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I'm sorry, but when our troops come home, I thank the soldiers, not the flag.
When our vets are dying homeless in the streets, it's not the flag that let them down, it's our government. My Sensei fought in Vietnam and Desert Storm for America. He died several months ago a homeless vet. He struggled from the moment he came home. He didn't lose his leg overseas, no, he lost it at the VA waiting for treatment for gangrene after stepping on a rusty nail. After losing his leg, he busted *** teaching martial arts to several students. He was a kind hearted man that the government overlooked. He went out of his way for his friends and his students. And he died a homeless vet. http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/Program_Gives_Homeless_Veteran_A_Military_Funeral_118457094.html Did a flag pay for his funeral? No. Did the GOVERNMENT pay for his funeral? No. A group of people that believes no vet should die alone paid. 1 in 4 homeless people are vets. Yep. This is how we treat those brave soldiers that risk their lives for us. We cast them out. Don't they get shat on enough overseas? http://www.dependablestrengths.org/veterans_challenges.htm So yeah, burn the flag (which is legal because the founding fathers deemed it so as not to limit our freedoms), because the flag is not what the soldiers are dying for. It's America and it's freedoms they are dying for. Even when statistics show that when they are done fighting, they will most like die as homeless vets. I'm sorry, but the FLAG has done nothing for me lately. The soldiers have. I will thank a soldier before I thank a flying piece of colored fabric synthetically made in China. |
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Um.... Not that I condone flag burning but.... What the F**K happened to freedom of speech???? Not that I would ever do it cause I think it retarded and a waste of time, but if I was to burn the American flag it would be for one reason and one reason alone... The nation that created the flag is no longer the nation that should wave the flag. The three colors on the American Flag stand for: Red: Hardiness , valor,strength, and bravery We are a nation that is at war with countries we have no business being in. We are a country that cares not for our own homeless, but spends billions of dollars feeding the rest of the world's homeless.... White: peace and honesty Our politicians lie to us daily. Our own presidents can't keep their lies in order. We are AT WAR FOR 10 YEARS and apparently have no plans to withdraw... Blue: Vigilance, Perseverance, Justice, Truth, and Loyalty Oh sure, we are vigilant and persevere at killing and staying in war. We are vigilant at letting illegals take over our country and use our resources meant for the citizens. We let murderers free and wrongly execute innocent people http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-and-death-penalty Our presidents and politicians lie to us, our government lies to us. We turn our backs on our own citizens and turn around and give the money and our military to places that don't want us or our help in the first place. Anyway, this is just my opinion. I'm not anti-American. I am just saying that we should have the right to express ourselves. After all, we can't say we are truly free if we don't have the rights to those freedoms. I am all for expressing yourself. Hell, if I saw a flag burner, someone slapping every man and woman who died for our country in the face, I would express myself and my opinions by beating the ever loving crap out of them. You're going to beat the crap out of them for doing something they have the right to do? You may not agree with it, but they certainly have the right to do so. |
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I'm sorry, but when our troops come home, I thank the soldiers, not the flag. When our vets are dying homeless in the streets, it's not the flag that let them down, it's our government. My Sensei fought in Vietnam and Desert Storm for America. He died several months ago a homeless vet. He struggled from the moment he came home. He didn't lose his leg overseas, no, he lost it at the VA waiting for treatment for gangrene after stepping on a rusty nail. After losing his leg, he busted *** teaching martial arts to several students. He was a kind hearted man that the government overlooked. He went out of his way for his friends and his students. And he died a homeless vet. http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/Program_Gives_Homeless_Veteran_A_Military_Funeral_118457094.html Did a flag pay for his funeral? No. Did the GOVERNMENT pay for his funeral? No. A group of people that believes no vet should die alone paid. 1 in 4 homeless people are vets. Yep. This is how we treat those brave soldiers that risk their lives for us. We cast them out. Don't they get shat on enough overseas? http://www.dependablestrengths.org/veterans_challenges.htm So yeah, burn the flag (which is legal because the founding fathers deemed it so as not to limit our freedoms), because the flag is not what the soldiers are dying for. It's America and it's freedoms they are dying for. Even when statistics show that when they are done fighting, they will most like die as homeless vets. I'm sorry, but the FLAG has done nothing for me lately. The soldiers have. I will thank a soldier before I thank a flying piece of colored fabric synthetically made in China.  well said, I thank soldiers whenever I encounter them,,they are the heroes,, not a flag,,,,,,,,, |
