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Topic: The Stand Your Ground Case
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Mon 04/09/12 02:09 PM
Apparently that night it was unseasonable cold.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 04/10/12 12:12 AM









Let's review, it's Florida it wasn't cold and that is why senior citizens go there during the winter. It didn't warrant wearing a hooded sweatshirt with the hood up to conceal your identity in a store(which is never warranted btw).




NICE TRY,, why is he heard saying its cold on the tape then? Florida does get cold at night,,,,it doesnt stay hot 24/7 365,,,,,travel a bit,,,,


No, it is pretty warm there around the clock, much like Vegas. But you will whatever you can to defend the PUNK.

Pah. Wishful thinking on your part.

As per the 911 tape...

Zimmerman stated it was raining... ergo Hoody UP.

I would like to see this tried in a court of law. I will not convict either man...

Nor will I stand by and say nothing when twisted facts are relayed.


Those tropical rains are just so cold...........whoa


still no answer on why Zimmerman was wearing a HEAVY JACKET,,,much heavier than what a hoody is,,,,,????

Yes, we will probably never know everything. yawn



no, but we can make logical conclusions

if someone was wearing a heavy coat and taped saying 'its cold'

and the average nighttime low in that ragion at that time is in the mid fifties to sixties

,,,it was probably cold enough for a hoody,,,


and if that fails, there is generally a weather forecast that can be recalled and reviewed, to help with that particular knowledge


It get's a lot colder here then they could ever dream of and I have NEVER wore a hood up on a hoodie.........


still not sure why these posts are stated so matter of factly

simple research of the two areas and their climates is all it would take to refute the notion that its never colder in florida than in nevada, or that there is not hoody weather in either place

hoodies are not HEAVY material, they hust have hoods
and ZIMMERMAN himself is seen on tape wearing a HEAVY jacket

so the very claim that Florida is not ever cold enough for a hoodie must come from intellectual dishonesty or plain ignorance,,,,


Hoodies with hoods up are what gang members and PUNKS do and wear to try to be hard a$$e$.

msharmony's photo
Tue 04/10/12 12:13 AM










Let's review, it's Florida it wasn't cold and that is why senior citizens go there during the winter. It didn't warrant wearing a hooded sweatshirt with the hood up to conceal your identity in a store(which is never warranted btw).




NICE TRY,, why is he heard saying its cold on the tape then? Florida does get cold at night,,,,it doesnt stay hot 24/7 365,,,,,travel a bit,,,,


No, it is pretty warm there around the clock, much like Vegas. But you will whatever you can to defend the PUNK.

Pah. Wishful thinking on your part.

As per the 911 tape...

Zimmerman stated it was raining... ergo Hoody UP.

I would like to see this tried in a court of law. I will not convict either man...

Nor will I stand by and say nothing when twisted facts are relayed.


Those tropical rains are just so cold...........whoa


still no answer on why Zimmerman was wearing a HEAVY JACKET,,,much heavier than what a hoody is,,,,,????

Yes, we will probably never know everything. yawn



no, but we can make logical conclusions

if someone was wearing a heavy coat and taped saying 'its cold'

and the average nighttime low in that ragion at that time is in the mid fifties to sixties

,,,it was probably cold enough for a hoody,,,


and if that fails, there is generally a weather forecast that can be recalled and reviewed, to help with that particular knowledge


It get's a lot colder here then they could ever dream of and I have NEVER wore a hood up on a hoodie.........


still not sure why these posts are stated so matter of factly

simple research of the two areas and their climates is all it would take to refute the notion that its never colder in florida than in nevada, or that there is not hoody weather in either place

hoodies are not HEAVY material, they hust have hoods
and ZIMMERMAN himself is seen on tape wearing a HEAVY jacket

so the very claim that Florida is not ever cold enough for a hoodie must come from intellectual dishonesty or plain ignorance,,,,


Hoodies with hoods up are what gang members and PUNKS do and wear to try to be hard a$$e$.



just the type of philosophy I dont want coupled with somoene bearing a weapon,,,,,

teens of all ages and backgrounds wear hoodies, because they are a fashion trend,,,,,

Lpdon's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:52 AM











Let's review, it's Florida it wasn't cold and that is why senior citizens go there during the winter. It didn't warrant wearing a hooded sweatshirt with the hood up to conceal your identity in a store(which is never warranted btw).




NICE TRY,, why is he heard saying its cold on the tape then? Florida does get cold at night,,,,it doesnt stay hot 24/7 365,,,,,travel a bit,,,,


No, it is pretty warm there around the clock, much like Vegas. But you will whatever you can to defend the PUNK.

Pah. Wishful thinking on your part.

As per the 911 tape...

Zimmerman stated it was raining... ergo Hoody UP.

I would like to see this tried in a court of law. I will not convict either man...

Nor will I stand by and say nothing when twisted facts are relayed.


