Topic: ZIONISTS WON'T LET YOU SEE THIS ON YOUR TV
Lpdon's photo
Sun 11/27/11 04:55 PM



It is sad. Incredibly sad. Rachel Corrie committed suicide by
throwing herself in front of a bulldozer. Wasted her life for
nothing. Killed herself because she fell victim to the false
Palestinian propaganda of Hamas and Hezbollah and now she is used
in death as a propaganda tool for those who advocate murdering
innocent civilians.

What a waste. I do feel sorry for her and her family.

I hope her death causes widespread revulsion of the
disgusting tactics of Hamas and Hezbollah who incited
her to throw her life away for nothing. It is like
raising toddlers to be suicide bombers. Ugh.


:thumbsup:

no photo
Sun 11/27/11 04:57 PM




It is sad. Incredibly sad. Rachel Corrie committed suicide by
throwing herself in front of a bulldozer. Wasted her life for
nothing. Killed herself because she fell victim to the false
Palestinian propaganda of Hamas and Hezbollah and now she is used
in death as a propaganda tool for those who advocate murdering
innocent civilians.

What a waste. I do feel sorry for her and her family.

I hope her death causes widespread revulsion of the
disgusting tactics of Hamas and Hezbollah who incited
her to throw her life away for nothing. It is like
raising toddlers to be suicide bombers. Ugh.


:thumbsup:


I second that..:thumbsup:

Lpdon's photo
Sun 11/27/11 05:00 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Sun 11/27/11 05:05 PM
I read the Palestinians were not happy with her at first. She didn't die their way by screaming "Allahu Ackbar" and blowing herself up!

Optomistic69's photo
Sun 11/27/11 05:02 PM


Remember This Anyone

This is in China

Communist China

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-nXT8lSnPQ&feature=player_embedded

Only in America

Lpdon's photo
Sun 11/27/11 06:32 PM
Allahu Ackbar! BOOM! rofl

Bestinshow's photo
Mon 11/28/11 02:06 PM



It is sad. Incredibly sad. Rachel Corrie committed suicide by
throwing herself in front of a bulldozer. Wasted her life for
nothing. Killed herself because she fell victim to the false
Palestinian propaganda of Hamas and Hezbollah and now she is used
in death as a propaganda tool for those who advocate murdering
innocent civilians.

What a waste. I do feel sorry for her and her family.

I hope her death causes widespread revulsion of the
disgusting tactics of Hamas and Hezbollah who incited
her to throw her life away for nothing. It is like
raising toddlers to be suicide bombers. Ugh.
She wasted her life for what she believed in unlike the four thousand or so US troops involved in our criminal wars.

Any of them die for something they believed in?
They died for a filthy pack of lies.

Optomistic69's photo
Mon 11/28/11 02:18 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Mon 11/28/11 02:22 PM
I have made a decision to pack in the political threads because of one or two maybe three but no more than four posters on here.

If I was an American I would definitely stay in but I think the Europeans should sort out their own and the Americans theirs.

A New Site I came across today.. It is an American Site.

The Link.... http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/


I agree entirely with their Mission Statement.

Our Mission:
CNI works for U.S. Middle East policies that serve the national interest; that represent the highest values of our founders and our citizens; and that work to sustain a nation of honor, decency, security, and prosperity.
Many of the most serious dangers facing Americans today stem from our highly unusual relationship with Israel.

Our uniquely massive support for Israel has cost trillions of dollars and multitudes of lives. It has diminished our moral standing in the world, lessened our domestic freedoms, and exposed us to unnecessary and growing peril.

The majority of Americans – as well as our diplomatic and military experts – oppose this unique relationship.

Yet, special interest lobbiescontinue to foment policies that are disastrous for our nation and tragic for the region.

If we are to have sensible, effective policies that promote safety rather than danger, then it is essential that all Americans become active and informed. Lives depend on it.



s1owhand's photo
Mon 11/28/11 02:33 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Mon 11/28/11 02:35 PM




It is sad. Incredibly sad. Rachel Corrie committed suicide by
throwing herself in front of a bulldozer. Wasted her life for
nothing. Killed herself because she fell victim to the false
Palestinian propaganda of Hamas and Hezbollah and now she is used
in death as a propaganda tool for those who advocate murdering
innocent civilians.

