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Topic: 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory
Bestinshow's photo
Fri 04/06/12 04:17 PM

Collapse free fall speed in 59 minutes


No Collapse burned for at least 5 hours.

Yes indeed, thank you for pointing that out. Just one of the many many weirdness of the offical government explanation that many of us seriously doubt and even find downright absurd.

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 04/06/12 04:26 PM
That second Photo...where are all the engineers to explain that one.

They can apply some reverse 911 engineering to that onebigsmile

metalwing's photo
Fri 04/06/12 04:45 PM

That second Photo...where are all the engineers to explain that one.

They can apply some reverse 911 engineering to that onebigsmile


If you took the time to read the threads you would find explanations to everything on this topic. But since actual knowledge isn't on your agenda ... ignorance is bliss.

Ancient civilizations didn't understand the science either so they made up conspiracy stories too.

RKISIT's photo
Fri 04/06/12 04:51 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Fri 04/06/12 04:53 PM


That second Photo...where are all the engineers to explain that one.

They can apply some reverse 911 engineering to that onebigsmile


If you took the time to read the threads you would find explanations to everything on this topic. But since actual knowledge isn't on your agenda ... ignorance is bliss.

Ancient civilizations didn't understand the science either so they made up conspiracy stories too.
yep it has a name also...God.laugh

i still don't believe it was a government conspiracy but i'm not going with 100% either after reading about Operation Northwood,though i still think the 911 was more of a foreign attack.

Chazster's photo
Fri 04/06/12 08:06 PM


That second Photo...where are all the engineers to explain that one.

They can apply some reverse 911 engineering to that onebigsmile


If you took the time to read the threads you would find explanations to everything on this topic. But since actual knowledge isn't on your agenda ... ignorance is bliss.

Ancient civilizations didn't understand the science either so they made up conspiracy stories too.


And yet they are going to ignore the fact that a demolition is was impossible according to physics. But hey what do you expect from conspiracy theorists?

metalwing's photo
Fri 04/06/12 08:13 PM



That second Photo...where are all the engineers to explain that one.

They can apply some reverse 911 engineering to that onebigsmile


If you took the time to read the threads you would find explanations to everything on this topic. But since actual knowledge isn't on your agenda ... ignorance is bliss.

Ancient civilizations didn't understand the science either so they made up conspiracy stories too.


And yet they are going to ignore the fact that a demolition is was impossible according to physics. But hey what do you expect from conspiracy theorists?


At this point, very little.

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 04/06/12 10:05 PM

False Flag Attack
April 6, 2012
Print Version




By Paul Craig Roberts

The stagecoach bounced along the uneven trail through Indian lands. A year ago there would have been danger from Indians. But Ulysses Grant had sent General Philip Henry Sheridan, who had brought the horrors of war to Confederate civilians, to annihilate the plains Indians.

In his winter campaign of 1868-69, Sheridan attacked the Cheyenne, Kiowa, and Comanche tribes in their winter quarters, killing women and children and taking the Indians’ supplies and livestock. In Congressional testimony, Sheridan advocated the slaughter of the vast herds of bison in order to deprive Indians of food.

Having turned professional hunters loose on Indian lands, Sheridan wrote: “Let them kill, skin and sell until the buffalo is exterminated.” For his proficiency in war crimes, Sheridan was made commanding general of the U.S. Army.

When the first thud of the arrows hit the stage, the passengers screamed, “Indians, we will be scalped.” Among the passengers was a grizzled, hardened man. He retrieved an arrow and noting the metal arrowhead realized that it was not an Indian arrow and that the stage was being attacked by outlaws posing as Indians.

False flag attacks are as old as history.

“Bowie” Johnston had fought Indians all his life. He had more respect for them than he had for most white men. Unlike the other passengers, he understood that Indians would be blamed when whites preyed upon whites.
He also understood that seized with fear, the stage driver would urge the horses onward. The rough trail would mean no accurate shooting from the coach and likely a broken axel or lost wheel. An overturned and wrecked stagecoach would be easy pickings for the outlaws.

Bowie opened the stage door and swung up on top of the coach. With his Colt at the driver’s head, he ordered the driver to stop the coach. He seized the Winchester from the guard. When the coach stopped, he commenced firing.

His two shots took two of the raiders out of their saddles. The rest, realizing they were facing an experienced fighter, rode off.

