Question:

"What is liberal Christian theology?"


Answer:

In liberal Christian teaching, which is not Christian at all,
man’s reason is stressed and is treated as the final authority.

Liberal theologians seek to reconcile Christianity with secular science and modern thinking.

In doing so,
they treat science as all-knowing and the Bible as fable-laden and false.

Genesis’ early chapters are reduced to poetry or fantasy, having a message,
but not to be taken literally (in spite of Jesus’ having spoken of those early chapters in literal terms).

Mankind is not seen as totally depraved,
and thus liberal theologians have an optimistic view of the future of mankind.

The social gospel is also emphasized,
while the inability of fallen man to fulfill it is denied.

Whether a person is saved from his sin and its penalty in hell is no longer the issue;
the main thing is how man treats his fellow man.

“Love” of our fellow man becomes the defining issue.

As a result of this “reasoning” by liberal theologians,
the following doctrines are taught by liberal quasi-Christian theologians:


1) The Bible is not “God-breathed” and has errors.
Because of this belief,
man (the liberal theologians) must determine which teachings are correct and which are not.

Belief that the Bible is “inspired”
(in that word’s original meaning) by God is only held by simpletons.

This directly contradicts 2 Timothy 3:16-17:
“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting
and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”


2) The virgin birth of Christ is a mythological false teaching.
This directly contradicts Isaiah 7:14 and Luke 2.


3) Jesus did not rise again from the grave in bodily form.

This contradicts the resurrection accounts in all four Gospels and the entire New Testament.


4) Jesus was a good moral teacher,
but His followers and their followers have taken liberties with the history of His life
(there were no “supernatural” miracles),
with the Gospels having been written many years later and merely ascribed to the early disciples
in order to give greater weight to their teachings.

This contradicts the 2 Timothy passage and the doctrine of the supernatural preservation of the Scriptures by God.


5) Hell is not real.
Man is not lost in sin
and is not doomed to some future judgment without a relationship with Christ through faith.
Man can help himself; no sacrificial death by Christ is necessary
since a loving God would not send people to such a place as hell
and since man is not born in sin.

This contradicts Jesus Himself, who declared Himself to be the Way to God, through His atoning death (John 14:6).


6) Most of the human authors of the Bible are not who they are traditionally believed to be.
For instance,
they believe that Moses did not write the first five books of the Bible.
The book of Daniel had two authors
because there is no way that the detailed “prophecies” of the later chapters
could have been known ahead of time; they must have been written after the fact.
The same thinking is carried over to the New Testament books.

These ideas contradict not only the Scriptures but historical documents
which verify the existence of all the people whom the liberals deny.


7) The most important thing for man to do is to “love” his neighbor.
What is the loving thing to do in any situation is not what the Bible says is good
but what the liberal theologians decide is good.

This denies the doctrine of total depravity,
which states that man is capable to doing nothing good and loving (Jeremiah 17:9)
until He has been redeemed by Christ and given a new nature (2 Corinthians 5:17).


There are many pronouncements of Scripture
against those who would deny the deity of Christ (2 Peter 2:1)

—which liberal Christianity does.

Scripture also denounces
those who would preach a different gospel from what was preached by the apostles (Galatians 1:8)

—which is what the liberal theologians do
in denying the necessity of Christ’s atoning death
and preaching a social gospel in its place.

The Bible condemns those who call good evil and evil good (Isaiah 5:20)

—which some liberal churches do
by embracing homosexuality as an alternative lifestyle
while the Bible repeatedly condemns its practice.

Scripture speaks against
those who would cry “peace, peace” when there is no peace (Jeremiah 6:14)

—which liberal theologians do
by saying that man can attain peace with God apart from Christ’s sacrifice on the cross
and that man need not worry about a future judgment before God.

The Word of God speaks of a time when men will have a form of godliness,
but deny the power thereof (2 Timothy 3:5)

—which is what liberal theology does
in that is says that there is some inner goodness in man that does not require a rebirth
by the Holy Spirit through faith in Christ.

And it speaks against those who would serve idols instead of the one true God (1 Chronicles 16:26)

—which liberal Christianity does
in that it creates a false god according to its own liking rather than worshiping God
as He is described in the whole of the Bible.



