Topic: WHAT IS THE TRINITY ?
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Tue 01/24/12 08:28 AM

I love Jesus with all my heart, soul, mind, and body. I am very greatful Jesus has mercy on what I lack. Mistakes and following all of Jesus' teachings have almost nothing to do with one another. I am still merely a mortal man, I still am confined by this flesh, I still make mistakes. But when a mistake is made that is why either I correct it or someone else corrects me. It is not left with that error, only you remain with the error Funches lol. Only you stay there, the rest of us move on when the error is corrected. It's called learning.


can you name the teachings of jesus if any that you personally follow everyday minus the ten commandment which came from the father....

show the heathens how much you love Jesus ...or don't love him


CowboyGH's photo
Tue 01/24/12 08:31 AM


I love Jesus with all my heart, soul, mind, and body. I am very greatful Jesus has mercy on what I lack. Mistakes and following all of Jesus' teachings have almost nothing to do with one another. I am still merely a mortal man, I still am confined by this flesh, I still make mistakes. But when a mistake is made that is why either I correct it or someone else corrects me. It is not left with that error, only you remain with the error Funches lol. Only you stay there, the rest of us move on when the error is corrected. It's called learning.


can you name the teachings of jesus if any that you personally follow everyday minus the ten commandment which came from the father....

show the heathens how much you love Jesus ...or don't love him




To some it up, Jesus taught us to love one another unconditionally as he does. Why do you think I spend so much time in this forum? It is not to specifically spread what I believe, it is to teach people the love of our Christ, Jesus. And to learn new things as I have done much of in my time in this forum.

His teachings would consist of but not limited to -
No stealing
No lying
No fighting
To love others even after they have done you wrong
No killing

And so much more. To sum it all up, he taught us to love one another.

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Tue 01/24/12 08:32 AM





How would I be a hypocrite? Why always trying to make it so personal? Why all the insinuation and insults? I use the KJV because that is what a great majority of people use. So it's easier to discuss the scriptures using something most everyone atleast knows about.


dude just recently you were hurling personal insults at me and I didn't whine...so grow a pair and close the pie-hole


So now we resort to lying? I have said no insults.



POSTED BY COWBOY;
Don't worry about it man. That's all funches does come here to do, is argue. He's not here to discuss. If the scriptures claim the sky is blue, he would ague up and down that it's green, not literally, just an example of what Funches does here.


you lie so much that you can't remember the things you posts

now that we got that settle..let's move on crybaby


That's not a lie or an insult. It's what you come to do. You only deny the Christian faith, you don't offer another view of what you believe to be true. You only reject, reject, belittle, reject, and more belittling.


wow..still with the insults....

ok now I'm going to cry like you

Boo Hoo...Sob Sob.....Boo Hoo

ok...if you're finishing venting let's get back on topic

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Tue 01/24/12 08:35 AM






How would I be a hypocrite? Why always trying to make it so personal? Why all the insinuation and insults? I use the KJV because that is what a great majority of people use. So it's easier to discuss the scriptures using something most everyone atleast knows about.


dude just recently you were hurling personal insults at me and I didn't whine...so grow a pair and close the pie-hole


So now we resort to lying? I have said no insults.



POSTED BY COWBOY;
Don't worry about it man. That's all funches does come here to do, is argue. He's not here to discuss. If the scriptures claim the sky is blue, he would ague up and down that it's green, not literally, just an example of what Funches does here.


you lie so much that you can't remember the things you posts

now that we got that settle..let's move on crybaby


That's not a lie or an insult. It's what you come to do. You only deny the Christian faith, you don't offer another view of what you believe to be true. You only reject, reject, belittle, reject, and more belittling.


wow..still with the insults....

ok now I'm going to cry like you

Boo Hoo...Sob Sob.....Boo Hoo

ok...if you're finishing venting let's get back on topic


Mind elaborating on how that was an insult? I did not say your beliefs were false, I did not say anything insulting about you or your beliefs. Mainly because we do not know your beliefs, only what you don't believe which you continuously state.

If you do not believe in the Christian faith and see absolutely no way how they could be true, why do you continuously troll in the threads about Christianity?

