Let me guesee. You live in East Texas, right?

Yes, I did. Are you going to call me a racist now?

So, Spidercmb I have noticed that you keep using the term "intellectual argument." Do you consider yourself an intellectual and do you believe you can win an intellectual argument?

By the way, would you tell me what your definition of an intellectual argument is exactly? I'm not sure I know what you mean by that.

Attention white people: If you really want to know if a town is predominately racists, ask some black people. White people rarely admit to being racist and some don't even realize they are.

Are you implying only white people are capable of being racist????

No, why would you assume that?

But I've met A LOT more racist white people that racist blacks.

Most blacks that appear "racist" are just pissed off at the white man.

I see you're in Toledo, Ohio. The Toledo African-American Bureau of Commerce seems to be doing good work there, but seems to draw quite a bit of criticism for promoting "black racism".

I have no idea if you have racist attitudes. Why don't you tell us?

Because you said to ask the black people if there is racism...

They would be the ones who would know.

I've met A LOT more racist white people that racist blacks.

Most blacks that appear "racist" are just pissed off at the white man for their racism and treatment of them.

I'm not an intellectual and I don't consider myself one.

I would say that there are two types of arguments: Emotional and Intellectual. An intellectual argument is where a topic is discussed logically and rationally by all involved or at least that's what it's supposed to be. It's actually a frequently used term, so I find the fact that it's new to you somewhat disturbing.

Toledo, Ohio is a festering hole of liberal policies. Our taxes go up every year, but they only pick up trash once a week and then only if it's in the correct garbage cans and directly next to the curb. Our potholes will easily pop tires and driving down some streets is a slalum. I don't know what the "Toledo African-American Bureau of Commerce" is or does, but it certainly sounds racist. I think any organization that caters to one race or excludes any race is racist.

Well, according to Jean, I wouldn't know if I was a racist or I would lie if I did, so my being white makes my word mud.

Sorry to hear that

I don't know why you think it is "new" to me. I just wanted to know what YOUR definition of an intellectual argument was. (I already know what mine is.)

So according to you, an intellectual argument is one that is not "emotional." So you would classify an argument with Spock on star Trec to be an intellectual argument while an argument with Captain Kirk might be a non-intellectual argument. (He always got so emotional.)

If so, then I don't understand why you said that you find it "disturbing" to think that the idea of an intellectual argument was new to me. (Its not, that was your misunderstanding.) But even if it was new to me, why would that "disturb" you? Or are you pretending to be emotional? (I am assuming that being disturbed is an emotion.)

You aren't allowed your own definition, that's not how words work. Words only have value if they have the same meaning to all people in the conversation.

Ok, so it isn't racism if you are just pissed off at the unfairness of it all. So, I am not racist if I am upset about the Affirmative Action?

whats the difference between "appearing" racist and "being" racist?

It would be nice if everyone had the same understanding of every word that existed, but that is just not the case.

That is why I wanted to know what you felt the meaning of an intellectual argument was.

And yes I am allowed to have my own definitions, understandings, interpretations etc.

If you assume that everyone thinks like you and understands words exactly like you do, you will not communicate very well with others.

That is why I asked. I don't assume that you think exactly like me.

How DARE YOU!!!! I'm going to report you to the moderators. I know what "communicate" means (because I have my own definition) and that's just SICK of you to say. I can't tell you how disgusted I am right now. SICK!!!!

The appearance of things is not necessarily the truth of the way things are.

Okay if you don't want to have a serious intelligent conversation that is your choice. Instead you want to be sarcastic.

People create languages by the way. Language belongs to the people.