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For further insights on this topic, please visit:

Recommended Resource: The Moody Handbook of Theology by Paul Enns.

Revelation 3:16 (NIV) -- So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

The nature of man is NOT to do what God asks. Man's nature is to head for sin like a speeding hotrod drag racer. On the journey to a right relationship with Christ, some folks like to take the road of least resistance, which ends up being a compromised, liberal, "I'm gonna believe whatever I decide to believe", "Lukewarm" stance.

Its a portion of their human nature that hasn't yet been nailed to the cross. Unfortunately, there are some who go about attempting to teach others about "their" view on the scriptures, howbeit they seem to be the only ones who believe in some particular way.


2 Peter 1:20 (KJV) -- Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

There is also a thought that there is wisdom in numbers, or I have heard it said "wisdom is in the counsel of many." Such as:
Proverbs 11:14 (KJV) -- Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety. --or-- Proverbs 15:22 (KJV) -- Without counsel purposes are disappointed: but in the multitude of counsellors they are established.

A couple things, too... we are bid to NOT forsake the assembling of ourselves together..

Hebrews 10:24-25
v24 - And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
v25 - Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

I know for years I was a "lonewolf Christian"... I would tell people I was a Christian, but I had a big blob of goo in my heart against what I called "organized religion." And in those days there were many things I started to "believe" that had nothing to do with God or the Bible. I even began to dabble in Voodoo and Wiccan things. Looking back, I know I was lost. I was outside of any good counsel group of believers, and I had gone astray. Praise God that he brought me back to the fold.

From the 2 Peter 1:20 verse above, I noticed I would sometimes make up my own version of beliefs toward certain scriptures. But that is not God's way. There is but one God, and one Church, one Christ, one Baptism, ... and there is really only one true faith-walk that aligns with the scriptures. There are not many paths, but only one path, there are not many saviors, but only One Savior for all. Living outside of God's Grace and will for my life, I believed all kinds of things.

I might say that these other-beliefs had become idols, gods (with a small "g") and they became for a time a matter of personal and selfish pride. I thought I was "enlightened" (not knowing I was deceived). Somehow I had gotten off the narrow path and had taken a turn down a wide path to destruction.

One cannot just pick-and-choose which portions of scripture to believe, then discard the rest of the book. It doesn't work that way.

The concept is to stand, as if a warrior, wearing God's armor. (Ephesians 6:10-17)(Isaiah 59:17) I truly believe the correct path is to live a "no compromise" walk with Christ. I think getting there is a lifetime achievement. Something we say often is that "failure is not final." Its just a saying, but there is a lot of truth in that.

We (as Christians) are all in some stage of growth in our walk with God. We don't get "Perfect Pants" just by accepting Jesus. The first day of our Christian walk the angels are rejoicing, a few days later they might be fighting a spiritual battle on our behalf. Ephesians 6:12 states -- "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." There is warfare in heaven on our behalf as these things of life are wrestled with. We might see a struggle in our physical existence, but the true battle is in spiritual places.

Unfortunately some of these "wise" (cough-cough) "teachers" spring up with a "Ph.D." following their name, and then proceed to claim and pronounce most anything and everything. The Bible has something to speak of those who teach or attempt to teach the scriptures:

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1 John 4:1-6 (NIV)
v1 - Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
v2 - This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
v3 - but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
v4 - You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
v5 - They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.
v6 - We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

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The Bible tells us there are false prophets in the world, and as early as the days of these scriptures being written, the spirit of the antichirst was already in the world.

2nd Peter 2 devotes a whole chapter in the discussion of false prophets.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2 Peter+2&version=NIV

From verse 1... "...They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves."

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The Christian of today, in order to live a no-compromise walk with Jesus, must pray daily (or as the Bible says, pray without ceasing - 1 Thessalonians 5:17 ), one must study the scriptures and test the spirits, not every person that stand up to proclaim God's message is from God, one must assemble with other believers as God created us as social creatures, not "lone wolves." (...It is not good for the man to be alone... Genesis 2:18). God's next act after creating Adam was to notice he was alone, and to create another person to be by his side. Plus the verse above about not forsaking the assembling of yourselves... (Hebrews 10:25). There is strength in numbers, and numbers that gather together with a common faith, not every one believing as he or she determines. An enemy divided will fall. (Matthew 12:25) It is the Christian who stands alongside his fellow Christian that will succeed in their walk with Christ. The sheep that goes astray might just get eaten by the wolves.

