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Topic: 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory
Conrad_73's photo
Thu 04/12/12 01:30 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 04/12/12 01:33 PM
I like the nano thermite theory! As the prof said (since fired from his job) 'hundreds of tons!' and then, we learn it can be mixed with regular explosive and painted onto beams but of course, CTs can't decide if it was melting steel or exploding it.

Hundreds of tons, painted onto beams. Mixed with regular everyday corner store C4 and brought up in lunch buckets, five pounds at a time for ............... let's see ......... five pounds, and a hundred tons ...................... that's two hundred thousand pounds ................... five pounds for forty thousand trips with the thermite not to mention the C4.

Or, Jeb Bush helping (Cheney's heart wouldn't take the strain), that's only twenty thousand trips a piece just to get the stuff there.

Ok, so, is there any record of workers all over the place with buckets of slop bringing hundreds of tons into the access panels to paint this crap onto the beams and pillars? And, when working with slop, it doesn't all go where you want it to, is there any record of people over the months/weeks/years whatever getting sick from having a strange substance (which explosives do to people) getting sick from contact their skin and even their food or drink? That is probably the main evidence that there was an inside job is the sickness rate of the people who worked in the WTC.

And, now we have to get the charges up there remembering that every place there was this 'special' material slopped on, it has to blow as the evidence can't remain as some shmuck worker on the ground might pull up a fragment of metal with a piece of det cord, remote det or whatever on it attached to some painted on explosive thermite which didn't go off.

So, that's a lot of stuff to get done. Lot of people. Lot of construction people with passes, excuses, paychecks etc. All without being noticed by the union who took care of the buildings.

How did they do it? And, without anybody getting sick, spilling one ounce of this stuff onto the carpets, clothes, into the air ducts, and without being noticed? And the unions had no problem with these non union guys just doing all this work too.

And ... everything hinges on the planes hitting the buildings. If they don't hit, the explosives will be discovered and the guys that put it all there (100 - 1000 non union guys) will get lethal injections. They have no problem doing this work over weeks or months knowing that their *** is covered by dirty terrorists living in caves in Afghanistan so, are in like a dirty shirt. on the big day, they're nervous, they have to have the explosive evidence all destroyed or their *** is toast in Terra Haute so they're anxious yet, once the planes hit, they wait ............ calmly waiting ........ they need all the evidence to go up. They can't have any inspector see the explosives, wires, detonators, remote devices whatever yet they wait ....... and wait ........ long after they could logically blow the building .........

with the WT7 just sitting there with anybody who wants to find the explosives there about to expose the whole thing sending them all to the injection chamber and then ........

They blow it.

Nothing far fetched going on there. Union guys risking their lives on the promise that some dudes living in a cave will come through with an elaborate plan kept secret for years and on four separate planes. And nobody has said a word, nobody has had any second thoughts of guilt, nobody has found religion or guilt in all this time. Nobody has gotten murdered, none of the people who are exposing this conspiracy are being silenced.

The entire government of the USA wants them dead and here they are, just targets for a poisoning, letter bomb, faulty ground in a hot tub, a heart attack and ......... they're all still spewing the nonsense.

rofl rofl :laughing: rofl rofl rofl

Chazster's photo
Thu 04/12/12 01:47 PM


omg.. you guys are just nuts...don't you have anything better to do than worry about the WTC collapse? i mean 12 years ago, and all you truthers worry about is a big government coverup? read some real books about engineering, instead those dumbass truther sites, you will see how wrong you truthers are...


Right. They even did a pretty good job of explaining it in Popular Mechanics.

Of course if someone REALLY wanted to know the nitty gritty they could read the ASCE Structural Journal but the math and jargon is heavy as they (we) argue and overanalyze every possible detail.

The failure of the two towers is somewhat like the sinking of the Titanic. It was unexpected and a world changing event. On a similar note, every detail from the rivet spacing to the grade of steel was analysied until an absolutely clear picture was drawn as to how the failures occurred.

I wonder where the truthers are regarding the Titanic? Obviously ice cannot harm steel so trained killer whales must have planted explosives along the bottom of the ship while in motion. Or perhaps the ship, passing over Atlantis, was shot by sonic beams to destroy the hull and icebergs were simply planted to fake evidence. Those Atlandians are an evil crafty bunch!

