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I keep hearing he had the right to burn it, but what is the point of it? just because he has the right, that makes it OK? why does anyone need to publicly burn the flag? if your that unhappy, just move to canada, or mexico... burn their flags, they won't mind either... why post negative comments about others in a forum just because we can? I think the point is not about whether he should(Because thats a moral decision that differs for everyone) the issue was more about whether he has the right to not be ASSAULTED (because thats an issue of law) |
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I keep hearing he had the right to burn it, but what is the point of it? just because he has the right, that makes it OK? why does anyone need to publicly burn the flag? if your that unhappy, just move to canada, or mexico... burn their flags, they won't mind either... why post negative comments about others in a forum just because we can? I think the point is not about whether he should(Because thats a moral decision that differs for everyone) the issue was more about whether he has the right to not be ASSAULTED (because thats an issue of law) he should have been assaulted... why should we watch something we don't wanna see? sometimes to make change, you have to take the law into your own hands... you mentioned muslims stoning women earlier... if the people of muslimworld started stoning the people doing the stoning, do you think it would stop? yes it would, thats the prime example of majority rules |
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I keep hearing he had the right to burn it, but what is the point of it? just because he has the right, that makes it OK? why does anyone need to publicly burn the flag? if your that unhappy, just move to canada, or mexico... burn their flags, they won't mind either... why post negative comments about others in a forum just because we can? I think the point is not about whether he should(Because thats a moral decision that differs for everyone) the issue was more about whether he has the right to not be ASSAULTED (because thats an issue of law) he should have been assaulted... why should we watch something we don't wanna see? sometimes to make change, you have to take the law into your own hands... you mentioned muslims stoning women earlier... if the people of muslimworld started stoning the people doing the stoning, do you think it would stop? yes it would, thats the prime example of majority rules r u serious? you dont have to watch what you dont want to see, unless someone is holding a gun to your head to do so,,,,and I saw no guns,,, taking the law in your hands is no defense because there is no law that allows for assualt on the grounds that we 'dont want to ' see something and if people stone those who stone, wouldnt that mean everyone would eventually die?,,, yes,, everyone dying would just about guarantee no more crimes were EVER committed,,,, |
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I keep hearing he had the right to burn it, but what is the point of it? just because he has the right, that makes it OK? why does anyone need to publicly burn the flag? if your that unhappy, just move to canada, or mexico... burn their flags, they won't mind either... why post negative comments about others in a forum just because we can? I think the point is not about whether he should(Because thats a moral decision that differs for everyone) the issue was more about whether he has the right to not be ASSAULTED (because thats an issue of law) he should have been assaulted... why should we watch something we don't wanna see? sometimes to make change, you have to take the law into your own hands... you mentioned muslims stoning women earlier... if the people of muslimworld started stoning the people doing the stoning, do you think it would stop? yes it would, thats the prime example of majority rules r u serious? you dont have to watch what you dont want to see, unless someone is holding a gun to your head to do so,,,,and I saw no guns,,, taking the law in your hands is no defense because there is no law that allows for assualt on the grounds that we 'dont want to ' see something and if people stone those who stone, wouldnt that mean everyone would eventually die?,,, yes,, everyone dying would just about guarantee no more crimes were EVER committed,,,, gotta do what you gotta do... he has an urge to burn the flag, i get an urge to kick his a$$... no, everyone wouldn't die, just the people that started stoning the women in the first place, and good riddance.. sometimes you have to set an example so others don't want to try something stupid... police do it all the time, so i do to... if you have something to say, just say it, we don't need any visual references to go with it... |
