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Fri 07/01/11 09:56 AM

Well you said that it's your "job" to show homosexuals the love that Jesus has for them.

Has it ever dawned on you that maybe homosexuals already know that Jesus loves them just as they are?

spock


Some do, some don't. Jesus called on his followers to show his love to the world. It's interesting that you are judgmental of me for saying that I want to show homosexuals love. It's almost as if nothing I do will never be "good" in your mind...laugh

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Fri 07/01/11 09:57 AM
Cowboy wrote:

Jesus does love them, Jesus loves murderers, he loves adulterers, he loves rapists, he loves EVERYONE. He does not love these "actions" but the person he does. That is why he offers a way to turn from these actions and be forgiven for their previous mistakes without a catch. Jesus loves all.


What are you talking about murderers, adulterers, and rapists for? huh

Jesus never taught against homosexuality. There is absolutely no reason to assume that he would object to it in any way.


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Fri 07/01/11 09:57 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Fri 07/01/11 09:57 AM

No, that's what Pat Robertson, some Christians and most non-Christians are mistaken on. Jesus taught that we are all rebel children, not that some of us are good and some are bad. Jesus said that we are all disobedient and need forgiveness. I'm no more or less sinful than the average homosexual. My job is to show homosexuals the love that Jesus has for them, not condemn or judge.


it's your job to teach that?



Christians are called on to show love, kindness and mercy to all people, so that those people will see how great our God is through us.

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Fri 07/01/11 09:58 AM





so if there is a god, and he is against it, why? wouldn't there be a reason behind it?


According to the Bible, God created men and women to be matching pairs. Men are made for women and vise versa. So homosexuality goes against his plan for humanity.


huh... so homos are kind of like a rebel teenager then...


No, that's what Pat Robertson, some Christians and most non-Christians are mistaken on. Jesus taught that we are all rebel children, not that some of us are good and some are bad. Jesus said that we are all disobedient and need forgiveness. I'm no more or less sinful than the average homosexual. My job is to show homosexuals the love that Jesus has for them, not condemn or judge.


But Jesus didn't teach against homosexuality.


Want you to notice the sexually immoral. Homosexuality would fall into this category. It is immoral for again sex is for reproduction and the making of a family. Homosexuals can not do this, it is purely for the physical lust, which is then what classifies it as immoral. It does nothing positive for the world, the community, or the person. It is a physical desire, lust. So don't tell me Jesus never taught against homosexuality.


Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NIV, 1st Corinthians 6:9-11)

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Fri 07/01/11 09:59 AM


Well you said that it's your "job" to show homosexuals the love that Jesus has for them.

Has it ever dawned on you that maybe homosexuals already know that Jesus loves them just as they are?

spock


Some do, some don't. Jesus called on his followers to show his love to the world. It's interesting that you are judgmental of me for saying that I want to show homosexuals love. It's almost as if nothing I do will never be "good" in your mind...laugh


Well, if you want to show homosexuals love then you'd support their marriages.

Actions speak louder than words Spider. drinker

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Fri 07/01/11 10:00 AM

Outside of reproduction sex has absolutely no place on this Earth.


Not this crap again. That's not true at all and anti-biblical. The Song of Solomon is all about enjoying sex with your spouse. Would you like to share with us the scriptures that say that sex should only be used for reproduction?

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Fri 07/01/11 10:01 AM

Cowboy wrote:

Jesus does love them, Jesus loves murderers, he loves adulterers, he loves rapists, he loves EVERYONE. He does not love these "actions" but the person he does. That is why he offers a way to turn from these actions and be forgiven for their previous mistakes without a catch. Jesus loves all.


What are you talking about murderers, adulterers, and rapists for? huh

Jesus never taught against homosexuality. There is absolutely no reason to assume that he would object to it in any way.




All but one sin is on equal grounding. All sins are forgivable but one. All sins but one are the same. The only sin greater then any other is denying the lord Jesus Christ. Outside of that all sins are equal. Weather that is sexual immorality eg., homosexuality, or lying. It's all equal. The only way to be forgiven of a sin is repenting from that which you seek forgiveness of. Sin will not enter into the gates of heaven, thus if it's not forgiven it can not enter, thus this person can not enter.

