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hello, uncle dad and aunty mom,,,,lol now cousin bob can marry cousin pete too... or brother dave marries brother sam...aunt mary marries mother cheryl.... how long till that comes about? |
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Wondering how this topic went from same sex marriage between two consenting adults that are not related; to marrying family or marrying animals? Doen't make a lot of sense to me.
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Wondering how this topic went from same sex marriage between two consenting adults that are not related; to marrying family or marrying animals? Doen't make a lot of sense to me. two people that love each other... |
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Wondering how this topic went from same sex marriage between two consenting adults that are not related; to marrying family or marrying animals? Doen't make a lot of sense to me. two people that love each other... Or a very affectionate and adoring sheep. 
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Wondering how this topic went from same sex marriage between two consenting adults that are not related; to marrying family or marrying animals? Doen't make a lot of sense to me. because it was never about not being related, just being able to marry whomever one 'loves' and the rest not being anyones business or judgment to make which would include consenting adults who happen to be siblings,,, or people who happen to 'love' their animals... |
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Wondering how this topic went from same sex marriage between two consenting adults that are not related; to marrying family or marrying animals? Doen't make a lot of sense to me. because it was never about not being related, just being able to marry whomever one 'loves' and the rest not being anyones business or judgment to make which would include consenting adults who happen to be siblings,,, or people who happen to 'love' their animals... It's about two consenting adults getting married, just as it is right now. It's just not limited to man and woman anymore. Bringing incest into it makes absolutely no sense. Then again, the people who bring up the incest argument are also the kind of people who bring up marrying animals as well. Again, making no sense. |
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Wondering how this topic went from same sex marriage between two consenting adults that are not related; to marrying family or marrying animals? Doen't make a lot of sense to me. because it was never about not being related, just being able to marry whomever one 'loves' and the rest not being anyones business or judgment to make which would include consenting adults who happen to be siblings,,, or people who happen to 'love' their animals... It's about two consenting adults getting married, just as it is right now. It's just not limited to man and woman anymore. Bringing incest into it makes absolutely no sense. Then again, the people who bring up the incest argument are also the kind of people who bring up marrying animals as well. Again, making no sense. neither does the nonsense of same sex marriage... |
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Wondering how this topic went from same sex marriage between two consenting adults that are not related; to marrying family or marrying animals? Doen't make a lot of sense to me. because it was never about not being related, just being able to marry whomever one 'loves' and the rest not being anyones business or judgment to make which would include consenting adults who happen to be siblings,,, or people who happen to 'love' their animals... It's about two consenting adults getting married, just as it is right now. It's just not limited to man and woman anymore. Bringing incest into it makes absolutely no sense. Then again, the people who bring up the incest argument are also the kind of people who bring up marrying animals as well. Again, making no sense. it makes perfect sense if the incestuous couple consist of 'consenting adults' |
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Wondering how this topic went from same sex marriage between two consenting adults that are not related; to marrying family or marrying animals? Doen't make a lot of sense to me. because it was never about not being related, just being able to marry whomever one 'loves' and the rest not being anyones business or judgment to make which would include consenting adults who happen to be siblings,,, or people who happen to 'love' their animals... It's about two consenting adults getting married, just as it is right now. It's just not limited to man and woman anymore. Bringing incest into it makes absolutely no sense. Then again, the people who bring up the incest argument are also the kind of people who bring up marrying animals as well. Again, making no sense. neither does the nonsense of same sex marriage... As long as the two getting married are human I can still wrap my mind around it.. Start adding bestiality to the mix and it just confirms my suspicion that a lot of people have sexual hang ups from the uptight, guilt ridden, sex for for procreation only.. mentality. guilt |
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Wondering how this topic went from same sex marriage between two consenting adults that are not related; to marrying family or marrying animals? Doen't make a lot of sense to me. because it was never about not being related, just being able to marry whomever one 'loves' and the rest not being anyones business or judgment to make which would include consenting adults who happen to be siblings,,, or people who happen to 'love' their animals... It's about two consenting adults getting married, just as it is right now. It's just not limited to man and woman anymore. Bringing incest into it makes absolutely no sense. Then again, the people who bring up the incest argument are also the kind of people who bring up marrying animals as well. Again, making no sense. neither does the nonsense of same sex marriage... As long as the two getting married are human I can still wrap my mind around it.. Start adding bestiality to the mix and it just confirms my suspicion that a lot of people have sexual hang ups from the uptight, guilt ridden, sex for for procreation only.. mentality. guilt to each their own... |
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Wondering how this topic went from same sex marriage between two consenting adults that are not related; to marrying family or marrying animals? Doen't make a lot of sense to me. because it was never about not being related, just being able to marry whomever one 'loves' and the rest not being anyones business or judgment to make which would include consenting adults who happen to be siblings,,, or people who happen to 'love' their animals... It's about two consenting adults getting married, just as it is right now. It's just not limited to man and woman anymore. Bringing incest into it makes absolutely no sense. Then again, the people who bring up the incest argument are also the kind of people who bring up marrying animals as well. Again, making no sense. neither does the nonsense of same sex marriage... As long as the two getting married are human I can still wrap my mind around it.. Start adding bestiality to the mix and it just confirms my suspicion that a lot of people have sexual hang ups from the uptight, guilt ridden, sex for for procreation only.. mentality. guilt to each their own... yeah, as long as my pet isn't being molested... : ) |
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what about those people who constantly give their pets 'kisses' on their nose,face, cheek,,,etc,,, ?
