is it true or false? and why

false

Absolutely true!!! Love is painful and personally I am tired of being in pain. I find with me that the men cause me grief, stress me out, and try to control me. They play with my feelings by shutting down when they please and can be very inconsiderate of my feelings. Then add to that the violence that ensues when he is pissed. I still have chronic neck pain from the last man who hit me but claimed that loved me. This is why I gave up looking for anyone; as being in love now makes me physically sick.

if done right

Sometimes meaning of true love is not to possess it.

"Derevaun seraun"
Latin for:

'The end of pleasure is pain'

I think they covered it.

People can't be true to themselves, thats why hardly any relationships work.

I'd say they can be connected but it's not mandatory. For instance, if an alligator bites your arm off, that will be painful but it does not (necessarily) involve any sort of "love."

So, not all pain is related to love.

Is all love related to pain? I don't know. Probably.

Hmmm, both

Its all about what in life you choose to focus on. If you focus on pain and negativity of course it will seem like thats all love is. I got out of a pretty long on and off again relationship and it had its share of pain. But it also had its share of good times and incredible feeling.

I could say "I wasted four years of my life with that woman!". But that is not how I feel. I enjoyed every moment together with her and even through the bad parts each experience made me who I am today and wouldn't trade it for the world. A journey of living loving and learning so to speak.

So no I don't believe love is pain. Lifes like a roller coaster as are relationships they have their ups, downs, ins, outs, loops, spins, and sudden stops when its all over. Love much like life is what you make of it.

If it hurts you're not doing it right.

TRUE... especially when it is only a one way traffic.

It's the most excrutiating, torturous, wildest blissful thing a human, Being, can experience...

with children...your heart walks around outside of your body,

with a lover, they hold it within their own...you give all of you away...which makes room, for all of them.


Agony! Sweet agony...

Of course love can be painful, emotionally painful, even in successful relationships....its part of personal growth....we need pain to grow emotionally.

Yeah, it can hurt but it's better than stubbing your pinky toe on a door frame in the middle of the night.

I don't feel pain as negativity, not when woven into love. The natural world is not kind, it is not gentle....it is bloody, violent, ruthless, and has no limitations on how it goes about itself...think of the wild happenings around the planet at the moment....that is the natural world.

Love is a natural state...one WE humans have homogenised, relligionised, ostracised, and twisted into such a tiny parameter....limited.


Love is not limited....humans are....until they surrender, and allow the full force of natural love to flow.

Jess, you think we are in agony when in love. But just the other day I was thinking of these seventeen- and eighteenth century poets and writers, who sang of the sweet anguish torturing them with pleasure, etc.

All of a sudden I realized, they were not allowed to do 4:20. Or whatever name you want to call self-pleasuring.

Now, we are whining like some middle-aged juice whose stock went rancid, but back then there was more to anguish about.

I think in another two hundred years the pain will amount to something like stepping on your own toe or looking directly in the Sun, and people will still whine about the anguish that love causes.

And I surmise that in the dawn of mankind, 100,000 years ago, it was much more painful to not get laid -- after all, when the first reproducing pair of humans appeared, there was no other choice to love, literally. A headache by your loved one then was a real tragedy of biblical proportions.

As we can see, luckily not every day was like that in those reproducing years.

I agree with this, and it's one thing I have learned in a big way within the last year. I used to have a certain mindset about love, needing this quality and that quality in a mate for it to work. Then....I met Christina. Ever since then, how I've seen love among many other things has changed considerably. She has made me into a whole different person from who I used to be......and has enriched my life in ways I never could have predicted last fall.

I don't know if we will end up together or not.......but whatever the outcome it's been some kind of ride, and I am relishing every moment of it right now.

This experience has taught me a hell of a lot, namely in relation to the topic that......you can try to plan out relationships for the longest time, but when you meet a particular special person....all of that goes by the wayside. If you don't fight it and just go with it....you just might end up with something that would exceed anything you ever could have asked for.

I guess I chose to focus on love as pain. I can honestly look back and say yes I wasted my time with the men I was with. I think life is too short to waste it on any more men. I can give my love to my family and friends as these are people that will truly appreciate me.

Ridiculous.

Love is pain?

If that's true, then I'm in love.

No, love is not pain.

Pain is pain.