LOL

And most of the mind controlled do not know they are or have been mind controlled at all.

They just believe "it is how it is".

Web definitions
The term mind control (also known as brainwashing, coercive persuasion, thought control, or thought reform) refers to a process in which a group or individual systematically uses unethically manipulative methods to persuade others to conform to the wishes of the manipulator(s), often to the detriment of the person being manipulated".

The term has been applied to any tactic, psychological or otherwise, which can be seen as subverting an individual's sense of control over their own thinking, behavior, emotions or decision making


I suppose religion can and has been used in the latter form, as has patriotism and 'academia'

the former definition probalby happens much less often, as teaching our children values and standards is not 'unethical' in and of itself and no more 'unethical' if it comes from cultural standards of our community or from our religion or from our politics,, its quite natural to pass down what we feel is the best of ourselves to our children

Good, because I don't feel the slightest bit guilty. If anyone died so that I could live on, I thank them very much. Now if you don't mind, I'll get on with "living on."

Torturing someone and nailing him to a cross is not a "beautiful" thing, its violence. I don't like violent movies. Why you think it has anything to do with me 'living on' I haven't a clue.

The Passion was actually a play that was performed for audiences on a stage long before the time of Jesus. The writers of the fiction of the New Testament used that play for their fictional story about their savior. I guess if there really was a savior of mankind, the story just wasn't exciting enough, they had to borrow the idea from a play.

Nothing wrong with teaching morals or standards of how to be, but why do you need any organized religion to do that? Why not teach them to act forthright just because, and not because the church says it, or the Bible says to do it, etc etc. That's to say nothing of how other things get inevitably added in as being a part of this moral construct that really don't belong there.

One last time:

God wants RELATIONSHIP ,

NOT

RELIGION

with His creation.


Religion is HEAD KNOWLEDGE OF GOD( mind )

RELATIONSHIP is HEART KNOWLEDGE OF GOD(man's spirit is born again ) .


Jesus said, "My Sheep Hear My Voice ,

and the Voice of a Stranger

They Will Not Follow".


WHEN a person has HEART knowledge(is born again),

that person will NOT follow after every whim of doctrine....

but will be able to DISCERN what is Truth and not Truth,

because of the Holy Spirit now indwelling and leading him.


However.....A person CAN be led astray,

when he begins to COMPROMISE the WORD OF GOD.


Then it becomes easy for him to fall for ERROR

and be mislead into all kinds of ERRONEOUS TEACHINGS,

simply because he

decided to compromise God's Word.


When we compromise God's Word, we open the door for the enemy to

come in , and easily decieve us.



ANYBODY can say that they know the bible, but if what they

teach does NOT line up with God's Word, they are then

compromising the Word of God.


They may have STARTED OFF teaching the Truth of the Word,

but then got OFF

into error....because they were NO LONGER being led of the

HOLY Spirit , but of the flesh.

(OR ....they were never led of the Holy Spirit in the first place,

but had only religion, because they were never

born again.)

That is why it is Important , when listening to some preacher ,

to CHECK OUT and SEE

WHAT THE WORD OF GOD SAYS FOR ONESELF.....

and NOT follow after man....or after every whim of doctrine

being preached out there today.

One last time:

God wants RELATIONSHIP ,

NOT

RELIGION

with His creation.

One last time:

God wants RELATIONSHIP ,

NOT

RELIGION

with His creation.


Religion is HEAD KNOWLEDGE OF GOD( mind )

RELATIONSHIP is HEART KNOWLEDGE OF GOD(man's spirit is born again ) .


Jesus said, "My Sheep Hear My Voice ,

and the Voice of a Stranger

They Will Not Follow".


WHEN a person has HEART knowledge(is born again),

that person will NOT follow after every whim of doctrine....

but will be able to DISCERN what is Truth and not Truth,

because of the Holy Spirit now indwelling and leading him.


However.....A person CAN be led astray,

when he begins to COMPROMISE the WORD OF GOD.


Then it becomes easy for him to fall for ERROR

and be mislead into all kinds of ERRONEOUS TEACHINGS,

simply because he

decided to compromise God's Word.


When we compromise God's Word, we open the door for the enemy to

come in , and easily decieve us.



ANYBODY can say that they know the bible, but if what they

teach does NOT line up with God's Word, they are then

compromising the Word of God.


They may have STARTED OFF teaching the Truth of the Word,

but then got OFF

into error....because they were NO LONGER being led of the

HOLY Spirit , but of the flesh.

(OR ....they were never led of the Holy Spirit in the first place,

but had only religion, because they were never

born again.)

That is why it is Important , when listening to some preacher ,

to CHECK OUT and SEE

WHAT THE WORD OF GOD SAYS FOR ONESELF.....

and NOT follow after man....or after every whim of doctrine

being preached out there today.

You're still subscribing to a religion though when you tie your beliefs solely into what a book says. You cannot separate the two.

What do all churches have in common? As much as they differ, they all teach from the same source, being the Bible. Coincidence?

One last time:

God wants RELATIONSHIP ,

NOT

RELIGION

with His creation.

No subscribing to any "religion". Only submitting ourselves to the will of God. Which is then called religion because of people that lack there of. It's considered religion to keep it out of the for sure area cause they do not wish to believe in it, they do not wish for it to be true. So they put it on a level that may or may not be true, religion. Makes them feel more comfortable about their beliefs in God and or lack there of.

That is why I tell people I don't have any "religion."
That is why I do not claim to be "Christian."

My relationship is with GOD.
It is NOT with religion or with a Book that claims that Jesus is God.

"Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God."

How do you KNOW it's the will of God Cowboy? Does God tell you or does man?

A book can claim to be something, but it doesn't neccessarily make it true.

And once more, you are showing you are doing more than discussing, when you claim something is unequivically from God. It puts your beliefs above all others, whether you admit that or not, whether you realize that or not.

How do you KNOW it's the will of God Cowboy? Does God tell you or does man?

It puts your beliefs above all others, whether you admit that or not, whether you realize that or

This, if all God wants is a relationship, than whether one believes in a book claiming to come from him or not, really shouldn't matter, so long as they believe in Him period. All the rest is just not neccessary. It can be an extension of beliefs mind you, as things from any of the different religions can be, but it's not needed to know God. To say that it is, is pretty damn arrogant.

There's a quote that applies here, and it goes this way:

"Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God."

One would be wise to keep this in mind.

Yes God lets me know, God lets everyone know. Just some ignore his message, get mad over it, get frustrated with it. But nevertheless God tells everyone, it is the person's choice to listen or not.



Why do people in their discussing try to point fingers and make the Christian(s) look bad? Cause you do the exact same thing, when you renounce a belief and hold another belief, you are automatically putting your beliefs above all others. Why would you follow a belief you truly seen as the least of the beliefs? Wouldn't make much sense.

Yes one's relationship is with God and God alone. I think it's funny how people that lack the Christian faith, continuously mention it coming from a book. The book itself is not important. Even the knowledge in the bible can not make a relationship between you and God. It is merely knowledge, history, and future prophecies. To make an apple pie, one must first find the apple. But once that someone finds the apple, how are they going to make the pie if they do not know how it is done? That is where the scriptures in the bible come into play, they give you the knowledge on how to make your apple pie.

And that is not the only book that contains the knowledge and wisdom of God. There are many others.