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BORN AGAIN CHRSITIANS ARE NOT UNDER LEGALISTIC BONDAGE. BUT FUTHERMORE, BORN AGAN CHRISTIANS ALSO ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE PETTY RELIGIOUS NONSENSE....THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD'S WORD AT ALL...BUT HAS TO DO WITH RELIGIOUS SPIRITS OPERATING THRU A PERSON, AND MISINTERPRETING GOD'S WORD AND LEADING PEOPLE ASTAY ON HERE!!! WHEN YOU BECOME BORN AGAIN , MILES, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THIS: THAT GOD LOOKS UPON THE HEART AND IS NOT CONCERNED IF YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN ARAMAIC OR HEBREW OR ENGLISH OR WHATEVER LANGUAGE..BUT THAT YOU HAVE TRULY RECEIVED HIM INTO YOUR HEART. THAT IS WHAT TRULY MATTERS TO GOD...NOT THAT YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE !!! RELIGIOUS NONSENSE IS GONNA STOP ON HERE !!! You know MS you Don't have the Holy Spirit and I can prove it by your attitude. You dish it out but can not take it.. When u do not understand you claim the 5th.. which in your case is Ypou don't have the Holy Spirit but MS does. The only way someone can be born again is if they agree and listen to MORNINGSONG.. Are you JC? I think so.. Cowboy has never said such arragance as you ever on here. You can not read minds so stop telling everyone you are so RIGHTEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The first letter in the name Yeshua ("Jesus") is the yod. Yod represents the "Y" sound in Hebrew. Many names in the Bible that begin with yod are mispronounced by English speakers because the yod in these names was transliterated in English Bibles with the letter "J" rather than "Y". This came about because in early English the letter "J" was pronounced the way we pronounce "Y" today. All proper names in the Old Testament were transliterated into English according to their Hebrew pronunciation, but when English pronunciation shifted to what we know today, these transliterations were not altered. Thus, such Hebrew place names as ye-ru-sha-LA-yim, ye-ri-HO, and yar-DEN have become known to us as Jerusalem, Jericho, and Jordan; and Hebrew personal names such as yo-NA, yi-SHAI, and ye-SHU-a have become known to us as Jonah, Jesse, and Jesus. Ok cowboy. The KJV has been corrected in the last 50 years.. case in point.. How did they mess this up if it were not deliberate? Heb 4:8 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. KJV Heb 4:8 8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. NKJV Joshua the son of NUn and Yahshua had the exact same name.. How did the KJV get this mixed up and what about everywhere else the name is used? |
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BORN AGAIN CHRSITIANS ARE NOT UNDER LEGALISTIC BONDAGE. BUT FUTHERMORE, BORN AGAN CHRISTIANS ALSO ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE PETTY RELIGIOUS NONSENSE....THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD'S WORD AT ALL...BUT HAS TO DO WITH RELIGIOUS SPIRITS OPERATING THRU A PERSON, AND MISINTERPRETING GOD'S WORD AND LEADING PEOPLE ASTAY ON HERE!!! WHEN YOU BECOME BORN AGAIN , MILES, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THIS: THAT GOD LOOKS UPON THE HEART AND IS NOT CONCERNED IF YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN ARAMAIC OR HEBREW OR ENGLISH OR WHATEVER LANGUAGE..BUT THAT YOU HAVE TRULY RECEIVED HIM INTO YOUR HEART. THAT IS WHAT TRULY MATTERS TO GOD...NOT THAT YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE !!! RELIGIOUS NONSENSE IS GONNA STOP ON HERE !!! You know MS you Don't have the Holy Spirit and I can prove it by your attitude. You dish it out but can not take it.. When u do not understand you claim the 5th.. which in your case is Ypou don't have the Holy Spirit but MS does. The only way someone can be born again is if they agree and listen to MORNINGSONG.. Are you JC? I think so.. Cowboy has never said such arragance as you ever on here. You can not read minds so stop telling everyone you are so RIGHTEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The first letter in the name Yeshua ("Jesus") is the yod. Yod represents the "Y" sound in Hebrew. Many names in the Bible that begin with yod are mispronounced by English speakers because the yod in these names was transliterated in English Bibles with the letter "J" rather than "Y". This came about because in early English the letter "J" was pronounced the way we pronounce "Y" today. All proper names in the Old Testament were transliterated into English according to their Hebrew pronunciation, but when English pronunciation shifted to what we know today, these transliterations were not altered. Thus, such Hebrew place names as ye-ru-sha-LA-yim, ye-ri-HO, and yar-DEN have become known to us as Jerusalem, Jericho, and Jordan; and Hebrew personal names such as yo-NA, yi-SHAI, and ye-SHU-a have become known to us as Jonah, Jesse, and Jesus. Ok cowboy. The KJV has been corrected in the last 50 years.. case in point.. How did they mess this up if it were not deliberate? Heb 4:8 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. KJV Heb 4:8 8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. NKJV Joshua the son of NUn and Yahshua had the exact same name.. How did the KJV get this mixed up and what about everywhere else the name is used? Joshua in hebrew - יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Jesus in hebrew - ישוע Not the same. |
