Topic: Update On Obama's Approval ratings
mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/11/11 10:30 PM

So we take what little those people do have away from them?


don't take anything away from them, just give them less... necessity is the mother of all inventions...

Lpdon's photo
Mon 07/11/11 10:44 PM


read the posts and quit trying to start ****....


One of the really cool things about being me is that I don't work for you, and I don't have to take orders from you.
there is nothing cool about you...if you don't like what i say, then don't respond, especially with your ignorant edits...


That's what im saying, I'd love for him to come out to Reno I'd give him a PERSONAL tour. :thumbsup:

creativesoul's photo
Mon 07/11/11 10:44 PM
This looks like it is going to be a short-lived conversation. I have little patience for people who do not make sense. "Giving them less" is, by definition, taking away some of what was.

"Necessity is the mother of all invention" is completely false to begin with. If that were the case, no invention would be useless, and we could not do without any of them. Evidently we have two completely different ideas of what constitutes necessity.

Are you advocating taking money from the poorest members of society?

Lpdon's photo
Mon 07/11/11 10:46 PM

I guess nobody is able to give me an answer. Just hurling personal insults isn't much of a substitute for an honest answer. I guess you only do what you can do.


Your the only one who said anything derogatory about African American's in this thread. Which you still haven't responded to by the way.

Just sayin'.........

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/11/11 10:53 PM

This looks like it is going to be a short-lived conversation. I have little patience for people who do not make sense. "Giving them less" is, by definition, taking away some of what was.

"Necessity is the mother of all invention" is completely false to begin with. If that were the case, no invention would be useless, and we could not do without any of them. Evidently we have two completely different ideas of what constitutes necessity.

Are you advocating taking money from the poorest members of society?


have i said something different?

creativesoul's photo
Mon 07/11/11 10:55 PM
It is a simple question with a simple answer. You've yet to give one.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/11/11 10:59 PM

It is a simple question with a simple answer. You've yet to give one.


ok, since liberals don't seem to understand comprehension,


yes, that is what i am saying... i can't say it any more simple...

creativesoul's photo
Mon 07/11/11 11:05 PM
Why is taking from the poorest members of society necessary?

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/11/11 11:08 PM

Why is taking from the poorest members of society necessary?

to help them help themselves... you can give a man a fish, but that lasts for one meal, but teach him how to fish, then he can eat for a lifetime.

creativesoul's photo
Mon 07/11/11 11:16 PM
The programs that teach skilled positions would be cut if you take away what they have, because that is part of that 'welfare' budget. Again, you're not making much sense.

If we were to hypothetically take away unemployment insurance, what do you think that that dollar amount would be better used for? Keep in mind that you'd have millions and millions and millions of people not only without a job, but also without any means to support themselves or their kids. There are still no jobs, mind you.

After you look up the amount of money, tell me... Is doing that necessary and how would it be helpful?

d24's photo
Mon 07/11/11 11:24 PM
Edited by d24 on Mon 07/11/11 11:27 PM
Watched O.ne B.ad A.$$ M.istake A.merica live today...He sure is stressed out these days






mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/11/11 11:27 PM

The programs that teach skilled positions would be cut if you take away what they have, because that is part of that 'welfare' budget. Again, you're not making much sense.

If we were to hypothetically take away unemployment insurance, what do you think that that dollar amount would be better used for? Keep in mind that you'd have millions and millions and millions of people not only without a job, but also without any means to support themselves or their kids. There are still no jobs, mind you.

After you look up the amount of money, tell me... Is doing that necessary and how would it be helpful?


not making sense? instead of just giving someone something, help them find a job or teach them a skill is not making sense? why is it liberals just want to throw money at a problem, then pat themselves on the back saying they are so nice? fix the problem, don't make it worse. have you ever fed a stray dog? it will keep coming back as long as you give it free food, not wanting to go out and fend for itself... people are the same way, why should they go out and work when the government gives them everything?

creativesoul's photo
Mon 07/11/11 11:41 PM
Edited by creativesoul on Mon 07/11/11 11:42 PM
Yes, you're not making sense. What you've suggested is already in place. That is part of the funding allocation. If we were to remove those funds, we would also remove those teaching programs.