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Tue 01/24/12 08:38 AM

No, would not be a hypocrite quoting from it. Most people use the KJV, so I use it so they know what I'm talking about.


if you claim that the bible is not the true word of God then you should be steering users away from the KJV not use it as a source to preach false their gospel

you are supposed to show your Faith in works...how is using an bible you deem to be inadequate of God's true word possibly be in the grace of your God

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Tue 01/24/12 08:41 AM



I love Jesus with all my heart, soul, mind, and body. I am very greatful Jesus has mercy on what I lack. Mistakes and following all of Jesus' teachings have almost nothing to do with one another. I am still merely a mortal man, I still am confined by this flesh, I still make mistakes. But when a mistake is made that is why either I correct it or someone else corrects me. It is not left with that error, only you remain with the error Funches lol. Only you stay there, the rest of us move on when the error is corrected. It's called learning.


can you name the teachings of jesus if any that you personally follow everyday minus the ten commandment which came from the father....

show the heathens how much you love Jesus ...or don't love him




To some it up, Jesus taught us to love one another unconditionally as he does. Why do you think I spend so much time in this forum? It is not to specifically spread what I believe, it is to teach people the love of our Christ, Jesus. And to learn new things as I have done much of in my time in this forum.

His teachings would consist of but not limited to -
No stealing
No lying
No fighting
To love others even after they have done you wrong
No killing

And so much more. To sum it all up, he taught us to love one another.


dude can't you read..I say minus the ten commandments ...the commandments are not teachings they are laws

see how it appears that you don't love Jesus enough to even learn his teachings

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 01/24/12 08:42 AM


No, would not be a hypocrite quoting from it. Most people use the KJV, so I use it so they know what I'm talking about.


if you claim that the bible is not the true word of God then you should be steering users away from the KJV not use it as a source to preach false their gospel

you are supposed to show your Faith in works...how is using an bible you deem to be inadequate of God's true word possibly be in the grace of your God


Will not continue with this until it returns to the topic of the thread. This is not discussing any religion or any belief.

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 01/24/12 08:44 AM




I love Jesus with all my heart, soul, mind, and body. I am very greatful Jesus has mercy on what I lack. Mistakes and following all of Jesus' teachings have almost nothing to do with one another. I am still merely a mortal man, I still am confined by this flesh, I still make mistakes. But when a mistake is made that is why either I correct it or someone else corrects me. It is not left with that error, only you remain with the error Funches lol. Only you stay there, the rest of us move on when the error is corrected. It's called learning.


can you name the teachings of jesus if any that you personally follow everyday minus the ten commandment which came from the father....

show the heathens how much you love Jesus ...or don't love him




To some it up, Jesus taught us to love one another unconditionally as he does. Why do you think I spend so much time in this forum? It is not to specifically spread what I believe, it is to teach people the love of our Christ, Jesus. And to learn new things as I have done much of in my time in this forum.

His teachings would consist of but not limited to -
No stealing
No lying
No fighting
To love others even after they have done you wrong
No killing

And so much more. To sum it all up, he taught us to love one another.


dude can't you read..I say minus the ten commandments ...the commandments are not teachings they are laws

see how it appears that you don't love Jesus enough to even learn his teachings


They are teachings of Jesus. Jesus' teachings were commandments, Jesus was not a "prophet" or a "messenger" Jesus is God and came to fulfill the old covenant and give us a new. And inside of that covenant lays commandments/laws. Jesus wasn't teaching an already known set of knowledge's. Jesus was giving us a new set of knowledge eg., a new covenant.

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Tue 01/24/12 08:46 AM

If you do not believe in the Christian faith and see absolutely no way how they could be true, why do you continuously troll in the threads about Christianity?


didn't "MorningSong" a "Christian" say the same about you



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Tue 01/24/12 08:49 AM





I love Jesus with all my heart, soul, mind, and body. I am very greatful Jesus has mercy on what I lack. Mistakes and following all of Jesus' teachings have almost nothing to do with one another. I am still merely a mortal man, I still am confined by this flesh, I still make mistakes. But when a mistake is made that is why either I correct it or someone else corrects me. It is not left with that error, only you remain with the error Funches lol. Only you stay there, the rest of us move on when the error is corrected. It's called learning.


can you name the teachings of jesus if any that you personally follow everyday minus the ten commandment which came from the father....

show the heathens how much you love Jesus ...or don't love him




To some it up, Jesus taught us to love one another unconditionally as he does. Why do you think I spend so much time in this forum? It is not to specifically spread what I believe, it is to teach people the love of our Christ, Jesus. And to learn new things as I have done much of in my time in this forum.