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I'm sorry, but when our troops come home, I thank the soldiers, not the flag. When our vets are dying homeless in the streets, it's not the flag that let them down, it's our government. My Sensei fought in Vietnam and Desert Storm for America. He died several months ago a homeless vet. He struggled from the moment he came home. He didn't lose his leg overseas, no, he lost it at the VA waiting for treatment for gangrene after stepping on a rusty nail. After losing his leg, he busted *** teaching martial arts to several students. He was a kind hearted man that the government overlooked. He went out of his way for his friends and his students. And he died a homeless vet. http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/Program_Gives_Homeless_Veteran_A_Military_Funeral_118457094.html Did a flag pay for his funeral? No. Did the GOVERNMENT pay for his funeral? No. A group of people that believes no vet should die alone paid. 1 in 4 homeless people are vets. Yep. This is how we treat those brave soldiers that risk their lives for us. We cast them out. Don't they get shat on enough overseas? http://www.dependablestrengths.org/veterans_challenges.htm So yeah, burn the flag (which is legal because the founding fathers deemed it so as not to limit our freedoms), because the flag is not what the soldiers are dying for. It's America and it's freedoms they are dying for. Even when statistics show that when they are done fighting, they will most like die as homeless vets. I'm sorry, but the FLAG has done nothing for me lately. The soldiers have. I will thank a soldier before I thank a flying piece of colored fabric synthetically made in China. so burn a flag, that will make everything right... |
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I'm sorry, but when our troops come home, I thank the soldiers, not the flag. When our vets are dying homeless in the streets, it's not the flag that let them down, it's our government. My Sensei fought in Vietnam and Desert Storm for America. He died several months ago a homeless vet. He struggled from the moment he came home. He didn't lose his leg overseas, no, he lost it at the VA waiting for treatment for gangrene after stepping on a rusty nail. After losing his leg, he busted *** teaching martial arts to several students. He was a kind hearted man that the government overlooked. He went out of his way for his friends and his students. And he died a homeless vet. http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/Program_Gives_Homeless_Veteran_A_Military_Funeral_118457094.html Did a flag pay for his funeral? No. Did the GOVERNMENT pay for his funeral? No. A group of people that believes no vet should die alone paid. 1 in 4 homeless people are vets. Yep. This is how we treat those brave soldiers that risk their lives for us. We cast them out. Don't they get shat on enough overseas? http://www.dependablestrengths.org/veterans_challenges.htm So yeah, burn the flag (which is legal because the founding fathers deemed it so as not to limit our freedoms), because the flag is not what the soldiers are dying for. It's America and it's freedoms they are dying for. Even when statistics show that when they are done fighting, they will most like die as homeless vets. I'm sorry, but the FLAG has done nothing for me lately. The soldiers have. I will thank a soldier before I thank a flying piece of colored fabric synthetically made in China. so burn a flag, that will make everything right... of course it wont, anymore than griping in a forum about politics will change the government but we all have the right to make such statements verbally or symbolically |
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I'm sorry, but when our troops come home, I thank the soldiers, not the flag. When our vets are dying homeless in the streets, it's not the flag that let them down, it's our government. My Sensei fought in Vietnam and Desert Storm for America. He died several months ago a homeless vet. He struggled from the moment he came home. He didn't lose his leg overseas, no, he lost it at the VA waiting for treatment for gangrene after stepping on a rusty nail. After losing his leg, he busted *** teaching martial arts to several students. He was a kind hearted man that the government overlooked. He went out of his way for his friends and his students. And he died a homeless vet. http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/Program_Gives_Homeless_Veteran_A_Military_Funeral_118457094.html Did a flag pay for his