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I keep hearing he had the right to burn it, but what is the point of it? just because he has the right, that makes it OK? why does anyone need to publicly burn the flag? if your that unhappy, just move to canada, or mexico... burn their flags, they won't mind either... why post negative comments about others in a forum just because we can? I think the point is not about whether he should(Because thats a moral decision that differs for everyone) the issue was more about whether he has the right to not be ASSAULTED (because thats an issue of law) he should have been assaulted... why should we watch something we don't wanna see? sometimes to make change, you have to take the law into your own hands... you mentioned muslims stoning women earlier... if the people of muslimworld started stoning the people doing the stoning, do you think it would stop? yes it would, thats the prime example of majority rules r u serious? you dont have to watch what you dont want to see, unless someone is holding a gun to your head to do so,,,,and I saw no guns,,, taking the law in your hands is no defense because there is no law that allows for assualt on the grounds that we 'dont want to ' see something and if people stone those who stone, wouldnt that mean everyone would eventually die?,,, yes,, everyone dying would just about guarantee no more crimes were EVER committed,,,, gotta do what you gotta do... he has an urge to burn the flag, i get an urge to kick his a$$... no, everyone wouldn't die, just the people that started stoning the women in the first place, and good riddance.. sometimes you have to set an example so others don't want to try something stupid... police do it all the time, so i do to... if you have something to say, just say it, we don't need any visual references to go with it... well, you would be in jail , and they wouldnt,,,but as long as you own it and are ok with it,,,,, |
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I keep hearing he had the right to burn it, but what is the point of it? just because he has the right, that makes it OK? why does anyone need to publicly burn the flag? if your that unhappy, just move to canada, or mexico... burn their flags, they won't mind either... why post negative comments about others in a forum just because we can? I think the point is not about whether he should(Because thats a moral decision that differs for everyone) the issue was more about whether he has the right to not be ASSAULTED (because thats an issue of law) he should have been assaulted... why should we watch something we don't wanna see? sometimes to make change, you have to take the law into your own hands... you mentioned muslims stoning women earlier... if the people of muslimworld started stoning the people doing the stoning, do you think it would stop? yes it would, thats the prime example of majority rules r u serious? you dont have to watch what you dont want to see, unless someone is holding a gun to your head to do so,,,,and I saw no guns,,, taking the law in your hands is no defense because there is no law that allows for assualt on the grounds that we 'dont want to ' see something and if people stone those who stone, wouldnt that mean everyone would eventually die?,,, yes,, everyone dying would just about guarantee no more crimes were EVER committed,,,, gotta do what you gotta do... he has an urge to burn the flag, i get an urge to kick his a$$... no, everyone wouldn't die, just the people that started stoning the women in the first place, and good riddance.. sometimes you have to set an example so others don't want to try something stupid... police do it all the time, so i do to... if you have something to say, just say it, we don't need any visual references to go with it... well, you would be in jail , and they wouldnt,,,but as long as you own it and are ok with it,,,,, it's only illegal if you get caught... |
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I keep hearing he had the right to burn it, but what is the point of it? just because he has the right, that makes it OK? why does anyone need to publicly burn the flag? if your that unhappy, just move to canada, or mexico... burn their flags, they won't mind either... why post negative comments about others in a forum just because we can? I think the point is not about whether he should(Because thats a moral decision that differs for everyone) the issue was more about whether he has the right to not be ASSAULTED (because thats an issue of law) he should have been assaulted... why should we watch something we don't wanna see? sometimes to make change, you have to take the law into your own hands... you mentioned muslims stoning women earlier... if the people of muslimworld started stoning the people doing the stoning, do you think it would stop? yes it would, thats the prime example of majority rules r u serious? you dont have to watch what you dont want to see, unless someone is holding a gun to your head to do so,,,,and I saw no guns,,, taking the law in your hands is no defense because there is no law that allows for assualt on the grounds that we 'dont want to ' see something and if people stone those who stone, wouldnt that mean everyone would eventually die?,,, yes,, everyone dying would just about guarantee no more crimes were EVER committed,,,, gotta do what you gotta do... he has an urge to burn the flag, i get an urge to kick his a$$... no, everyone wouldn't die, just the people that started stoning the women in the first place, and good riddance.. sometimes you have to set an example so others don't want to try something stupid... police do it all the time, so i do to... if you have something to say, just say it, we don't need any visual references to go with it... well, you would be in jail , and they wouldnt,,,but as long as you own it and are ok with it,,,,, it's only illegal if you get caught... you only get charged if you get caught, its illegal even when you are running from the consequences of it though |
