of calculations are not within the realm of non engineers. An example: http://ascelibrary.org/sto/resource/1/jsendh/v137/i9/p869_s1?view=fulltext&bypassSSO=1

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 04/07/12 10:55 AM Edited by Optomistic69 on Sat 04/07/12 10:57 AM
Metalwing...any ideas on the WTC7 collapse and the the 5 hours burning non-collapse? I posted the computer models, analysis, and associated websites where the ASCE Structural Division gave the FMA.(Failure mode analysis). The "story" of how the buildings fell was not provided by any government agency as all these 9/11 conspirators would have everyone believe. The agencies, like FEMA, who were involved were just lookers on as the consultants published the work and it was peer reviewed by the ASCE Structural Branch. The degree to which the matter was analyzed would boggle the mind. The degree of technical expertise involved and the magnitude of calculations are not within the realm of non engineers. An example: http://ascelibrary.org/sto/resource/1/jsendh/v137/i9/p869_s1?view=fulltext&bypassSSO=1 And in your own opinion? In Lay mans Terms or plain English

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sat 04/07/12 11:05 AM
That second Photo...where are all the engineers to explain that one. They can apply some reverse 911 engineering to that one If you took the time to read the threads you would find explanations to everything on this topic. But since actual knowledge isn't on your agenda ... ignorance is bliss. Ancient civilizations didn't understand the science either so they made up conspiracy stories too. And yet they are going to ignore the fact that a demolition is was impossible according to physics. But hey what do you expect from conspiracy theorists? Interviewer: International researchers have found traces of explosives among the World Trade Center rubble. A new scientific article concludes that impacts from the two hijacked aircraft did not cause the collapses in 2001. We turn our attention to 9/11: the major attack in New York. Apparently the two airplane impacts did not cause the towers to collapse, according to a newly published scientific article. Researchers found nano-thermite explosive in the rubble, that cannot have come from the planes. They believe several tonnes of explosives were placed in the buildings in advance. Niels Harrit, you and eight other researchers conclude in this article, that it was nano-thermite that caused these buildings to collapse. What is nano-thermite? Niels Harrit: We found nano-thermite in the rubble. We are not saying only nano-thermite was used. Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 °C. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron. Nanotechnology makes things smaller. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel. Interviewer: I Googled nano-thermite, and not much has been written about it. Is it a widely known scientific substance? Or is it so new that other scientists are hardly aware of it? Harrit: It is a collective name for substances with high levels of energy. If civilian researchers (like myself) are not familiar with it, it is probably because they do not do much work with explosives. As for military scientists, you would have to ask them. I do not know how familiar they are with nanotechnology. Interviewer: So you found this substance in the WTC, why do you think it caused the collapses? Harrit: Well, it's an explosive. Why else would it be there? http://bigeye.com/nanothermite.htm wonder how long after the refutation of the Explosives-Theory it would take until the Nano-Thermite would surface! As improbable as the Demolition-With-Explosives-Theory! A bit more,even! Inform yourself about the way Thermite has to be applied to be effective! And the same applies again,Time-Element,when did they apply thousands of pounds of that Stuff,which works best on Horizontal Surfaces? How did they hide the work? Would create a similar mess as when you have to apply Cutting Charges! I say its more improbable Mr Conrad that people who could not fly cessnas flew jumbo jets. Its more improbable that one actualy got through the air space over washington. Inform yourself in what it takes to fly a jumbo jet very little actually,once it is in the Air,so little enough that you could do with Simulator-Training,according to my Sources in Aviation!

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sat 04/07/12 12:11 PM
Metalwing...any ideas on the WTC7 collapse and the the 5 hours burning non-collapse? I posted the computer models, analysis, and associated websites where the ASCE Structural Division gave the FMA.(Failure mode analysis). The "story" of how the buildings fell was not provided by any government agency as all these 9/11 conspirators would have everyone believe. The agencies, like FEMA, who were involved were just lookers on as the consultants published the work and it was peer reviewed by the ASCE Structural Branch. The degree to which the matter was analyzed would boggle the mind. The degree of technical expertise involved and the magnitude of calculations are not within the realm of non engineers. An example: http://ascelibrary.org/sto/resource/1/jsendh/v137/i9/p869_s1?view=fulltext&bypassSSO=1 And in your own opinion? In Lay mans Terms or plain English As I have already told you, I posted it in great detail in previous threads on this site. Why is it OK to ask someone to repost the same thing over and over when you are just too lazy to go back and read it? I haven't counted them but I would bet that this is at least the fifteenth thread that has posed the same conspiracy concepts and been fully debunked at this site.

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 04/07/12 12:44 PM
I only asked you for a simple explanation. Never mind

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sat 04/07/12 01:10 PM
I only asked you for a simple explanation. Never mind I've already given several.

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Sat 04/07/12 03:36 PM Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sat 04/07/12 03:41 PM
I personally don't agree with anything in the official report, the NIST report, or any report coming out of 9/11 because NONE of them can be "proven" as factual, the official one or the conspiracy one.... we the American people just don't have enough EVIDENCE to say one side or the other on this issue is correct! Why then must we fight amongst ourselves, call names, label or otherwise deride each other when neither group has ENOUGH factual evidence to convict the other of falsehood? In-fighting amongst ourselves only means the perpetrator (whoever it was) has beat us, and won this fight! A country divided is easily defeated!

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 04/07/12 04:18 PM Edited by Optomistic69 on Sat 04/07/12 04:24 PM
I only asked you for a simple explanation. Never mind I've already given several. Why do you keep coming back in on these threads then? ======================================================== BTW SS I agree with you regarding not enough evidence on either side but the government have all the evidence you require but you ain't going to get it. Some on here do not seem to require it... surprises me that they are not government officials...or maybe they are Lets go over to the Barack Brand thread and try and develop a consensus...we are considered nuts on here because the government line is being touted and we know that the government couldn't care less about the bewildered herd

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sat 04/07/12 05:35 PM
http://mingle2.com/topic/show/319751 In this Psychology Today article, Conspiracy Theories are explained as the brains natural response to excessive and faulty repeated stimulation due to an overabundance of irrelevant or extraneous data which is viewed as threatening. In other words a mental disorder. Interesting reading. http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200501/conspiracy-theories-explained

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sat 04/07/12 06:08 PM
I only asked you for a simple explanation. Never mind I've already given several. Why do you keep coming back in on these threads then? ======================================================== BTW SS I agree with you regarding not enough evidence on either side but the government have all the evidence you require but you ain't going to get it. Some on here do not seem to require it... surprises me that they are not government officials...or maybe they are Lets go over to the Barack Brand thread and try and develop a consensus...we are considered nuts on here because the government line is being touted and we know that the government couldn't care less about the bewildered herd To point out the disingenuous nature of posts like yours. Truthers care nothing about the truth. Their goals are only to spread stupid lies.