Pray, ask for God's guidance, and know that there are false teachers out there spreading heresies and all types on non-truths.

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,"

Romans 1:22

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%2011:12-15&version=NIV
2 Corinthians 11:12-15
New International Version (NIV)

12 And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. 13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Hmmmm, simpletons? Read the entire 2 Timothy 3. Pay close attention to verse 3 where "slanderous" is mentioned...

Anyhow, Nothing about using scripture to correct this injustice in any way contradicts those verses.

http://concordances.org/greek/2315.htm
Strong's concordance G2315. theopneustos:

theopneustos: God-breathed, i.e. inspired by God
Original Word: θεόπνευστος, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: theopneustos
Phonetic Spelling: (theh-op'-nyoo-stos)
Short Definition: God-breathed, inspired by God
Definition: God-breathed, inspired by God, due to the inspiration of God.



Now I'm going to point out a few "errors" that the Bible itself reveals... Take it as you will, just please don't allow no "holy ghost" to interpret it for you.
Please, please, please, use your own minds and hearts...


(1) Jeremiah 8:8-9
New International Version (NIV)

8 “‘How can you say, “We are wise,
for we have the law of the LORD,”
when actually the lying pen of the scribes
has handled it falsely?
9 The wise will be put to shame;
they will be dismayed and trapped.
Since they have rejected the word of the LORD,
what kind of wisdom do they have?


Here we have scriptural proof that the scribes had lied while transscribing the law.

Yeshua backs this up here:

(2) Matthew 19:3-9
New International Version (NIV)

3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”


Does anyone deny these words spoken by Yeshua?


And now, a prophet confirming the sacrificial "laws" were never commanded:

(3) Jeremiah 7:21-23
New King James Version (NKJV)

21 Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: “Add your burnt offerings to your sacrifices and eat meat. 22 For I did not speak to your fathers, or command them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices. 23 But this is what I commanded them, saying, ‘Obey My voice, and I will be your God, and you shall be My people. And walk in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well with you.’


Before you wish to argue that I should be using the NIV, check out the Hebrew version online here:
http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/jer7.pdf

And a Psalm to re-affirm the uselessness of sacrifices.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+50&version=NIV


And lastly, we find a passage that warns of changing the scriptures:


(4) Revelation 22:18-19
New International Version (NIV)

18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

I'm not "liberal", so I won't refute either claim, just the incorrect facts...


Isaiah 7:14 is most suredly a mistranslation. I won't make no accusations as to who's fault, but it most certainly did NOT specify a virgin.

http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/isa7.pdf

עַלְמָה nf. lass, maiden, damsel, fraulein, mademoiselle, signorina

בתולי v. to hang adj./n. virgin (masc.) adj. virgin (adj.) , virginal, maiden nm. virginity, maidenhood, chastity, hymen, maidenhead

http://translation.babylon.com/hebrew/to-english/


The word used was עַלְמָה (damsel)



Luke 2 simply references the wrong verse...

Peter, you have a conglomeration of possible issues presented here.

Seems you're in disagreement with the Word of God.

Do you have issues with the OT scribes
and the authenticity of their writings?

And the NT as well?

And you say, Don't allow the Holy Ghost to interpret the scriptures for me???

It would be a wasted effort to discuss the Bible with you if the Holy Spirit were not welcomed.

The proverbial "private interpretations" would take affect without the presence and indwelling of the Holy Spirit with us.

I welcome the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit was given to ALL who believe God is true.

Jesus says:

Joh_4:23, But the hour cometh, and now is,
when the true worshippers shall worship the Father
in spirit and in truth:
for the Father seeketh such to worship him.


Joh_15:26, But when the Comforter is come,
whom I will send unto you from the Father,
even the Spirit of truth,
which proceedeth from the Father,
he shall testify of me:


Joh_16:13, Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come,
he will guide you into all truth:
for he shall not speak of himself;
but whatsoever he shall hear,
that shall he speak:
and he will shew you things to come.


If you doubt that scripture is true and inspired of God, then
that would explain your confusion about what you've read and why you see inconsistancies.