The stage driver and guard and the other passengers were both angry and relieved.

“We thought you were with the Indians,” they exclaimed, “but you drove them off!”

“They weren’t Indians,” Bowie replied. Those were outlaws after the payroll, knowing that they would be home clear with the robbery blamed on Indians.”

One of the self-important passengers ejaculated, “Why are you shielding those murdering savages. We know it was Indians. Look at all the arrows.”

“Mister,” replied Bowie, “I have been fighting Indians all my life. Look at this arrow. The feathers are not representative of any tribe. The arrowhead is metal. Indians have flint arrowheads. No Indian nation has a foundry or blacksmith. Come with me. Let’s go look at the two I killed.”

Reluctantly, the passengers accompanied Bowie, who wiped the war paint and grease from the dead men’s faces. A uniform gasp was emitted from the driver, guard, and passengers. All could see that a false flag attack had been perpetrated upon the stagecoach.

Bowie told his now attentive audience, ” this attack was intended to bring retribution upon demonized Indians. Innocent Indians would have been massacred while white men rode away with the money. Bowie removed the arrows from the stagecoach and put the metal tips into his pocket. We will take the bodies with us as evidence against further depredations against the Indians.

Bowie contemplated his life. He had been a man ever since a plains grizzly had struck down his horse and ripped him and his saddle off his horse’s back. Faced with a massive killing machine, the 185 pound man armed with a bowie knife felt small indeed. Bowie had been able to inflict enough wounds that the grizzly abandoned the attack.

Bowie’s steadfastness had saved his life, and now it had saved the lives of the stage passengers. Where did this steadfastness originate? Why hadn’t Bowie screamed, “we will be scalped!”

Experience. Bowie had experience. He knew.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/False_Flag_Attack_/18835/0/0/0/Y/M.html

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 04/06/12 10:11 PM



That second Photo...where are all the engineers to explain that one.

They can apply some reverse 911 engineering to that onebigsmile


If you took the time to read the threads you would find explanations to everything on this topic. But since actual knowledge isn't on your agenda ... ignorance is bliss.

Ancient civilizations didn't understand the science either so they made up conspiracy stories too.


And yet they are going to ignore the fact that a demolition is was impossible according to physics. But hey what do you expect from conspiracy theorists?
Interviewer: International researchers have found traces of explosives among the World Trade Center rubble. A new scientific article concludes that impacts from the two hijacked aircraft did not cause the collapses in 2001.

We turn our attention to 9/11: the major attack in New York. Apparently the two airplane impacts did not cause the towers to collapse, according to a newly published scientific article. Researchers found nano-thermite explosive in the rubble, that cannot have come from the planes. They believe several tonnes of explosives were placed in the buildings in advance.

Niels Harrit, you and eight other researchers conclude in this article, that it was nano-thermite that caused these buildings to collapse. What is nano-thermite?

Niels Harrit: We found nano-thermite in the rubble. We are not saying only nano-thermite was used. Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 °C. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron. Nanotechnology makes things smaller. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel.

Interviewer: I Googled nano-thermite, and not much has been written about it. Is it a widely known scientific substance? Or is it so new that other scientists are hardly aware of it?

Harrit: It is a collective name for substances with high levels of energy. If civilian researchers (like myself) are not familiar with it, it is probably because they do not do much work with explosives. As for military scientists, you would have to ask them. I do not know how familiar they are with nanotechnology.

Interviewer: So you found this substance in the WTC, why do you think it caused the collapses?

Harrit: Well, it's an explosive. Why else would it be there?

http://bigeye.com/nanothermite.htm

no photo
Sat 04/07/12 05:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdCsbZf1_Ng&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wVLeKwSkXA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNOM_U5UM6Q&feature=related

or maybe they snuck in and cut the beams with boxcutters

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sat 04/07/12 05:41 AM


Regardless of the events of that day, who is/was responsible, who knew or didn't know, physics, logic, conspiracies or anything else, one has to but look at the course of events since then to realize it was a game changer in the political agenda.

Whether created, caused, allowed or whatever, it is the events since that day that are the most frieghtening, the way our glorius leaders have used it to wrest control of the will and minds of the people, aduterating our constitution, stripping our rights and liberties, our freedoms, all in the name of security and safety...... but whose are they protecting?

Passify yourself with the argument over spilt milk and the thieves will rob your house in the meantime!

