False, because the charitable action is not done in seeking of a reward on Earth or in Heaven. The action(s) are done out of love to help someone(s).

IM curious what doctrines and rules exist in the catholic religion which are absolute?

plenty is WRITTEN, but very few specifically listed as 'doctrines' or there probably wouldnt be so much confusion and disagreement about what the beliefs are.

As a baptist, I have the TEN COMMANDMENTS, believing in christ as the son of God, loving your neighbor, and treating others as you wish to be treated.


beyond that I know of no SPECIFIC or ABSOLUTE doctrine adhered to or understood the same by all baptists.

IM curious what doctrines and rules exist in the catholic religion which are absolute?

plenty is WRITTEN, but very few specifically listed as 'doctrines' or there probably wouldnt be so much confusion and disagreement about what the beliefs are.

As a baptist, I have the TEN COMMANDMENTS, believing in christ as the son of God, loving your neighbor, and treating others as you wish to be treated.


beyond that I know of no SPECIFIC or ABSOLUTE doctrine adhered to or understood the same by all baptists.

Im sorry you feel that way, truly.

Charity comes from the heart BEFORE it occurs, and doesnt change based upon what happens AFTER it occurs..

Hrmony if you want more info on Catholocism I would be glad to give them to you on another thread.

Not the subject matter here.

Cowboy, you are so contradictory on your posts I am not going to address you until you get your story straight.

Now back to how much more charitable it is for an atheist to give to charity then those religious who will get (by their beliefs) more rewards in the after life.

It is a factual concept.

I'm glad you continue to say that there's contradictions in my posts, but fail to express them. And no, charitable work is not done for more rewards in the after life. Wouldn't be "charitable" if it was for a reward. We do them out of love, out of kindness for a fellow person. To give and not receive. Again, it is not done for more rewards in Heaven. For if it was, those actions would be in vein.

repeating it does not make it so

it assumes everyone believes that in return for charity they will receive rewards in afterlife,, which everyone doesnt, even if they are religious

many people do charity outside the home but treat their loved ones awfully, who would believe merely the former would get them rewards in heaven while ignoring the latter?

probably some do, but I doubt all religious do, I certainly dont

which comes back to what cowboy said about it not being seen (by others like me anyhow) as a good deed for a heavenly reward, as that 'heavenly reward' is a condition of making it to heaven in the first place, something not guaranteed by any one good deed.

It is very possible, that no matter how much charity I do, I may still not be guaranteed any place in heaven,, so its false to assume my charity is less charitable based upon some assumption that I will receive a 'heavenly reward' in return

Again back to the charitable charity of atheists being more charitable then those who get rewarded after death for these same acts.

assumptions are as welcome as any other statement, I Suppose,,,

It is more admirable for an atheist to do a charitable acts if you consider their lack of reward in the after life.

Factual.

Again, Christians don't do charitable things for the reward. We do them out of love, out of compassion. Not for the gaining of one self.

Still doesn't change the fact that it is more admirable to do with no possibility of reward in the after life.

Very true, Christians believe the same. We do not do things to better ourselves, we strive to better others before ourselves.

Still doesn't change the fact that atheist are more admirable in charitable acts because of their lack of reward in after life.

Ok.

I guess this means that Mother Theresa is the least charitable of all.

Obviously.

Charity is charity. It doesn't matter if it comes from someone who is religious or not, or what political affiliation they have.

How do you know her motives behind her actions?

alot of crap about reward in the afterlife, who does what and why but the religious, atheists and agnostics (yes, i do feel left out here) quite often are charitable just because they want to help somebody out. and my guess would be in roughly equal numbers. silly to argue over what motivates charity for crying out loud. something good happens and we're arguing why it happened?