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BORN AGAIN CHRSITIANS ARE NOT UNDER LEGALISTIC BONDAGE. BUT FUTHERMORE, BORN AGAN CHRISTIANS ALSO ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE PETTY RELIGIOUS NONSENSE....THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD'S WORD AT ALL...BUT HAS TO DO WITH RELIGIOUS SPIRITS OPERATING THRU A PERSON, AND MISINTERPRETING GOD'S WORD AND LEADING PEOPLE ASTAY ON HERE!!! WHEN YOU BECOME BORN AGAIN , MILES, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THIS: THAT GOD LOOKS UPON THE HEART AND IS NOT CONCERNED IF YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN ARAMAIC OR HEBREW OR ENGLISH OR WHATEVER LANGUAGE..BUT THAT YOU HAVE TRULY RECEIVED HIM INTO YOUR HEART. THAT IS WHAT TRULY MATTERS TO GOD...NOT THAT YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE !!! RELIGIOUS NONSENSE IS GONNA STOP ON HERE !!! You know MS you Don't have the Holy Spirit and I can prove it by your attitude. You dish it out but can not take it.. When u do not understand you claim the 5th.. which in your case is Ypou don't have the Holy Spirit but MS does. The only way someone can be born again is if they agree and listen to MORNINGSONG.. Are you JC? I think so.. Cowboy has never said such arragance as you ever on here. You can not read minds so stop telling everyone you are so RIGHTEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The first letter in the name Yeshua ("Jesus") is the yod. Yod represents the "Y" sound in Hebrew. Many names in the Bible that begin with yod are mispronounced by English speakers because the yod in these names was transliterated in English Bibles with the letter "J" rather than "Y". This came about because in early English the letter "J" was pronounced the way we pronounce "Y" today. All proper names in the Old Testament were transliterated into English according to their Hebrew pronunciation, but when English pronunciation shifted to what we know today, these transliterations were not altered. Thus, such Hebrew place names as ye-ru-sha-LA-yim, ye-ri-HO, and yar-DEN have become known to us as Jerusalem, Jericho, and Jordan; and Hebrew personal names such as yo-NA, yi-SHAI, and ye-SHU-a have become known to us as Jonah, Jesse, and Jesus. Ok cowboy. The KJV has been corrected in the last 50 years.. case in point.. How did they mess this up if it were not deliberate? Heb 4:8 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. KJV Heb 4:8 8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. NKJV Joshua the son of NUn and Yahshua had the exact same name.. How did the KJV get this mixed up and what about everywhere else the name is used? Joshua in hebrew - יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Jesus in hebrew - ישוע Not the same. And Yahshua in hebrew is Yahshua. |
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BORN AGAIN CHRSITIANS ARE NOT UNDER LEGALISTIC BONDAGE. BUT FUTHERMORE, BORN AGAN CHRISTIANS ALSO ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE PETTY RELIGIOUS NONSENSE....THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD'S WORD AT ALL...BUT HAS TO DO WITH RELIGIOUS SPIRITS OPERATING THRU A PERSON, AND MISINTERPRETING GOD'S WORD AND LEADING PEOPLE ASTAY ON HERE!!! WHEN YOU BECOME BORN AGAIN , MILES, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THIS: THAT GOD LOOKS UPON THE HEART AND IS NOT CONCERNED IF YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN ARAMAIC OR HEBREW OR ENGLISH OR WHATEVER LANGUAGE..BUT THAT YOU HAVE TRULY RECEIVED HIM INTO YOUR HEART. THAT IS WHAT TRULY MATTERS TO GOD...NOT THAT YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE !!! RELIGIOUS NONSENSE IS GONNA STOP ON HERE !!! You know MS you Don't have the Holy Spirit and I can prove it by your attitude. You dish it out but can not take it.. When u do not understand you claim the 5th.. which in your case is Ypou don't have the Holy Spirit but MS does. The only way someone can be born again is if they agree and listen to MORNINGSONG.. Are you JC? I think so.. Cowboy has never said such arragance as you ever on here. You can not read minds so stop telling everyone you are so RIGHTEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The first letter in the name Yeshua ("Jesus") is the yod. Yod represents the "Y" sound in Hebrew. Many names in the Bible that begin with yod are mispronounced by English speakers because the yod in these names was transliterated in English Bibles with the letter "J" rather than "Y". This came about because in early English the letter "J" was pronounced the way we pronounce "Y" today. All proper names in the Old Testament were transliterated into English according to their Hebrew pronunciation, but when English pronunciation shifted to what we know today, these transliterations were not altered. Thus, such Hebrew place names as ye-ru-sha-LA-yim, ye-ri-HO, and yar-DEN have become known to us as Jerusalem, Jericho, and Jordan; and Hebrew personal names such as yo-NA, yi-SHAI, and ye-SHU-a have become known to us as Jonah, Jesse, and Jesus. Ok cowboy. The KJV has been corrected in the last 50 years.. case in point.. How did they mess this up if it were not deliberate? Heb 4:8 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. KJV Heb 4:8 8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. NKJV Joshua the son of NUn and Yahshua had the exact same name.. How did the KJV get this mixed up and what about everywhere else the name is used? Joshua in hebrew - יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Jesus in hebrew - ישוע Not the same. I agree.. But King James had 100 scholars who claimed they all translated the bible seperately into english and this is what supposedly makes the KJV the Authorised version because this could not of happened without the Holy Spirit guiding these 100 scholars. If we read the whole context of Hebrews Chapter 4 the one who is really being spoken of is Joshua the son of Nun.. How could the Holy Spirit of made such a mistake? or was this tradition? Heb 4:1-5:1 :1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. 12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. 14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. 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BORN AGAIN CHRSITIANS ARE NOT UNDER LEGALISTIC BONDAGE. BUT FUTHERMORE, BORN AGAN CHRISTIANS ALSO ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE PETTY RELIGIOUS NONSENSE....THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD'S WORD AT ALL...BUT HAS TO DO WITH RELIGIOUS SPIRITS OPERATING THRU A PERSON, AND MISINTERPRETING GOD'S WORD AND LEADING PEOPLE ASTAY ON HERE!!! WHEN YOU BECOME BORN AGAIN , MILES, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THIS: THAT GOD LOOKS UPON THE HEART AND IS NOT CONCERNED IF YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN ARAMAIC OR HEBREW OR ENGLISH OR WHATEVER LANGUAGE..BUT THAT YOU HAVE TRULY RECEIVED HIM INTO YOUR HEART. THAT IS WHAT TRULY MATTERS TO GOD...NOT THAT YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE !!! RELIGIOUS NONSENSE IS GONNA STOP ON HERE !!! You know MS you Don't have the Holy Spirit and I can prove it