Those tropical rains are just so cold...........whoa


still no answer on why Zimmerman was wearing a HEAVY JACKET,,,much heavier than what a hoody is,,,,,????

Yes, we will probably never know everything. yawn



no, but we can make logical conclusions

if someone was wearing a heavy coat and taped saying 'its cold'

and the average nighttime low in that ragion at that time is in the mid fifties to sixties

,,,it was probably cold enough for a hoody,,,


and if that fails, there is generally a weather forecast that can be recalled and reviewed, to help with that particular knowledge


It get's a lot colder here then they could ever dream of and I have NEVER wore a hood up on a hoodie.........


still not sure why these posts are stated so matter of factly

simple research of the two areas and their climates is all it would take to refute the notion that its never colder in florida than in nevada, or that there is not hoody weather in either place

hoodies are not HEAVY material, they hust have hoods
and ZIMMERMAN himself is seen on tape wearing a HEAVY jacket

so the very claim that Florida is not ever cold enough for a hoodie must come from intellectual dishonesty or plain ignorance,,,,


Hoodies with hoods up are what gang members and PUNKS do and wear to try to be hard a$$e$.



just the type of philosophy I dont want coupled with somoene bearing a weapon,,,,,

teens of all ages and backgrounds wear hoodies, because they are a fashion trend,,,,,


For PUNKS and HOOLIGANS.

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/11/12 12:12 PM












Let's review, it's Florida it wasn't cold and that is why senior citizens go there during the winter. It didn't warrant wearing a hooded sweatshirt with the hood up to conceal your identity in a store(which is never warranted btw).




NICE TRY,, why is he heard saying its cold on the tape then? Florida does get cold at night,,,,it doesnt stay hot 24/7 365,,,,,travel a bit,,,,


No, it is pretty warm there around the clock, much like Vegas. But you will whatever you can to defend the PUNK.

Pah. Wishful thinking on your part.

As per the 911 tape...

Zimmerman stated it was raining... ergo Hoody UP.

I would like to see this tried in a court of law. I will not convict either man...

Nor will I stand by and say nothing when twisted facts are relayed.


Those tropical rains are just so cold...........whoa


still no answer on why Zimmerman was wearing a HEAVY JACKET,,,much heavier than what a hoody is,,,,,????

Yes, we will probably never know everything. yawn



no, but we can make logical conclusions

if someone was wearing a heavy coat and taped saying 'its cold'

and the average nighttime low in that ragion at that time is in the mid fifties to sixties

,,,it was probably cold enough for a hoody,,,


and if that fails, there is generally a weather forecast that can be recalled and reviewed, to help with that particular knowledge


It get's a lot colder here then they could ever dream of and I have NEVER wore a hood up on a hoodie.........


still not sure why these posts are stated so matter of factly

simple research of the two areas and their climates is all it would take to refute the notion that its never colder in florida than in nevada, or that there is not hoody weather in either place

hoodies are not HEAVY material, they hust have hoods
and ZIMMERMAN himself is seen on tape wearing a HEAVY jacket

so the very claim that Florida is not ever cold enough for a hoodie must come from intellectual dishonesty or plain ignorance,,,,


Hoodies with hoods up are what gang members and PUNKS do and wear to try to be hard a$$e$.



just the type of philosophy I dont want coupled with somoene bearing a weapon,,,,,

teens of all ages and backgrounds wear hoodies, because they are a fashion trend,,,,,


For PUNKS and HOOLIGANS.



yeah thats what the manufacturers advertised them as

punk and hooligan wear,,,

whoa

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Wed 05/02/12 02:42 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Wed 05/02/12 02:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kCbU0zDhTBY

Discusses why Stand your ground statues have NOTHING to do with this case. It also goes on to explain these kinds of law are VERY old, ruled on by the supreme court, and not some crazy thing we love down in Florida, but old law with much support in case law, and common law.

msharmony's photo
Wed 05/02/12 04:49 PM
my understanding is that stand your ground MOSTLY related to actions on private property, like inside ones home or in ones own yard,,,

there is very little there that really applies to PUBLIC areas,,,,so I would agree that it has little to do with this case

however, the absence of SPECIFIC reference to public incidents leaves room for interpretations (kind of like the absence of a definition of 'natural born' in the constitution allows for subjective interpretations)

and the attorneys may or may not use that in this case,,,

Lpdon's photo
Sun 05/06/12 11:59 PM
The hoodie took off in the 1970s, with several factors contributing to its success. Hip hop culture developed in New York City around this time, and the hoodie's element of instant anonymity, provided by the accessible hood, appealed to those with criminal intent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoodie#United_States

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/07/12 12:55 AM

The hoodie took off in the 1970s, with several factors contributing to its success. Hip hop culture developed in New York City around this time, and the hoodie's element of instant anonymity, provided by the accessible hood, appealed to those with criminal intent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoodie#United_States


guns appeal to those with criminal intent too,,, does that make Z a thug?



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