Topic: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Get Destroyed
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Sun 08/28/11 07:57 AM
publication by the National Environmental Health Association quotes Ron Burger, a public health advisor at the National Center for Environmental Health, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who arrived at Ground Zero on the evening of September 12th. Burger stated:

Feeling the heat, seeing the molten steel, the layers upon layers of ash, like lava, it reminded me of Mt. St. Helen’s and the thousands who fled that disaster. 7
An article in The Newsletter of the Structural Engineers Association of Utah describing a speaking appearance by Leslie Robertson (structural engineer responsible for the design of the World Trade Center) contains this passage:

As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running. 8
A member of the New York Air National Guard's 109th Air Wing was at Ground Zero from September 22 to October 6. He kept a journal on which an article containing the following passage is based.

Smoke constantly poured from the peaks. One fireman told us that there was still molten steel at the heart of the towers' remains. Firemen sprayed water to cool the debris down but the heat remained intense enough at the surface to melt their boots. 9

The book American Ground, which contains detailed descriptions of conditions at Ground Zero, contains this passage:

... or, in the early days, the streams of molten metal that leaked from the hot cores and flowed down broken walls inside the foundation hole. 10
A review of of the documentary Collateral Damage in the New York Post describes firemen at Ground Zero recalling "heat so intense they encountered rivers of molten steel." 11


http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/moltensteel.html

Chazster's photo
Sun 08/28/11 09:07 AM


FEMA deathcamps? Really? Where might those be?


google it

fema death camps locations

but dont worry

you dont have to find them

they will find you

lol


Sorry but anyone can but anything online. I can make a website and call myself king of the universe and you can google it. It doesn't make it true.

Bestinshow's photo
Sun 08/28/11 03:23 PM
There was a young man who came in and said to the vice president "The plane [Flight 77] is 50 miles out" [from Washington], "The plane is 30 miles out", and when it got down to "The plane is 10 miles out" the young man also said to the vice president "Do the orders still stand?", and the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary?"
WMV video download (1.8 MB)



It is obvious the above orders did not involve defending Washington
http://whatreallyhappened.com/

no photo
Sun 08/28/11 07:26 PM



FEMA deathcamps? Really? Where might those be?


google it

fema death camps locations

but dont worry

you dont have to find them

they will find you

lol


Sorry but anyone can but anything online. I can make a website and call myself king of the universe and you can google it. It doesn't make it true.


so nothing on the net is true?

any rich idiot can make a tv station and tell you to tune in too

millions of fema coffins dont lie

theres only 1000 camps

do like glen beck and say you investigated 2 so they all must be

lies

he kinda forgot about the 998 others

theres no chemtrails

infomercials are there to inform you

banning all guns would make us safer

the economy is doing great

what else dont you believe?

i was listening to a radio station that said they were mad about the things the government were doing and then the commercials came on and they said make sure you use toothpaste with fluoride(no brand name)and make sure to get get your flu shot.lol

eas emergency alert system takes over my cable box at night it auto-tunes in bs propaganda for me

dont worry your still free as long as you do what your told

Chazster's photo
Sun 08/28/11 11:12 PM




FEMA deathcamps? Really? Where might those be?


google it

fema death camps locations

but dont worry

you dont have to find them

they will find you

lol


Sorry but anyone can but anything online. I can make a website and call myself king of the universe and you can google it. It doesn't make it true.


so nothing on the net is true?

any rich idiot can make a tv station and tell you to tune in too

millions of fema coffins dont lie

theres only 1000 camps

do like glen beck and say you investigated 2 so they all must be

lies

he kinda forgot about the 998 others

theres no chemtrails

infomercials are there to inform you

banning all guns would make us safer

the economy is doing great

what else dont you believe?

i was listening to a radio station that said they were mad about the things the government were doing and then the commercials came on and they said make sure you use toothpaste with fluoride(no brand name)and make sure to get get your flu shot.lol

eas emergency alert system takes over my cable box at night it auto-tunes in bs propaganda for me

dont worry your still free as long as you do what your told



Did I say everything on the net isn't true. I am saying you can't trust it just because its on there. That being said most of the FEMA stuff you hear about is from the hurricanes that hit Louisiana. Seeing that I am in Louisiana and have yet to see these "death camps" I am curious where they are hiding.

Bestinshow's photo
Mon 08/29/11 01:23 PM
The Dog That Did Not Bark


If the events of 9-11 were truly a surprise to the United States Government then there is no way the Secret Service could have known there wasn't a hijacked or stolen plane heading towards Booker Elementary School that very second.

The Secret Service did nothing. The dog did not bark.

The Secret Service should be in that video, but they are not. It is clear from their inaction that they KNEW FOR A FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS NOT A TARGET OF ONE OF THE HIJACKED PLANES. The intended targets of the planes had to have been known.

