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Wow 13 pages.... sorry I don't have time to read them. People will probably believe what they want to believe. I would prefer to believe that our government is made up of a bunch of lily white good-guys and that they never ever lie to the public, but that rose colored delusion has crashed and burned years ago. Neither do I believe that 9-11 was a total government conspiracy. It was certainly some kind of conspiracy, I'll give you that. Someone had to have planned it and pulled it off. I've certainly not been convinced it was a bunch of third world Islamic nut jobs either. I heard somewhere that skyscrapers are now being built with built in demolition plans and are pretty easy to implement. Tall buildings in Las Vegas go up in less than six months and come down overnight. They build things now in anticipation of demolition. I tried to put on my rose colored glasses and I really tried real hard to believe the official story but my lie detector and my bull shyt detector when off like crazy. I also know there are dozens of crack pot nut-job conspiracy theories out there, and I've seen a lot of them. They are very easy to debunk. I would not be surprised if these were the ones they are debunking on this special. I haven't seen it yet, but I will try to catch it. Just because they took great effort and care to debunk a few bad (possibly dis-information theories) does not mean that they are going to get off with a clean slate. There is still something very very rotten in the State of Denmark. (That's Shakespeare.) According to the new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks: "Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying? Telling the truth 16% Hiding something 53% Mostly lying 28% Not sure 3%" The 84% figure mirrors other recent polls on the same issue. A Canadian Poll put the figure at 85%. A CNN poll had the figure at 89%. Over 80% supported the stance of Charlie Sheen when he went public with his opinions on 9/11 as an inside job. I would say at my work its about 70%. We are a mixed lot of guys about a third white a third black the rest lationo or other. We are all basicly middle class males with at least 15 years of service. Thats exactly why south park said 1/4 (because there source was 25%) of Americans are retarded. YOU HAVE TO ASK?!?!?!?!?!  I'm goin' down to South Park gonna have myself a time, (Kyle + Stan) Friendly faces everwhere humble folks without temptation, I'm goin' down to South Park gonna leave my woes behind, (Cartman) Ample Parking Day or Night, people spouting, "Howdy, Neighbor" I'm headin' down to South Park gonna see if I can't unwind, (Kenny) I like girls with big vagina, I like girls with big fat ******* So come on down to South Park, and meet some friends of mine. For years I only suspected what Kenny was saying in the intro! 
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Wow 13 pages.... sorry I don't have time to read them. People will probably believe what they want to believe. I would prefer to believe that our government is made up of a bunch of lily white good-guys and that they never ever lie to the public, but that rose colored delusion has crashed and burned years ago. Neither do I believe that 9-11 was a total government conspiracy. It was certainly some kind of conspiracy, I'll give you that. Someone had to have planned it and pulled it off. I've certainly not been convinced it was a bunch of third world Islamic nut jobs either. I heard somewhere that skyscrapers are now being built with built in demolition plans and are pretty easy to implement. Tall buildings in Las Vegas go up in less than six months and come down overnight. They build things now in anticipation of demolition. I tried to put on my rose colored glasses and I really tried real hard to believe the official story but my lie detector and my bull shyt detector when off like crazy. I also know there are dozens of crack pot nut-job conspiracy theories out there, and I've seen a lot of them. They are very easy to debunk. I would not be surprised if these were the ones they are debunking on this special. I haven't seen it yet, but I will try to catch it. Just because they took great effort and care to debunk a few bad (possibly dis-information theories) does not mean that they are going to get off with a clean slate. There is still something very very rotten in the State of Denmark. (That's Shakespeare.) It was a conspiracy, I never said it wasn't It was a conspiracy between members of AQ, The Taliban and other Muslim Terrorist Orginizations. That is your opinion. I am not convinced it was who you say it was. Not enough evidence that they could have pulled off such an event. BTW did they explain why Israeli mossad was caught filming and dancing around celebrating the event and did they explain why these men were released? Did they explain who filmed the first plane hitting the tower from a building across town? Did they explain why George bush TWICE said that he saw the FIRST PLANE hit the tower on television? Did your debunking video explain those things? Ummmmm, probably because he did see the first plane hit the towers on television as did every American who watched the clip play over and over again within a couple of minutes of it hitting the building. Geez. he was in a classroom talking with kids when it happened, he had no way of watching it, that statement about him saying is false... http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232686-Behind-the-mask-of-sanity-Bush-says-slow-reaction-on-9-11-was-deliberate-decision I don't remember when he said it, but im sure someone traveling with the President has a portible tv......... WOW for someone who claims to know so much, you are really ill informed. The first plane hitting the tower was never on television before Bush was informed of the attack of the second plane. Nobody could have seen it. He told that story TWICE. There is no way anyone could have seen any video of the first plane hitting the tower except the people responsible for it who were filming it. So how did Bush see the first plane hit the tower unless the CIA filmed it and showed it to him? Which means they must have been involved, and they must have known about it in advance. So I ask again, did your debunking show address that little fact? Did it explain why the dancing Israeli Mossad agents who filmed the entire event were let go? Did it show the film of Silvertstein ordering building # 7 to be "pulled?" Did it show that video??? Probably not. Wow, so then he misspoke big deal. Kinda like Obama saying he visited all 58 states except for Alaska and Hawaii? Withing the hour vidoes of the first plane hitting the tower was playing on tv, there was a local reporter covering an unrelated story by the world trade center that day and began filming the sky then they noticed a plane flying lower then normal and close to buildings. The Mossad video has been debunked numerous times. |
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My, I can see how short some people's memories are. I remember seeing the first impact video. And what was Bush supposed to do exactly, jump up out of his seat and scare a bunch of kids as he changes into Super-Bush?