by your attitude. You dish it out but can not take it.. When u do not understand you claim the 5th.. which in your case is Ypou don't have the Holy Spirit but MS does. The only way someone can be born again is if they agree and listen to MORNINGSONG.. Are you JC? I think so.. Cowboy has never said such arragance as you ever on here. You can not read minds so stop telling everyone you are so RIGHTEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The first letter in the name Yeshua ("Jesus") is the yod. Yod represents the "Y" sound in Hebrew. Many names in the Bible that begin with yod are mispronounced by English speakers because the yod in these names was transliterated in English Bibles with the letter "J" rather than "Y". This came about because in early English the letter "J" was pronounced the way we pronounce "Y" today. All proper names in the Old Testament were transliterated into English according to their Hebrew pronunciation, but when English pronunciation shifted to what we know today, these transliterations were not altered. Thus, such Hebrew place names as ye-ru-sha-LA-yim, ye-ri-HO, and yar-DEN have become known to us as Jerusalem, Jericho, and Jordan; and Hebrew personal names such as yo-NA, yi-SHAI, and ye-SHU-a have become known to us as Jonah, Jesse, and Jesus. Ok cowboy. The KJV has been corrected in the last 50 years.. case in point.. How did they mess this up if it were not deliberate? Heb 4:8 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. KJV Heb 4:8 8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. NKJV Joshua the son of NUn and Yahshua had the exact same name.. How did the KJV get this mixed up and what about everywhere else the name is used? Joshua in hebrew - יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Jesus in hebrew - ישוע Not the same. I agree.. But King James had 100 scholars who claimed they all translated the bible seperately into english and this is what supposedly makes the KJV the Authorised version because this could not of happened without the Holy Spirit guiding these 100 scholars. If we read the whole context of Hebrews Chapter 4 the one who is really being spoken of is Joshua the son of Nun.. How could the Holy Spirit of made such a mistake? or was this tradition? Heb 4:1-5:1 :1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. 12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. 14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. KJV the one who is really being spoken of is Joshua the son of Nun. How do you figure? |
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BORN AGAIN CHRSITIANS ARE NOT UNDER LEGALISTIC BONDAGE. BUT FUTHERMORE, BORN AGAN CHRISTIANS ALSO ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE PETTY RELIGIOUS NONSENSE....THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD'S WORD AT ALL...BUT HAS TO DO WITH RELIGIOUS SPIRITS OPERATING THRU A PERSON, AND MISINTERPRETING GOD'S WORD AND LEADING PEOPLE ASTAY ON HERE!!! WHEN YOU BECOME BORN AGAIN , MILES, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THIS: THAT GOD LOOKS UPON THE HEART AND IS NOT CONCERNED IF YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN ARAMAIC OR HEBREW OR ENGLISH OR WHATEVER LANGUAGE..BUT THAT YOU HAVE TRULY RECEIVED HIM INTO YOUR HEART. THAT IS WHAT TRULY MATTERS TO GOD...NOT THAT YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE !!! RELIGIOUS NONSENSE IS GONNA STOP ON HERE !!! You know MS you Don't have the Holy Spirit and I can prove it by your attitude. You dish it out but can not take it.. When u do not understand you claim the 5th.. which in your case is Ypou don't have the Holy Spirit but MS does. The only way someone can be born again is if they agree and listen to MORNINGSONG.. Are you JC? I think so.. Cowboy has never said such arragance as you ever on here. You can not read minds so stop telling everyone you are so RIGHTEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The first letter in the name Yeshua ("Jesus") is the yod. Yod represents the "Y" sound in Hebrew. Many names in the Bible that begin with yod are mispronounced by English speakers because the yod in these names was transliterated in English Bibles with the letter "J" rather than "Y". This came about because in early English the letter "J" was pronounced the way we pronounce "Y" today. All proper names in the Old Testament were transliterated into English according to their Hebrew pronunciation, but when English pronunciation shifted to what we know today, these transliterations were not altered. Thus, such Hebrew place names as ye-ru-sha-LA-yim, ye-ri-HO, and yar-DEN have become known to us as Jerusalem, Jericho, and Jordan; and Hebrew personal names such as yo-NA, yi-SHAI, and ye-SHU-a have become known to us as Jonah, Jesse, and Jesus. Ok cowboy. The KJV has been corrected in the last 50 years.. case in point.. How did they mess this up if it were not deliberate? Heb 4:8 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. KJV Heb 4:8 8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. NKJV Joshua the son of NUn and Yahshua had the exact same name.. How did the KJV get this mixed up and what about everywhere else the name is used? Joshua in hebrew - יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Jesus in hebrew - ישוע Not the same. I agree.. But King James had 100 scholars who claimed they all translated the bible seperately into english and this is what supposedly makes the KJV the Authorised version because this could not of happened without the Holy Spirit guiding these 100 scholars. If we read the whole context of Hebrews Chapter 4 the one who is really being spoken of is Joshua the son of Nun.. How could the Holy Spirit of made such a mistake? or was this tradition? Heb 4:1-5:1 :1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. 12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. 14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. KJV 1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. His rest, Jesus' rest. Jesus preached the gospel of the new covenant unto us. Again, how do you figure it's speaking of Joshua? |
