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If god is pissed and is going to destroy us with his wrath it will more likely be for KILLING EACH OTHER IN HIS NAME!!!!!!! But hey, now the haters can blame the end of the world on the fags and dikes  I think it is silly to compare 'wrongs' int his way or give any one so much weight over another.... I think there is plenty that humans do to each other and themselves and against 'God' ,that will culminate into an ending (or rebirth) its rather illogical to think we can 'blame' any one thing specifically |
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so if there is a god, and he is against it, why? wouldn't there be a reason behind it? According to the Bible, God created men and women to be matching pairs. Men are made for women and vise versa. So homosexuality goes against his plan for humanity. huh... so homos are kind of like a rebel teenager then... No, that's what Pat Robertson, some Christians and most non-Christians are mistaken on. Jesus taught that we are all rebel children, not that some of us are good and some are bad. Jesus said that we are all disobedient and need forgiveness. I'm no more or less sinful than the average homosexual. My job is to show homosexuals the love that Jesus has for them, not condemn or judge. But Jesus didn't teach against homosexuality. he didnt teach against beastiality or pedophilia or any host of other things too,, I guess he may have been in a time when some things were (as Kleisto often says),, 'common' sense,,,, |
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there is no quote in the new testament on Jesus preaching anything against homosexuals,hell some people even think Jesus himself was gay,after all he sure had alot of male followers,just sayin.  Want you to notice the sexually immoral. Homosexuality would fall into this category. It is immoral for again sex is for reproduction and the making of a family. Homosexuals can not do this, it is purely for the physical lust, Hoe do you what a gay person feels?? Ever been gay??? It's called LOVE, get it.. love? Do you know what that is out side of your scriptures? love and sex are seperate, like anger and violence love and anger are EMOTIONS, sex and violence are actions we engage in to express the feelings emotions may or may not be chosen, actions always are,, |
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there is no quote in the new testament on Jesus preaching anything against homosexuals,hell some people even think Jesus himself was gay,after all he sure had alot of male followers,just sayin. Want you to notice the sexually immoral. Homosexuality would fall into this category. It is immoral for again sex is for reproduction and the making of a family. Homosexuals can not do this, it is purely for the physical lust, which is then what classifies it as immoral. It does nothing positive for the world, the community, or the person. It is a physical desire, lust. So don't tell me Jesus never taught against homosexuality. Think this will clarify this statement as well. Jesus had male followers for men are the leaders, they are the one's that are in charge with teaching the family of the laws of our lord. The man is responsible for making a God loving family. They are the one's to spread the word of God. Thus the reason Jesus had male disciples. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NIV, 1st Corinthians 6:9-11) not a contradiction, the context of Mark was in response to a question about what to 'eat',, ie,, FOOD that enters the body sexual immorality was not wiped away with this statement, as it would be (IMHO) unreasonable to assume this statement made in response to a question about food was meant to pertain to sexual activity |
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Cowboy wrote: Is it a hateful thing to tell someone of their wrong doings? Yes, it is Cowboy. Jesus taught not to judge others. So what the hell are you doing judging other people to be doing wrong things? And you're even claiming to be judging them in Jesus' name?  How hypocritical is that? Jesus taught not to be a hypocrite,, he didnt teach not to judge he actually gave instructions as to 'how' we should judge( remove speck from brothers eye, but AFTER removing our own,,etc,,,) judgment is a natural tendency of the human brain, but when we are trying to discern 'right' from 'wrong' we must judge with consistency and live by the standard we uphold others too |
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mightymoe said... hasdic jews still put sheets between them when they have sex, to cut down the enjoyment from it... http://upstel.net/~rooster/hasid2.html#HASID2-Q8 Q-8: Do Hasidim really have sex through a hole in a sheet? -13: NO! According to urban legend, this silly rumor got started in the ghettos of Europe, where some people saw the four-cornered garments with fringes (which do have a hole in the middle for the head) hanging on the wash line. They didn't know what they were for, so their imaginations took over... Hasidism -- and Judaism in general -- regards sex as a natural and beautiful thing, so long as it remains between spouses in privacy. The fact that Hasidim tend to have a lot of children should tell you that we have nothing against sex! We do, however, object to seeing intimate moments and bare bodies in movies and billboards, because we feel it cheapens something that is sacred and private. I suppose this is also the place to dispel the urban legend about how Hasidim supposedly display the bloody sheets on the morning after the wedding night to prove the bride was a virgin. No, we don't do that one, either. There was a scene spoofing this in the movie Yentl but, as I explained in Part 1, Question 9 of this FAQ, "Yentl" is a comedy, not a documentary -- and like most comedies, it's full of absurd cliches. An in-depth discussion discussion of the "hole in the sheet" urban legend can be found on the Snopes.com site (debunking urban legends) at http://www.snopes.com/religion/sheet.htm. snopes lies... when i lived in miami beach, several hasdics told me they still follow the practice... and again..how sad for them taught to be ashamed of their bodies and to NOT enjoy the physical act of love making our bodies are designed to ENJOY sex god could have put us together in a way that procreation would not have been so enjoyable, but "HE didn't. sexual dysfunction I dont think its healthy to be ashamed of the body but I do believe thats different from having discretion about how to treat it and use it,,, |
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So take it we all can agree Pat Robertson is waiting for a UFO in a comet too?
