I was being sarcastic num nut.

Obama will probably win again. I hope he gets out of there for his own good myself.

before he messes things up so bad we go into armed rebellion against our own government???

That could happen anyway.

I bet China would crap a rock if they seen us do in our own government to clean up the corruption. Why? I wonder how much monkey business they are responsible for here!

I know but I had to call you on it.

Monkey business? Thats a great idea! I bet we could really fix the country if we replaced all our politicians with monkeys. They would probably get more done.

He was a man, we ALL think the same way. It is what it is.

And they wonder why we don't take their ideas seriously.

He taught that black people were the original people of the world,and that white people were a race of devils. In his speeches, Malcolm X said that black people were superior to white people, and that the demise of the white race was imminent. While the civil rights movement fought against racial segregation, Malcolm X advocated the complete separation of African Americans from white people. He proposed the establishment of a separate country for black people as an interim measure until African Americans could return to Africa. Malcolm X also rejected the civil rights movement's strategy of nonviolence, and instead advocated that black people use any necessary means of self-defense to protect themselves. Malcolm X's speeches had a powerful effect on his audiences, generally African Americans who lived in the Northern and Western cities, who were tired of being told to wait for freedom, justice, equality and respect. Many blacks felt that he articulated their complaints better than the civil rights movement did.

Many white people, and some blacks, were alarmed by Malcolm X and the things he said. He and the Nation of Islam were described as hatemongers, black supremacists, violence-seekers, and a threat to improved race relations. Civil rights organizations denounced Malcolm X and the Nation as irresponsible extremists whose views were not representative of African Americans. Malcolm X was accused of being antisemitic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_x

Hell, Dr. King even refused to meet with him on several occasions. The ONLY time they were EVER together was for a Senate Committee hearing in Washington where they either arrived at the same time or left at the same time and were together less then a minute only enough time to take one picture of the one and only meeting.

Malcom X left the Black Muslims and rejected their ways. That's why they killed him.

What he believed as far as his religion and God was concerned was that it was personal. He said that people should keep their religious beliefs personal to them because religious beliefs separate people.

At the end of his life he was a humanitarian. You don't know the true history of Malcom X.

I guess this is an argument of some kind. I'm not sure what it's supposed to prove. the whole world knows that King's whole thing was Ghandiesk passivism. and X was more militant and aggressive. Some Conservatives here advocate violence over arguments about things like Labor Unions and taxes.

What is your point?

It does seem strange that the people here who seem most aggressive and war-like in this thread, praise King's passiveness and criticize Malcomx's more militant stance just because it was directed at the white establishment. For him, that was the enemy.

We, as a nation, chose the militant aggressive path. All races participate in our wars.

No, he got killed because he inspired violence. He continued inspiring violence and making militant statements long after he left the NOI. The statement about JFK's Death is a perfect example.

Malcolm X's death wasn't about the NOI(since that has now been proven) but about Karma coming to collect.

Really? Please enlighten me, when have I EVER advocated the killing of ANY elected US official? Oh wait, I haven't. EVER. No matter what political party they belong to.

BUT that's exactly the kind of actions Malcolm X preached and praised.

It's hypocrisy. When they condemn people for their militancy, it's not because they reject hatred or violence. It's because they can't understand why they would be the object of hatred. Hatred and violence is perfectly fine with them as long as it's directed toward the right people.

So, Jeannie, here's a hypothetical. Say the country you love is at risk of being taken over by the evil of , say, a corporate fascist dictatorship. Which approach would you prefer to take? A more militant, possibly violent strategy, or the MLK passive strategy?

My answer is again to try to work within the system and keep them from achieving their goal but voters are the weak spot. Like I have argued before Sr Citizens are lead by their nose with issues surrounding their social security. Poor people vote for more hand outs and government help. These sheep vote only on self interest. Now say said organization began to go Adolph Hitler on us???

Time to arm up, man up and nut up and go after the head of the snake. the man in the president seat is not the problem, the corporate officers are. Guess who I will be out to kill? Not the elected official.

So what do we do when a political party goes rogue like the Democratic Party has? The Republican party is evil but they are not out killing people or advocating hate groups like ACORN and others! Not all weeds can be killed by pulling plant unless you pull the roots too.

The GREATEST problem facing this nation is that Corporations have rights like people without the responsibility.

Neither. I'm too old to care.

Malcolm was the anger showing of the mistreatment of blacks by whites in this country. Malcolm had an important role to play in the movement from oppression into non oppression which still hasn't happened all the way yet.

Malcolm encouraged blacks to do what whites were doing. Carrying weapons for protection. Fighting for their freedom.

Islam is what brought him out to do the good he did and ended his life when he realized that he did not have to "hate" whites to do good.

Malcolm was an important person in our history. He shows that when a black men does what white men were already doing, it comes across differently somehow. Wrongly.

When I saw the first post, I knew exactly where this topic was headed... Anyway, why does everyone always expect the president to do everything that he promised to do. There are many, many things that the potential president doesn't know, until he's sworn into office. And some of those things do have influence on things that the candidate may have promised to change, such as a war. Not only that, but he gets berated when he compromises with the republicans. I think compromise is better than a stagnant government. And as far as rebellion in the U.S... Yeah right... Our government's not perfect, not by a long-shot, but it's far better than most other governments around. Just my two cents...