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I keep hearing he had the right to burn it, but what is the point of it? just because he has the right, that makes it OK? why does anyone need to publicly burn the flag? if your that unhappy, just move to canada, or mexico... burn their flags, they won't mind either... why post negative comments about others in a forum just because we can? I think the point is not about whether he should(Because thats a moral decision that differs for everyone) the issue was more about whether he has the right to not be ASSAULTED (because thats an issue of law) he should have been assaulted... why should we watch something we don't wanna see? sometimes to make change, you have to take the law into your own hands... you mentioned muslims stoning women earlier... if the people of muslimworld started stoning the people doing the stoning, do you think it would stop? yes it would, thats the prime example of majority rules r u serious? you dont have to watch what you dont want to see, unless someone is holding a gun to your head to do so,,,,and I saw no guns,,, taking the law in your hands is no defense because there is no law that allows for assualt on the grounds that we 'dont want to ' see something and if people stone those who stone, wouldnt that mean everyone would eventually die?,,, yes,, everyone dying would just about guarantee no more crimes were EVER committed,,,, gotta do what you gotta do... he has an urge to burn the flag, i get an urge to kick his a$$... no, everyone wouldn't die, just the people that started stoning the women in the first place, and good riddance.. sometimes you have to set an example so others don't want to try something stupid... police do it all the time, so i do to... if you have something to say, just say it, we don't need any visual references to go with it... well, you would be in jail , and they wouldnt,,,but as long as you own it and are ok with it,,,,, it's only illegal if you get caught... you only get charged if you get caught, its illegal even when you are running from the consequences of it though yea, but he will think twice about burning a flag the next time, won't he?... |
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I keep hearing he had the right to burn it, but what is the point of it? just because he has the right, that makes it OK? why does anyone need to publicly burn the flag? if your that unhappy, just move to canada, or mexico... burn their flags, they won't mind either... why post negative comments about others in a forum just because we can? I think the point is not about whether he should(Because thats a moral decision that differs for everyone) the issue was more about whether he has the right to not be ASSAULTED (because thats an issue of law) he should have been assaulted... why should we watch something we don't wanna see? sometimes to make change, you have to take the law into your own hands... you mentioned muslims stoning women earlier... if the people of muslimworld started stoning the people doing the stoning, do you think it would stop? yes it would, thats the prime example of majority rules r u serious? you dont have to watch what you dont want to see, unless someone is holding a gun to your head to do so,,,,and I saw no guns,,, taking the law in your hands is no defense because there is no law that allows for assualt on the grounds that we 'dont want to ' see something and if people stone those who stone, wouldnt that mean everyone would eventually die?,,, yes,, everyone dying would just about guarantee no more crimes were EVER committed,,,, gotta do what you gotta do... he has an urge to burn the flag, i get an urge to kick his a$$... no, everyone wouldn't die, just the people that started stoning the women in the first place, and good riddance.. sometimes you have to set an example so others don't want to try something stupid... police do it all the time, so i do to... if you have something to say, just say it, we don't need any visual references to go with it... well, you would be in jail , and they wouldnt,,,but as long as you own it and are ok with it,,,,, it's only illegal if you get caught... you only get charged if you get caught, its illegal even when you are running from the consequences of it though yea, but he will think twice about burning a flag the next time, won't he?... about as likely as those who get charged with assault think twice before assaulting someone else who is doing or showing something they ' dont want to see' |