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BORN AGAIN CHRSITIANS ARE NOT UNDER LEGALISTIC BONDAGE. BUT FUTHERMORE, BORN AGAN CHRISTIANS ALSO ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE PETTY RELIGIOUS NONSENSE....THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD'S WORD AT ALL...BUT HAS TO DO WITH RELIGIOUS SPIRITS OPERATING THRU A PERSON, AND MISINTERPRETING GOD'S WORD AND LEADING PEOPLE ASTAY ON HERE!!! WHEN YOU BECOME BORN AGAIN , MILES, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THIS: THAT GOD LOOKS UPON THE HEART AND IS NOT CONCERNED IF YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN ARAMAIC OR HEBREW OR ENGLISH OR WHATEVER LANGUAGE..BUT THAT YOU HAVE TRULY RECEIVED HIM INTO YOUR HEART. THAT IS WHAT TRULY MATTERS TO GOD...NOT THAT YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE !!! RELIGIOUS NONSENSE IS GONNA STOP ON HERE !!! You know MS you Don't have the Holy Spirit and I can prove it by your attitude. You dish it out but can not take it.. When u do not understand you claim the 5th.. which in your case is Ypou don't have the Holy Spirit but MS does. The only way someone can be born again is if they agree and listen to MORNINGSONG.. Are you JC? I think so.. Cowboy has never said such arragance as you ever on here. You can not read minds so stop telling everyone you are so RIGHTEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The first letter in the name Yeshua ("Jesus") is the yod. Yod represents the "Y" sound in Hebrew. Many names in the Bible that begin with yod are mispronounced by English speakers because the yod in these names was transliterated in English Bibles with the letter "J" rather than "Y". This came about because in early English the letter "J" was pronounced the way we pronounce "Y" today. All proper names in the Old Testament were transliterated into English according to their Hebrew pronunciation, but when English pronunciation shifted to what we know today, these transliterations were not altered. Thus, such Hebrew place names as ye-ru-sha-LA-yim, ye-ri-HO, and yar-DEN have become known to us as Jerusalem, Jericho, and Jordan; and Hebrew personal names such as yo-NA, yi-SHAI, and ye-SHU-a have become known to us as Jonah, Jesse, and Jesus. Ok cowboy. The KJV has been corrected in the last 50 years.. case in point.. How did they mess this up if it were not deliberate? Heb 4:8 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. KJV Heb 4:8 8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. NKJV Joshua the son of NUn and Yahshua had the exact same name.. How did the KJV get this mixed up and what about everywhere else the name is used? Joshua in hebrew - יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Jesus in hebrew - ישוע Not the same. I agree.. But King James had 100 scholars who claimed they all translated the bible seperately into english and this is what supposedly makes the KJV the Authorised version because this could not of happened without the Holy Spirit guiding these 100 scholars. If we read the whole context of Hebrews Chapter 4 the one who is really being spoken of is Joshua the son of Nun.. How could the Holy Spirit of made such a mistake? or was this tradition? Heb 4:1-5:1 :1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. 12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. 14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. KJV the one who is really being spoken of is Joshua the son of Nun. How do you figure? look at what it says.. Heb 4:8-10 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. KJV 4:8 is a question. Its speaking of the sabbath. Did not the word give us rest on the 7th day? yet it says that JC did not give them rest.. Why? |
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BORN AGAIN CHRSITIANS ARE NOT UNDER LEGALISTIC BONDAGE. BUT FUTHERMORE, BORN AGAN CHRISTIANS ALSO ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE PETTY RELIGIOUS NONSENSE....THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD'S WORD AT ALL...BUT HAS TO DO WITH RELIGIOUS SPIRITS OPERATING THRU A PERSON, AND MISINTERPRETING GOD'S WORD AND LEADING PEOPLE ASTAY ON HERE!!! WHEN YOU BECOME BORN AGAIN , MILES, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THIS: THAT GOD LOOKS UPON THE HEART AND IS NOT CONCERNED IF YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN ARAMAIC OR HEBREW OR ENGLISH OR WHATEVER LANGUAGE..BUT THAT YOU HAVE TRULY RECEIVED HIM INTO YOUR HEART. THAT IS WHAT TRULY MATTERS TO GOD...NOT THAT YOU SAY HIS SON'S NAME IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE !!! RELIGIOUS NONSENSE IS GONNA STOP ON HERE !!! You know MS you Don't have the Holy Spirit and I can prove it by your attitude. You dish it out but can not take it.. When u do not understand you claim the 5th.. which in your case is Ypou don't have the Holy Spirit but MS does. The only way someone can be born again is if they agree and listen to MORNINGSONG.. Are you JC? I think so.. Cowboy has never said such arragance as you ever on here. You can not read minds so stop telling everyone you are so RIGHTEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The first letter in the name Yeshua ("Jesus") is the yod. Yod represents the "Y" sound in Hebrew. Many names in the Bible that begin with yod are mispronounced by English speakers because the yod in these names was transliterated in English Bibles with the letter "J" rather than "Y". This came about because in early English the letter "J" was pronounced the way we pronounce "Y" today. All proper names in the Old Testament were transliterated into English according to their Hebrew pronunciation, but when English pronunciation shifted to what we know today, these transliterations were not altered. Thus, such Hebrew place names as ye-ru-sha-LA-yim, ye-ri-HO, and yar-DEN have become known to us as Jerusalem, Jericho, and Jordan; and Hebrew personal names such as yo-NA, yi-SHAI, and ye-SHU-a have become known to us as Jonah, Jesse, and Jesus. Ok cowboy. The KJV has been corrected in the last 50 years.. case in point.. How did they mess this up if it were not deliberate? Heb 4:8 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. KJV Heb 4:8 8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. NKJV Joshua the son of NUn and Yahshua had the exact same name.. How did the KJV get this mixed up and what about everywhere else the name is used? Joshua in hebrew - יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Jesus in hebrew - ישוע Not the same. I agree.. But King James had 100 scholars who claimed they all translated the bible seperately into english and this is what supposedly makes the KJV the Authorised version because this could not of happened without the Holy Spirit guiding these 100 scholars. If we read the whole context of Hebrews Chapter 4 the one who is really being spoken of is Joshua the son of Nun.. How could the Holy Spirit of made such a mistake? or was this tradition? Heb 4:1-5:1 :1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. 