Knock knock knockn' on Heaven's gate! |
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Pat Robertson will do anything for ratings,hell he said the world is gonna end in 1982.Didn't he even try to run for president?...lol.
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so if there is a god, and he is against it, why? wouldn't there be a reason behind it? According to the Bible, God created men and women to be matching pairs. Men are made for women and vise versa. So homosexuality goes against his plan for humanity. huh... so homos are kind of like a rebel teenager then... No, that's what Pat Robertson, some Christians and most non-Christians are mistaken on. Jesus taught that we are all rebel children, not that some of us are good and some are bad. Jesus said that we are all disobedient and need forgiveness. I'm no more or less sinful than the average homosexual. My job is to show homosexuals the love that Jesus has for them, not condemn or judge. But Jesus didn't teach against homosexuality. he didnt teach against beastiality or pedophilia or any host of other things too,, I guess he may have been in a time when some things were (as Kleisto often says),, 'common' sense,,,, You're actually comparing homosexuality with bestiality and pedophilia? Really? |
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so if there is a god, and he is against it, why? wouldn't there be a reason behind it? According to the Bible, God created men and women to be matching pairs. Men are made for women and vise versa. So homosexuality goes against his plan for humanity. huh... so homos are kind of like a rebel teenager then... No, that's what Pat Robertson, some Christians and most non-Christians are mistaken on. Jesus taught that we are all rebel children, not that some of us are good and some are bad. Jesus said that we are all disobedient and need forgiveness. I'm no more or less sinful than the average homosexual. My job is to show homosexuals the love that Jesus has for them, not condemn or judge. But Jesus didn't teach against homosexuality. he didnt teach against beastiality or pedophilia or any host of other things too,, I guess he may have been in a time when some things were (as Kleisto often says),, 'common' sense,,,, You're actually comparing homosexuality with bestiality and pedophilia? Really? Im not comparing anything but the relevance of the statement posted previously. Jesus never preached 'against' alot of things, which is irrelevant to whether or not they were or were not supported or condemned by Gods word. |
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so if there is a god, and he is against it, why? wouldn't there be a reason behind it? According to the Bible, God created men and women to be matching pairs. Men are made for women and vise versa. So homosexuality goes against his plan for humanity. huh... so homos are kind of like a rebel teenager then... No, that's what Pat Robertson, some Christians and most non-Christians are mistaken on. Jesus taught that we are all rebel children, not that some of us are good and some are bad. Jesus said that we are all disobedient and need forgiveness. I'm no more or less sinful than the average homosexual. My job is to show homosexuals the love that Jesus has for them, not condemn or judge. But Jesus didn't teach against homosexuality. he didnt teach against beastiality or pedophilia or any host of other things too,, I guess he may have been in a time when some things were (as Kleisto often says),, 'common' sense,,,, You're actually comparing homosexuality with bestiality and pedophilia? Really? What's the difference? I can "love" a man but not a male fawn? |
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so if there is a god, and he is against it, why? wouldn't there be a reason behind it? According to the Bible, God created men and women to be matching pairs. Men are made for women and vise versa. So homosexuality goes against his plan for humanity. huh... so homos are kind of like a rebel teenager then... No, that's what Pat Robertson, some Christians and most non-Christians are mistaken on. Jesus taught that we are all rebel children, not that some of us are good and some are bad. Jesus said that we are all disobedient and need forgiveness. I'm no more or less sinful than the average homosexual. My job is to show homosexuals the love that Jesus has for them, not condemn or judge. But Jesus didn't teach against homosexuality. he didnt teach against beastiality or pedophilia or any host of other things too,, I guess he may have been in a time when some things were (as Kleisto often says),, 'common' sense,,,, You're actually comparing homosexuality with bestiality and pedophilia? Really? What's the difference? I can "love" a man but not a male fawn? I'm not quite sure how to reply to someone who sees no difference. Though, I find it hard to believe that you actually see no difference and instead, you're just trying to argue about it. |