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I keep hearing he had the right to burn it, but what is the point of it? just because he has the right, that makes it OK? why does anyone need to publicly burn the flag? if your that unhappy, just move to canada, or mexico... burn their flags, they won't mind either... why post negative comments about others in a forum just because we can? I think the point is not about whether he should(Because thats a moral decision that differs for everyone) the issue was more about whether he has the right to not be ASSAULTED (because thats an issue of law) he should have been assaulted... why should we watch something we don't wanna see? sometimes to make change, you have to take the law into your own hands... you mentioned muslims stoning women earlier... if the people of muslimworld started stoning the people doing the stoning, do you think it would stop? yes it would, thats the prime example of majority rules r u serious? you dont have to watch what you dont want to see, unless someone is holding a gun to your head to do so,,,,and I saw no guns,,, taking the law in your hands is no defense because there is no law that allows for assualt on the grounds that we 'dont want to ' see something and if people stone those who stone, wouldnt that mean everyone would eventually die?,,, yes,, everyone dying would just about guarantee no more crimes were EVER committed,,,, gotta do what you gotta do... he has an urge to burn the flag, i get an urge to kick his a$$... no, everyone wouldn't die, just the people that started stoning the women in the first place, and good riddance.. sometimes you have to set an example so others don't want to try something stupid... police do it all the time, so i do to... if you have something to say, just say it, we don't need any visual references to go with it... well, you would be in jail , and they wouldnt,,,but as long as you own it and are ok with it,,,,, it's only illegal if you get caught... you only get charged if you get caught, its illegal even when you are running from the consequences of it though yea, but he will think twice about burning a flag the next time, won't he?... about as likely as those who get charged with assault think twice before assaulting someone else who is doing or showing something they ' dont want to see' well, you can sit quietly and talk about the things you don't like and do nothing, while i would rather not be on the sidelines... for every "right" they have, i do to... |
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I keep hearing he had the right to burn it, but what is the point of it? just because he has the right, that makes it OK? why does anyone need to publicly burn the flag? if your that unhappy, just move to canada, or mexico... burn their flags, they won't mind either... why post negative comments about others in a forum just because we can? I think the point is not about whether he should(Because thats a moral decision that differs for everyone) the issue was more about whether he has the right to not be ASSAULTED (because thats an issue of law) he should have been assaulted... why should we watch something we don't wanna see? sometimes to make change, you have to take the law into your own hands... you mentioned muslims stoning women earlier... if the people of muslimworld started stoning the people doing the stoning, do you think it would stop? yes it would, thats the prime example of majority rules r u serious? you dont have to watch what you dont want to see, unless someone is holding a gun to your head to do so,,,,and I saw no guns,,, taking the law in your hands is no defense because there is no law that allows for assualt on the grounds that we 'dont want to ' see something and if people stone those who stone, wouldnt that mean everyone would eventually die?,,, yes,, everyone dying would just about guarantee no more crimes were EVER committed,,,, gotta do what you gotta do... he has an urge to burn the flag, i get an urge to kick his a$$... no, everyone wouldn't die, just the people that started stoning the women in the first place, and good riddance.. sometimes you have to set an example so others don't want to try something stupid... police do it all the time, so i do to... if you have something to say, just say it, we don't need any visual references to go with it... well, you would be in jail , and they wouldnt,,,but as long as you own it and are ok with it,,,,, it's only illegal if you get caught... you only get charged if you get caught, its illegal even when you are running from the consequences of it though yea, but he will think twice about burning a flag the next time, won't he?... about as likely as those who get charged with assault think twice before assaulting someone else who is doing or showing something they ' dont want to see' Not if you have witnesses who say you got hit first and you know how to write a report. |
