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Topic: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Get Destroyed
volant7 Joined Thu 06/02/11 Posts: 616	Fri 08/26/11 01:53 PM
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Fri 08/26/11 01:56 PM
The impact of the plane alone compromised a number of support trusses because of how the towers were constructed. It then took an hour of bearing additional load plus intense heat to cause enough support failure for the floors above impact to come crashing down. As I pointed out before, the weight of the floors above was about 200x the force of an atomic blast (we are talking about the shockwave which rips buildings apart) once those floors began falling. Not much is going to stop that kind of power, especially when it is confined to a small area such as 200 ft x 200 ft. (The base of the towers was 208 ft on each side.) Explain building 7 Watch the video. It explains a lot about building 7. I have posted links previously to the parts only about building 7. You just choose to ignore them and then ask the same question many pages later.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Fri 08/26/11 02:01 PM
The impact of the plane alone compromised a number of support trusses because of how the towers were constructed. It then took an hour of bearing additional load plus intense heat to cause enough support failure for the floors above impact to come crashing down. As I pointed out before, the weight of the floors above was about 200x the force of an atomic blast (we are talking about the shockwave which rips buildings apart) once those floors began falling. Not much is going to stop that kind of power, especially when it is confined to a small area such as 200 ft x 200 ft. (The base of the towers was 208 ft on each side.) Explain building 7 Watch the video. It explains a lot about building 7. I have posted links previously to the parts only about building 7. You just choose to ignore them and then ask the same question many pages later.

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Fri 08/26/11 02:48 PM
"When you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount." Dakota Indian saying http://agilemindstorm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Dead-Horse-Theory.jpg

volant7 Joined Thu 06/02/11 Posts: 616	Fri 08/26/11 11:46 PM
The impact of the plane alone compromised a number of support trusses because of how the towers were constructed. It then took an hour of bearing additional load plus intense heat to cause enough support failure for the floors above impact to come crashing down. As I pointed out before, the weight of the floors above was about 200x the force of an atomic blast (we are talking about the shockwave which rips buildings apart) once those floors began falling. Not much is going to stop that kind of power, especially when it is confined to a small area such as 200 ft x 200 ft. (The base of the towers was 208 ft on each side.) Explain building 7 Watch the video. It explains a lot about building 7. I have posted links previously to the parts only about building 7. You just choose to ignore them and then ask the same question many pages later. yes i could see one building collapsing all at once now two buildings collapsing the same way like a demolition oh here comes the third just like the first two you can see all the windows being blown out in a row right before it fell what plane hit the third building? give it up did you get your million dollar ticket yet? or will you be left with us?

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 08/27/11 12:09 AM


Dan99 Joined Sat 08/23/08 Posts: 14941	Sat 08/27/11 12:35 AM
I have no clue whatsoever about structural engineering and the physics behind building failures. But i do like to think i have a reasonable amount of common sense. And my common sense tells me that no government or group of people could ever pull off such a task without leaving plenty of conclusive(this is the important word here, no evidence provided by the theorists fits this bill) evidence against them. And something so massive involving as many people as it would have taken to do it, could not possibly be covered up in the way people are saying. To believe the conspiracy theories, you need to be either stupid, crazy or brainwashed. Just like religion. Which one are YOU?

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Sat 08/27/11 01:28 AM
Your righ no plane hit it. A building did collapse on it though. It also had a raging fire in it for what 8 hours that was bed by desiel fuel. It's foundation was not that of a normal sky scrapper either. No demolition explosions were caught on tape. How do you explain that? Noone was wiring the buildings for days. Inside drywall would have even had to have been removed to set proper charges. Why would they fly planes onto them? How could they have the planes hit right where the collapse was going to start? See asking questions is easy.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sat 08/27/11 04:34 AM
I have no clue whatsoever about structural engineering and the physics behind building failures. But i do like to think i have a reasonable amount of common sense. And my common sense tells me that no government or group of people could ever pull off such a task without leaving plenty of conclusive(this is the important word here, no evidence provided by the theorists fits this bill) evidence against them. And something so massive involving as many people as it would have taken to do it, could not possibly be covered up in the way people are saying. To believe the conspiracy theories, you need to be either stupid, crazy or brainwashed. Just like religion. Which one are YOU? You left out one choice; the one where the only goal is to attempt to blame the government and political party at the time of the event... in which case an endless stream of lies, false information, and intellectually dishonest arguments are poured forth forever with no regard to facts or science.