12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. 14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. KJV the one who is really being spoken of is Joshua the son of Nun. How do you figure? look at what it says.. Heb 4:8-10 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. KJV 4:8 is a question. Its speaking of the sabbath. Did not the word give us rest on the 7th day? yet it says that JC did not give them rest.. Why? this now makes more since why he did not speak of another day. Heb 4:8-10 8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. 10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His. NKJV |
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Cowboy wrote:
Again then I ask why so many denominations? Why so many different interpretations? Does that mean only one group is a saved group and all other denominations are wrong? If so, what denomination is correct? And how do you know this denomination is correct over all others? Why would God choose one group to give the knowledge to but not to the others? Been thru this ALSO before many times... ONCE MORE: I am speaking of ALL the denominations who AGREE on the BASIC FUNDAMENTNAL TRUTHS OF GOD'S WORD...AND THAT INCLUDES BELIEVING THAT THE FATHER,SON AND HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE GOD..ONE ENTITY..ONE SUPREME BEING. HOWEVER.... there are some groups who just" call" themselves Christian.... but are not...since they do NOT believe in the DEITY of Jesus Christ ...NOR do they believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirt are ONE ENTITY. There is also a group who just believes in a Christ consciousness.....but that also is not a biblical teaching at all. |
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Miles.....Born again christians have a sabbath
rest now... found in Jesus. You are misinterpreting scripture and taking it out of context. Been also thru this before with you. Not going there again. |
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Cowboy wrote: Again then I ask why so many denominations? Why so many different interpretations? Does that mean only one group is a saved group and all other denominations are wrong? If so, what denomination is correct? And how do you know this denomination is correct over all others? Why would God choose one group to give the knowledge to but not to the others? Been thru this ALSO before many times... ONCE MORE: I am speaking of ALL the denominations who AGREE on the BASIC FUNDAMENTNAL TRUTHS OF GOD'S WORD...AND THAT INCLUDES BELIEVING THAT THE FATHER,SON AND HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE GOD..ONE ENTITY..ONE SUPREME BEING. HOWEVER.... there are some groups who just" call" themselves Christian.... but are not...since they do NOT believe in the DEITY of Jesus Christ ...NOR do they believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirt are ONE ENTITY. There is also a group who just believes in a Christ consciousness.....but that also is not a biblical teaching at all. Why LIE Morningsong? You don't want Biblical Teaching or discussion.. You never have. You want Morningsong PRAISE To BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yet you don't understand what you read because you have to quote a web site all the time for your teachings.. Someone elses studies that you have no idea whats being spoke about.. Ypou found your own religion. Its the MSV Authorised Spirit, Tongue a Wagging, Mouth a Drueling Papas of Rome Confession of Faith |
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You know.. What is up with the world?
Billions of people who say they believe don't really care to know. Faith is a Lifestyle of lifestyles. Beauty upon beauty. Elohim is Alive. We worship him. Desires of the heart. We do not just say and go on. We Believe. Antient knowledge of Everything. People spend fortunes trying to figure out the History of Everything when they can hold it in thier hand. He's got the whole world in his hands. Brings a whole new meaning to the word Life. Not scientific in a word of mathmatical equations but a Branch from the Root of David spreading around the world in a sea of Glass sprouting new Life everywhere it goes. The Tree of life was at the beginning and we see it at the end of the book also. Metephorically absent in our lives. Yet we can learn and spread the blood of grapes smashing them between our toes or enjoying them as a Ceaser? A concept of the Spirit leads those who wish to find the words. A mass knowledge given in a time of great distress to counterfind the oppisite of polar negative reactions of an Atom? The sky is falling a fairy tale we do believe. Learn to live the life. The words will flow naturally.. Blessings of Shalom...Miles |
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Cowboy wrote: Again then I ask why so many denominations? Why so many different interpretations? Does that mean only one group is a saved group and all other denominations are wrong? If so, what denomination is correct? And how do you know this denomination is correct over all others? Why would God choose one group to give the knowledge to but not to the others? Been thru this ALSO before many times... ONCE MORE: I am speaking of ALL the denominations who AGREE on the BASIC FUNDAMENTNAL TRUTHS OF GOD'S WORD...AND THAT INCLUDES BELIEVING THAT THE FATHER,SON AND HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE GOD..ONE ENTITY..ONE SUPREME BEING. HOWEVER.... there are some groups who just" call" themselves Christian.... but are not...since they do NOT believe in the DEITY of Jesus Christ ...NOR do they believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirt are ONE ENTITY. There is also a group who just believes in a Christ consciousness.....but that also is not a biblical teaching at all. This is a list of CHRISTIANS that do not believe in the trinity. Christadelphians Christian Conventions (aka, Assemblies of Christians, Two-by-Twos, The Truth, etc.) Christian Science Church of Christ, Scientist Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints Church of the Blessed Hope (one of the groups otherwise known as Church of God of the Abrahamic Faith) Doukhobors ("Spirit-Wrestlers") Iglesia ni Cristo Jehovah's Witnesses Makuya Members Church of God International Molokans Most Holy Church of God in Christ Jesus Subbotniks |