The dog did not bark because the criminal was its master.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/

I can only imagine the comments if say Obama or Bill Clinton continued to sit in a classroom and read "My Pet Goat" while the country were under attack.......

no photo
Mon 08/29/11 01:34 PM
of course bush knew about everything before it happened. he is a frequent caller to dionne warwick's psychic hotline. she was the one who told him to sit calmly and not send everything america has to shoot down commercial aircraft loaded with civilians (since this tactic of hijacking a plane and flying into buildings has been used thousands of times before, instead of hijacking a plane and diverting it's destination) i gotta know what else bush knew, i'm logging off to call now

Bestinshow's photo
Mon 08/29/11 02:38 PM

of course bush knew about everything before it happened. he is a frequent caller to dionne warwick's psychic hotline. she was the one who told him to sit calmly and not send everything america has to shoot down commercial aircraft loaded with civilians (since this tactic of hijacking a plane and flying into buildings has been used thousands of times before, instead of hijacking a plane and diverting it's destination) i gotta know what else bush knew, i'm logging off to call now
I will try to explain it in a manner that will be easy for you to understand.

1. the secret service is charged with the responsability to protect the president.

2. Knowing planes were hijacked and used as missles they should have wisked president smirky to safety to be safe.

3. They did not either they were totaly negligant or knew what or who the targets realy were.

If this doesnt clear this up feel free to let me know.

no photo
Mon 08/29/11 02:43 PM


of course bush knew about everything before it happened. he is a frequent caller to dionne warwick's psychic hotline. she was the one who told him to sit calmly and not send everything america has to shoot down commercial aircraft loaded with civilians (since this tactic of hijacking a plane and flying into buildings has been used thousands of times before, instead of hijacking a plane and diverting it's destination) i gotta know what else bush knew, i'm logging off to call now
I will try to explain it in a manner that will be easy for you to understand.

1. the secret service is charged with the responsability to protect the president.

2. Knowing planes were hijacked and used as missles they should have wisked president smirky to safety to be safe.

3. They did not either they were totaly negligant or knew what or who the targets realy were.

If this doesnt clear this up feel free to let me know.

thanks, it's as clear to me as this post:
Oh my god I was so wrong. I was out splitting fire wood and stacking it with an occasional ciggerette and politics break when I decided to fire up the grill and make some brauts.

Well there I was happily multi tasking when my grill suddenly collapsed into a pile of twisted and moletn metal. It fell at near free fall speed as if it had been a demolision. I wouldnt had believed it possible unless I had seen it myself.


I was so wrong about 911 I am man enough to admit when I am wrong though.

no photo
Mon 08/29/11 04:48 PM
Edited by volant7 on Mon 08/29/11 04:49 PM



of course bush knew about everything before it happened. he is a frequent caller to dionne warwick's psychic hotline. she was the one who told him to sit calmly and not send everything america has to shoot down commercial aircraft loaded with civilians (since this tactic of hijacking a plane and flying into buildings has been used thousands of times before, instead of hijacking a plane and diverting it's destination) i gotta know what else bush knew, i'm logging off to call now
I will try to explain it in a manner that will be easy for you to understand.

1. the secret service is charged with the responsability to protect the president.

2. Knowing planes were hijacked and used as missles they should have wisked president smirky to safety to be safe.

3. They did not either they were totaly negligant or knew what or who the targets realy were.

If this doesnt clear this up feel free to let me know.

thanks, it's as clear to me as this post:
Oh my god I was so wrong. I was out splitting fire wood and stacking it with an occasional ciggerette and politics break when I decided to fire up the grill and make some brauts.

Well there I was happily multi tasking when my grill suddenly collapsed into a pile of twisted and moletn metal. It fell at near free fall speed as if it had been a demolision. I wouldnt had believed it possible unless I had seen it myself.


I was so wrong about 911 I am man enough to admit when I am wrong though.


we all seem to have the oh siht moment.

heres another when your ready

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/304540

and more

they seem to interlock at some point

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/309355

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/304605

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/304658







no photo
Mon 08/29/11 08:27 PM
While the buildings may not have been a formal controlled demolition, NIST investigations felt they had adequately explained why they thought the building collapsed. They stated that they found no evidence of explosives.

When asked if they looked for evidence of explosives they said no.

They didn't even look.

Great investigators. ohwell

Lpdon's photo
Mon 08/29/11 10:36 PM

There was a young man who came in and said to the vice president "The plane [Flight 77] is 50 miles out" [from Washington], "The plane is 30 miles out", and when it got down to "The plane is 10 miles out" the young man also said to the vice president "Do the orders still stand?", and the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary?"
WMV video download (1.8 MB)



It is obvious the above orders did not involve defending Washington
http://whatreallyhappened.com/


Really? Were you there? Did you hear it with your own ears?

metalwing's photo
Mon 08/29/11 10:54 PM

While the buildings may not have been a formal controlled demolition, NIST investigations felt they had adequately explained why they thought the building collapsed. They stated that they found no evidence of explosives.

When asked if they looked for evidence of explosives they said no.

They didn't even look.

Great investigators. ohwell


They didn't need to. The physics matched the event.