His teachings would consist of but not limited to -
No stealing
No lying
No fighting
To love others even after they have done you wrong
No killing

And so much more. To sum it all up, he taught us to love one another.


dude can't you read..I say minus the ten commandments ...the commandments are not teachings they are laws

see how it appears that you don't love Jesus enough to even learn his teachings


They are teachings of Jesus. Jesus' teachings were commandments, Jesus was not a "prophet" or a "messenger" Jesus is God and came to fulfill the old covenant and give us a new. And inside of that covenant lays commandments/laws. Jesus wasn't teaching an already known set of knowledge's. Jesus was giving us a new set of knowledge eg., a new covenant.


the ten commandments is not a new set of knowledge...they were here before Jesus showed up...that is why they are commandments and not his teachings.....

as I suspected...you do not follow the teachings of Jesus because you have no clue as to what they are


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Tue 01/24/12 08:52 AM



No, would not be a hypocrite quoting from it. Most people use the KJV, so I use it so they know what I'm talking about.


if you claim that the bible is not the true word of God then you should be steering users away from the KJV not use it as a source to preach false their gospel

you are supposed to show your Faith in works...how is using an bible you deem to be inadequate of God's true word possibly be in the grace of your God


Will not continue with this until it returns to the topic of the thread. This is not discussing any religion or any belief.


you claiming that the bible is only an interpetation of Man's Word and not God's Word is not about religion or belief?

I guess it's about football

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Tue 01/24/12 08:57 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Tue 01/24/12 09:00 AM






I love Jesus with all my heart, soul, mind, and body. I am very greatful Jesus has mercy on what I lack. Mistakes and following all of Jesus' teachings have almost nothing to do with one another. I am still merely a mortal man, I still am confined by this flesh, I still make mistakes. But when a mistake is made that is why either I correct it or someone else corrects me. It is not left with that error, only you remain with the error Funches lol. Only you stay there, the rest of us move on when the error is corrected. It's called learning.


can you name the teachings of jesus if any that you personally follow everyday minus the ten commandment which came from the father....

show the heathens how much you love Jesus ...or don't love him




To some it up, Jesus taught us to love one another unconditionally as he does. Why do you think I spend so much time in this forum? It is not to specifically spread what I believe, it is to teach people the love of our Christ, Jesus. And to learn new things as I have done much of in my time in this forum.

His teachings would consist of but not limited to -
No stealing
No lying
No fighting
To love others even after they have done you wrong
No killing

And so much more. To sum it all up, he taught us to love one another.


dude can't you read..I say minus the ten commandments ...the commandments are not teachings they are laws

see how it appears that you don't love Jesus enough to even learn his teachings


They are teachings of Jesus. Jesus' teachings were commandments, Jesus was not a "prophet" or a "messenger" Jesus is God and came to fulfill the old covenant and give us a new. And inside of that covenant lays commandments/laws. Jesus wasn't teaching an already known set of knowledge's. Jesus was giving us a new set of knowledge eg., a new covenant.


the ten commandments is not a new set of knowledge...they were here before Jesus showed up...that is why they are commandments and not his teachings.....

as I suspected...you do not follow the teachings of Jesus because you have no clue as to what they are




Jesus taught more then the 10 commandments. He taught 613 to be exact. But these two sum up entirely all of Jesus' commandments.

Matthew 22

37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38This is the first and great commandment.

39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

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Tue 01/24/12 08:59 AM




No, would not be a hypocrite quoting from it. Most people use the KJV, so I use it so they know what I'm talking about.


if you claim that the bible is not the true word of God then you should be steering users away from the KJV not use it as a source to preach false their gospel

you are supposed to show your Faith in works...how is using an bible you deem to be inadequate of God's true word possibly be in the grace of your God


Will not continue with this until it returns to the topic of the thread. This is not discussing any religion or any belief.


you claiming that the bible is only an interpetation of Man's Word and not God's Word is not about religion or belief?