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 04/07/12 06:41 AM



Regardless of the events of that day, who is/was responsible, who knew or didn't know, physics, logic, conspiracies or anything else, one has to but look at the course of events since then to realize it was a game changer in the political agenda.

Whether created, caused, allowed or whatever, it is the events since that day that are the most frieghtening, the way our glorius leaders have used it to wrest control of the will and minds of the people, aduterating our constitution, stripping our rights and liberties, our freedoms, all in the name of security and safety...... but whose are they protecting?

Passify yourself with the argument over spilt milk and the thieves will rob your house in the meantime!


The point is SS that "if" 911 had any American involved in its execution then that person/s should be brought to book.

I take your point about spilled milk.

In the meantime the same people in control will still be in place whether Obama, Paul or Romney get elected.

The power is not in the whitehouse.

Brave men have taken these guys on before and guess what, we are still talking conspiracybigsmile

Lets all agree that the problem is not the Front men and we can address the the real world...you and I do not need to be controlled...or do we?

metalwing's photo
Sat 04/07/12 06:45 AM



Regardless of the events of that day, who is/was responsible, who knew or didn't know, physics, logic, conspiracies or anything else, one has to but look at the course of events since then to realize it was a game changer in the political agenda.

Whether created, caused, allowed or whatever, it is the events since that day that are the most frieghtening, the way our glorius leaders have used it to wrest control of the will and minds of the people, aduterating our constitution, stripping our rights and liberties, our freedoms, all in the name of security and safety...... but whose are they protecting?

Passify yourself with the argument over spilt milk and the thieves will rob your house in the meantime!


That is true. Billions are spent to prevent another plane related event while the southern border is left wide open for millions to cross illegally and bring thousands of tons of drugs and anything else into the US. It doesn't make sense.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/07/12 06:51 AM


False Flag Attack
April 6, 2012
Print Version




By Paul Craig Roberts

The stagecoach bounced along the uneven trail through Indian lands. A year ago there would have been danger from Indians. But Ulysses Grant had sent General Philip Henry Sheridan, who had brought the horrors of war to Confederate civilians, to annihilate the plains Indians.

In his winter campaign of 1868-69, Sheridan attacked the Cheyenne, Kiowa, and Comanche tribes in their winter quarters, killing women and children and taking the Indians’ supplies and livestock. In Congressional testimony, Sheridan advocated the slaughter of the vast herds of bison in order to deprive Indians of food.

Having turned professional hunters loose on Indian lands, Sheridan wrote: “Let them kill, skin and sell until the buffalo is exterminated.” For his proficiency in war crimes, Sheridan was made commanding general of the U.S. Army.

When the first thud of the arrows hit the stage, the passengers screamed, “Indians, we will be scalped.” Among the passengers was a grizzled, hardened man. He retrieved an arrow and noting the metal arrowhead realized that it was not an Indian arrow and that the stage was being attacked by outlaws posing as Indians.

False flag attacks are as old as history.

“Bowie” Johnston had fought Indians all his life. He had more respect for them than he had for most white men. Unlike the other passengers, he understood that Indians would be blamed when whites preyed upon whites.
He also understood that seized with fear, the stage driver would urge the horses onward. The rough trail would mean no accurate shooting from the coach and likely a broken axel or lost wheel. An overturned and wrecked stagecoach would be easy pickings for the outlaws.

Bowie opened the stage door and swung up on top of the coach. With his Colt at the driver’s head, he ordered the driver to stop the coach. He seized the Winchester from the guard. When the coach stopped, he commenced firing.

His two shots took two of the raiders out of their saddles. The rest, realizing they were facing an experienced fighter, rode off.

The stage driver and guard and the other passengers were both angry and relieved.

“We thought you were with the Indians,” they exclaimed, “but you drove them off!”

“They weren’t Indians,” Bowie replied. Those were outlaws after the payroll, knowing that they would be home clear with the robbery blamed on Indians.”

One of the self-important passengers ejaculated, “Why are you shielding those murdering savages. We know it was Indians. Look at all the arrows.”

“Mister,” replied Bowie, “I have been fighting Indians all my life. Look at this arrow. The feathers are not representative of any tribe. The arrowhead is metal. Indians have flint arrowheads. No Indian nation has a foundry or blacksmith. Come with me. Let’s go look at the two I killed.”