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Fri 07/01/11 10:01 AM
there is no quote in the new testament on Jesus preaching anything against homosexuals,hell some people even think Jesus himself was gay,after all he sure had alot of male followers,just sayin.smokin

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Fri 07/01/11 10:02 AM



Well you said that it's your "job" to show homosexuals the love that Jesus has for them.

Has it ever dawned on you that maybe homosexuals already know that Jesus loves them just as they are?

spock


Some do, some don't. Jesus called on his followers to show his love to the world. It's interesting that you are judgmental of me for saying that I want to show homosexuals love. It's almost as if nothing I do will never be "good" in your mind...laugh


Well, if you want to show homosexuals love then you'd support their marriages.

Actions speak louder than words Spider. drinker


I've supported gay rights for years and very vocally in these forums. I don't support Government intervention in marriage for gays or straights. Marriage should be a purely religious ceremony, which would be protected by the 1st Amendment. Get with the program.

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Fri 07/01/11 10:03 AM


Outside of reproduction sex has absolutely no place on this Earth.


Not this crap again. That's not true at all and anti-biblical. The Song of Solomon is all about enjoying sex with your spouse. Would you like to share with us the scriptures that say that sex should only be used for reproduction?


Yes, we are told to fill the Earth. We are told that we are to only have sex with our married spouse. Marriage is between a man and a woman. You will not find one thing about homosexual marriage being allowed, it always states a man and a woman.

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Fri 07/01/11 10:03 AM

"Mark 7:15 There is NOTHING from without a man, that entering into him can defile him:"laugh


looks to me jesus had no problem with homosexuals and has broken the kosher laws,just sayinsmokin

Also note that according to GOD homosexuality is an abomination


yeah, so is eating shell fish (according to the scriptures) pretty sure alot of the haters are eating shrimp, crab, clams, lobster...etc.
hard to hate the fish, but people..yeah that's EZ!!

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Fri 07/01/11 10:05 AM



Outside of reproduction sex has absolutely no place on this Earth.


Not this crap again. That's not true at all and anti-biblical. The Song of Solomon is all about enjoying sex with your spouse. Would you like to share with us the scriptures that say that sex should only be used for reproduction?


Yes, we are told to fill the Earth. We are told that we are to only have sex with our married spouse. Marriage is between a man and a woman. You will not find one thing about homosexual marriage being allowed, it always states a man and a woman.


No moving the goal post. You said "Outside of reproduction sex has absolutely no place on this Earth", prove that. Prove that a married couple shouldn't have sex simply because they love one another, because that's what you are stating. Let's see some scriptures.

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Fri 07/01/11 10:06 AM

there is no quote in the new testament on Jesus preaching anything against homosexuals,hell some people even think Jesus himself was gay,after all he sure had alot of male followers,just sayin.smokin


Want you to notice the sexually immoral. Homosexuality would fall into this category. It is immoral for again sex is for reproduction and the making of a family. Homosexuals can not do this, it is purely for the physical lust, which is then what classifies it as immoral. It does nothing positive for the world, the community, or the person. It is a physical desire, lust. So don't tell me Jesus never taught against homosexuality. Think this will clarify this statement as well. Jesus had male followers for men are the leaders, they are the one's that are in charge with teaching the family of the laws of our lord. The man is responsible for making a God loving family. They are the one's to spread the word of God. Thus the reason Jesus had male disciples.


Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NIV, 1st Corinthians 6:9-11)

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Fri 07/01/11 10:08 AM


"Mark 7:15 There is NOTHING from without a man, that entering into him can defile him:"laugh


looks to me jesus had no problem with homosexuals and has broken the kosher laws,just sayinsmokin

Also note that according to GOD homosexuality is an abomination


yeah, so is eating shell fish (according to the scriptures) pretty sure alot of the haters are eating shrimp, crab, clams, lobster...etc.
hard to hate the fish, but people..yeah that's EZ!!
i love boiled shrimp and lobster dipped in butterlove yum yumlove

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Fri 07/01/11 10:08 AM




Outside of reproduction sex has absolutely no place on this Earth.