I guess it's about football


Did not say it was an interpretation of man's word, man you're on a roll with lying today. The bible is the interpretation of God's word, God's scriptures.

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Tue 01/24/12 09:19 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 01/24/12 09:55 AM
Cowboy wrote:


another thing popped into my mind of why i know Jesus was not God. While on the cross, jesus looked up and prayed Father forgive them for they know not what they do


But you are mistaken in one area i know for sure. Jesus was as much God as you and I. Unless Jesus liked to talk to himself, because Jesus prayed and talked to God many of times through the bible.






According to your statements above that you made earlier,

this once again proves you know a DIFFERENT Jesus fom the Jesus

of the Bible, Cowboy.

Also...you don't believe that Jesus is ONE ENTITY with the Father

and Holy Spirit..or in other words....you do NOT believe that The

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are ONE SUPREME BEING, as the

Bible teaches.


You believe Jesus is just OUR God, BUT you believe Jesus is

an ENTIRELY separate entity ENTIRELY from God the Father.


Also, You believe the Father is JUST Jesus's God, but not Our God.

You believe Jesus is our God only( you beleive we are all Gods, and

Jesus is our own personal God with

authority over us,but not the same entity as the Father and Holy Spirit ).

Point being, with false beliefs like this, NO Salvation took place.


And It can't....cause one has to believe on the REAL JESUS, in

order for SALVATIOM to take place.

And until THEN one can love Jesus with their OLD nature,and even be sincere.....

but will not be able to have JESUS LOVE THRU THAT PERSON OR

LIVING IN THAT PEFSON!!!

Because no regeneration took place yet .


Cowboy..as many born again christians have already told you

( also including CerisrRose, Spider, and myself),believing any ole

way you want to about Jesus,does NOT get you saved.

Until then all you will do, is keep tryng to EARN your way to

heaven, as you are doing on here.

And That is NOT what the gopsel message is about at all.

The gopsel message says that salvation is a FREE gift of Grace

ofered up, with NO works required... or a need to EARN one's

way to heaven ( another one of your incorrect beliefs on here).


Cowboy, this is sooooooo important:

ONLY in believing on and receiving the REAL JESUS , can one be born again.

NOT a new age Jesus, where you believe "you are just as much God

as Jesus is",( like you said in your statement above).


This is WHY there is NO LIFE in your words spoken on here

Cowboy...cause you are not sharing the TRUE Word of God, bur ONLY

your OWN VERSION of the Word.


NOTHING MORE.


JUST WORDS OF TRYING TO EARN ONE'S WAY THRU RELIGIOUS WORKS.

Tht is why nothing has happened in your 3 year long

conversatuon with Funches..and never will.

Dead words produce no fruit.

That is why one final time, I am asking you to spend time in

the Word before sharing it on here.

You are spreading error after error after errror on this forum.

Even on this thread.

And I realize it is ONLY because the Holy Spirt does Not yet

reside in you...so at least I do understand why you do this now.


And I am being as honest as I can...and still praying that the

true Gospel messagee will be revealed to you .....but you have to

WANT to know the Truth first.

God will not intrude and shove the Truth doen your throat.

But He will draw you and convict you...and that is my hope for you.

But God knows the right time this is to be...God first waits for

you to be WILLING to want to know the REAL Jesus.

Yes...the REAL Jesus, Cowboy.....

The One Who Is ONLY ONE ENTITY with the Father and the Holy Spirit .

GOD , Who is just ONE SUPREME BEING ,

NOT just a government,

of The Father and Jesus and Holy Spirit being all different

entities,as YOU believe.


However, I am still praying that You WILL know the Truth, and the

Truth will set you free from this new age false teaching that has

gotten a hold of you somehow.

Amen.



:heart::heart::heart:


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Tue 01/24/12 09:29 AM

Cowboy wrote:


another thing popped into my mind of why i know Jesus was not God. While on the cross, jesus looked up and prayed Father forgive them for they know not what they do


But you are mistaken in one area i know for sure. Jesus was as much God as you and I. Unless Jesus liked to talk to himself, because Jesus prayed and talked to God many of times through the bible.