What a waste. I do feel sorry for her and her family.

I hope her death causes widespread revulsion of the
disgusting tactics of Hamas and Hezbollah who incited
her to throw her life away for nothing. It is like
raising toddlers to be suicide bombers. Ugh.
She wasted her life for what she believed in unlike the four thousand or so US troops involved in our criminal wars.

Any of them die for something they believed in?


Our troops believe and vow to defend our freedoms.

Rachel Corrie according to eyewitness accounts fell
backwards off a dirt pile into the path of a
gigantic bulldozer after multiple warnings to stay
away. Rachel died trying to promote people who purposefully
kill innocent women and children intentionally.

I will take the cause of defending religious and political
freedoms and freedom over the press any day rather than
the cause of attacking innocent people in their buses,
schools, cafe's and homes.

The cause of our troops is noble.

The cause of Hamas and Hezbollah is war crimes.
Acts so vile they are considered criminal even in wartime.

This is the real Rachel Corrie story...
http://www.peacewithrealism.org/pdc/rachel.htm

=-=-=-=-=

Rachel Corrie

The tragic and needless death of pro-Palestinian activist Rachel Corrie is a favorite of those who keep trying to portray Israel as no less brutal than the Palestinians. The story of her "murder" by an Israeli bulldozer driver still persists long after it has been debunked. Like Muhammad al-Durrah, the circumstances of her death were falsified and she became a symbol of the Palestinian "resistance" and Israeli "Nazism."

On March 16, 2003, Israeli bulldozers were clearing away foliage used to hide bombs and tearing down buildings that were covering tunnels used for smuggling arms from Egypt into Gaza. Refusing warnings to clear the area, Corrie, who was demonstrating with other members of the International Solidarity Movement, stood in front of an oncoming bulldozer and was crushed to death. Even though the driver of the bulldozer was exonerated, the Palestinians keep insisting that Corrie was killed intentionally.

They do this by making dubious claims and by making up evidence when they need it. They claim that a photo showing Corrie holding a megaphone "removes any doubt" that her presence was known to the driver. However, the same photo shows how tiny Corrie was in comparison to the size of the bulldozer. It is apparent that the driver could easily not have seen her, and that the sound of her megaphone reaching him through the noise and the distance was highly unlikely.

The Palestinians claim that "eyewitnesses" saw the driver kill Corrie deliberately. Yet a CNN report sheds doubt on these "eyewitnesses":

"She was raising her hands and yelling at the bulldozer driver to stop," [Huwaida] Arraf[, co-founder of the International Solidarity Movement,] said. "The bulldozer driver paid no attention.... He buried Rachel with dirt, which ended up, obviously, knocking her down. Then he ran over her, and then reversed and ran over her again."

Other witnesses, however, reported that Corrie had scaled a pile of dirt but then lost her footing and fell backward behind it, out of sight of the bulldozer operator. The bulldozer continued moving forward, covering Corrie with dirt and then crushing her.(1)

Not letting the truth deter them, the Palestinians have circulated two more photos showing Corrie "before" and "after" the bulldozer accident and trying to make it appear as if the driver could see her. The problem is, the photos are deceptive. In the first photo a trick of perspective gives an inaccurate impression of the line of site between the bulldozer and Corrie. But much more important, the first photo is mislabeled, and does not even show the same bulldozer that was involved in the accident!

The photo's mislabeling is well known and was pointed out by several sources, including the New York Times: the bulldozer in the first photo "was not the one that killed her."(2) Nevertheless, the Palestinians continue to ignore this (and hope you will ignore it too), and still present the photos as if they showed the same bulldozer "before" and "after." Even today one can view this phony presentation on the International Solidarity Movement and Electronic Intifada web sites.

All of the photos mentioned in this piece may be seen elsewhere on this site, as well as further details of the Rachel Corrie hoax.

Truth clearly means nothing to the Palestinian Disinformation Campaign. Eyewitness accounts? Evidence? If you need them, just make them up.