how do we know the pets consent to this? is this molestation if its actually unwanted,,,? ,,,things that make ya go hmmmmmm,,...lol |
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Wondering how this topic went from same sex marriage between two consenting adults that are not related; to marrying family or marrying animals? Doen't make a lot of sense to me. because it was never about not being related, just being able to marry whomever one 'loves' and the rest not being anyones business or judgment to make which would include consenting adults who happen to be siblings,,, or people who happen to 'love' their animals... It's about two consenting adults getting married, just as it is right now. It's just not limited to man and woman anymore. Bringing incest into it makes absolutely no sense. Then again, the people who bring up the incest argument are also the kind of people who bring up marrying animals as well. Again, making no sense. People who bring those topics up are basically confessing that they have no rational arguments against the topic at hand. |
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beastiality is probably extreme as 'consent' cant truly be considered
(see joke about whether pets 'consent' to being 'kissed'...lol) however, incest is a valid reference if our criteria is to not judge anything but 'consent' if siblings consent to a relationship, why should they be judged for having the same parents anymore than two other consenting adults should be judged for having the same anatomy? its a pretty valid point, actually, and Im sure this will be the next big decision the courts make regarding the 'fairness' of the marriage definitions,,,, |
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beastiality is probably extreme as 'consent' cant truly be considered (see joke about whether pets 'consent' to being 'kissed'...lol) however, incest is a valid reference if our criteria is to not judge anything but 'consent' if siblings consent to a relationship, why should they be judged for having the same parents anymore than two other consenting adults should be judged for having the same anatomy? its a pretty valid point, actually, and Im sure this will be the next big decision the courts make regarding the 'fairness' of the marriage definitions,,,, The idea animals cannot consent to sex is a LIE. When a female dog is humping on someone there are two reasons, one is domination since quite a few animals express domination that way, male and female. Likewise the other reason is the dog is in heat and WANTS to get hers. Now since we have horse owners here ever see a mare in heat? They advertise it! Likewise a female horse will back into people wanting to get the hint out she wants to get hers too. Female skunks get pissed off mean but then they are a different animal in that their sex life has been compared to Klingon love. It is violent. Even female cats will advertise and not appear too picky about where they get their release. Now if someone tries to force sex on an animal most of the time they risk injury since female animals will defend themselves too. But when she is lifting her tail and shoving her azz in your face that means one and only one thing, "Service me!" And a number of female animals have the capacity of expressing their desires. I have seen what a sexually frustrated mare is like and they get pissed off and bite at everyone! Hell, I knew a guy a while back who was a Dolphin trainer at Sea World and one of the female dolphins liked him a lot. Too much so since she became sexually aggressive towards him and would not perform. It escalated to the point where he dolphin would pin him to the side of the tank if he got in the water and would rub on him wanting to copulate with him. So to those who do not handle animals, work on a ranch or zoo, or ever owned a pet in their life are just shooting their mouths off about something they don't know. Animals can consent. We just think too much of ourselves. Likewise people are just too messed up about sexuality in general to see we are just like any other animal out there. And no I am not advocating bestiality here. I am just citing facts some cannot face up to! Incest is a problem related to upbringing. That is a failure of the parents to teach their children to not have retard babies among other things. And it is absolutely sick our justice system puts everything on us men when it comes to underage girls. They can and do lie too but then the parents cannot see their little angel for the devil she is and sends the guy to hell. Its all smoke and mirrors built on lies based on religious dogma! |
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hhaaaaaaaaaaa,,, back to being all religions fault,,,lol
too funny,,,
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Edited by
Abracadabra
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Sat 07/02/11 11:16 AM