funeral? No. Did the GOVERNMENT pay for his funeral? No. A group of people that believes no vet should die alone paid. 1 in 4 homeless people are vets. Yep. This is how we treat those brave soldiers that risk their lives for us. We cast them out. Don't they get shat on enough overseas? http://www.dependablestrengths.org/veterans_challenges.htm So yeah, burn the flag (which is legal because the founding fathers deemed it so as not to limit our freedoms), because the flag is not what the soldiers are dying for. It's America and it's freedoms they are dying for. Even when statistics show that when they are done fighting, they will most like die as homeless vets. I'm sorry, but the FLAG has done nothing for me lately. The soldiers have. I will thank a soldier before I thank a flying piece of colored fabric synthetically made in China. so burn a flag, that will make everything right... of course it wont, anymore than griping in a forum about politics will change the government but we all have the right to make such statements verbally or symbolically |
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I'm sorry, but when our troops come home, I thank the soldiers, not the flag. When our vets are dying homeless in the streets, it's not the flag that let them down, it's our government. My Sensei fought in Vietnam and Desert Storm for America. He died several months ago a homeless vet. He struggled from the moment he came home. He didn't lose his leg overseas, no, he lost it at the VA waiting for treatment for gangrene after stepping on a rusty nail. After losing his leg, he busted *** teaching martial arts to several students. He was a kind hearted man that the government overlooked. He went out of his way for his friends and his students. And he died a homeless vet. http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/Program_Gives_Homeless_Veteran_A_Military_Funeral_118457094.html Did a flag pay for his funeral? No. Did the GOVERNMENT pay for his funeral? No. A group of people that believes no vet should die alone paid. 1 in 4 homeless people are vets. Yep. This is how we treat those brave soldiers that risk their lives for us. We cast them out. Don't they get shat on enough overseas? http://www.dependablestrengths.org/veterans_challenges.htm So yeah, burn the flag (which is legal because the founding fathers deemed it so as not to limit our freedoms), because the flag is not what the soldiers are dying for. It's America and it's freedoms they are dying for. Even when statistics show that when they are done fighting, they will most like die as homeless vets. I'm sorry, but the FLAG has done nothing for me lately. The soldiers have. I will thank a soldier before I thank a flying piece of colored fabric synthetically made in China. so burn a flag, that will make everything right... of course it wont, anymore than griping in a forum about politics will change the government but we all have the right to make such statements verbally or symbolically the point is to express an opinion, make a statement, just like the 'point' of the posts in this forum |
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I'm sorry, but when our troops come home, I thank the soldiers, not the flag. When our vets are dying homeless in the streets, it's not the flag that let them down, it's our government. My Sensei fought in Vietnam and Desert Storm for America. He died several months ago a homeless vet. He struggled from the moment he came home. He didn't lose his leg overseas, no, he lost it at the VA waiting for treatment for gangrene after stepping on a rusty nail. After losing his leg, he busted *** teaching martial arts to several students. He was a kind hearted man that the government overlooked. He went out of his way for his friends and his students. And he died a homeless vet. http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/Program_Gives_Homeless_Veteran_A_Military_Funeral_118457094.html Did a flag pay for his funeral? No. Did the GOVERNMENT pay for his funeral? No. A group of people that believes no vet should die alone paid. 1 in 4 homeless people are vets. Yep. This is how we treat those brave soldiers that risk their lives for us. We cast them out. Don't they get shat on enough overseas? http://www.dependablestrengths.org/veterans_challenges.htm So yeah, burn the flag (which is legal because the founding fathers deemed it so as not to limit our freedoms), because the flag is not what the soldiers are dying for. It's America and it's freedoms they are dying for. Even when statistics show that when they are done fighting, they will most like die as homeless vets. I'm sorry, but the FLAG has done nothing for me lately. The soldiers have. I will thank a soldier before I thank a flying piece of colored fabric synthetically made in China. so burn a flag, that will make everything right... of course it wont, anymore than griping in a forum about politics will change the government but we all have the right to make such statements verbally or symbolically the point is to express an opinion, make a statement, just like the 'point' of the posts in this forum there is no point, its pointless..... |