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sat 08/27/11 07:25 AM


Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sat 08/27/11 08:06 AM
I have no clue whatsoever about structural engineering and the physics behind building failures. But i do like to think i have a reasonable amount of common sense. And my common sense tells me that no government or group of people could ever pull off such a task without leaving plenty of conclusive(this is the important word here, no evidence provided by the theorists fits this bill) evidence against them. And something so massive involving as many people as it would have taken to do it, could not possibly be covered up in the way people are saying. To believe the conspiracy theories, you need to be either stupid, crazy or brainwashed. Just like religion. Which one are YOU? I am the guy who thinks it is absurd that the Pentagon would be undefended hours after the twin towers had been hit. I am the guy who watched Norman Mineta testify to the 911 commision UNDER OATH. He was appointed United States Secretary of Transportation by President George W. Bush in 2001. "There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, 'The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.' And when it got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant." I am the guy who read what the designer of the twin towers said about the planes hitting the twin towers. According to [WTC designer Leslie Robertson], New York City has some of the worst wind loads in the nation ... This is because of the occasional wind generated off of the Atlantic Ocean during hurricane season. As a result, buildings in New York City must be designed to be twice as strong as similar buildings designed to withstand an earthquake in Los Angeles. [NYC24] "The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it, that was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building could probably sustain multiple impacts of jet liners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door - this intense grid - and the plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting." http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/trusstheory.html I am the guy who wonders why the president and vic president refused to go under Oath to the 911 commision, after all 911 was used as the excuse for the patriot act and a major war, so why cant we have the truth? I am also the guy who has worked for the same company for 19 years has a union card, owns a home ,a rideing lawnmower a canoe has two cats and two kids I raised myself and the same Gf for three years now. I enjoy camping, hikeing and bike rideing, sitting by the river or by the lake and snuggling with my woman. MY favorite authurs are Noam Chomsky and Kurt Voennegut and Hunter S Thompson. Today I am going to split and stack wood then spend the night at my womans house. Do I feel brainwashed? nope Do I feel or act crazy? nope Do I have many doubts about 911? YOU BETCHYA

Dan99 Joined Sat 08/23/08 Posts: 14941	Sat 08/27/11 08:25 AM
I have no clue whatsoever about structural engineering and the physics behind building failures. But i do like to think i have a reasonable amount of common sense. And my common sense tells me that no government or group of people could ever pull off such a task without leaving plenty of conclusive(this is the important word here, no evidence provided by the theorists fits this bill) evidence against them. And something so massive involving as many people as it would have taken to do it, could not possibly be covered up in the way people are saying. To believe the conspiracy theories, you need to be either stupid, crazy or brainwashed. Just like religion. Which one are YOU? I am the guy who thinks it is absurd that the Pentagon would be undefended hours after the twin towers had been hit. I am the guy who watched Norman Mineta testify to the 911 commision UNDER OATH. He was appointed United States Secretary of Transportation by President George W. Bush in 2001. "There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, 'The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.' And when it got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant." I am the guy who read what the designer of the twin towers said about the planes hitting the twin towers. According to [WTC designer Leslie Robertson], New York City has some of the worst wind loads in the nation ... This is because of the occasional wind generated off of the Atlantic Ocean during hurricane season. As a result, buildings in New York City must be designed to be twice as strong as similar buildings designed to withstand an earthquake in Los Angeles. [NYC24] "The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it, that was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building could probably sustain multiple impacts of jet liners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door - this intense grid - and the plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting." http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/trusstheory.html I am the guy who wonders why the president and vic president refused to go under Oath to the 911 commision, after all 911 was used as the excuse for the patriot act and a major war, so why cant we have the truth? I am also the guy who has worked for the same company for 19 years has a union card, owns a home ,a rideing lawnmower a canoe has two cats and two kids I raised myself and the same Gf for three years now. I enjoy camping, hikeing and bike rideing, sitting by the river or by the lake and snuggling with my woman. MY favorite authurs are Noam Chomsky and Kurt Voennegut and Hunter S Thompson. Today I am going to split and stack wood then spend the night at my womans house. Do I feel brainwashed? nope Do I feel or act crazy? nope Do I have many doubts about 911? YOU BETCHYA You are the guy that fits into the fourth category which Metalwing described.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sat 08/27/11 08:28 AM
I have no clue whatsoever about structural engineering and the physics behind building failures. But i do like to think i have a reasonable amount of common sense. And my common sense tells me that no government or group of people could ever pull off such a task without leaving plenty of conclusive(this is the important word here, no evidence provided by the theorists fits this bill) evidence against them. And something so massive involving as many people as it would have taken to do it, could not possibly be covered up in the way people are saying. To believe the conspiracy theories, you need to be either stupid, crazy or brainwashed. Just like religion. Which one are YOU? I am the guy who thinks it is absurd that the Pentagon would be undefended hours after the twin towers had been hit. I am the guy who watched Norman Mineta testify to the 911 commision UNDER OATH. He was appointed United States Secretary of Transportation by President George W. Bush in 2001. "There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, 'The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.' And when it got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant." I am the guy who read what the designer of the twin towers said about the planes hitting the twin towers. According to [WTC designer Leslie Robertson], New York City has some of the worst wind loads in the nation ... This is because of the occasional wind generated off of the Atlantic Ocean during hurricane season. As a result, buildings in New York City must be designed to be twice as strong as similar buildings designed to withstand an earthquake in Los Angeles. [NYC24] "The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it, that was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building could probably sustain multiple impacts of jet liners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door - this intense grid - and the plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting." http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/trusstheory.html I am the guy who wonders why the president and vic president refused to go under Oath to the 911 commision, after all 911 was used as the excuse for the patriot act and a major war, so why cant we have the truth? I am also the guy who has worked for the same company for 19 years has a union card, owns a home ,a rideing lawnmower a canoe has two cats and two kids I raised myself and the same Gf for three years now. I enjoy camping, hikeing and bike rideing, sitting by the river or by the lake and snuggling with my woman. MY favorite authurs are Noam Chomsky and Kurt Voennegut and Hunter S Thompson. Today I am going to split and stack wood then spend the night at my womans house. Do I feel brainwashed? nope Do I feel or act crazy? nope Do I have many doubts about 911? YOU BETCHYA You are the guy that fits into the fourth category which Metalwing described. Nope I m the guy who finds the fable of 911 absurd on many levels and if Obama were president when it happened I would feel the same.