March 2005

Notes

1. "Israeli Bulldozer Kills American Protester," CNN.com, March 25, 2003.
(return)

2. "Corrections," New York Times, March 26, 2003.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 11/28/11 02:35 PM
http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/about-us

Alison Weir

Alison Weir, President

Alison WeirAlison Weir former is a journalist and the founder of If Americans Knew, a nonprofit organization that focuses on the Israel-Palestine conflict, specializing in statistical analysis. Weir writes and speaks widely about Israel-Palestine, with particular focus on media coverage. Her articles on the subject have been published in anthologies both in the U.S. and abroad and in diverse online and print publications.

Ms. Weir has given talks at numerous universities, including Harvard Law School, Stanford, UC Berkeley, Yale, the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, and the Naval Postgraduate Institute; four times at the Asia Media Summit in Kuala Lumpur and Beijing, and has twice given briefings on Capitol Hill.

Former U.S. Congressman Tom Campbell (R-CA) said of her presentation: “Ms. Weir presents a powerful, well documented view of the Middle East today. She is intelligent, careful, and critical. American policy makers would benefit greatly from hearing her first-hand observations and attempting to answer the questions she poses.”

The New York Times reported of her lecture in Greenwich, Connecticut: “When the speech ended, Ms. Weir was met with thunderous applause, and across the room there was a widespread sense of satisfaction that someone was saying what needed to be said.”

In 2004 she was inducted into honorary membership of Phi Alpha Literary Society, founded in 1845 at Illinois College. The award cited her as a: “Courageous journalist-lecturer on behalf of human rights. The first woman to receive an honorary membership in Phi Alpha history.”


and there we have it,another Rogues Gallery!

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/215


The New Site with the same lame Rogues!rofl


The Sister of "If Americans Knew".

Peccy's photo
Mon 11/28/11 02:46 PM

I can feel my privilege around me
It's there in my American face
I could wave my passport around like a flag
And I would be safe in this place.
For these child soldiers of Israel
They look like the boys back home
And if it wasn't for American money
They'd have to leave these people alone..


It was said she was hidden from view.......you tell me


lol...........well it might be more convincing if it weren't for the difference in the two dozers, look at the tops of each

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 11/28/11 02:56 PM





It is sad. Incredibly sad. Rachel Corrie committed suicide by
throwing herself in front of a bulldozer. Wasted her life for
nothing. Killed herself because she fell victim to the false
Palestinian propaganda of Hamas and Hezbollah and now she is used
in death as a propaganda tool for those who advocate murdering
innocent civilians.

What a waste. I do feel sorry for her and her family.

I hope her death causes widespread revulsion of the
disgusting tactics of Hamas and Hezbollah who incited
her to throw her life away for nothing. It is like
raising toddlers to be suicide bombers. Ugh.
She wasted her life for what she believed in unlike the four thousand or so US troops involved in our criminal wars.

Any of them die for something they believed in?


Our troops believe and vow to defend our freedoms.

Rachel Corrie according to eyewitness accounts fell
backwards off a dirt pile into the path of a
gigantic bulldozer after multiple warnings to stay
away. Rachel died trying to promote people who purposefully
kill innocent women and children intentionally.

I will take the cause of defending religious and political
freedoms and freedom over the press any day rather than
the cause of attacking innocent people in their buses,
schools, cafe's and homes.

The cause of our troops is noble.

The cause of Hamas and Hezbollah is war crimes.
Acts so vile they are considered criminal even in wartime.

This is the real Rachel Corrie story...
http://www.peacewithrealism.org/pdc/rachel.htm

=-=-=-=-=

Rachel Corrie

The tragic and needless death of pro-Palestinian activist Rachel Corrie is a favorite of those who keep trying to portray Israel as no less brutal than the Palestinians. The story of her "murder" by an Israeli bulldozer driver still persists long after it has been debunked. Like Muhammad al-Durrah, the circumstances of her death were falsified and she became a symbol of the Palestinian "resistance" and Israeli "Nazism."