According to your statements above that you made earlier,

this once again proves you know a DIFFERENT Jesus fom the Jesus

of the Bible, Cowboy.

Also...you don't believe that Jesus is ONE ENTITY with the Father

and Holy Spirit..or in other words....you do NOT believe that The

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are ONE SUPREME BEING, as the

Bible teaches.


You just believe Jesus is just OUR God, BUT you believe Jesus is

an ENTIRELY separate entity ENTIRELY from God the Father.

Also, You believe the Father is JUST Jesus's God, but not Our God.

You believe Jesus is our God only( our own personal God with

authority over us ).

Point being, with false beliefs like this, NO Salvation took place.


And It can't....cause one has to believe on the REAL JESUS, in

order for SALVATIOM to take place.

And until THEN one can love Jesus with their OLD nature,and even be sincere.....

but not be abl to have JESUS LOVE THRU THAT PERSON OR LIVING IN THAT PEFSON!!!

Because no regeneration took place yet .


Cowboy..as many born again christians have already told you

( also including CerisrRose, Spider, and myself),believing any ole

way you want to about Jesus,does NOT get you saved.

Until then all you will do, is keep tryng to EARN your way to heaven, as you are doing on here.

And That is NOT what the gopsel message is about at all.

The gopsel message says that salvation is a FREE gift of Grece

ofered up, with NO works required... or a need to EARN one's

way to heaven ( another one of your incorrect beliefs on here).


Cowboy, this is sooooooo important:

ONLY in believing on and receiving the REAL JESUS , can one be born again.

NOT a new age Jesus, wher you beleive "you are just as much God

as Jesus is",( like you said in your statement above).


This is WHY there is NO LIFE in your words spoeken on here

Cowboy...caue you are not sharing the TRUE Word of God, bur ONLY

your OWN VERSION of the Word.


NOTHING MORE.


JUST WORDS OF TRYING TO EARN ONE'S WAY THRU RELIGIOUS WORKS.

Tht is why nothing has happened in your 3 year long conversatuon with Funches..and never will.

Dead words produce no fruit.

That is why one final time, I am asking you to spend time in the Word before sharing it on here.

You are spreading error after error after errror on this forum.

Even on this thread.

And I realize it is ONLY becaue the Holy Spirt does Not yet

reside in you...so at leart I do understand why you do this now.


And I am being as honest as I can...and stil praying that the

true Gospel messagee will be revealed to yuo .....but you have to

WANT to know the Truth first.

God will not intrude and shove the truth doen your throat.

But he will draw you and convict you...and that is my hope for you.

But God knows the right time this is to be...God first waits for

you to be WILLING to want to know the REAL Jesus.

Yes...the REAL Jesus, Cowboy.....

The One Who Is ONLY ONE ENTITY with the Father and the Holy Spirit .

GOD , Who is just ONE SUPREME BEING ,

NOT just a government,

of The Father and Jesus and Holy Spirit being all different

entities,as YOU believe.


However, I am still praying that You WILL know the Truth, and the

Truth will set you free from this new age false teaching that has

gotten a hold of you somehow.

Amen.



:heart::heart::heart:





According to your statements above that you made earlier,

this once again proves you know a DIFFERENT Jesus fom the Jesus

of the Bible, Cowboy.


Please enlighten us to exactly what post this is from, so we can check to see just how long ago I said this. Again as I've said many of times, I've learned differently now. It's only you guys still living in the past.

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 01/24/12 09:33 AM

Cowboy wrote:


another thing popped into my mind of why i know Jesus was not God. While on the cross, jesus looked up and prayed Father forgive them for they know not what they do


But you are mistaken in one area i know for sure. Jesus was as much God as you and I. Unless Jesus liked to talk to himself, because Jesus prayed and talked to God many of times through the bible.






According to your statements above that you made earlier,

this once again proves you know a DIFFERENT Jesus fom the Jesus

of the Bible, Cowboy.

Also...you don't believe that Jesus is ONE ENTITY with the Father

and Holy Spirit..or in other words....you do NOT believe that The

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are ONE SUPREME BEING, as the

Bible teaches.


You just believe Jesus is just OUR God, BUT you believe Jesus is

an ENTIRELY separate entity ENTIRELY from God the Father.