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Not that I condone flag burning but.... What the F**K happened to freedom of speech???? Not that I would ever do it cause I think it retarded and a waste of time, but if I was to burn the American flag it would be for one reason and one reason alone... The nation that created the flag is no longer the nation that should wave the flag. The three colors on the American Flag stand for: Red: Hardiness , valor,strength, and bravery We are a nation that is at war with countries we have no business being in. We are a country that cares not for our own homeless, but spends billions of dollars feeding the rest of the world's homeless.... White: peace and honesty Our politicians lie to us daily. Our own presidents can't keep their lies in order. We are AT WAR FOR 10 YEARS and apparently have no plans to withdraw... Blue: Vigilance, Perseverance, Justice, Truth, and Loyalty Oh sure, we are vigilant and persevere at killing and staying in war. We are vigilant at letting illegals take over our country and use our resources meant for the citizens. We let murderers free and wrongly execute innocent people http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-and-death-penalty Our presidents and politicians lie to us, our government lies to us. We turn our backs on our own citizens and turn around and give the money and our military to places that don't want us or our help in the first place. Anyway, this is just my opinion. I'm not anti-American. I am just saying that we should have the right to express ourselves. After all, we can't say we are truly free if we don't have the rights to those freedoms. |
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Um.... Not that I condone flag burning but.... What the F**K happened to freedom of speech???? Not that I would ever do it cause I think it retarded and a waste of time, but if I was to burn the American flag it would be for one reason and one reason alone... The nation that created the flag is no longer the nation that should wave the flag. The three colors on the American Flag stand for: Red: Hardiness , valor,strength, and bravery We are a nation that is at war with countries we have no business being in. We are a country that cares not for our own homeless, but spends billions of dollars feeding the rest of the world's homeless.... White: peace and honesty Our politicians lie to us daily. Our own presidents can't keep their lies in order. We are AT WAR FOR 10 YEARS and apparently have no plans to withdraw... Blue: Vigilance, Perseverance, Justice, Truth, and Loyalty Oh sure, we are vigilant and persevere at killing and staying in war. We are vigilant at letting illegals take over our country and use our resources meant for the citizens. We let murderers free and wrongly execute innocent people http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-and-death-penalty Our presidents and politicians lie to us, our government lies to us. We turn our backs on our own citizens and turn around and give the money and our military to places that don't want us or our help in the first place. Anyway, this is just my opinion. I'm not anti-American. I am just saying that we should have the right to express ourselves. After all, we can't say we are truly free if we don't have the rights to those freedoms. we ALL have the right to express ourselves,and what is the expression that is being shown? they they are idiots. and by burning our flag is showing resentment and anti American values. So someone is not happy, burning a flag makes them happy? what is it showing is someones stupidity... so we are at war... big deal, when are we not somewhere killing someone? name a time in the last 200 years that we were at peace? same with all the other superpowers, someone is always pissed off at someone else. so burning a flag is going to change anything of human nature? no, it just pisses other people off. like that idiot preacher the burned the quran's a few months ago... did he change anything? no, he just pissed more people off, and got people killed for nothing. nothing good ever comes out of this type of behavior, and if anyone can show me where something good has come out of it, please post it... |
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 In Iraq, offend your husband with adultery and get stoned in America, offend 'patriots' by burning symbolic cloth and get 'beaten'? guess we are more alike than we wish to admit,,,, Bad analogy. Adultery is something you do for yourself and you try to keep it secret. Maybe you just give into desires. Burning a flag is done just to piss people off. Its like me walking up to you and spitting in your face. Its just to piss you off. There are other better ways to prove a point. You are doing it this way to be offensive. who says? if I buy a bag and throw it out, why would you be offended? likewise if I purchase a flag and burn it,, what has that to do with anyone else specifically? adultery is a PERSONAL OFFENSE against someone we share our life with and who expects our trust a flag is a piece of cloth someone else bought but whose treatment should earn more disdain from a stranger than adultery should earn from a spouse? I think its backwards and a serious flaw in priorities,,, He didn't buy a flag to burn in secret. He went to burn it in public. He did it to make people mad. Just like some people may commit adultery to make their spouse mad but usually its for something else. Yes if burning a bag makes people mad in a culture and you decide to burn a bag in that culture in public thats your own fault. |
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well, you would be in jail , and they wouldnt,,,but as long as you own it and are ok with it,,,,, I doubt he would be in jail for long. It would be a crime of passion. Any decent lawyer would be able to get him off pretty lightly I am sure. |
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Just because there is freedom of speech, doesn't make it the right thing to do.