Dan99 Joined Sat 08/23/08 Posts: 14941	Sat 08/27/11 08:32 AM
I am offering no other categories for you to place yourself in. Stupid, crazy, brainwashed, Bush hater. Take your pick. I do not need or want to know your answer.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sat 08/27/11 08:38 AM Edited by Bestinshow on Sat 08/27/11 08:41 AM
I am offering no other categories for you to place yourself in. Stupid, crazy, brainwashed, Bush hater. Take your pick. I do not need or want to know your answer. According to the new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks: "Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying? Telling the truth 16% Hiding something 53% Mostly lying 28% Not sure 3%" http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=3553

Dan99 Joined Sat 08/23/08 Posts: 14941	Sat 08/27/11 08:46 AM
I am placing you into a category. You will have to guess which one i am placing you into.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sat 08/27/11 09:22 AM
I am placing you into a category. You will have to guess which one i am placing you into. You would have to place me in the majority my friend according to this poll I have good company. Scientific Poll: 84% Reject Official 9/11 Story Only 16% now believe official fable according to New York Times/CBS News poll According to the new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks: "Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying? Telling the truth 16% Hiding something 53% Mostly lying 28% Not sure 3%" The 84% figure mirrors other recent polls on the same issue. A Canadian Poll put the figure at 85%. A CNN poll had the figure at 89%. Over 80% supported the stance of Charlie Sheen when he went public with his opinions on 9/11 as an inside job. A recent CNN poll found that the percentage of Americans who blame the Bush administration for the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington rose from almost a third to almost half over the past four years. This latest poll shows that that figure has again risen exponentially and now stands at well over three quarters of the population. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=3553

trevindazone Joined Thu 08/25/11 Posts: 2	Sat 08/27/11 09:26 AM
so these terrorists some of whom appear to have miraculously survived the crash and having little or no training on these aircraft produce a fantastic display all over the us of a and sit idly by as someone has already said follow the money

trevindazone Joined Thu 08/25/11 Posts: 2	Sat 08/27/11 09:29 AM
i get the feelin youll believe any old shite

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sat 08/27/11 09:34 AM
so these terrorists some of whom appear to have miraculously survived the crash and having little or no training on these aircraft produce a fantastic display all over the us of a and sit idly by as someone has already said follow the money Lets just assume for a minute it did happen like that. What were their goals? to bring america to its knees. they won and we are on our knees economicly and socialy we are a nation divided and broke. It would appear to me looking at this objectivly we lost totaly. But somehow durring all this the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. All those trillions wasted on a war we have lost. Yup they hated us for our freedoms and the Great Georbe Bush Jr once said. "Americans are asking, why do they hate us? They hate what we see right here in this chamber -- a democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms - George W. Bush White House News Release, September 20, 2001 http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Why_do_they_hate_us%3F Well now we have less freedoms and we are broke. looks like we lost eh?