On March 16, 2003, Israeli bulldozers were clearing away foliage used to hide bombs and tearing down buildings that were covering tunnels used for smuggling arms from Egypt into Gaza. Refusing warnings to clear the area, Corrie, who was demonstrating with other members of the International Solidarity Movement, stood in front of an oncoming bulldozer and was crushed to death. Even though the driver of the bulldozer was exonerated, the Palestinians keep insisting that Corrie was killed intentionally.

They do this by making dubious claims and by making up evidence when they need it. They claim that a photo showing Corrie holding a megaphone "removes any doubt" that her presence was known to the driver. However, the same photo shows how tiny Corrie was in comparison to the size of the bulldozer. It is apparent that the driver could easily not have seen her, and that the sound of her megaphone reaching him through the noise and the distance was highly unlikely.

The Palestinians claim that "eyewitnesses" saw the driver kill Corrie deliberately. Yet a CNN report sheds doubt on these "eyewitnesses":

"She was raising her hands and yelling at the bulldozer driver to stop," [Huwaida] Arraf[, co-founder of the International Solidarity Movement,] said. "The bulldozer driver paid no attention.... He buried Rachel with dirt, which ended up, obviously, knocking her down. Then he ran over her, and then reversed and ran over her again."

Other witnesses, however, reported that Corrie had scaled a pile of dirt but then lost her footing and fell backward behind it, out of sight of the bulldozer operator. The bulldozer continued moving forward, covering Corrie with dirt and then crushing her.(1)

Not letting the truth deter them, the Palestinians have circulated two more photos showing Corrie "before" and "after" the bulldozer accident and trying to make it appear as if the driver could see her. The problem is, the photos are deceptive. In the first photo a trick of perspective gives an inaccurate impression of the line of site between the bulldozer and Corrie. But much more important, the first photo is mislabeled, and does not even show the same bulldozer that was involved in the accident!

The photo's mislabeling is well known and was pointed out by several sources, including the New York Times: the bulldozer in the first photo "was not the one that killed her."(2) Nevertheless, the Palestinians continue to ignore this (and hope you will ignore it too), and still present the photos as if they showed the same bulldozer "before" and "after." Even today one can view this phony presentation on the International Solidarity Movement and Electronic Intifada web sites.

All of the photos mentioned in this piece may be seen elsewhere on this site, as well as further details of the Rachel Corrie hoax.

Truth clearly means nothing to the Palestinian Disinformation Campaign. Eyewitness accounts? Evidence? If you need them, just make them up.

March 2005

Notes

1. "Israeli Bulldozer Kills American Protester," CNN.com, March 25, 2003.
(return)

2. "Corrections," New York Times, March 26, 2003.
The Palestinians had every reason for her to get hurt!
A propaganda Coup like that doesn't come everyday!
Just another example of PALLYWOOD-Productions!
A sickening bunch of people!ill

Optomistic69's photo
Mon 11/28/11 02:56 PM


I can feel my privilege around me
It's there in my American face
I could wave my passport around like a flag
And I would be safe in this place.
For these child soldiers of Israel
They look like the boys back home
And if it wasn't for American money
They'd have to leave these people alone..


It was said she was hidden from view.......you tell me


lol...........well it might be more convincing if it weren't for the difference in the two dozers, look at the tops of each


Lame excuse...she was murdered and it could have been avoided...end of
Why do you have so little regard for life..especially one of your own...beggars belief

It could and should have been avoided....

Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/28/11 02:59 PM
Allahu Ackbar! BOOM! laugh

no photo
Mon 11/28/11 03:00 PM


I can feel my privilege around me
It's there in my American face
I could wave my passport around like a flag
And I would be safe in this place.
For these child soldiers of Israel
They look like the boys back home
And if it wasn't for American money
They'd have to leave these people alone..


It was said she was hidden from view.......you tell me


lol...........well it might be more convincing if it weren't for the difference in the two dozers, look at the tops of each


I wonder why the "peace" activists shown helping in picture #2 did not restrain Rachel???

no photo
Mon 11/28/11 03:01 PM



I can feel my privilege around me
It's there in my American face
I could wave my passport around like a flag
And I would be safe in this place.
For these child soldiers of Israel
They look like the boys back home
And if it wasn't for American money
They'd have to leave these people alone..