Also, You believe the Father is JUST Jesus's God, but not Our God.

You believe Jesus is our God only( you beleive we are all Gods, and

Jesus is our own personal God with

authority over us,but not the same entity as the father and holy Sprit ).

Point being, with false beliefs like this, NO Salvation took place.


And It can't....cause one has to believe on the REAL JESUS, in

order for SALVATIOM to take place.

And until THEN one can love Jesus with their OLD nature,and even be sincere.....

but not be abl to have JESUS LOVE THRU THAT PERSON OR LIVING IN THAT PEFSON!!!

Because no regeneration took place yet .


Cowboy..as many born again christians have already told you

( also including CerisrRose, Spider, and myself),believing any ole

way you want to about Jesus,does NOT get you saved.

Until then all you will do, is keep tryng to EARN your way to heaven, as you are doing on here.

And That is NOT what the gopsel message is about at all.

The gopsel message says that salvation is a FREE gift of Grece

ofered up, with NO works required... or a need to EARN one's

way to heaven ( another one of your incorrect beliefs on here).


Cowboy, this is sooooooo important:

ONLY in believing on and receiving the REAL JESUS , can one be born again.

NOT a new age Jesus, wher you beleive "you are just as much God

as Jesus is",( like you said in your statement above).


This is WHY there is NO LIFE in your words spoeken on here

Cowboy...caue you are not sharing the TRUE Word of God, bur ONLY

your OWN VERSION of the Word.


NOTHING MORE.


JUST WORDS OF TRYING TO EARN ONE'S WAY THRU RELIGIOUS WORKS.

Tht is why nothing has happened in your 3 year long conversatuon with Funches..and never will.

Dead words produce no fruit.

That is why one final time, I am asking you to spend time in the Word before sharing it on here.

You are spreading error after error after errror on this forum.

Even on this thread.

And I realize it is ONLY becaue the Holy Spirt does Not yet

reside in you...so at leart I do understand why you do this now.


And I am being as honest as I can...and stil praying that the

true Gospel messagee will be revealed to yuo .....but you have to

WANT to know the Truth first.

God will not intrude and shove the truth doen your throat.

But he will draw you and convict you...and that is my hope for you.

But God knows the right time this is to be...God first waits for

you to be WILLING to want to know the REAL Jesus.

Yes...the REAL Jesus, Cowboy.....

The One Who Is ONLY ONE ENTITY with the Father and the Holy Spirit .

GOD , Who is just ONE SUPREME BEING ,

NOT just a government,

of The Father and Jesus and Holy Spirit being all different

entities,as YOU believe.


However, I am still praying that You WILL know the Truth, and the

Truth will set you free from this new age false teaching that has

gotten a hold of you somehow.

Amen.



:heart::heart::heart:





Cowboy..as many born again christians have already told you

( also including CerisrRose, Spider, and myself),believing any ole

way you want to about Jesus,does NOT get you saved.

Until then all you will do, is keep tryng to EARN your way to heaven, as you are doing on here.

And That is NOT what the gopsel message is about at all.

The gopsel message says that salvation is a FREE gift of Grece

ofered up, with NO works required... or a need to EARN one's

way to heaven ( another one of your incorrect beliefs on here).


You're about as far in left field as Funches. I'm not trying to earn my way into anything, Heaven is not earned it is a free gift given through the grace of God.

And no it is not another incorrect belief of mine on there, I no longer believe exactly that.

Why are you spreading lies?

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 01/24/12 09:35 AM

Cowboy wrote:


another thing popped into my mind of why i know Jesus was not God. While on the cross, jesus looked up and prayed Father forgive them for they know not what they do


But you are mistaken in one area i know for sure. Jesus was as much God as you and I. Unless Jesus liked to talk to himself, because Jesus prayed and talked to God many of times through the bible.






According to your statements above that you made earlier,

this once again proves you know a DIFFERENT Jesus fom the Jesus

of the Bible, Cowboy.

Also...you don't believe that Jesus is ONE ENTITY with the Father

and Holy Spirit..or in other words....you do NOT believe that The

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are ONE SUPREME BEING, as the

Bible teaches.