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Those GROUPS you mentioned are NOT THE MAINLINE DENOMINATIONS I was speaking about......those you mentioned are called CULTS!!! REPEAT: ALL MAINLINE DENOMINATIONS(ALSO MOST NON-DENOMINATIONS AND INTER- DENOMINATIONS) AGREE ON THE BASIC FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS OF THE BIBLE....Again....I was NOT referring to those "CULTS " who just "CALL" themselves christians. Not everyone who "CALLS" themselves christian are Christians. A Christian is one who is BORN AGAIN!!!! HOWEVER... one CANNOT become BORN AGAIN, WITHOUT FIRST BELIEVING in ONE GOD....ONE SUPREME BEING ....and in the DEITY of JESUS CHRIST....simply because GOD THRU THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, will NOT NOT NOT take up RESIDENCE in someone, who DOES NOT NOT NOT BELIEVE IN WHO GOD REALLY AND TRULY IS!!!! GOD WOULD HAVE TO BE AN INTRUDER TO DO THAT...BUT GOD IS NOT AN INTRUDER!!! GOD ONLY COMES IN WHERE HE IS TRULY WELCOME!!! AND THAT IS WHY NO SALVATION CAN EVEN TAKE PLACE, UNLESS ONE HEARS THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD, AND RECEIVES INTO ONE'S HEART THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD !!! FAITH TO BELEIVE CAN ONLY COME FROM HEARING THE WORD OF GOD.....NOT NOT NOT BY HEARING JUST MAN'S VERSION OF THE WORD. THE POWER OF GOD WILL NOT MOVE WHERE HIS WORD IS NOT BEING PREACHED !!!! IN FACT, GOD CANNOT EVEN BE FOUND IN THE HOUSE....ALL THAT CAN BE FOUND IN THOSE PLACES THAT DO NOT PREACH THE WORD , IS JUST A BUNCH OF DEAD RELIGION AND A BUNCH OF RELIGIOUS SPIRTS WHO HAVE TAKEN OVER.....NOTHING MORE!!!! AGAIN...... FAITH ONLY COMES BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD...NOT NOT NOT BY JUST HEARING MAN'S "VERSION" OF THE WORD !!! NO SALVATION CAN TAKE PLACE BY BELIEVING IN ANOTHER VERSION OF THE WORD OF GOD, OR JUST MAN'S VERSION. Again.....Those GROUPS(CULTS) you mentioned DO NOT BELIEVE as the mainline denominations(and non-denominations and inter- denominations)) do AT ALL ... they DO NOT believe in The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and in the DEITY of Jesus Chrsit...and therefore CANNOT bring forth fruit......meaning..NO Salvation can take place... NO RELATIONSHIP with GOD ALMIGHTY can take place ...although they may "THINK " so. |
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Those GROUPS you mentioned are NOT THE MAINLINE DENOMINATIONS I was speaking about......those you mentioned are called CULTS!!! REPEAT: ALL MAINLINE DENOMINATIONS(ALSO MOST NON-DENOMINATIONS AND INTER- DENOMINATIONS) AGREE ON THE BASIC FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS OF THE BIBLE....Again....I was NOT referring to those "CULTS " who just "CALL" themselves christians. Not everyone who "CALLS" themselves christian are Christians. A Christian is one who is BORN AGAIN!!!! HOWEVER... one CANNOT become BORN AGAIN, WITHOUT FIRST BELIEVING in ONE GOD....ONE SUPREME BEING ....and in the DEITY of JESUS CHRIST....simply because GOD THRU THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, will NOT NOT NOT take up RESIDENCE in someone, who DOES NOT NOT NOT BELIEVE IN WHO GOD REALLY AND TRULY IS!!!! GOD WOULD HAVE TO BE AN INTRUDER TO DO THAT...BUT GOD IS NOT AN INTRUDER!!! GOD ONLY COMES IN WHERE HE IS TRULY WELCOME!!! AND THAT IS WHY NO SALVATION CAN EVEN TAKE PLACE, UNLESS ONE HEARS THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD, AND RECEIVES INTO ONE'S HEART THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD !!! FAITH TO BELEIVE CAN ONLY COME FROM HEARING THE WORD OF GOD.....NOT NOT NOT BY HEARING JUST MAN'S VERSION OF THE WORD. THE POWER OF GOD WILL NOT MOVE WHERE HIS WORD IS NOT BEING PREACHED !!!! IN FACT, GOD CANNOT EVEN BE FOUND IN THE HOUSE....ALL THAT CAN BE FOUND IN THOSE PLACES THAT DO NOT PREACH THE WORD , IS JUST A BUNCH OF DEAD RELIGION AND A BUNCH OF RELIGIOUS SPIRTS WHO HAVE TAKEN OVER.....NOTHING MORE!!!! AGAIN...... FAITH ONLY COMES BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD...NOT NOT NOT BY JUST HEARING MAN'S "VERSION" OF THE WORD !!! NO SALVATION CAN TAKE PLACE BY BELIEVING IN ANOTHER VERSION OF THE WORD OF GOD, OR JUST MAN'S VERSION. Again.....Those GROUPS(CULTS) you mentioned DO NOT BELEIVE as the mainline denominations(and non-denominations and inter- denominations)) do AT ALL ... they do NOT believe in The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and in the DEITY of Jesus Chrsit...and therefore CANNOT bring forth fruit......meaning..NO salvation can take place... NO RELATIONSHIP with GOD ALMIGHTY can take place ...although they may "THINK " so. Those are all "Christian" groups/denominations. Who are you to say they are not? "Trinity" is not mainstream Christianity as a whole, only certain denominations/beliefs believe in specifically the "trinity". Not believing in the trinity doesn't rid Jesus of his divinity. For Jesus is the only begotten son. He is our God in the flesh. Jesus is our God, he is the one whom made us, and this world as a whole. We worship Jesus Christ, for again he is God. There is only one God, Jesus Christ. |