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 08/30/11 02:04 AM


There was a young man who came in and said to the vice president "The plane [Flight 77] is 50 miles out" [from Washington], "The plane is 30 miles out", and when it got down to "The plane is 10 miles out" the young man also said to the vice president "Do the orders still stand?", and the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary?"
WMV video download (1.8 MB)



It is obvious the above orders did not involve defending Washington
http://whatreallyhappened.com/


Really? Were you there? Did you hear it with your own ears?
Mineta was under oath something Bush and Cheneye both refused to do.

You can view his testimony before the 911 commision here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

Chazster's photo
Tue 08/30/11 08:07 AM


While the buildings may not have been a formal controlled demolition, NIST investigations felt they had adequately explained why they thought the building collapsed. They stated that they found no evidence of explosives.

When asked if they looked for evidence of explosives they said no.

They didn't even look.

Great investigators. ohwell


They didn't need to. The physics matched the event.


Its not only that though that is a huge point. The fact that it would take weeks to plant explosives and wire. They would have to tear out walls and stuff to properly place them. Its not something that can be done secretly.

no photo
Tue 08/30/11 08:14 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 08/30/11 08:18 AM


While the buildings may not have been a formal controlled demolition, NIST investigations felt they had adequately explained why they thought the building collapsed. They stated that they found no evidence of explosives.

When asked if they looked for evidence of explosives they said no.

They didn't even look.

Great investigators. ohwell


They didn't need to. The physics matched the event.


That's what they said.

But that is not good investigating. Its completely stupid (or a cover-up.)

So many people claimed (insisted) that they heard explosions, that not investigating for explosives is poor investigating.

Just because they felt that their "physics" matched a theory of the event does not excuse that kind of poor investigating of a crime. They did not know who was behind the attack (supposedly) and to not investigate the possibility of explosives is negligent.

After all, the first time the World Trade Center was attacked, explosives WERE used. Why should the perpetrators have changed their M.O.?

Poor Poor investigating. (Or a cover-up.)

I cannot fathom that they did not even look for signs of explosives. That is absurdly ridiculous.

metalwing's photo
Tue 08/30/11 09:17 AM



While the buildings may not have been a formal controlled demolition, NIST investigations felt they had adequately explained why they thought the building collapsed. They stated that they found no evidence of explosives.

When asked if they looked for evidence of explosives they said no.

They didn't even look.

Great investigators. ohwell


They didn't need to. The physics matched the event.


That's what they said.

But that is not good investigating. Its completely stupid (or a cover-up.)

So many people claimed (insisted) that they heard explosions, that not investigating for explosives is poor investigating.

Just because they felt that their "physics" matched a theory of the event does not excuse that kind of poor investigating of a crime. They did not know who was behind the attack (supposedly) and to not investigate the possibility of explosives is negligent.

After all, the first time the World Trade Center was attacked, explosives WERE used. Why should the perpetrators have changed their M.O.?

Poor Poor investigating. (Or a cover-up.)

I cannot fathom that they did not even look for signs of explosives. That is absurdly ridiculous.


If you go to the toilet and have gas, do you hire an explosives expert to see if someone secretly planted thermite up your azz? Is that not poor investigating on your part not to be absolutely sure a conspiracy was not involved? Since you cannot see for sure (because it is dark) in there shouldn't you get expert confirmation that explosives were not planted by evildodoers?

Just because your head is there does not mean you know what is happening.

no photo
Tue 08/30/11 11:52 AM




While the buildings may not have been a formal controlled demolition, NIST investigations felt they had adequately explained why they thought the building collapsed. They stated that they found no evidence of explosives.

When asked if they looked for evidence of explosives they said no.

They didn't even look.

Great investigators. ohwell


They didn't need to. The physics matched the event.


That's what they said.

But that is not good investigating. Its completely stupid (or a cover-up.)

So many people claimed (insisted) that they heard explosions, that not investigating for explosives is poor investigating.

Just because they felt that their "physics" matched a theory of the event does not excuse that kind of poor investigating of a crime. They did not know who was behind the attack (supposedly) and to not investigate the possibility of explosives is negligent.

After all, the first time the World Trade Center was attacked, explosives WERE used. Why should the perpetrators have changed their M.O.?

Poor Poor investigating. (Or a cover-up.)

I cannot fathom that they did not even look for signs of explosives. That is absurdly ridiculous.


If you go to the toilet and have gas, do you hire an explosives expert to see if someone secretly planted thermite up your azz? Is that not poor investigating on your part not to be absolutely sure a conspiracy was not involved? Since you cannot see for sure (because it is dark) in there shouldn't you get expert confirmation that explosives were not planted by evildodoers?

Just because your head is there does not mean you know what is happening.


You know nothing about investigating a crime.
That is an azzinine response.

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Tue 08/30/11 11:56 AM
Of course a conspiracy was involved.

That is a given.

It is the who, what, when, where, why that is not known.

Unless a single person committed the deed, a conspiracy WAS INVOLVED.

DUH!

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Tue 08/30/11 11:58 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 08/30/11 11:59 AM
If the conspiracy and attack was an inside job, of course they will conduct sloppy investigations. That is a given.

BUT if it was NOT and inside job, that is STILL no reason to conduct a sloppy investigation!

And sloppy it was. Very very sloppy.

But not if it was an inside job... then it was just a sloppy cover-up.