You just believe Jesus is just OUR God, BUT you believe Jesus is

an ENTIRELY separate entity ENTIRELY from God the Father.

Also, You believe the Father is JUST Jesus's God, but not Our God.

You believe Jesus is our God only( you beleive we are all Gods, and

Jesus is our own personal God with

authority over us,but not the same entity as the father and holy Sprit ).

Point being, with false beliefs like this, NO Salvation took place.


And It can't....cause one has to believe on the REAL JESUS, in

order for SALVATIOM to take place.

And until THEN one can love Jesus with their OLD nature,and even be sincere.....

but not be abl to have JESUS LOVE THRU THAT PERSON OR LIVING IN THAT PEFSON!!!

Because no regeneration took place yet .


Cowboy..as many born again christians have already told you

( also including CerisrRose, Spider, and myself),believing any ole

way you want to about Jesus,does NOT get you saved.

Until then all you will do, is keep tryng to EARN your way to heaven, as you are doing on here.

And That is NOT what the gopsel message is about at all.

The gopsel message says that salvation is a FREE gift of Grece

ofered up, with NO works required... or a need to EARN one's

way to heaven ( another one of your incorrect beliefs on here).


Cowboy, this is sooooooo important:

ONLY in believing on and receiving the REAL JESUS , can one be born again.

NOT a new age Jesus, wher you beleive "you are just as much God

as Jesus is",( like you said in your statement above).


This is WHY there is NO LIFE in your words spoeken on here

Cowboy...caue you are not sharing the TRUE Word of God, bur ONLY

your OWN VERSION of the Word.


NOTHING MORE.


JUST WORDS OF TRYING TO EARN ONE'S WAY THRU RELIGIOUS WORKS.

Tht is why nothing has happened in your 3 year long conversatuon with Funches..and never will.

Dead words produce no fruit.

That is why one final time, I am asking you to spend time in the Word before sharing it on here.

You are spreading error after error after errror on this forum.

Even on this thread.

And I realize it is ONLY becaue the Holy Spirt does Not yet

reside in you...so at leart I do understand why you do this now.


And I am being as honest as I can...and stil praying that the

true Gospel messagee will be revealed to yuo .....but you have to

WANT to know the Truth first.

God will not intrude and shove the truth doen your throat.

But he will draw you and convict you...and that is my hope for you.

But God knows the right time this is to be...God first waits for

you to be WILLING to want to know the REAL Jesus.

Yes...the REAL Jesus, Cowboy.....

The One Who Is ONLY ONE ENTITY with the Father and the Holy Spirit .

GOD , Who is just ONE SUPREME BEING ,

NOT just a government,

of The Father and Jesus and Holy Spirit being all different

entities,as YOU believe.


However, I am still praying that You WILL know the Truth, and the

Truth will set you free from this new age false teaching that has

gotten a hold of you somehow.

Amen.



:heart::heart::heart:




Matthew 7

1Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
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I'll pray for you MorningSong.

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Tue 01/24/12 09:35 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 01/24/12 09:38 AM
My point is.....until you believe Jesus is ONE

ENTITY with the Father and Holy Spirit, you CANNOT be Saved.


And the Love of Jesus CANNNOT DWELL in you, UNTIL you are born again..



Jesus can and will stil Love you...yes....and You can still love Jesus with your old nature....yes.....

but HIS Love cannot BE IN you ,UNTIL you are

made brand new/thru SALVATION.


Point being...NONE OF US can love AS Jesus loves...

NONE OF US can love God

first and our neighbor as ourselves, WITH JUST OUR OLD NATURE!!!

That is WHY we must be BORN AGAIN.



:heart::heart::heart:

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 01/24/12 09:37 AM

Cowboy wrote:


another thing popped into my mind of why i know Jesus was not God. While on the cross, jesus looked up and prayed Father forgive them for they know not what they do


But you are mistaken in one area i know for sure. Jesus was as much God as you and I. Unless Jesus liked to talk to himself, because Jesus prayed and talked to God many of times through the bible.






According to your statements above that you made earlier,

this once again proves you know a DIFFERENT Jesus fom the Jesus

of the Bible, Cowboy.