Reluctantly, the passengers accompanied Bowie, who wiped the war paint and grease from the dead men’s faces. A uniform gasp was emitted from the driver, guard, and passengers. All could see that a false flag attack had been perpetrated upon the stagecoach.

Bowie told his now attentive audience, ” this attack was intended to bring retribution upon demonized Indians. Innocent Indians would have been massacred while white men rode away with the money. Bowie removed the arrows from the stagecoach and put the metal tips into his pocket. We will take the bodies with us as evidence against further depredations against the Indians.

Bowie contemplated his life. He had been a man ever since a plains grizzly had struck down his horse and ripped him and his saddle off his horse’s back. Faced with a massive killing machine, the 185 pound man armed with a bowie knife felt small indeed. Bowie had been able to inflict enough wounds that the grizzly abandoned the attack.

Bowie’s steadfastness had saved his life, and now it had saved the lives of the stage passengers. Where did this steadfastness originate? Why hadn’t Bowie screamed, “we will be scalped!”

Experience. Bowie had experience. He knew.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/False_Flag_Attack_/18835/0/0/0/Y/M.html
and that Balderash proves that 9/11 was a False Flag-Attack!
Holy Cow!laugh

Bestinshow's photo
Sat 04/07/12 06:51 AM




Regardless of the events of that day, who is/was responsible, who knew or didn't know, physics, logic, conspiracies or anything else, one has to but look at the course of events since then to realize it was a game changer in the political agenda.

Whether created, caused, allowed or whatever, it is the events since that day that are the most frieghtening, the way our glorius leaders have used it to wrest control of the will and minds of the people, aduterating our constitution, stripping our rights and liberties, our freedoms, all in the name of security and safety...... but whose are they protecting?

Passify yourself with the argument over spilt milk and the thieves will rob your house in the meantime!


That is true. Billions are spent to prevent another plane related event while the southern border is left wide open for millions to cross illegally and bring thousands of tons of drugs and anything else into the US. It doesn't make sense.
There we agree I often wonder how illegal drugs can get in the country if our borders are so tight due to 911.

Your point is valid also how can people get in? So all this money we are spending all the freedoms we have lost are clearly aimed at the citizens and not some external threat.

911 was used as the spring board for our total survalience state.

Obama wont change it,Romney wont either and I suspect anyone who tries will be eliminated one way or another be it charecter assination or an "accident".

seriously its time to rethink what this country is turning into once the lid slams shut it will be far to late if it isnt allready.

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 04/07/12 06:52 AM



That is true. Billions are spent to prevent another plane related event while the southern border is left wide open for millions to cross illegally and bring thousands of tons of drugs and anything else into the US. It doesn't make sense.



What about The NAU North American Union?

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/07/12 06:59 AM




That second Photo...where are all the engineers to explain that one.

They can apply some reverse 911 engineering to that onebigsmile


If you took the time to read the threads you would find explanations to everything on this topic. But since actual knowledge isn't on your agenda ... ignorance is bliss.

Ancient civilizations didn't understand the science either so they made up conspiracy stories too.


And yet they are going to ignore the fact that a demolition is was impossible according to physics. But hey what do you expect from conspiracy theorists?
Interviewer: International researchers have found traces of explosives among the World Trade Center rubble. A new scientific article concludes that impacts from the two hijacked aircraft did not cause the collapses in 2001.

We turn our attention to 9/11: the major attack in New York. Apparently the two airplane impacts did not cause the towers to collapse, according to a newly published scientific article. Researchers found nano-thermite explosive in the rubble, that cannot have come from the planes. They believe several tonnes of explosives were placed in the buildings in advance.

Niels Harrit, you and eight other researchers conclude in this article, that it was nano-thermite that caused these buildings to collapse. What is nano-thermite?

Niels Harrit: We found nano-thermite in the rubble. We are not saying only nano-thermite was used. Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 °C. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron. Nanotechnology makes things smaller. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel.

Interviewer: I Googled nano-thermite, and not much has been written about it. Is it a widely known scientific substance? Or is it so new that other scientists are hardly aware of it?

Harrit: It is a collective name for substances with high levels of energy. If civilian researchers (like myself) are not familiar with it, it is probably because they do not do much work with explosives. As for military scientists, you would have to ask them. I do not know how familiar they are with nanotechnology.

