Topic: love is pain
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Mon 05/23/11 05:24 PM

Of course love can be painful, emotionally painful, even in successful relationships....its part of personal growth....we need pain to grow emotionally.


He actually said that Love is pain. Not that love is painful.

In any case, love is not pain or painful.

You need pain to grow emotionally? Really? I don't see that.


Jess642's photo
Mon 05/23/11 06:10 PM


It's the most excrutiating, torturous, wildest blissful thing a human, Being, can experience...

with children...your heart walks around outside of your body,

with a lover, they hold it within their own...you give all of you away...which makes room, for all of them.


Agony! Sweet agony...:heart:


Jess, you think we are in agony when in love. But just the other day I was thinking of these seventeen- and eighteenth century poets and writers, who sang of the sweet anguish torturing them with pleasure, etc.

All of a sudden I realized, they were not allowed to do 4:20. Or whatever name you want to call self-pleasuring.

Now, we are whining like some middle-aged juice whose stock went rancid, but back then there was more to anguish about.

I think in another two hundred years the pain will amount to something like stepping on your own toe or looking directly in the Sun, and people will still whine about the anguish that love causes.

And I surmise that in the dawn of mankind, 100,000 years ago, it was much more painful to not get laid -- after all, when the first reproducing pair of humans appeared, there was no other choice to love, literally. A headache by your loved one then was a real tragedy of biblical proportions.

As we can see, luckily not every day was like that in those reproducing years.


Wux...perhaps we see agony as different things....I can see the everyday agony of the loss of someone, that pain, I can see the agony of injury, physical, emotional or spiritual...and yes...that appears as unpleasant...

However when using the word love...that bust your soul wide open love....as a mother feels when she holds her rumpled, wet, warm child for the first time....there's a delicious agony within...

With a lover...surrounding the sexual act, NOT being the act, (sex becomes a physical extension of that love)....it is delicious, fraught with all sorts of exquisiteness, the ache and the joy, when you drop down out of your head, and surrender to your heart's wants and desires...there is nothing else...and when the outside world requires us to be in separate physical spaces....it's agony...I feel I have lost a limb....I can feel his turbulence, his turmoils, as he can feel mine.


Hahahaha...the ultimate co-dependence!...Aaaaaaaarrrrrggghhh!!!

rofl

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Mon 05/23/11 06:16 PM

Ridiculous.

Love is pain?

If that's true, then I'm in love. laugh laugh laugh

No, love is not pain.

Pain is pain.




I see. You mean pain is love. You love pain. The rain in Spain stays mainly in the pain.

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Mon 05/23/11 06:23 PM
Edited by wux on Mon 05/23/11 06:24 PM
With a lover...surrounding the sexual act, NOT being the act, (sex becomes a physical extension of that love)....it is delicious, fraught with all sorts of exquisiteness, the ache and the joy, when you drop down out of your head, and surrender to your heart's wants and desires...there is nothing else...and when the outside world requires us to be in separate physical spaces....it's agony...I feel I have lost a limb....I can feel his turbulence, his turmoils, as he can feel mine.

Calm down. You are not making sense. ... No, don't take a deep breath!! that will exacerbate your dizz. Try to think of "cricket scores" or "Shopsie's vegetarian lasagna."

And then tell us, what happened to the good ole' "just close your eyes, spread your legs and think of England" stuff?

If you don't stop that nonsense right now, your children will be next.

Jess642's photo
Mon 05/23/11 06:26 PM
rofl rofl rofl





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Dragoness's photo
Mon 05/23/11 06:27 PM

is it true or false? and why


Those who you care for are always going to be able to bring you pain so yea. They can hurt you even without trying to.

wux's photo
Mon 05/23/11 06:28 PM
The pain in Spain stays mainly in the butt.

wux's photo
Mon 05/23/11 06:31 PM

rofl rofl rofl





tongue2


Thanks, Jess... I'm blushing.

Did you notice? I even managed to squeeze in an original backformation in there ("dizz").

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Mon 05/23/11 06:34 PM
it will be what u make it

if you are a drama free & positive person it will be positive

if you are negative about being in love or about ur partner it prolly will be negative...

even if we've been hurt I think we have to try to approach a new partner in a positive way & appreciate what that person brings to the table

doesn't mean arguments and negative things might not happen, but your overall approach to them is everything

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Mon 05/23/11 06:38 PM

it will be what u make it

if you are a drama free & positive person it will be positive

if you are negative about being in love or about ur partner it prolly will be negative...

even if we've been hurt I think we have to try to approach a new partner in a positive way & appreciate what that person brings to the table

doesn't mean arguments and negative things might not happen, but your overall approach to them is everything


Did you not read my post in this thread?