It was said she was hidden from view.......you tell me


lol...........well it might be more convincing if it weren't for the difference in the two dozers, look at the tops of each


I wonder why the "peace" activists in picture #3 did not stop Rachel?

I wonder why the "peace" activists shown helping in picture #2 did not restrain Rachel???

Optomistic69's photo
Mon 11/28/11 03:05 PM



I can feel my privilege around me
It's there in my American face
I could wave my passport around like a flag
And I would be safe in this place.
For these child soldiers of Israel
They look like the boys back home
And if it wasn't for American money
They'd have to leave these people alone..


It was said she was hidden from view.......you tell me


lol...........well it might be more convincing if it weren't for the difference in the two dozers, look at the tops of each


I wonder why the "peace" activists shown helping in picture #2 did not restrain Rachel???


Why did the Israel Commander not see to it that the building site was cleared...

Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/28/11 03:08 PM



I can feel my privilege around me
It's there in my American face
I could wave my passport around like a flag
And I would be safe in this place.
For these child soldiers of Israel
They look like the boys back home
And if it wasn't for American money
They'd have to leave these people alone..


It was said she was hidden from view.......you tell me


lol...........well it might be more convincing if it weren't for the difference in the two dozers, look at the tops of each


I wonder why the "peace" activists shown helping in picture #2 did not restrain Rachel???


Because they and their cause benefited from her death and they took the lead of their precious Muslims and sacraficed a woman.

Optomistic69's photo
Mon 11/28/11 03:12 PM




I can feel my privilege around me
It's there in my American face
I could wave my passport around like a flag
And I would be safe in this place.
For these child soldiers of Israel
They look like the boys back home
And if it wasn't for American money
They'd have to leave these people alone..


It was said she was hidden from view.......you tell me


lol...........well it might be more convincing if it weren't for the difference in the two dozers, look at the tops of each


I wonder why the "peace" activists shown helping in picture #2 did not restrain Rachel???


Because they and their cause benefited from her death and they took the lead of their precious Muslims and sacraficed a woman.


So says the swat teamlaugh



InvictusV's photo
Tue 11/29/11 04:40 AM

I have made a decision to pack in the political threads because of one or two maybe three but no more than four posters on here.

If I was an American I would definitely stay in but I think the Europeans should sort out their own and the Americans theirs.

A New Site I came across today.. It is an American Site.

The Link.... http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/


I agree entirely with their Mission Statement.

Our Mission:
CNI works for U.S. Middle East policies that serve the national interest; that represent the highest values of our founders and our citizens; and that work to sustain a nation of honor, decency, security, and prosperity.
Many of the most serious dangers facing Americans today stem from our highly unusual relationship with Israel.

Our uniquely massive support for Israel has cost trillions of dollars and multitudes of lives. It has diminished our moral standing in the world, lessened our domestic freedoms, and exposed us to unnecessary and growing peril.

The majority of Americans – as well as our diplomatic and military experts – oppose this unique relationship.

Yet, special interest lobbiescontinue to foment policies that are disastrous for our nation and tragic for the region.

If we are to have sensible, effective policies that promote safety rather than danger, then it is essential that all Americans become active and informed. Lives depend on it.





how much fun can it really be to post in a forum where 99% of the people agree?

thats fning boring, dude..


Optomistic69's photo
Tue 11/29/11 05:23 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Tue 11/29/11 05:24 AM


how much fun can it really be to post in a forum where 99% of the people agree?

thats fning boring, dude..



I have no problem with people not agreeing with me.

I do have a problem with people who use Rolling head emoticons on a thread where a young American Girl[Naive...Yes] gets Murdered and I mean Murdered.

Someone called her a moron

Someone pointed out the size of the Bulldozer

Someone asked why she was not restrained from protesting

I ask why a building site required the might of the Israeli Army to demolish a house with a 90 Ton American made Bulldozer that would not be out of Place in Tank Warfare.

Yes It would be boring if were all the same.

No it would not be boring if we all acted as compassionate Human Beings.

Her Murder could have and should have been prevented.