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I'm sorry, but when our troops come home, I thank the soldiers, not the flag. When our vets are dying homeless in the streets, it's not the flag that let them down, it's our government. My Sensei fought in Vietnam and Desert Storm for America. He died several months ago a homeless vet. He struggled from the moment he came home. He didn't lose his leg overseas, no, he lost it at the VA waiting for treatment for gangrene after stepping on a rusty nail. After losing his leg, he busted *** teaching martial arts to several students. He was a kind hearted man that the government overlooked. He went out of his way for his friends and his students. And he died a homeless vet. http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/Program_Gives_Homeless_Veteran_A_Military_Funeral_118457094.html Did a flag pay for his funeral? No. Did the GOVERNMENT pay for his funeral? No. A group of people that believes no vet should die alone paid. 1 in 4 homeless people are vets. Yep. This is how we treat those brave soldiers that risk their lives for us. We cast them out. Don't they get shat on enough overseas? http://www.dependablestrengths.org/veterans_challenges.htm So yeah, burn the flag (which is legal because the founding fathers deemed it so as not to limit our freedoms), because the flag is not what the soldiers are dying for. It's America and it's freedoms they are dying for. Even when statistics show that when they are done fighting, they will most like die as homeless vets. I'm sorry, but the FLAG has done nothing for me lately. The soldiers have. I will thank a soldier before I thank a flying piece of colored fabric synthetically made in China. so burn a flag, that will make everything right... of course it wont, anymore than griping in a forum about politics will change the government but we all have the right to make such statements verbally or symbolically the point is to express an opinion, make a statement, just like the 'point' of the posts in this forum there is no point, its pointless..... as 'pointless' as this thread,, and yet,, here we are 
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I'm sorry, but when our troops come home, I thank the soldiers, not the flag. When our vets are dying homeless in the streets, it's not the flag that let them down, it's our government. My Sensei fought in Vietnam and Desert Storm for America. He died several months ago a homeless vet. He struggled from the moment he came home. He didn't lose his leg overseas, no, he lost it at the VA waiting for treatment for gangrene after stepping on a rusty nail. After losing his leg, he busted *** teaching martial arts to several students. He was a kind hearted man that the government overlooked. He went out of his way for his friends and his students. And he died a homeless vet. http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/Program_Gives_Homeless_Veteran_A_Military_Funeral_118457094.html Did a flag pay for his funeral? No. Did the GOVERNMENT pay for his funeral? No. A group of people that believes no vet should die alone paid. 1 in 4 homeless people are vets. Yep. This is how we treat those brave soldiers that risk their lives for us. We cast them out. Don't they get shat on enough overseas? http://www.dependablestrengths.org/veterans_challenges.htm So yeah, burn the flag (which is legal because the founding fathers deemed it so as not to limit our freedoms), because the flag is not what the soldiers are dying for. It's America and it's freedoms they are dying for. Even when statistics show that when they are done fighting, they will most like die as homeless vets. I'm sorry, but the FLAG has done nothing for me lately. The soldiers have. I will thank a soldier before I thank a flying piece of colored fabric synthetically made in China. so burn a flag, that will make everything right... of course it wont, anymore than griping in a forum about politics will change the government but we all have the right to make such statements verbally or symbolically the point is to express an opinion, make a statement, just like the 'point' of the posts in this forum there is no point, its pointless..... as 'pointless' as this thread,, and yet,, here we are if you say so |