In leaving out the Holy Ghost,
we'd be "professing [ourselves] to be wise,"
thus ...becoming fools.
Romans 1:22

If you will believe on the Lord Jesus Christ
you will be saved and
He will send the Spirit of truth
to verify what is of truth.

Trust in the Lord with ALL thine heart
and lean not unto thine own understanding,
in ALL thy ways acknowledge Him
and He shall direct thy paths.

Here is a ready research on the of the virginal birth.
I hope this will help, Peter:


Question:

"Is 'virgin' or 'young woman' the correct translation of Isaiah 7:14?"

Answer:

Isaiah 7:14 reads,
"Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: the virgin will be with child
and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel." Quoting Isaiah 7:14, Matthew 1:23 reads, "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel - which means, 'God with us.'" Christians point to this "virgin birth" as evidence of Messianic prophecy fulfilled by Jesus.

Is this a valid example of fulfilled prophecy? Is Isaiah 7:14 predicting the virgin birth of Jesus? Is "virgin" even the proper translation of the Hebrew word used in Isaiah 7:14?

The Hebrew word in Isaiah 7:14 is "almah," and its inherent meaning is "young woman." "Almah" can mean "virgin," as young unmarried women in ancient Hebrew culture were assumed to be virgins. Again, though, the word does not necessarily imply virginity. "Almah" occurs seven times in the Hebrew Scriptures (Genesis 24:43; Exodus 2:8; Psalm 68:25; Proverbs 30:19; Song of Solomon 1:3; 6:8; Isaiah 7:14). None of these instances demands the meaning "virgin," but neither do they deny the possible meaning of "virgin." There is no conclusive argument for "almah" in Isaiah 7:14 being either "young woman" or "virgin." However, it is interesting to note, that in the 3rd century B.C., when a panel of Hebrew scholars and Jewish rabbis began the process of translating the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek, they used the specific Greek word for virgin, "parthenos," not the more generic Greek word for "young woman." The Septuagint translators, 200+ years before the birth of Christ, and with no inherent belief in a "virgin birth," translated "almah" in Isaiah 7:14 as "virgin," not "young woman." This gives evidence that "virgin" is a possible, even likely, meaning of the term.

With all that said, even if the meaning "virgin" is ascribed to "almah" in Isaiah 7:14, does that make Isaiah 7:14 a Messianic prophecy about Jesus, as Matthew 1:23 claims? In the context of Isaiah chapter 7, the Aramites and Israelites were seeking to conquer Jerusalem, and King Ahaz was fearful. The Prophet Isaiah approaches King Ahaz and declares that Aram and Israel would not be successful in conquering Jerusalem (verses 7-9). The Lord offers Ahaz the opportunity to receive a sign (verse 10), but Ahaz refuses to put God to the test (verse 11). God responds by giving the sign Ahaz should look for, "the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son...but before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste." In this prophecy, God is essentially saying that within a few years' time, Israel and Aram will be destroyed. At first glace, Isaiah 7:14 has no connection with a promised virgin birth of the Messiah. However, the Apostle Matthew, writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, connects the virgin birth of Jesus (Matthew 1:23) with the prophecy in Isaiah 7:14. Therefore, Isaiah 7:14 should be understood as being a "double prophecy," referring primarily to the situation King Ahaz was facing, but secondarily to the coming Messiah who would be the ultimate deliverer.


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CeriseRose, I am not in disagreement with God's word. I am in disagreement with the doctrines of men.


What does the holy ghost have to say about what I wrote?


Matthew 10:16-20
New International Version (NIV)

16 “I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. 17 Be on your guard; you will be handed over to the local councils and be flogged in the synagogues. 18 On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 20 for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

1 Corinthians 4
New International Version (NIV)

1 This, then, is how you ought to regard us: as servants of Christ and as those entrusted with the mysteries God has revealed. 2 Now it is required that those who have been given a trust must prove faithful. 3 I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself. 4 My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. 5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God.
6 Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, “Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other. 7 For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?

8 Already you have all you want! Already you have become rich! You have begun to reign—and that without us! How I wish that you really had begun to reign so that we also might reign with you! 9 For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like those condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to human beings. 10 We are fools for Christ, but you are so wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are honored, we are dishonored! 11 To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless. 12 We work hard with our own hands. When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it; 13 when we are slandered, we answer kindly. We have become the scum of the earth, the garbage of the world—right up to this moment.