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Those GROUPS you mentioned are NOT THE MAINLINE DENOMINATIONS I was speaking about......those you mentioned are called CULTS!!! REPEAT: ALL MAINLINE DENOMINATIONS(ALSO MOST NON-DENOMINATIONS AND INTER- DENOMINATIONS) AGREE ON THE BASIC FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS OF THE BIBLE....Again....I was NOT referring to those "CULTS " who just "CALL" themselves christians. Not everyone who "CALLS" themselves christian are Christians. A Christian is one who is BORN AGAIN!!!! HOWEVER... one CANNOT become BORN AGAIN, WITHOUT FIRST BELIEVING in ONE GOD....ONE SUPREME BEING ....and in the DEITY of JESUS CHRIST....simply because GOD THRU THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, will NOT NOT NOT take up RESIDENCE in someone, who DOES NOT NOT NOT BELIEVE IN WHO GOD REALLY AND TRULY IS!!!! GOD WOULD HAVE TO BE AN INTRUDER TO DO THAT...BUT GOD IS NOT AN INTRUDER!!! GOD ONLY COMES IN WHERE HE IS TRULY WELCOME!!! AND THAT IS WHY NO SALVATION CAN EVEN TAKE PLACE, UNLESS ONE HEARS THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD, AND RECEIVES INTO ONE'S HEART THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD !!! FAITH TO BELEIVE CAN ONLY COME FROM HEARING THE WORD OF GOD.....NOT NOT NOT BY HEARING JUST MAN'S VERSION OF THE WORD. THE POWER OF GOD WILL NOT MOVE WHERE HIS WORD IS NOT BEING PREACHED !!!! IN FACT, GOD CANNOT EVEN BE FOUND IN THE HOUSE....ALL THAT CAN BE FOUND IN THOSE PLACES THAT DO NOT PREACH THE WORD , IS JUST A BUNCH OF DEAD RELIGION AND A BUNCH OF RELIGIOUS SPIRTS WHO HAVE TAKEN OVER.....NOTHING MORE!!!! AGAIN...... FAITH ONLY COMES BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD...NOT NOT NOT BY JUST HEARING MAN'S "VERSION" OF THE WORD !!! NO SALVATION CAN TAKE PLACE BY BELIEVING IN ANOTHER VERSION OF THE WORD OF GOD, OR JUST MAN'S VERSION. Again.....Those GROUPS(CULTS) you mentioned DO NOT BELEIVE as the mainline denominations(and non-denominations and inter- denominations)) do AT ALL ... they do NOT believe in The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and in the DEITY of Jesus Chrsit...and therefore CANNOT bring forth fruit......meaning..NO salvation can take place... NO RELATIONSHIP with GOD ALMIGHTY can take place ...although they may "THINK " so. Those are all "Christian" groups/denominations. Who are you to say they are not? "Trinity" is not mainstream Christianity as a whole, only certain denominations/beliefs believe in specifically the "trinity". Not believing in the trinity doesn't rid Jesus of his divinity. For Jesus is the only begotten son. He is our God in the flesh. Jesus is our God, he is the one whom made us, and this world as a whole. We worship Jesus Christ, for again he is God. There is only one God, Jesus Christ. Another little thing that popped in my head about the trinity. The trinity believes The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all three one. This can NOT be true, for Jesus time after time says his father is greater then he is. If they were one, one could not be greater then another. John 14:28 28Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. This verse and many others show the definite distinction between the two. If they were ONE GOD, how could his father be greater then he? How could any of them be greater then another? |
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Those GROUPS you mentioned are NOT THE MAINLINE DENOMINATIONS I was speaking about......those you mentioned are called CULTS!!! REPEAT: ALL MAINLINE DENOMINATIONS(ALSO MOST NON-DENOMINATIONS AND INTER- DENOMINATIONS) AGREE ON THE BASIC FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS OF THE BIBLE....Again....I was NOT referring to those "CULTS " who just "CALL" themselves christians. Not everyone who "CALLS" themselves christian are Christians. A Christian is one who is BORN AGAIN!!!! HOWEVER... one CANNOT become BORN AGAIN, WITHOUT FIRST BELIEVING in ONE GOD....ONE SUPREME BEING ....and in the DEITY of JESUS CHRIST....simply because GOD THRU THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, will NOT NOT NOT take up RESIDENCE in someone, who DOES NOT NOT NOT BELIEVE IN WHO GOD REALLY AND TRULY IS!!!! GOD WOULD HAVE TO BE AN INTRUDER TO DO THAT...BUT GOD IS NOT AN INTRUDER!!! GOD ONLY COMES IN WHERE HE IS TRULY WELCOME!!! AND THAT IS WHY NO SALVATION CAN EVEN TAKE PLACE, UNLESS ONE HEARS THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD, AND RECEIVES INTO ONE'S HEART THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD !!! FAITH TO BELEIVE CAN ONLY COME FROM HEARING THE WORD OF GOD.....NOT NOT NOT BY HEARING JUST MAN'S VERSION OF THE WORD. THE POWER OF GOD WILL NOT MOVE WHERE HIS WORD IS NOT BEING PREACHED !!!! IN FACT, GOD CANNOT EVEN BE FOUND IN THE HOUSE....ALL THAT CAN BE FOUND IN THOSE PLACES THAT DO NOT PREACH THE WORD , IS JUST A BUNCH OF DEAD RELIGION AND A BUNCH OF RELIGIOUS SPIRTS WHO HAVE TAKEN OVER.....NOTHING MORE!!!! AGAIN...... FAITH ONLY COMES BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD...NOT NOT NOT BY JUST HEARING MAN'S "VERSION" OF THE WORD !!! NO SALVATION CAN TAKE PLACE BY BELIEVING IN ANOTHER VERSION OF THE WORD OF GOD, OR JUST MAN'S VERSION. Again.....Those GROUPS(CULTS) you mentioned DO NOT BELEIVE as the mainline denominations(and non-denominations and inter- denominations)) do AT ALL ... they do NOT believe in The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and in the DEITY of Jesus Chrsit...and therefore CANNOT bring forth fruit......meaning..NO salvation can take place... NO RELATIONSHIP with GOD ALMIGHTY can take place ...although they may "THINK " so. Those are all "Christian" groups/denominations. Who are you to say they are not? "Trinity" is not mainstream Christianity as a whole, only certain denominations/beliefs believe in specifically the "trinity". Not believing in the trinity doesn't rid Jesus of his divinity. For Jesus is the only begotten son. He is our God in the flesh. Jesus is our God, he is the one whom made us, and this world as a whole. We worship Jesus Christ, for again he is God. There is only one God, Jesus Christ. And again, Jesus NEVER refers to his father as OUR God, or YOUR God, or anything of such. Only Jesus is referred to as OUR God. And when Jesus cried out to his father, he said specifically HIS God. |