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Um.... Not that I condone flag burning but.... What the F**K happened to freedom of speech???? Not that I would ever do it cause I think it retarded and a waste of time, but if I was to burn the American flag it would be for one reason and one reason alone... The nation that created the flag is no longer the nation that should wave the flag. The three colors on the American Flag stand for: Red: Hardiness , valor,strength, and bravery We are a nation that is at war with countries we have no business being in. We are a country that cares not for our own homeless, but spends billions of dollars feeding the rest of the world's homeless.... White: peace and honesty Our politicians lie to us daily. Our own presidents can't keep their lies in order. We are AT WAR FOR 10 YEARS and apparently have no plans to withdraw... Blue: Vigilance, Perseverance, Justice, Truth, and Loyalty Oh sure, we are vigilant and persevere at killing and staying in war. We are vigilant at letting illegals take over our country and use our resources meant for the citizens. We let murderers free and wrongly execute innocent people http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-and-death-penalty Our presidents and politicians lie to us, our government lies to us. We turn our backs on our own citizens and turn around and give the money and our military to places that don't want us or our help in the first place. Anyway, this is just my opinion. I'm not anti-American. I am just saying that we should have the right to express ourselves. After all, we can't say we are truly free if we don't have the rights to those freedoms. I am all for expressing yourself. Hell, if I saw a flag burner, someone slapping every man and woman who died for our country in the face, I would express myself and my opinions by beating the ever loving crap out of them. You're going to beat the crap out of them for doing something they have the right to do? You may not agree with it, but they certainly have the right to do so. Yup I would. |
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Um.... Not that I condone flag burning but.... What the F**K happened to freedom of speech???? Not that I would ever do it cause I think it retarded and a waste of time, but if I was to burn the American flag it would be for one reason and one reason alone... The nation that created the flag is no longer the nation that should wave the flag. The three colors on the American Flag stand for: Red: Hardiness , valor,strength, and bravery We are a nation that is at war with countries we have no business being in. We are a country that cares not for our own homeless, but spends billions of dollars feeding the rest of the world's homeless.... White: peace and honesty Our politicians lie to us daily. Our own presidents can't keep their lies in order. We are AT WAR FOR 10 YEARS and apparently have no plans to withdraw... Blue: Vigilance, Perseverance, Justice, Truth, and Loyalty Oh sure, we are vigilant and persevere at killing and staying in war. We are vigilant at letting illegals take over our country and use our resources meant for the citizens. We let murderers free and wrongly execute innocent people http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-and-death-penalty Our presidents and politicians lie to us, our government lies to us. We turn our backs on our own citizens and turn around and give the money and our military to places that don't want us or our help in the first place. Anyway, this is just my opinion. I'm not anti-American. I am just saying that we should have the right to express ourselves. After all, we can't say we are truly free if we don't have the rights to those freedoms. I am all for expressing yourself. Hell, if I saw a flag burner, someone slapping every man and woman who died for our country in the face, I would express myself and my opinions by beating the ever loving crap out of them. You're going to beat the crap out of them for doing something they have the right to do? You may not agree with it, but they certainly have the right to do so. Yup I would. Id say a marriage ring is pretty symbolic of a commitment of marriage, would you condone beating a spouse who in any way intentionally caused damage to their ring too? |
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So Harmony says its ok to burn it because its his property. You know in some countries once you are married the woman is your property. Would it be ok to burn her if you country says you have the right to? Like we are saying there is no positive to flag burning. You can easily protest in other ways. The point is he is doing it to piss people off. If you are doing something to purposefully piss people off and get beat its your own fault. Responsibility for ones actions. Thats what it means to be an adult. give this a rest, a FLAG is not a LIFE,,,comparing it to a woman is kind of preposterous being an adult is allowing others to act as 'foolish' as they wish with their own MATERIAL property, and not putting your hands on them My friends and I were at my friends house having a party outside and my band was playing and cops came and told us to stop. By your logic we are on our property and should be able to do what we want with our property (instruments). You can't just do anything you want all the time. I also wouldn't go to an Eagles game in Philly with a Dallas Jersey on and burn a Phillies jersey. I might get stabbed. Just because they are my property doesn't mean I should be dumb enough to do something just to piss people off that might get me hurt. |