NO ONE TO THIS DAY HAVE PROVEN THAT ATLANDIANS CANNOT TELEPATHICALLY CONTROL KILLER WHALES!


Actually it has been progenitors they can. Aquaman was an Atlantian and he can control whales with telepathy.

Chazster's photo
Thu 04/12/12 01:51 PM
Conrad you forgot to mention that they had to know where the planes would hit so they could start the demolition there.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 04/12/12 01:51 PM


omg.. you guys are just nuts...don't you have anything better to do than worry about the WTC collapse? i mean 12 years ago, and all you truthers worry about is a big government coverup? read some real books about engineering, instead those dumbass truther sites, you will see how wrong you truthers are...


Right. They even did a pretty good job of explaining it in Popular Mechanics.

Of course if someone REALLY wanted to know the nitty gritty they could read the ASCE Structural Journal but the math and jargon is heavy as they (we) argue and overanalyze every possible detail.

The failure of the two towers is somewhat like the sinking of the Titanic. It was unexpected and a world changing event. On a similar note, every detail from the rivet spacing to the grade of steel was analysied until an absolutely clear picture was drawn as to how the failures occurred.

I wonder where the truthers are regarding the Titanic? Obviously ice cannot harm steel so trained killer whales must have planted explosives along the bottom of the ship while in motion. Or perhaps the ship, passing over Atlantis, was shot by sonic beams to destroy the hull and icebergs were simply planted to fake evidence. Those Atlandians are an evil crafty bunch!

NO ONE TO THIS DAY HAVE PROVEN THAT ATLANDIANS CANNOT TELEPATHICALLY CONTROL KILLER WHALES!


actually, i would respect that more that comparing the WTC to a BBQ grill... at least they would have some knowledge of reality...

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 04/12/12 02:10 PM

Conrad you forgot to mention that they had to know where the planes would hit so they could start the demolition there.
Damn,why didn't I think of that?frustrated sad :laughing:

s1owhand's photo
Thu 04/12/12 02:15 PM
laugh

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 04/12/12 02:39 PM

a 500 degree heat in a BBQ grill versus a 2000 degree heat of the size of a city block... nice comparison.. and you think your smart?
Were did the temp get to two thousand degrees? show me some footage that has that, if it did it was due to thermite.

It is verry difficult to get to two thousand degrees in a controled environemnt let alone an open air burn.

I recall my days as a furnace operator pre heating a pit furnace for a carb and harden on some rather large drive shafts, as soon as you drop the cold steel into a pre heated furnace the temp drops dramiticly because the cold steel acts as a heat sink.

impossible and absurd to think those temps could be gotten in an open air burn with fire resistant office furniture and what was left of the jet fuel, wich is basicly kerosene.

Its like argueing with a cult member cant change your programming your allready hard wired to be brainwashed (easily)

metalwing's photo
Thu 04/12/12 02:52 PM


a 500 degree heat in a BBQ grill versus a 2000 degree heat of the size of a city block... nice comparison.. and you think your smart?
Were did the temp get to two thousand degrees? show me some footage that has that, if it did it was due to thermite.

It is verry difficult to get to two thousand degrees in a controled environemnt let alone an open air burn.

I recall my days as a furnace operator pre heating a pit furnace for a carb and harden on some rather large drive shafts, as soon as you drop the cold steel into a pre heated furnace the temp drops dramiticly because the cold steel acts as a heat sink.

impossible and absurd to think those temps could be gotten in an open air burn with fire resistant office furniture and what was left of the jet fuel, wich is basicly kerosene.

Its like argueing with a cult member cant change your programming your allready hard wired to be brainwashed (easily)


Actually it was 1800 degrees by every source known to man ... except yours.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 04/12/12 02:55 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 04/12/12 03:05 PM


a 500 degree heat in a BBQ grill versus a 2000 degree heat of the size of a city block... nice comparison.. and you think your smart?
Were did the temp get to two thousand degrees? show me some footage that has that, if it did it was due to thermite.

It is verry difficult to get to two thousand degrees in a controled environemnt let alone an open air burn.