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beastiality is probably extreme as 'consent' cant truly be considered (see joke about whether pets 'consent' to being 'kissed'...lol) however, incest is a valid reference if our criteria is to not judge anything but 'consent' if siblings consent to a relationship, why should they be judged for having the same parents anymore than two other consenting adults should be judged for having the same anatomy? its a pretty valid point, actually, and Im sure this will be the next big decision the courts make regarding the 'fairness' of the marriage definitions,,,, That's still a whole different topic with it's own situation. To begin with it's not a "moral judgment". Who cares if brother and sister fall in love and marry? There's nothing "immoral" about that as far as I'm concerned. The problem there has to do with genetics and the "high probability" that any offspring "could" potentially have dramatic birth defects. That's isn't even guaranteed by the way. It's is possible for brother and sister to actually have health offspring. But genetically there are scientific grounds to argue that the risks of birth defects are too high to be acceptable. I don't know precisely where geneticists stand on this very issue. We have learned MUCH about DNA and genetics over the last few decades and our understanding of genetics is growing exponentially. For all I know, it may even be possible for geneticists to exam the DNA from siblings and determine potential genetic problems. Obviously this wouldn't be foolproof. But that's beside the point. Even people who are far removed genetically still sometimes have genetically defective offspring. So really all that would need to be determined is that the risk of genetic defects isn't any higher than average. If that could be determined, then there would be no grounds to refuse siblings to marry and even have their own children (assuming they passed this DNA evaluation) If it was determined that they are at extremely high-risk for producing birth defects, then that would be a whole different story. So there may come a time when siblings could be "screened" as possible candidates for potential healthy procreation. That's really the only issue there is it not? Also, what if one of the siblings was sterile and incapable of procreation? Then should they be permitted to marry and adopt children? I certainly see no reason why they should be not granted that right. The whole superstition that incest is "immoral" may have actually originated from observations made by the elders of tribes that when bothers and sisters mated the offspring was often "cursed" with birth defects. So those observations worked their way into the religious writings stating that God "curses" incest. That's how these things get started - by assuming that a "GOD" is responsible for curses, and such. |
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which is why I say, barring some constitutional guarantee that the government has a right to regulate 'potential' birth defects in children
incestuous marriages will probably be next in our culture ,,,uncle dad and aunty mom might become staples for our kids,,,YAY! |
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beastiality is probably extreme as 'consent' cant truly be considered (see joke about whether pets 'consent' to being 'kissed'...lol) however, incest is a valid reference if our criteria is to not judge anything but 'consent' if siblings consent to a relationship, why should they be judged for having the same parents anymore than two other consenting adults should be judged for having the same anatomy? its a pretty valid point, actually, and Im sure this will be the next big decision the courts make regarding the 'fairness' of the marriage definitions,,,, The idea animals cannot consent to sex is a LIE. When a female dog is humping on someone there are two reasons, one is domination since quite a few animals express domination that way, male and female. Likewise the other reason is the dog is in heat and WANTS to get hers. Now since we have horse owners here ever see a mare in heat? They advertise it! Likewise a female horse will back into people wanting to get the hint out she wants to get hers too. Female skunks get pissed off mean but then they are a different animal in that their sex life has been compared to Klingon love. It is violent. Even female cats will advertise and not appear too picky about where they get their release. Now if someone tries to force sex on an animal most of the time they risk injury since female animals will defend themselves too. But when she is lifting her tail and shoving her azz in your face that means one and only one thing, "Service me!" And a number of female animals have the capacity of expressing their desires. I have seen what a sexually frustrated mare is like and they get pissed off and bite at everyone! Hell, I knew a guy a while back who was a Dolphin trainer at Sea World and one of the female dolphins liked him a lot. Too much so since she became sexually aggressive towards him and would not perform. It escalated to the point where he dolphin would pin him to the side of the tank if he got in the water and would rub on him wanting to copulate with him. So to those who do not handle animals, work on a ranch or zoo, or ever owned a pet in their life are just shooting their mouths off about something they don't know. Animals can consent. We just think too much of ourselves. Likewise people are just too messed up about sexuality in general to see we are just like any other animal out there. And no I am not advocating bestiality here. I am just citing facts some cannot face up to! Incest is a problem related to upbringing. That is a failure of the parents to teach their children to not have retard babies among other things. And it is absolutely sick our justice system puts everything on us men when it comes to underage girls. They can and do lie too but then the parents cannot see their little angel for the devil she is and sends the guy to hell. Its all smoke and mirrors built on lies based on religious dogma! SHHHHHHH My dog is getting very nervous here guys! |
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