14 I am writing this not to shame you but to warn you as my dear children. 15 Even if you had ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel. 16 Therefore I urge you to imitate me. 17 For this reason I have sent to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.
18 Some of you have become arrogant, as if I were not coming to you. 19 But I will come to you very soon, if the Lord is willing, and then I will find out not only how these arrogant people are talking, but what power they have. 20 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power. 21 What do you prefer? Shall I come to you with a rod of discipline, or shall I come in love and with a gentle spirit?

The Roman goverment took liberties. As well as King James.


http://www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html

http://www.gotquestions.org/pagan-Christianity.html



And which Timothy passage? I'm fairly sure I addressed that concept well.

"Hell", is a translation from from 3 separate words.


Sheol is one of those. The translators choose "the grave" or "hell" depending on who died. In the OT, righteous people have gone there...

Gehenna, is a burning garbage dump near Jerusalem. Often used as a metaphor of destruction against some societies.

Hades is from the Greek myth where all the dead go. Tartaroo was believed by the Greeks to be where the worst people are imprisoned.


Even if this doesn't convince anyone that hell is made up, it's not eternal! Aion is the Greek word which means "an age" or eon. Aidios(sp?) is the Greek word that means eternity.






No, this contradicts your interpretation. Don't worry though, the Bible does say that every knee will bow and every tounge will confess, so obviously he is the only way according to scripture.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%202&version=NIV

Read that ^^^^^ I would have to think that anyone who doesn't have the law doesn't know Jesus (yet).

Read the New Testament, Peter.

Pray and ask God for understanding.

Believe.

The Jews and scholars agree that Moses most likely did NOT write the OT. These were from 2 different known sources that were combined. Ask any Rabbi.

Jeremiah 17:9
New International Version (NIV)

9 The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?


Good question. Do you know what the answer is?


Jeremiah 17:10
New International Version (NIV)

10 “I the LORD search the heart
and examine the mind,
to reward each person according to their conduct,
according to what their deeds deserve.”




2 Corinthians 5
New International Version (NIV)

Awaiting the New Body
1 For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. 2 Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, 3 because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. 4 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
6 Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. 7 For we live by faith, not by sight. 8 We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. 9 So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.

The Ministry of Reconciliation
11 Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade others. What we are is plain to God, and I hope it is also plain to your conscience. 12 We are not trying to commend ourselves to you again, but are giving you an opportunity to take pride in us, so that you can answer those who take pride in what is seen rather than in what is in the heart. 13 If we are “out of our mind,” as some say, it is for God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you. 14 For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died. 15 And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.
16 So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here! 18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. 20 We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. 21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

PeterPan?

That scripture is talking about Jesus .


Jesus became sin for us so we would not have to carry the

burden of our sins anymore..and all we need to do is

believe and accept JESUS by faith... with a willing

sincere heart ..and then we become born again, and become

the righteousness of God.


Then all our sins are forgiven..under the blood.

Peterpan, we cannot save our selves..NOR can we pay the price

for our sins...Jesus already paid the price in full on that cross

at calvary...Jesus just asks that we receive Him by Faith and

willingly , into our hearts.....


PeterPan?

Receive the free gift of grace Jesus offered.....and don't let the

devil lie to you anymore ,PeterPan..he is a liar and just

wants to keep you in the dark..but I am believing you will see

The Truth now, and the Truth will set you Free!!!

Luke 9:46-50
New International Version (NIV)

46 An argument started among the disciples as to which of them would be the greatest. 47 Jesus, knowing their thoughts, took a little child and had him stand beside him. 48 Then he said to them, “Whoever welcomes this little child in my name welcomes me; and whoever welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me. For it is the one who is least among you all who is the greatest.”

49 “Master,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.”

50 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”

Proverbs 18:17
New International Version (NIV)

17 In a lawsuit the first to speak seems right,
until someone comes forward and cross-examines.

Always cross-examine...to be sure what is said

comes from God.

But MorningSong, that goes against what you've been saying.

You keep saying that only the Holy Ghost can interpret things for you.




I've had God's Law since I was born.
I thank him for my gifts and trust in Him. Don't think otherwise...