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Freedom of speech IMO has been grossly misinterpreted. Disgracing the flag in any way should hold the same punishment as treason. |
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I keep hearing he had the right to burn it, but what is the point of it? just because he has the right, that makes it OK? why does anyone need to publicly burn the flag? if your that unhappy, just move to canada, or mexico... burn their flags, they won't mind either... why post negative comments about others in a forum just because we can? I think the point is not about whether he should(Because thats a moral decision that differs for everyone) the issue was more about whether he has the right to not be ASSAULTED (because thats an issue of law) he should have been assaulted... why should we watch something we don't wanna see? sometimes to make change, you have to take the law into your own hands... you mentioned muslims stoning women earlier... if the people of muslimworld started stoning the people doing the stoning, do you think it would stop? yes it would, thats the prime example of majority rules r u serious? you dont have to watch what you dont want to see, unless someone is holding a gun to your head to do so,,,,and I saw no guns,,, taking the law in your hands is no defense because there is no law that allows for assualt on the grounds that we 'dont want to ' see something and if people stone those who stone, wouldnt that mean everyone would eventually die?,,, yes,, everyone dying would just about guarantee no more crimes were EVER committed,,,, gotta do what you gotta do... he has an urge to burn the flag, i get an urge to kick his a$$... no, everyone wouldn't die, just the people that started stoning the women in the first place, and good riddance.. sometimes you have to set an example so others don't want to try something stupid... police do it all the time, so i do to... if you have something to say, just say it, we don't need any visual references to go with it... well, you would be in jail , and they wouldnt,,,but as long as you own it and are ok with it,,,,, it's only illegal if you get caught... you only get charged if you get caught, its illegal even when you are running from the consequences of it though yea, but he will think twice about burning a flag the next time, won't he?... about as likely as those who get charged with assault think twice before assaulting someone else who is doing or showing something they ' dont want to see' Not if you have witnesses who say you got hit first and you know how to write a report. so we dont condone burning a cloth but we condone assault AND fraud what a great consistent western culture we have,,, |
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In Iraq, offend your husband with adultery and get stoned in America, offend 'patriots' by burning symbolic cloth and get 'beaten'? guess we are more alike than we wish to admit,,,, Bad analogy. Adultery is something you do for yourself and you try to keep it secret. Maybe you just give into desires. Burning a flag is done just to piss people off. Its like me walking up to you and spitting in your face. Its just to piss you off. There are other better ways to prove a point. You are doing it this way to be offensive. who says? if I buy a bag and throw it out, why would you be offended? likewise if I purchase a flag and burn it,, what has that to do with anyone else specifically? adultery is a PERSONAL OFFENSE against someone we share our life with and who expects our trust a flag is a piece of cloth someone else bought but whose treatment should earn more disdain from a stranger than adultery should earn from a spouse? I think its backwards and a serious flaw in priorities,,, He didn't buy a flag to burn in secret. He went to burn it in public. He did it to make people mad. Just like some people may commit adultery to make their spouse mad but usually its for something else. Yes if burning a bag makes people mad in a culture and you decide to burn a bag in that culture in public thats your own fault. I really dont care why he bought the flag, if he bought it with his money what he does with it is HIS business and gives noone else a right to assault him in any way |
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Freedom of speech IMO has been grossly misinterpreted. Disgracing the flag in any way should hold the same punishment as treason. its a PIECE OF CLOTH,,, good grief its amazing the tunnelvision of those who say one thing about others reactions to 'cultural' no nos while condoning violent reactions to their own 'cultural' no nos its really hypocritical for westerners to hold their idols(flags, etc,,) to such high esteem as to condone violent punishment for offenders while some of those same westerners will swear some muslims to be so evil for feeling the same way about their 'idols' |
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