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So Harmony says its ok to burn it because its his property. You know in some countries once you are married the woman is your property. Would it be ok to burn her if you country says you have the right to? Like we are saying there is no positive to flag burning. You can easily protest in other ways. The point is he is doing it to piss people off. If you are doing something to purposefully piss people off and get beat its your own fault. Responsibility for ones actions. Thats what it means to be an adult. give this a rest, a FLAG is not a LIFE,,,comparing it to a woman is kind of preposterous being an adult is allowing others to act as 'foolish' as they wish with their own MATERIAL property, and not putting your hands on them My friends and I were at my friends house having a party outside and my band was playing and cops came and told us to stop. By your logic we are on our property and should be able to do what we want with our property (instruments). You can't just do anything you want all the time. I also wouldn't go to an Eagles game in Philly with a Dallas Jersey on and burn a Phillies jersey. I might get stabbed. Just because they are my property doesn't mean I should be dumb enough to do something just to piss people off that might get me hurt. its not JUST your property if it is ILLEGALLY disrupting the piece(air space) of others if there is a PUBLIC domain which has issued a PERMIT for an event, that is a different thing than people holding events on their pwn property but which also lend over onto OTHERS property we should be cautious of what endangers us, but not to the point of EXCUSING those who would cause physical harm to us it would be stupid of me to walk down a dark alley nude with jewelry around my wrists and neck, but that wouldnt mean anyone should be CONDONING or BOASTING about how willing they would actually be to assault me in such a case,,,, because violent people will find reasons to be violent, we should be cautious, but we shouldnt sink to the logic of those violent people we find ourself trying to be protected from in the first place |
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its not JUST your property if it is ILLEGALLY disrupting the piece(air space) of others if there is a PUBLIC domain which has issued a PERMIT for an event, that is a different thing than people holding events on their pwn property but which also lend over onto OTHERS property we should be cautious of what endangers us, but not to the point of EXCUSING those who would cause physical harm to us it would be stupid of me to walk down a dark alley nude with jewelry around my wrists and neck, but that wouldnt mean anyone should be CONDONING or BOASTING about how willing they would actually be to assault me in such a case,,,, because violent people will find reasons to be violent, we should be cautious, but we shouldnt sink to the logic of those violent people we find ourself trying to be protected from in the first place Your walking down the street isnt the same. Unlike my Jersey analogy you are not defiling a symbol. You are not doing something just to piss people off. Like I said some countries say they can beat their wifes. They have the right to. You think its wrong though. If you were there and saw it would you sit by and do nothing just because they "have the right" to do something you believe is wrong? I think burning a flag on my campus would be a form of pollution too just like noise pollution. |
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So Harmony says its ok to burn it because its his property. You know in some countries once you are married the woman is your property. Would it be ok to burn her if you country says you have the right to? Like we are saying there is no positive to flag burning. You can easily protest in other ways. The point is he is doing it to piss people off. If you are doing something to purposefully piss people off and get beat its your own fault. Responsibility for ones actions. Thats what it means to be an adult. give this a rest, a FLAG is not a LIFE,,,comparing it to a woman is kind of preposterous being an adult is allowing others to act as 'foolish' as they wish with their own MATERIAL property, and not putting your hands on them My friends and I were at my friends house having a party outside and my band was playing and cops came and told us to stop. By your logic we are on our property and should be able to do what we want with our property (instruments). You can't just do anything you want all the time. I also wouldn't go to an Eagles game in Philly with a Dallas Jersey on and burn a Phillies jersey. I might get stabbed. Just because they are my property doesn't mean I should be dumb enough to do something just to piss people off that might get me hurt. its not JUST your property if it is ILLEGALLY disrupting the piece(air space) of others if there is a PUBLIC domain which has issued a PERMIT for an event, that is a different thing than people holding events on their pwn property but which also lend over onto OTHERS property we should be cautious of what endangers us, but not to the point of EXCUSING those who would cause physical harm to us it would