Interviewer: So you found this substance in the WTC, why do you think it caused the collapses?

Harrit: Well, it's an explosive. Why else would it be there?

http://bigeye.com/nanothermite.htm
wonder how long after the refutation of the Explosives-Theory it would take until the Nano-Thermite would surface!:laughing:
As improbable as the Demolition-With-Explosives-Theory!:laughing:
A bit more,even!
Inform yourself about the way Thermite has to be applied to be effective!
And the same applies again,Time-Element,when did they apply thousands of pounds of that Stuff,which works best on Horizontal Surfaces?
How did they hide the work?
Would create a similar mess as when you have to apply Cutting Charges!:laughing:

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/07/12 07:00 AM




That is true. Billions are spent to prevent another plane related event while the southern border is left wide open for millions to cross illegally and bring thousands of tons of drugs and anything else into the US. It doesn't make sense.



What about The NAU North American Union?
yeah,what about it?laugh
Where is it,nearly eleven years after?laugh

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 04/07/12 07:02 AM





That is true. Billions are spent to prevent another plane related event while the southern border is left wide open for millions to cross illegally and bring thousands of tons of drugs and anything else into the US. It doesn't make sense.



What about The NAU North American Union?
yeah,what about it?laugh
Where is it,nearly eleven years after?laugh


I think the Mexicans and Canadians feel that the American ship is sinkingbigsmile

Bestinshow's photo
Sat 04/07/12 07:05 AM





That second Photo...where are all the engineers to explain that one.

They can apply some reverse 911 engineering to that onebigsmile


If you took the time to read the threads you would find explanations to everything on this topic. But since actual knowledge isn't on your agenda ... ignorance is bliss.

Ancient civilizations didn't understand the science either so they made up conspiracy stories too.


And yet they are going to ignore the fact that a demolition is was impossible according to physics. But hey what do you expect from conspiracy theorists?
Interviewer: International researchers have found traces of explosives among the World Trade Center rubble. A new scientific article concludes that impacts from the two hijacked aircraft did not cause the collapses in 2001.

We turn our attention to 9/11: the major attack in New York. Apparently the two airplane impacts did not cause the towers to collapse, according to a newly published scientific article. Researchers found nano-thermite explosive in the rubble, that cannot have come from the planes. They believe several tonnes of explosives were placed in the buildings in advance.

Niels Harrit, you and eight other researchers conclude in this article, that it was nano-thermite that caused these buildings to collapse. What is nano-thermite?

Niels Harrit: We found nano-thermite in the rubble. We are not saying only nano-thermite was used. Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 °C. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron. Nanotechnology makes things smaller. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel.

Interviewer: I Googled nano-thermite, and not much has been written about it. Is it a widely known scientific substance? Or is it so new that other scientists are hardly aware of it?

Harrit: It is a collective name for substances with high levels of energy. If civilian researchers (like myself) are not familiar with it, it is probably because they do not do much work with explosives. As for military scientists, you would have to ask them. I do not know how familiar they are with nanotechnology.

Interviewer: So you found this substance in the WTC, why do you think it caused the collapses?

Harrit: Well, it's an explosive. Why else would it be there?

http://bigeye.com/nanothermite.htm
wonder how long after the refutation of the Explosives-Theory it would take until the Nano-Thermite would surface!:laughing:
As improbable as the Demolition-With-Explosives-Theory!:laughing:
A bit more,even!
Inform yourself about the way Thermite has to be applied to be effective!
And the same applies again,Time-Element,when did they apply thousands of pounds of that Stuff,which works best on Horizontal Surfaces?
How did they hide the work?
Would create a similar mess as when you have to apply Cutting Charges!:laughing:
I say its more improbable Mr Conrad that people who could not fly cessnas flew jumbo jets.

Its more improbable that one actualy got through the air space over washington.

Inform yourself in what it takes to fly a jumbo jetlaugh

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/07/12 07:06 AM






That is true. Billions are spent to prevent another plane related event while the southern border is left wide open for millions to cross illegally and bring thousands of tons of drugs and anything else into the US. It doesn't make sense.



What about The NAU North American Union?
yeah,what about it?laugh
Where is it,nearly eleven years after?laugh


I think the Mexicans and Canadians feel that the American ship is sinkingbigsmile
so where is that leaving your vaunted NAU,that you think was one of the reasons for 9/11?bigsmile

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