Not this crap again. That's not true at all and anti-biblical. The Song of Solomon is all about enjoying sex with your spouse. Would you like to share with us the scriptures that say that sex should only be used for reproduction?


Yes, we are told to fill the Earth. We are told that we are to only have sex with our married spouse. Marriage is between a man and a woman. You will not find one thing about homosexual marriage being allowed, it always states a man and a woman.


No moving the goal post. You said "Outside of reproduction sex has absolutely no place on this Earth", prove that. Prove that a married couple shouldn't have sex simply because they love one another, because that's what you are stating. Let's see some scriptures.


Don't have to. The scriptures tell us what sex is for and the scriptures only teach of sex for reproduction. And speaks of sexual immorality, lust, ect being sinful and against God's will. Sex outside of reproduction would fall into the lust category, lusting after the flesh and appeasing the fleshly desires.

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Fri 07/01/11 10:09 AM


there is no quote in the new testament on Jesus preaching anything against homosexuals,hell some people even think Jesus himself was gay,after all he sure had alot of male followers,just sayin.smokin


Want you to notice the sexually immoral. Homosexuality would fall into this category. It is immoral for again sex is for reproduction and the making of a family. Homosexuals can not do this, it is purely for the physical lust,



Hoe do you what a gay person feels?? Ever been gay???
It's called LOVE, get it.. love?
Do you know what that is out side of your scriptures?

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Fri 07/01/11 10:09 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Fri 07/01/11 10:14 AM


there is no quote in the new testament on Jesus preaching anything against homosexuals,hell some people even think Jesus himself was gay,after all he sure had alot of male followers,just sayin.smokin


Want you to notice the sexually immoral. Homosexuality would fall into this category. It is immoral for again sex is for reproduction and the making of a family. Homosexuals can not do this, it is purely for the physical lust, which is then what classifies it as immoral. It does nothing positive for the world, the community, or the person. It is a physical desire, lust. So don't tell me Jesus never taught against homosexuality. Think this will clarify this statement as well. Jesus had male followers for men are the leaders, they are the one's that are in charge with teaching the family of the laws of our lord. The man is responsible for making a God loving family. They are the one's to spread the word of God. Thus the reason Jesus had male disciples.


Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NIV, 1st Corinthians 6:9-11)
so i'm assuming this is another contradiction from Mark 7:15,also if i'm not mistaken didn't Paul or Peter supposively say this?

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Fri 07/01/11 10:10 AM



"Mark 7:15 There is NOTHING from without a man, that entering into him can defile him:"laugh


looks to me jesus had no problem with homosexuals and has broken the kosher laws,just sayinsmokin

Also note that according to GOD homosexuality is an abomination


yeah, so is eating shell fish (according to the scriptures) pretty sure alot of the haters are eating shrimp, crab, clams, lobster...etc.
hard to hate the fish, but people..yeah that's EZ!!
i love boiled shrimp and lobster dipped in butterlove yum yumlove


godless heathen, commandment breaker!! : )

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Fri 07/01/11 10:10 AM


"Mark 7:15 There is NOTHING from without a man, that entering into him can defile him:"laugh


looks to me jesus had no problem with homosexuals and has broken the kosher laws,just sayinsmokin

Also note that according to GOD homosexuality is an abomination


yeah, so is eating shell fish (according to the scriptures) pretty sure alot of the haters are eating shrimp, crab, clams, lobster...etc.
hard to hate the fish, but people..yeah that's EZ!!


Romans 14:1-23

As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. ...

Leviticus 11:9

“These you may eat, of all that are in the waters. Everything in the waters that has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers, you may eat.

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Fri 07/01/11 10:12 AM



there is no quote in the new testament on Jesus preaching anything against homosexuals,hell some people even think Jesus himself was gay,after all he sure had alot of male followers,just sayin.smokin


Want you to notice the sexually immoral. Homosexuality would fall into this category. It is immoral for again sex is for reproduction and the making of a family. Homosexuals can not do this, it is purely for the physical lust,



Hoe do you what a gay person feels?? Ever been gay???
It's called LOVE, get it.. love?
Do you know what that is out side of your scriptures?


did you ever consider it is not about love, but the sexual act? god says to love all man, but not to have gay sex with them...

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