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Those GROUPS you mentioned are NOT THE MAINLINE DENOMINATIONS I was speaking about......those you mentioned are called CULTS!!! REPEAT: ALL MAINLINE DENOMINATIONS(ALSO MOST NON-DENOMINATIONS AND INTER- DENOMINATIONS) AGREE ON THE BASIC FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS OF THE BIBLE....Again....I was NOT referring to those "CULTS " who just "CALL" themselves christians. Not everyone who "CALLS" themselves christian are Christians. A Christian is one who is BORN AGAIN!!!! HOWEVER... one CANNOT become BORN AGAIN, WITHOUT FIRST BELIEVING in ONE GOD....ONE SUPREME BEING ....and in the DEITY of JESUS CHRIST....simply because GOD THRU THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, will NOT NOT NOT take up RESIDENCE in someone, who DOES NOT NOT NOT BELIEVE IN WHO GOD REALLY AND TRULY IS!!!! GOD WOULD HAVE TO BE AN INTRUDER TO DO THAT...BUT GOD IS NOT AN INTRUDER!!! GOD ONLY COMES IN WHERE HE IS TRULY WELCOME!!! AND THAT IS WHY NO SALVATION CAN EVEN TAKE PLACE, UNLESS ONE HEARS THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD, AND RECEIVES INTO ONE'S HEART THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD !!! FAITH TO BELEIVE CAN ONLY COME FROM HEARING THE WORD OF GOD.....NOT NOT NOT BY HEARING JUST MAN'S VERSION OF THE WORD. THE POWER OF GOD WILL NOT MOVE WHERE HIS WORD IS NOT BEING PREACHED !!!! IN FACT, GOD CANNOT EVEN BE FOUND IN THE HOUSE....ALL THAT CAN BE FOUND IN THOSE PLACES THAT DO NOT PREACH THE WORD , IS JUST A BUNCH OF DEAD RELIGION AND A BUNCH OF RELIGIOUS SPIRTS WHO HAVE TAKEN OVER.....NOTHING MORE!!!! AGAIN...... FAITH ONLY COMES BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD...NOT NOT NOT BY JUST HEARING MAN'S "VERSION" OF THE WORD !!! NO SALVATION CAN TAKE PLACE BY BELIEVING IN ANOTHER VERSION OF THE WORD OF GOD, OR JUST MAN'S VERSION. Again.....Those GROUPS(CULTS) you mentioned DO NOT BELIEVE as the mainline denominations(and non-denominations and inter- denominations)) do AT ALL ... they DO NOT believe in The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and in the DEITY of Jesus Chrsit...and therefore CANNOT bring forth fruit......meaning..NO Salvation can take place... NO RELATIONSHIP with GOD ALMIGHTY can take place ...although they may "THINK " so. one CANNOT become BORN AGAIN, WITHOUT FIRST BELIEVING in ONE GOD....ONE SUPREME BEING ....and in the DEITY of JESUS CHRIST....simply because GOD THRU THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, will NOT NOT NOT take up RESIDENCE in someone, who DOES NOT NOT NOT BELIEVE IN WHO GOD REALLY AND TRULY IS!!!! Scriptures say differently. If we confess with our mouths Jesus is lord and that God has raised him from the dead, we will be saved. Confessing Jesus as Lord is where the faith lays, then as making Jesus our lord, we will obey his commandments eg., the works. Takes both faith and works to enter into Heaven. Faith without works is dead. That is why first believing Jesus is Lord and Savior would be putting our FAITH in Jesus Christ. Then when we confess this and obey his commandments would be putting the works in. Not works done in hopes to receive anything, the works done out of love and wanting to obey our lord Jesus Christ. Romans 10:9 9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. |
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Cowboy wrote:
Not believing in the trinity doesn't rid Jesus of his divinity. For Jesus is the only begotten son. He is our God in the flesh. Jesus is our God, he is the one whom made us, and this world as a whole. We worship Jesus Christ, for again he is God. There is only one God, Jesus Christ. And again, Jesus NEVER refers to his father as OUR God, or YOUR God, or anything of such. Only Jesus is referred to as OUR God. And when Jesus cried out to his father, he said specifically HIS God. Cowboy,THE ONLY REASON You now even believe in the divinity of Jesus as God at all now...is because you believe Jesus is OUR God over ALL OF US WHO ARE GODS ..which means according to your belief is that Jesus has to have divinity cause he is "our" God over us... ......but it is still a strange false belief you believe in..and it is NOT biblical.........cause you DON'T believe The Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit is ONE SUPREME BEING, OR ONE ENTITY, AS THE BIBLE TEACHES!! INSTEAD, You believe JesuS is JUST "OUR' God, and you also believe the Father is "ONLY" JESUS'S God, and you believe the Father is a" WHOLE SEPARATE ENTITY from Jesus". (Not as a separate PERSON as Christians beleive , but you actually beleive the Father is a WHOLE SEPARATE ENTITY from Jesus!!! ALL THIS IS OF YOURS, IS JUST A BUNCH OF ERRONEOUS FALSE TEACHING YOU BELIEVE IN ..AND NOT SCRIPTUAL AT ALL..BUT JUST YOUR OWN TWISTED VERSION OF THE GOPSEL!!!!! But what you beleve is NOT biblical..it is" YOUR version" only. This is exactly how cults twist the WORD ALSO....and then think they can be saved thru their "own version" of belief NOT SO!!! BECAUSE...... UNLESS you believe in the REAL Jesus Christ of the Bible( and NOT just in YOUR OWN VERSION OF WHO YOU THINK JESSU IS....but ONLY IN the REAL Jesus Christ who is ONLY ONE ENTITY with the Father AND the Holy SpIrit ), you CANNOT be born again!!! God the Holy Spirit will NOT NOT NOT take up RESIDENCE in a person, who believes in A DIFFERENT STRANGE JESUS!!!!! |
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Cowboy wrote:
Scriptures say differently. If we confess with our mouths Jesus is lord and that God has raised him from the dead, we will be saved. Confessing Jesus as Lord is where the faith lays, then as making Jesus our lord, we will obey his commandments eg., the works. Takes both faith and works to enter into Heaven. Faith without works is dead. That is why first believing Jesus is Lord and Savior would be putting our FAITH in Jesus Christ. Then when we confess this and obey his commandments would be putting the works in. Not works done in hopes to receive anything, the works done out of love and wanting to obey our lord Jesus Christ. Romans 10:9 9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. GOD'S WORD ALSO SAYS IF YOU SHALL BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART, NOT JUST CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH....... ALSO .... GOD ALSO SEES AND KNOWS THE HEART ,AND KNOWS IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE ON HIS SON THE REAL JESUS...OR IN ANOTHER "VERSION" OF JESUS!!! ALSO ...ONLY BY GRACE THRU FAITH ONLY ARE WE SAVED, AND NOT BY WORKS !!! AS SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE, COWBOY..... ALL YOU HAVE EVER PRESENTED ON HERE , IS A FALSE STRANGE GOSPEL TO THE PRECIOUS PEOPLE ON HERE !!! NOTHING MORE. |
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