Also...you don't believe that Jesus is ONE ENTITY with the Father

and Holy Spirit..or in other words....you do NOT believe that The

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are ONE SUPREME BEING, as the

Bible teaches.


You just believe Jesus is just OUR God, BUT you believe Jesus is

an ENTIRELY separate entity ENTIRELY from God the Father.

Also, You believe the Father is JUST Jesus's God, but not Our God.

You believe Jesus is our God only( you beleive we are all Gods, and

Jesus is our own personal God with

authority over us,but not the same entity as the father and holy Sprit ).

Point being, with false beliefs like this, NO Salvation took place.


And It can't....cause one has to believe on the REAL JESUS, in

order for SALVATIOM to take place.

And until THEN one can love Jesus with their OLD nature,and even be sincere.....

but not be abl to have JESUS LOVE THRU THAT PERSON OR LIVING IN THAT PEFSON!!!

Because no regeneration took place yet .


Cowboy..as many born again christians have already told you

( also including CerisrRose, Spider, and myself),believing any ole

way you want to about Jesus,does NOT get you saved.

Until then all you will do, is keep tryng to EARN your way to heaven, as you are doing on here.

And That is NOT what the gopsel message is about at all.

The gopsel message says that salvation is a FREE gift of Grece

ofered up, with NO works required... or a need to EARN one's

way to heaven ( another one of your incorrect beliefs on here).


Cowboy, this is sooooooo important:

ONLY in believing on and receiving the REAL JESUS , can one be born again.

NOT a new age Jesus, wher you beleive "you are just as much God

as Jesus is",( like you said in your statement above).


This is WHY there is NO LIFE in your words spoeken on here

Cowboy...caue you are not sharing the TRUE Word of God, bur ONLY

your OWN VERSION of the Word.


NOTHING MORE.


JUST WORDS OF TRYING TO EARN ONE'S WAY THRU RELIGIOUS WORKS.

Tht is why nothing has happened in your 3 year long conversatuon with Funches..and never will.

Dead words produce no fruit.

That is why one final time, I am asking you to spend time in the Word before sharing it on here.

You are spreading error after error after errror on this forum.

Even on this thread.

And I realize it is ONLY becaue the Holy Spirt does Not yet

reside in you...so at leart I do understand why you do this now.


And I am being as honest as I can...and stil praying that the

true Gospel messagee will be revealed to yuo .....but you have to

WANT to know the Truth first.

God will not intrude and shove the truth doen your throat.

But he will draw you and convict you...and that is my hope for you.

But God knows the right time this is to be...God first waits for

you to be WILLING to want to know the REAL Jesus.

Yes...the REAL Jesus, Cowboy.....

The One Who Is ONLY ONE ENTITY with the Father and the Holy Spirit .

GOD , Who is just ONE SUPREME BEING ,

NOT just a government,

of The Father and Jesus and Holy Spirit being all different

entities,as YOU believe.


However, I am still praying that You WILL know the Truth, and the

Truth will set you free from this new age false teaching that has

gotten a hold of you somehow.

Amen.



:heart::heart::heart:





JUST WORDS OF TRYING TO EARN ONE'S WAY THRU RELIGIOUS WORKS.

Tht is why nothing has happened in your 3 year long conversatuon with Funches..and never will.

Dead words produce no fruit.


More lies, not trying to earn anything. Heaven is not earned.

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 01/24/12 09:39 AM

My point is.....until you believe Jesus is ONE

ENTITY with the Father and Holy Spirit, you CANNOT be Saved.


And the Love of Jesus CANNNOT DWELL in you, UNTIL you are born again..



Jesus can and will stil Love you...yes....and You can still love Jesus with your old nature....yes.....

but HIS Love cannot BE IN you ,UNTIL you are

made brand new/thru SALVATION.


Point being...NONE OF US can love AS Jesus loves...

NONE OF US can love God

first and our neighbor as ourselves, WITH JUST OUR OLD NATURE!!!

That is WHY we must be BORN AGAIN.



:heart::heart::heart:



Who says I don't believe that? You are just like funches in that area, these things being brought up are from the past, who says I have not learned since then? Who gave you that right to judge another person anywho? Who has given you the right to judge weather one is saved or not.

Matthew 7

1Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
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I'll pray for you MorningSong