 Captain Texas, Larger than LIFE! |
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Bush claims to have seen the first plane hit tower.
[ir;]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-h4Zc57QKg http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bushlie.html I myself saw a copy of his exact words on the U.S. government website. I can't find it now, because I don't know if it is still available. |
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Take that over sized picture off of this thread so
I can read the thread. The video of the first plane hitting the tower did not show up on television until the next day. You have a short memory. If Bush saw it on t.v. on the same day, there is something really wrong with that picture. Did your de-bunking show address that I ask again? Well did it? |
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Take that over sized picture off of this thread so I can read the thread. The video of the first plane hitting the tower did not show up on television until the next day. You have a short memory. If Bush saw it on t.v. on the same day, there is something really wrong with that picture. Did your de-bunking show address that I ask again? Well did it? i remember that morning, i watched both planes hit, and both towers fall where is the video of bush saying this? it was not the next day, it was about 20 minutes after the first plane hit when they showed it on tv |
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Wow, so then he misspoke big deal. Kinda like Obama saying he visited all 58 states except for Alaska and Hawaii? Withing the hour vidoes of the first plane hitting the tower was playing on tv, there was a local reporter covering an unrelated story by the world trade center that day and began filming the sky then they noticed a plane flying lower then normal and close to buildings. The Mossad video has been debunked numerous times. Misspoke? He told this story TWICE. He said he saw that first plane hit the tower before he went into that classroom... TWICE!! That is not a mistake anyone could have made on purpose. A mistake? What a load of crap. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 08/03/11 08:01 PM
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Take that over sized picture off of this thread so I can read the thread. The video of the first plane hitting the tower did not show up on television until the next day. You have a short memory. If Bush saw it on t.v. on the same day, there is something really wrong with that picture. Did your de-bunking show address that I ask again? Well did it? i remember that morning, i watched both planes hit, and both towers fall where is the video of bush saying this? it was not the next day, it was about 20 minutes after the first plane hit when they showed it on tv You do NOT remember correctly. There simply was no video of the first plane hitting the tower on the first day. You guys are totally unreliable and don't know what you are talking about. Go back and do some real research. |
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Edited by
mightymoe
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Wed 08/03/11 08:08 PM
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now you are in a position to tell me what i remember?
where is your video of bush saying that? watch this... LIVE CNN ON THE AIR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wd6ZgWq5gA |
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I posted a link above did you miss it?
Bush claims to have seen the first plane hit tower. [ir;]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-h4Zc57QKg http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bushlie.html I myself saw a copy of his exact words on the U.S. government website. I can't find it now, because I don't know if it is still available. |
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People's memories are not reliable. Look for the facts.
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Blow by blow account of Bush's movements on 9-11
http://www.historycommons.org/essay.jsp?article=essayaninterestingday |
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so on mythbusters they debunked hydrogen hho gas for the last time saying it definitely does not work.
i showed someone what i was doing and they were amazed then were screaming i was going to blow up the house with water now there were saying i fooled them and thought i showed them a magic trick i showed them it worked and they still dont believe it thats the power of tv |
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My, I can see how short some people's memories are. I remember seeing the first impact video. And what was Bush supposed to do exactly, jump up out of his seat and scare a bunch of kids as he changes into Super-Bush? Captain Texas, Larger than LIFE! Hell no, President Bush was professional, calm, cool and collect. |
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Blow by blow account of Bush's movements on 9-11 http://www.historycommons.org/essay.jsp?article=essayaninterestingday Jules Naudet (born Paris, France, April 26, 1973) and Thomas Gédéon Naudet (born Paris, France, March 27, 1970) are French filmmakers. The brothers, residents of the United States since 1989, were in New York City at the time of the September 11, 2001 attacks. Jules captured footage of American Airlines Flight 11 hitting the North tower of the World Trade Center. There are two points of view from two cameras shot by both brothers of events occurring at the same time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_and_Gedeon_Naudet |
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Jules Naudet, a French cameraman, and Pavel Hlava, a Czech immigrant, filmed the crash. A webcam set up by Wolfgang Staehle at an art exhibit in Brooklyn to take images of Lower Manhattan every four seconds also captured images of Flight 11 crashing into the North Tower. A WNYW newscamera left rolling on the ground also captured audio of the crash and video of the immediate aftermath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_11 |
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9:02:59: Flight 175 crashes at about 590 mph (950 km/h) into the south face of the South Tower (2 WTC) of the World Trade Center, banked between floors 77 and 85. By this time, several media organizations, including the three major broadcast networks (who have interrupted their morning shows), are covering the first plane crash—millions see the impact live. Parts of the plane leave the building from its east and north sides, falling to the ground six blocks away.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_for_the_day_of_the_September_11_attacks |
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Several eyewitness accounts and camera footage reveal that the plane was coming in at an angle, and was seen to turn drastically to the left to be able to hit the tower, unlike its predecessor, Flight 11, which had been able to hit the North Tower straight on. Thus, it is believed that had the plane continued flying straight, it would have at least simply clipped the side of the building with its left wing, or even missed the building entirely.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_for_the_day_of_the_September_11_attacks |
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The point is not that there exists videos of the first plane.
The point is that these videos of the first plane hitting the tower were not shown on any television that morning that it happened. Bush claims he saw the first plane hit the tower on television. Then they informed him of the second plane. This is impossible... unless he had a privileged viewing of the incident which would have required advanced knowledge of it. Also, if you don't remove that ridiculously large picture I can't read your posts. geeeeeze |
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I thought i remembered seeing the crash on tv. hmmm
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