I recall my days as a furnace operator pre heating a pit furnace for a carb and harden on some rather large drive shafts, as soon as you drop the cold steel into a pre heated furnace the temp drops dramiticly because the cold steel acts as a heat sink.

impossible and absurd to think those temps could be gotten in an open air burn with fire resistant office furniture and what was left of the jet fuel, wich is basicly kerosene.

Its like argueing with a cult member cant change your programming your allready hard wired to be brainwashed (easily)
yep,especially with a Barbecue Grill!
And you call others absurd?:laughing:

Ever seen Metal,like Magnesium-Based Office-Furniture burn?
Doubt it!
What do you think happens to Connections of Girders,when they reach say 1500 degree?
Ever heard of metal expanding when heated?
Funny things happen when it can't expand freely!

so,then those Pieces of Metal in your Furnace never reached Operating Temperature,since they acted like a Heatsink?

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 04/12/12 03:16 PM



a 500 degree heat in a BBQ grill versus a 2000 degree heat of the size of a city block... nice comparison.. and you think your smart?
Were did the temp get to two thousand degrees? show me some footage that has that, if it did it was due to thermite.

It is verry difficult to get to two thousand degrees in a controled environemnt let alone an open air burn.

I recall my days as a furnace operator pre heating a pit furnace for a carb and harden on some rather large drive shafts, as soon as you drop the cold steel into a pre heated furnace the temp drops dramiticly because the cold steel acts as a heat sink.

impossible and absurd to think those temps could be gotten in an open air burn with fire resistant office furniture and what was left of the jet fuel, wich is basicly kerosene.

Its like argueing with a cult member cant change your programming your allready hard wired to be brainwashed (easily)
yep,especially with a Barbecue Grill!
And you call others absurd?:laughing:

Ever seen Metal,like Magnesium-Based Office-Furniture burn?
Doubt it!
What do you think happens to Connections of Girders,when they reach say 1500 degree?
Ever heard of metal expanding when heated?
Funny things happen when it can't expand freely!
It bends and stretches Mr Conrad its doesnt shatter like glass, there was almost no resistance at all between the somewhat weakened local structer and the undamaged areas. We are not talking little shear pins we are talking big trusses that would takesome time to heat to the core.

Deep down I think you know I am right many many people find this whole topic worthy of discussion many polls indicate many americans and others feel that something is amiss despite one of the most massive and sophisticated propaganda campaigns of all time.

People are stakeing their carreers on the topic above they feel so strongly about it.

I have seen steel at high temperature for decades after all Istated in a heat treat changed jobs to a forge and now I am a machinist.

The four lathes I run are fed from a heat treat to a draw furnace to a robot to my finish lathes so I am never far from my roots in heat treat.



mightymoe's photo
Thu 04/12/12 04:09 PM


a 500 degree heat in a BBQ grill versus a 2000 degree heat of the size of a city block... nice comparison.. and you think your smart?
Were did the temp get to two thousand degrees? show me some footage that has that, if it did it was due to thermite.

It is verry difficult to get to two thousand degrees in a controled environemnt let alone an open air burn.

I recall my days as a furnace operator pre heating a pit furnace for a carb and harden on some rather large drive shafts, as soon as you drop the cold steel into a pre heated furnace the temp drops dramiticly because the cold steel acts as a heat sink.

impossible and absurd to think those temps could be gotten in an open air burn with fire resistant office furniture and what was left of the jet fuel, wich is basicly kerosene.

Its like argueing with a cult member cant change your programming your allready hard wired to be brainwashed (easily)



when i was in the navy, all the planes and helicopters ran on JP5, which is a form of Diesel...but i forgot, your also an expert of fire too...whoa

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 04/12/12 05:31 PM



a 500 degree heat in a BBQ grill versus a 2000 degree heat of the size of a city block... nice comparison.. and you think your smart?
Were did the temp get to two thousand degrees? show me some footage that has that, if it did it was due to thermite.

It is verry difficult to get to two thousand degrees in a controled environemnt let alone an open air burn.

I recall my days as a furnace operator pre heating a pit furnace for a carb and harden on some rather large drive shafts, as soon as you drop the cold steel into a pre heated furnace the temp drops dramiticly because the cold steel acts as a heat sink.

impossible and absurd to think those temps could be gotten in an open air burn with fire resistant office furniture and what was left of the jet fuel, wich is basicly kerosene.