be stupid of me to walk down a dark alley nude with jewelry around my wrists and neck, but that wouldnt mean anyone should be CONDONING or BOASTING about how willing they would actually be to assault me in such a case,,,, because violent people will find reasons to be violent, we should be cautious, but we shouldnt sink to the logic of those violent people we find ourself trying to be protected from in the first place i think his point is whenever someone starts screaming about rights, someone else loses there rights. so the people that are throwing the party loses their rights to have this party, because someone says they are infringing their rights to quiet. neither has broken any laws, but there is a problem. and if your dumb enough to walk naked in a dark alley with your jewelry, you deserve whats coming to you to pay for your stupidity. and you do not have the right to walk naked in a dark alley, nor does anyone have the right to assault you either. the constitution says we have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. but not everyone can be happy because of these same rights. |
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its not JUST your property if it is ILLEGALLY disrupting the piece(air space) of others if there is a PUBLIC domain which has issued a PERMIT for an event, that is a different thing than people holding events on their pwn property but which also lend over onto OTHERS property we should be cautious of what endangers us, but not to the point of EXCUSING those who would cause physical harm to us it would be stupid of me to walk down a dark alley nude with jewelry around my wrists and neck, but that wouldnt mean anyone should be CONDONING or BOASTING about how willing they would actually be to assault me in such a case,,,, because violent people will find reasons to be violent, we should be cautious, but we shouldnt sink to the logic of those violent people we find ourself trying to be protected from in the first place Your walking down the street isnt the same. Unlike my Jersey analogy you are not defiling a symbol. You are not doing something just to piss people off. Like I said some countries say they can beat their wifes. They have the right to. You think its wrong though. If you were there and saw it would you sit by and do nothing just because they "have the right" to do something you believe is wrong? I think burning a flag on my campus would be a form of pollution too just like noise pollution. this is where we are lost in translation, apparently, my point being YES I would protect PHYSICAL life with PHYSICAL effort, I will not lay my hands on someone over MATERIAL PROPERTY,,and dont understand anyone condoning such behavior,, |
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So Harmony says its ok to burn it because its his property. You know in some countries once you are married the woman is your property. Would it be ok to burn her if you country says you have the right to? Like we are saying there is no positive to flag burning. You can easily protest in other ways. The point is he is doing it to piss people off. If you are doing something to purposefully piss people off and get beat its your own fault. Responsibility for ones actions. Thats what it means to be an adult. give this a rest, a FLAG is not a LIFE,,,comparing it to a woman is kind of preposterous being an adult is allowing others to act as 'foolish' as they wish with their own MATERIAL property, and not putting your hands on them My friends and I were at my friends house having a party outside and my band was playing and cops came and told us to stop. By your logic we are on our property and should be able to do what we want with our property (instruments). You can't just do anything you want all the time. I also wouldn't go to an Eagles game in Philly with a Dallas Jersey on and burn a Phillies jersey. I might get stabbed. Just because they are my property doesn't mean I should be dumb enough to do something just to piss people off that might get me hurt. its not JUST your property if it is ILLEGALLY disrupting the piece(air space) of others if there is a PUBLIC domain which has issued a PERMIT for an event, that is a different thing than people holding events on their pwn property but which also lend over onto OTHERS property we should be cautious of what endangers us, but not to the point of EXCUSING those who would cause physical harm to us it would be stupid of me to walk down a dark alley nude with jewelry around my wrists and neck, but that wouldnt mean anyone should be CONDONING or BOASTING about how willing they would actually be to assault me in such a case,,,, because violent people will find reasons to be violent, we should be cautious, but we shouldnt sink to the logic of those violent people we find ourself trying to be protected from in the first place i think his point is whenever someone starts screaming about rights, someone else loses there rights. so the people that are throwing the party loses their rights to have this party, because someone says they are infringing their rights to quiet. neither has broken any laws, but there is a problem. and if your dumb enough to walk naked in a dark alley with your jewelry, you deserve whats coming to you to pay for your stupidity. and you do not have the right to walk naked in a dark alley, nor does anyone have the right to assault you either. the constitution says we have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. but not everyone can be happy because of these same rights. and it would be a much less happy place if more people actually felt THEY SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT To assault those who merely 'offended' them in some way |