Your posts suggest that you believe that unemployment insurance benefits are only received by lazy people or something to that effect. Is that what you believe? As if unemployment is a significant part of, or perhaps a problem in and of itself. Do you realize that one must have worked fulltime for an extended period of time, all the while paying into the program, prior to ever receiving the insurance benefits?

On the most generous scales, all social welfare money combined is only about 12 to 14% of the national budget.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/11/11 11:49 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Mon 07/11/11 11:50 PM
Your posts suggest that you believe that unemployment insurance benefits are only received by lazy people or something to that effect. Is that what you believe?


no, i believe the unemployment makes people lazy...it did for me and everyone i know that is/was on it... i'm not saying i have all the answers, but what i have seen and been through have lead me to this point of view. your right, not all people fit into that "stereotype", but the ones that do bleed the system. unemployment is supposed to be a temporary deal, to help out till you find a job, not to be on for 3 years like lots of people have been...

creativesoul's photo
Tue 07/12/11 12:03 AM
Do we stop selling cars because people kill others with them? Do we stop opening stores because people steal from them? Do we stop selling medicine because people misuse it?

I think that you're not looking at this from a reasonable perspective. Just because you and your friends abused the system, does not mean everyone will or does. Some people work their entire lives without ever collecting.

What we need is good paying jobs for the average citizen. Good schools for the average citizen. Etc. We need not take what little poor people have only to turn around and give it to the wealthiest members of society. That is exactly what the GOP is attempting to do. They should all be impeached for breaching public trust. They are financed by multimillion dollar corporations and 'big oil', and it is those interests that they seek to satisfy.

Thomas Jefferson once wrote something to the effect of anytime their is a conflict of interest between the poor and the wealthy, we should always err on the side of the poor.

All poor people are not lazy.

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/12/11 12:09 AM


Why is taking from the poorest members of society necessary?

to help them help themselves... you can give a man a fish, but that lasts for one meal, but teach him how to fish, then he can eat for a lifetime.



but if you take away the fishing lessons to teach the wealthy how to make more money,, you dont accomplish much except for less production, less money to purchase products, and a cycle of recession,,,

mightymoe's photo
Tue 07/12/11 12:11 AM

Do we stop selling cars because people kill others with them? Do we stop opening stores because people steal from them? Do we stop selling medicine because people misuse it?

I think that you're not looking at this from a reasonable perspective. Just because you and your friends abused the system, does not mean everyone will or does. Some people work their entire lives without ever collecting.

What we need is good paying jobs for the average citizen. Good schools for the average citizen. Etc. We need not take what little poor people have only to turn around and give it to the wealthiest members of society. That is exactly what the GOP is attempting to do. They should all be impeached for breaching public trust. They are financed by multimillion dollar corporations and 'big oil', and it is those interests that they seek to satisfy.

Thomas Jefferson once wrote something to the effect of anytime their is a conflict of interest between the poor and the wealthy, we should always err on the side of the poor.

All poor people are not lazy.

nice liberal attitude... not buying it tho...

creativesoul's photo
Tue 07/12/11 12:15 AM
Attitude supported by fact is better than attitude supported by ignorance.


msharmony's photo
Tue 07/12/11 12:16 AM

Do we stop selling cars because people kill others with them? Do we stop opening stores because people steal from them? Do we stop selling medicine because people misuse it?

I think that you're not looking at this from a reasonable perspective. Just because you and your friends abused the system, does not mean everyone will or does. Some people work their entire lives without ever collecting.

What we need is good paying jobs for the average citizen. Good schools for the average citizen. Etc. We need not take what little poor people have only to turn around and give it to the wealthiest members of society. That is exactly what the GOP is attempting to do. They should all be impeached for breaching public trust. They are financed by multimillion dollar corporations and 'big oil', and it is those interests that they seek to satisfy.

Thomas Jefferson once wrote something to the effect of anytime their is a conflict of interest between the poor and the wealthy, we should always err on the side of the poor.

All poor people are not lazy.




truly, we focus too much on the punitive and not enough on the preventive in this country,,,

mightymoe's photo
Tue 07/12/11 12:19 AM

Attitude supported by fact is better than attitude supported by ignorance.




maybe you study more psychology then... no reason to call yourself ignorant...