Its like argueing with a cult member cant change your programming your allready hard wired to be brainwashed (easily)



when i was in the navy, all the planes and helicopters ran on JP5, which is a form of Diesel...but i forgot, your also an expert of fire too...whoa
Well all you so called engineers should know that stuff doesnt burn all that hot untill its vaporized and mixed with air, dump it on the ground and burn it and I seriously doubt you will have anything close to 1800 degrees.

A furnace on cold start takes hours to reach that temp its a controled environment and designed to get hot.

Virtualy impossible to reach that temp in an open air burn.

Common sence at some point should start to sink in on 911.


mightymoe's photo
Thu 04/12/12 06:22 PM




a 500 degree heat in a BBQ grill versus a 2000 degree heat of the size of a city block... nice comparison.. and you think your smart?
Were did the temp get to two thousand degrees? show me some footage that has that, if it did it was due to thermite.

It is verry difficult to get to two thousand degrees in a controled environemnt let alone an open air burn.

I recall my days as a furnace operator pre heating a pit furnace for a carb and harden on some rather large drive shafts, as soon as you drop the cold steel into a pre heated furnace the temp drops dramiticly because the cold steel acts as a heat sink.

impossible and absurd to think those temps could be gotten in an open air burn with fire resistant office furniture and what was left of the jet fuel, wich is basicly kerosene.

Its like argueing with a cult member cant change your programming your allready hard wired to be brainwashed (easily)



when i was in the navy, all the planes and helicopters ran on JP5, which is a form of Diesel...but i forgot, your also an expert of fire too...whoa
Well all you so called engineers should know that stuff doesnt burn all that hot untill its vaporized and mixed with air, dump it on the ground and burn it and I seriously doubt you will have anything close to 1800 degrees.

A furnace on cold start takes hours to reach that temp its a controled environment and designed to get hot.

Virtualy impossible to reach that temp in an open air burn.

Common sence at some point should start to sink in on 911.




if you don't know, then just say you don't know... your talking about dumping diesel on the ground and lighting it up... then do the same thing in an enclosed space and see how much the temperature increases...

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 04/12/12 06:40 PM





a 500 degree heat in a BBQ grill versus a 2000 degree heat of the size of a city block... nice comparison.. and you think your smart?
Were did the temp get to two thousand degrees? show me some footage that has that, if it did it was due to thermite.

It is verry difficult to get to two thousand degrees in a controled environemnt let alone an open air burn.

I recall my days as a furnace operator pre heating a pit furnace for a carb and harden on some rather large drive shafts, as soon as you drop the cold steel into a pre heated furnace the temp drops dramiticly because the cold steel acts as a heat sink.

impossible and absurd to think those temps could be gotten in an open air burn with fire resistant office furniture and what was left of the jet fuel, wich is basicly kerosene.

Its like argueing with a cult member cant change your programming your allready hard wired to be brainwashed (easily)



when i was in the navy, all the planes and helicopters ran on JP5, which is a form of Diesel...but i forgot, your also an expert of fire too...whoa
Well all you so called engineers should know that stuff doesnt burn all that hot untill its vaporized and mixed with air, dump it on the ground and burn it and I seriously doubt you will have anything close to 1800 degrees.

A furnace on cold start takes hours to reach that temp its a controled environment and designed to get hot.

Virtualy impossible to reach that temp in an open air burn.

Common sence at some point should start to sink in on 911.




if you don't know, then just say you don't know... your talking about dumping diesel on the ground and lighting it up... then do the same thing in an enclosed space and see how much the temperature increases...
That is simply absurd as are most of your excuses. I saw a big hole in the building I saw broken windows etc etc I saw verry little fire after the initial impact.

At what point will you yeild to common sence?

mightymoe's photo
Thu 04/12/12 06:48 PM






a 500 degree heat in a BBQ grill versus a 2000 degree heat of the size of a city block... nice comparison.. and you think your smart?
Were did the temp get to two thousand degrees? show me some footage that has that, if it did it was due to thermite.

It is verry difficult to get to two thousand degrees in a controled environemnt let alone an open air burn.