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so if there is a god, and he is against it, why? wouldn't there be a reason behind it? According to the Bible, God created men and women to be matching pairs. Men are made for women and vise versa. So homosexuality goes against his plan for humanity. huh... so homos are kind of like a rebel teenager then... No, that's what Pat Robertson, some Christians and most non-Christians are mistaken on. Jesus taught that we are all rebel children, not that some of us are good and some are bad. Jesus said that we are all disobedient and need forgiveness. I'm no more or less sinful than the average homosexual. My job is to show homosexuals the love that Jesus has for them, not condemn or judge. But Jesus didn't teach against homosexuality. he didnt teach against beastiality or pedophilia or any host of other things too,, I guess he may have been in a time when some things were (as Kleisto often says),, 'common' sense,,,, You're actually comparing homosexuality with bestiality and pedophilia? Really? What's the difference? I can "love" a man but not a male fawn? I'm not quite sure how to reply to someone who sees no difference. Though, I find it hard to believe that you actually see no difference and instead, you're just trying to argue about it. Actually, I just wanna hear you say "It's disgusting" or something similar. Some people actually are born that way... |
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Are you born that way? Is that why you brought it up?
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Fri 07/01/11 07:00 PM
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Are you born that way? Is that why you brought it up? Don't waste your time with him, he's clearly baiting you seems to me. |
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Are you born that way? Is that why you brought it up? No I'm not and I wasn't the one who "brought" it up... I responded because your disgust eminated from the few words you typed. My logic would dictate that if you admit to your personal distaste of either of them them you cannot complain if someone else feels the same way about homosexuality. Care to answer the question honestly? |
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Are you born that way? Is that why you brought it up? No I'm not and I wasn't the one who "brought" it up... I responded because your disgust eminated from the few words you typed. My logic would dictate that if you admit to your personal distaste of either of them them you cannot complain if someone else feels the same way about homosexuality. Care to answer the question honestly? Show me how an animal or a child can consent to sexual activity in this manner and then maybe you'd have a case. Till then, it fails. |
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Are you born that way? Is that why you brought it up? No I'm not and I wasn't the one who "brought" it up... I responded because your disgust eminated from the few words you typed. My logic would dictate that if you admit to your personal distaste of either of them them you cannot complain if someone else feels the same way about homosexuality. Care to answer the question honestly? Show me how an animal or a child can consent to sexual activity in this manner and then maybe you'd have a case. Till then, it fails. I like the confidence, have you read your Bible yet? |
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Are you born that way? Is that why you brought it up? No I'm not and I wasn't the one who "brought" it up... I responded because your disgust eminated from the few words you typed. My logic would dictate that if you admit to your personal distaste of either of them them you cannot complain if someone else feels the same way about homosexuality. Care to answer the question honestly? Show me how an animal or a child can consent to sexual activity in this manner and then maybe you'd have a case. Till then, it fails. I like the confidence, have you read your Bible yet? That has nothing to do with this, stay on topic, I won't play your deflections game. |
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there is no quote in the new testament on Jesus preaching anything against homosexuals,hell some people even think Jesus himself was gay,after all he sure had alot of male followers,just sayin. Want you to notice the sexually immoral. Homosexuality would fall into this category. It is immoral for again sex is for reproduction and the making of a family. Homosexuals can not do this, it is purely for the physical lust, Hoe do you what a gay person feels?? Ever been gay??? It's called LOVE, get it.. love? Do you know what that is out side of your scriptures? love and sex are seperate, like anger and violence love and anger are EMOTIONS, sex and violence are actions we engage in to express the feelings emotions may or may not be chosen, actions always are,, Can you really justify a God giving us feelings for someone and then saying: "Oh but you can't act on them". Give me a damn break. |
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