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So Harmony says its ok to burn it because its his property. You know in some countries once you are married the woman is your property. Would it be ok to burn her if you country says you have the right to? Like we are saying there is no positive to flag burning. You can easily protest in other ways. The point is he is doing it to piss people off. If you are doing something to purposefully piss people off and get beat its your own fault. Responsibility for ones actions. Thats what it means to be an adult. give this a rest, a FLAG is not a LIFE,,,comparing it to a woman is kind of preposterous being an adult is allowing others to act as 'foolish' as they wish with their own MATERIAL property, and not putting your hands on them My friends and I were at my friends house having a party outside and my band was playing and cops came and told us to stop. By your logic we are on our property and should be able to do what we want with our property (instruments). You can't just do anything you want all the time. I also wouldn't go to an Eagles game in Philly with a Dallas Jersey on and burn a Phillies jersey. I might get stabbed. Just because they are my property doesn't mean I should be dumb enough to do something just to piss people off that might get me hurt. its not JUST your property if it is ILLEGALLY disrupting the piece(air space) of others if there is a PUBLIC domain which has issued a PERMIT for an event, that is a different thing than people holding events on their pwn property but which also lend over onto OTHERS property we should be cautious of what endangers us, but not to the point of EXCUSING those who would cause physical harm to us it would be stupid of me to walk down a dark alley nude with jewelry around my wrists and neck, but that wouldnt mean anyone should be CONDONING or BOASTING about how willing they would actually be to assault me in such a case,,,, because violent people will find reasons to be violent, we should be cautious, but we shouldnt sink to the logic of those violent people we find ourself trying to be protected from in the first place i think his point is whenever someone starts screaming about rights, someone else loses there rights. so the people that are throwing the party loses their rights to have this party, because someone says they are infringing their rights to quiet. neither has broken any laws, but there is a problem. and if your dumb enough to walk naked in a dark alley with your jewelry, you deserve whats coming to you to pay for your stupidity. and you do not have the right to walk naked in a dark alley, nor does anyone have the right to assault you either. the constitution says we have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. but not everyone can be happy because of these same rights. and it would be a much less happy place if more people actually felt THEY SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT To assault those who merely 'offended' them in some way a lot of countries do...most of the countries your always defending are like that... remember an eye for an eye?the US is supposed to be majority rules, but it is more of those with power rule and make the laws... i never voted on flag burning being legal or not, someone else decided it for me |
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Chazster
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this is where we are lost in translation, apparently, my point being YES I would protect PHYSICAL life with PHYSICAL effort, I will not lay my hands on someone over MATERIAL PROPERTY,,and dont understand anyone condoning such behavior,, You are missing my point. Your arguments are all about how they have the "right" to do something. Now we are talking about a country that has the right to beat someone you would act. Even though they have the right to do it. So you are acknowledging that even if someone has the right to do something and you find it morally wrong then you would act. In this case you find life something worth protecting even if someone else has the right to cause it harm. Why cant others have this same feeling for something else? Some people feel that the flag is more than a flag and it is something to be protected even if another has the "right" to destroy it. I am just trying to give you some perspective. |
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