I recall my days as a furnace operator pre heating a pit furnace for a carb and harden on some rather large drive shafts, as soon as you drop the cold steel into a pre heated furnace the temp drops dramiticly because the cold steel acts as a heat sink.

impossible and absurd to think those temps could be gotten in an open air burn with fire resistant office furniture and what was left of the jet fuel, wich is basicly kerosene.

Its like argueing with a cult member cant change your programming your allready hard wired to be brainwashed (easily)



when i was in the navy, all the planes and helicopters ran on JP5, which is a form of Diesel...but i forgot, your also an expert of fire too...whoa
Well all you so called engineers should know that stuff doesnt burn all that hot untill its vaporized and mixed with air, dump it on the ground and burn it and I seriously doubt you will have anything close to 1800 degrees.

A furnace on cold start takes hours to reach that temp its a controled environment and designed to get hot.

Virtualy impossible to reach that temp in an open air burn.

Common sence at some point should start to sink in on 911.




if you don't know, then just say you don't know... your talking about dumping diesel on the ground and lighting it up... then do the same thing in an enclosed space and see how much the temperature increases...
That is simply absurd as are most of your excuses. I saw a big hole in the building I saw broken windows etc etc I saw verry little fire after the initial impact.

At what point will you yeild to common sence?


let me ask you this.. have you done any experiments to prove you are right? i'm pretty sure the answer is no, because if you did, you will find out your wrong about a few things... when the heat is trapped, it heats everything up hotter than it would have done in an open space. the floors in-between would have trapped more heat, and make the temperature rise... did you ever wonder how an oven works? it really is 4th grade science being applied here....

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 04/13/12 01:48 AM
Well lets see lots of broken windows a big hole in the building most of the fuel used up in the flight itself the vast majority of the left over fuel blowes up in the impact....

A little while later the entire thing crumbles into fine dust and poweder into its own basement.....

yea sounds logical

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 04/13/12 01:58 AM

Well lets see lots of broken windows a big hole in the building most of the fuel used up in the flight itself the vast majority of the left over fuel blowes up in the impact....

A little while later the entire thing crumbles into fine dust and poweder into its own basement.....

yea sounds logical
what Fuel been used up?:laughing:

Where did all those Steel-Girders come from that had to be cut up and removed for months!
Man oh Man!Keep on showing!
slaphead

InvictusV's photo
Fri 04/13/12 04:11 AM
I like the nano thermite theory!

What is totally amazing about this claim is that after all the preparation and covert operations they would use a material that could only be directly traced back to the US military..

No one else in the entire world has Nano-thermite but the US military, so let's use that because we don't want anyone to know it was us..

Totally fning ridiculous..

metalwing's photo
Fri 04/13/12 04:25 AM

I like the nano thermite theory!

What is totally amazing about this claim is that after all the preparation and covert operations they would use a material that could only be directly traced back to the US military..

No one else in the entire world has Nano-thermite but the US military, so let's use that because we don't want anyone to know it was us..

Totally fning ridiculous..


A fully fueled jet takes off from Boston and flies to New York and has used up most of it's fuel?

This is proof of either stupidity below moron level or lies so blatant, no one could be expected to believe it. There is something else working here. I'm betting it is anti Bush agenda related that simply got it's own life and now he's stuck with defending the indefensible.

InvictusV's photo
Fri 04/13/12 04:35 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Fri 04/13/12 04:38 AM


I like the nano thermite theory!

What is totally amazing about this claim is that after all the preparation and covert operations they would use a material that could only be directly traced back to the US military..

No one else in the entire world has Nano-thermite but the US military, so let's use that because we don't want anyone to know it was us..

Totally fning ridiculous..


A fully fueled jet takes off from Boston and flies to New York and has used up most of it's fuel?

This is proof of either stupidity below moron level or lies so blatant, no one could be expected to believe it. There is something else working here. I'm betting it is anti Bush agenda related that simply got it's own life and now he's stuck with defending the indefensible.


It has always been about Bush..

James Fetzer is one of the top truthers and he claimed that Cheney had the military use a pulse weapon to kill Paul Wellstone..

These people are certifiable..

http://assassinationscience.com/PaulWellstone.pdf

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