I just said that my lovers kept bringing stuff to the table... and more and more of it, and now I am 80 lbs overweight, and nobody wants to love me any more.

wux's photo
Mon 05/23/11 06:39 PM
^ I refuse to date until such time that I learn and master the self-Heimlich maneuvre.

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Mon 05/23/11 06:57 PM


Some say love, it is a river
that drowns the tender reed.
Some say love, it is a razor
that leaves your soul to bleed.
Some say love, it is a hunger,
an endless aching need.
I say love, it is a flower,
and you its only seed.

It's the heart afraid of breaking
that never learns to dance.
It's the dream afraid of waking
that never takes the chance.
It's the one who won't be taken,
who cannot seem to give,
and the soul afraid of dyin'
that never learns to live.

When the night has been too lonely
and the road has been to long,
and you think that love is only
for the lucky and the strong,
just remember in the winter
far beneath the bitter snows
lies the seed that with the sun's love
in the spring becomes the rose.






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Mon 05/23/11 07:13 PM


Ridiculous.

Love is pain?

If that's true, then I'm in love. laugh laugh laugh

No, love is not pain.

Pain is pain.




I see. You mean pain is love. You love pain. The rain in Spain stays mainly in the pain.


LMAOrofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Mon 05/23/11 07:29 PM
Anything that hurts doesn't fit very well.If you are to record people in there magnitude with perfectly fittings souls you will smile.love properly you don't get hurt, be dishonest____blablabla

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Mon 05/23/11 07:43 PM



Some say love, it is a river
that drowns the tender reed.
Some say love, it is a razor
that leaves your soul to bleed.
Some say love, it is a hunger,
an endless aching need.
I say love, it is a flower,
and you its only seed.

It's the heart afraid of breaking
that never learns to dance.
It's the dream afraid of waking
that never takes the chance.
It's the one who won't be taken,
who cannot seem to give,
and the soul afraid of dyin'
that never learns to live.

When the night has been too lonely
and the road has been to long,
and you think that love is only
for the lucky and the strong,
just remember in the winter
far beneath the bitter snows
lies the seed that with the sun's love
in the spring becomes the rose.








awesome lady, and just perfect. perfect - love it

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Mon 05/23/11 08:03 PM

is it true or false? and why
LOVE is ALWAYS SEEN AS MOST BEAUTIFUL...
Its that LOST LOVE which is hurtful and missing and tugs misery to your heart,,,,:wink:

navygirl's photo
Mon 05/23/11 08:40 PM


is it true or false? and why
LOVE is ALWAYS SEEN AS MOST BEAUTIFUL...
Its that LOST LOVE which is hurtful and missing and tugs misery to your heart,,,,:wink:


Well love is beautiful if its for my friend and family. Love for a man has caused me nothing but pain both mentally and physically. Am I incapable of loving a man as a partner? I would say yes but I have a lot of love to give those closest to me.

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Mon 05/23/11 08:42 PM
Edited by jemare on Mon 05/23/11 08:49 PM
I don't think love is pain. I think the pain anyone feels that is associated with love is in actuality the physical or emotional loss of the love, not having it reciprocated or unfortunately in some cases a physical or emotional abuse. The feeling of loss can be painful. Physical or mental abuse is certainly painful. But I don't think the love itself that you have for someone is what is painful.

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Mon 05/23/11 10:04 PM



is it true or false? and why
LOVE is ALWAYS SEEN AS MOST BEAUTIFUL...
Its that LOST LOVE which is hurtful and missing and tugs misery to your heart,,,,:wink:


Well love is beautiful if its for my friend and family. Love for a man has caused me nothing but pain both mentally and physically. Am I incapable of loving a man as a partner? I would say yes but I have a lot of love to give those closest to me.
Be careful you may be experiencing severe remorse love does not hurt infact it is healing

navygirl's photo
Tue 05/24/11 08:20 AM




is it true or false? and why
LOVE is ALWAYS SEEN AS MOST BEAUTIFUL...
Its that LOST LOVE which is hurtful and missing and tugs misery to your heart,,,,:wink:


Well love is beautiful if its for my friend and family. Love for a man has caused me nothing but pain both mentally and physically. Am I incapable of loving a man as a partner? I would say yes but I have a lot of love to give those closest to me.
Be careful you may be experiencing severe remorse love does not hurt infact it is healing


Absolutley not!! Loving a man has never caused me anything but grief. Loving family and friends is healing. I am not some niave 19 year old girl for goodness sake; I am 50 and don't buy into that crap anymore. There will be no remorse for not being in a relationship that physically and mentally exhausts me. Personally the whole thought of getting involved with another man makes me want to puke. mad