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What can be more admirable than a charitable religious person?
An atheist who does the same charitable work. Why? Because they get no reward after death for it. 
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Sounds self defeating. Good point.
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maybe the reward is that they feel good about themselves as someone who has made someone elses life better. Could send us back to square one. Its the old altruism argument. Which is the same for all who do this type of work regardless but the religious believe more rewards for themselves for doing it. |
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maybe the reward is that they feel good about themselves as someone who has made someone elses life better. Could send us back to square one. Its the old altruism argument. Which is the same for all who do this type of work regardless but the religious believe more rewards for themselves for doing it. Not necessarily. Some people are pure in their religion in that the path leads to goodness and not 73 virgins, or something that other folks will be denied. Yea atheists...lol 
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And acourse atheist have just as much ability to be doing something for the wrong reasons. Except they can't claim/believe to get a reward after death. |
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And acourse atheist have just as much ability to be doing something for the wrong reasons. Except they can't claim/believe to get a reward after death. No they can claim/believe to get a reward before that. ...ex: trina impress a gal. But that is equal across the board for everyone. |
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And acourse atheist have just as much ability to be doing something for the wrong reasons. Except they can't claim/believe to get a reward after death. No they can claim/believe to get a reward before that. ...ex: trina impress a gal. But that is equal across the board for everyone. yes. So one is not necessarily more admirable. Sure it is. It is more admirable for those who do charitable acts when they will not get rewarded after death. |
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What can be more admirable than a charitable religious person? An atheist who does the same charitable work. Why? Because they get no reward after death for it.
I always ask, "Who would a God be more impressed with? A religious person who does good things because they trying to please a God? Or an atheist who does good things because it's simply who they are?" I mean, the same thing could be asked of a parent and child. Would you be more proud of a child who does goods things simply because they are trying to impressing you? Or would you be more proud of a child who does things because it's who they really are? It seems to me that a God who created humans would be far more impressed by good atheistic than by good religious people. There's always the question too: "Would good religious people remain good if they were too suddenly lose their belief in a God" I've met far too many religious people (especially strong proselytizers of religion) who proclaim that if there is no God there would be no reason to have moral values! Like duh? 
So without a God morality suddenly has no value? 
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What can be more admirable than a charitable religious person? An atheist who does the same charitable work. Why? Because they get no reward after death for it.
I always ask, "Who would a God be more impressed with? A religious person who does good things because they trying to please a God? Or an atheist who does good things because it's simply who they are?" I mean, the same thing could be asked of a parent and child. Would you be more proud of a child who does goods things simply because they are trying to impressing you? Or would you be more proud of a child who does things because it's who they really are? It seems to me that a God who created humans would be far more impressed by good atheistic than by good religious people. There's always the question too: "Would good religious people remain good if they were too suddenly lose their belief in a God" I've met far too many religious people (especially strong proselytizers of religion) who proclaim that if there is no God there would be no reason to have moral values! Like duh?
So without a God morality suddenly has no value?
Well and morality applies in this scenario too. A person being moral for the sake of being moral or being moral for the rewards they believe they will get. An atheist is moral for their own personal respect of themselves and others. In the religious this could be untrue as they may be doing it for other reasons. |
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What can be more admirable than a charitable religious person? An atheist who does the same charitable work. Why? Because they get no reward after death for it.
I always ask, "Who would a God be more impressed with? A religious person who does good things because they trying to please a God? Or an atheist who does good things because it's simply who they are?" I mean, the same thing could be asked of a parent and child. Would you be more proud of a child who does goods things simply because they are trying to impressing you? Or would you be more proud of a child who does things because it's who they really are? It seems to me that a God who created humans would be far more impressed by good atheistic than by good religious people. There's always the question too: "Would good religious people remain good if they were too suddenly lose their belief in a God" I've met far too many religious people (especially strong proselytizers of religion) who proclaim that if there is no God there would be no reason to have moral values! Like duh?
So without a God morality suddenly has no value?
Good point. I once wondered what would happen if God was an Atheist.
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A person with just Religion ,will do things to impress
God , or earn favor with God. A person with Relationship has a brand new heart within,and therefore does things out of LOVE for God now, and not to impress. 
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maybe the reward is that they feel good about themselves as someone who has made someone elses life better. Could send us back to square one. Its the old altruism argument. Which is the same for all who do this type of work regardless but the religious believe more rewards for themselves for doing it. Not true. It's not like Good deed = 10 gift, bad deed - -10 deeds or anything at all like that lol. It's not done for the reward, it's done for the love of the Lord and wishing to be obedient and to share love with the world. It's not about rewards or punishments or anything besides a relationship with God and obeying his commands he has set out before us. |
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And acourse atheist have just as much ability to be doing something for the wrong reasons. Except they can't claim/believe to get a reward after death. No they can claim/believe to get a reward before that. ...ex: trina impress a gal. But that is equal across the board for everyone. yes. So one is not necessarily more admirable. Sure it is. It is more admirable for those who do charitable acts when they will not get rewarded after death. Youre ignoring the fact that athiests can reap rewards for the same acts. No I am not ignoring anything here. The board is the same until after death which is only applicable to the religious. So the rewards for charitable acts for the religious is more making it less charitable from get. |
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maybe the reward is that they feel good about themselves as someone who has made someone elses life better. Could send us back to square one. Its the old altruism argument. Which is the same for all who do this type of work regardless but the religious believe more rewards for themselves for doing it. Not true. It's not like Good deed = 10 gift, bad deed - -10 deeds or anything at all like that lol. It's not done for the reward, it's done for the love of the Lord and wishing to be obedient and to share love with the world. It's not about rewards or punishments or anything besides a relationship with God and obeying his commands he has set out before us. I am going to take it that you do not mean to be hypocritical but are confused since you contradicted yourself in your own statement. |
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What can be more admirable than a charitable religious person? An atheist who does the same charitable work. Why? Because they get no reward after death for it.
I always ask, "Who would a God be more impressed with? A religious person who does good things because they trying to please a God? Or an atheist who does good things because it's simply who they are?" I mean, the same thing could be asked of a parent and child. Would you be more proud of a child who does goods things simply because they are trying to impressing you? Or would you be more proud of a child who does things because it's who they really are? It seems to me that a God who created humans would be far more impressed by good atheistic than by good religious people. There's always the question too: "Would good religious people remain good if they were too suddenly lose their belief in a God" I've met far too many religious people (especially strong proselytizers of religion) who proclaim that if there is no God there would be no reason to have moral values! Like duh?
So without a God morality suddenly has no value?
Good point. I once wondered what would happen if God was an Atheist.
It wouldn't surprise me if he/she/it would have to with what man has done to the idea of god. 
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And acourse atheist have just as much ability to be doing something for the wrong reasons. Except they can't claim/believe to get a reward after death. No they can claim/believe to get a reward before that. ...ex: trina impress a gal. But that is equal across the board for everyone. yes. So one is not necessarily more admirable. Sure it is. It is more admirable for those who do charitable acts when they will not get rewarded after death. Youre ignoring the fact that athiests can reap rewards for the same acts. No I am not ignoring anything here. The board is the same until after death which is only applicable to the religious. So the rewards for charitable acts for the religious is more making it less charitable from get. I was never taught that there are more rewards for one who is a generous christian than for any other generous person. Man makes those distinctions but I have read nothing like it in the bible. |
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What can be more admirable than a charitable religious person? An atheist who does the same charitable work. Why? Because they get no reward after death for it.
I always ask, "Who would a God be more impressed with? A religious person who does good things because they trying to please a God? Or an atheist who does good things because it's simply who they are?" I mean, the same thing could be asked of a parent and child. Would you be more proud of a child who does goods things simply because they are trying to impressing you? Or would you be more proud of a child who does things because it's who they really are? It seems to me that a God who created humans would be far more impressed by good atheistic than by good religious people. There's always the question too: "Would good religious people remain good if they were too suddenly lose their belief in a God" I've met far too many religious people (especially strong proselytizers of religion) who proclaim that if there is no God there would be no reason to have moral values! Like duh?
So without a God morality suddenly has no value?
Good point. I once wondered what would happen if God was an Atheist.
It wouldn't surprise me if he/she/it would have to with what man has done to the idea of god.
Yeah. A god who didn't believe in believers.
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And acourse atheist have just as much ability to be doing something for the wrong reasons. Except they can't claim/believe to get a reward after death. No they can claim/believe to get a reward before that. ...ex: trina impress a gal. But that is equal across the board for everyone. yes. So one is not necessarily more admirable. Sure it is. It is more admirable for those who do charitable acts when they will not get rewarded after death. Youre ignoring the fact that athiests can reap rewards for the same acts. No I am not ignoring anything here. The board is the same until after death which is only applicable to the religious. So the rewards for charitable acts for the religious is more making it less charitable from get. The issue is the reward itself, not the time it is dispensed. As I have said, Atheists are also rewarded. They do not believe in afterlife so its not a lost reward. Some religious people are a-holes and think they are superior and will receive additional rewards simply for being a member of an organisation. Its the same as saying there are good people and bad people. It doesnt matter if they are or arent religious. "Religion" doesn't make a person good, bad, evil, or holy. The person them self and the choices they choose to make is what makes a person good, bad, evil, holy, or any other possibility. Religion is just as much fault for someone's action(s) as TV is, as the inter-net is, as any other influence is. It's never the "beliefs" fault, the inter-nets fault, or anything other then the person's fault for doing or not doing the action. |
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There is a big reward in the here and now for doing charitable work. It's called "human recognition". Plenty of people, religious and non-religious, give to charities or do charitable work for the recognition by other people as a "wonderful person". Happens all the time.
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There is a big reward in the here and now for doing charitable work. It's called "human recognition". Plenty of people, religious and non-religious, give to charities or do charitable work for the recognition by other people as a "wonderful person". Happens all the time. Seems quite in vein for those reasons :/ and not just out of love to help a fellow person. |
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