Topic: Islam. Problem solvers or trouble makers in the U. S. and f
DiveBomber4's photo
Sat 01/01/11 08:34 PM






The Muslim belief is not even remotely close to doing much of anything in the United States.


maybe not now, but once it hits ten percent it will, just like in all the other countries they have invaded...


Even at 10% they wouldn't have much pull, they would have more than they do currently but it wouldn't be so extreme as Sharia Law getting posted up everywhere...and that is assuming that the entire possible 10% were even all voting and taking charge.

i was mainly talking about rioting and acting stupid, like they have been doing in France, England, Russia and India...


Rioting isn't really going to do anything. Everyone acts stupid so that is a null point.

i guess you have never been in a riot, huh... remember LA on the rodney king verdict? picture that all across the US


One only needs to look at when the cartoons of Mohhammed were published in Denmark.....and that was just over a cartoon!!

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Sun 01/02/11 12:21 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 01/02/11 12:21 AM


There are way too many educated Sh**heads who feel that we have to be tolerant of everything just becasue. None of them ever read the Quaran or understand the message it presents. It is a religion of forceful subjugation. On top of that they by the very tenants of their own beliefs will do anything and everything to accomplish trodding down on all who do not follow their path. A peaceful Islamic is one who is too scared to speak up against the hypocrisy of their own religion.

I love asking female supporters of Islamic Tolerance if they can A) live like property and B) accept that their husbands can beat them under the terms of Sharia law. NOT ONE SINGLE ONE OF THEM WILL ANSWER YES OR NO!

The fact is that Islam will bring about a new Dark Ages and I bet there are a lot of people who would eagerly like to go back to a Feudal way of life. Frankly in Islamic dominated nations with a rare few that have reverted to a sort of Feudal way of life already.

Oh but how many Educated People see that?

So how educated are most of these idiots who support a faith without reading that faith's Bible first? My bet is at least 90% of them never even seen a Quaran let alone read it. There are too many stupid sh**heads in the free world who forgot the only way to preserve peace is vigilance and likewise being ready to make war to protect our peace from those who would take that away from us.


Islam will bring a new dark ages? What? Did you know that the arabic/Islamic culture provided us with numerals (123, etc.) and mathematics as we know it? Prior to this, mathematics had been done with Roman numerals, making it cumbersome and primitive. The Islamic culture also gave us the concept of zero. It had hitherto been unheard of in Europe. While Europe languished during the dark ages, the arabic world was making large strides in sciences, art, literature, etc.

The barbarous strain of Islam which gets all the press attention in the West is relatively new in history.




also interesting is that when I researched the GLOBAL PEACE INDEX

http://www.gfmag.com/tools/global-database/ne-data/10293-the-most-peaceful-countries-in-the-world.html


ALTHOUGH Iraq was ranked last, the USA was ranked 85, AFTER several other predominately muslim countries,,,,lol (including Bahrain, Indonesia, and Khuwait)

dont believe the hype, people bring use religion to justify their violence, but religion doesnt create the violence

DiveBomber4's photo
Sun 01/02/11 12:24 AM
According to the left it does.

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Sun 01/02/11 06:14 AM


i got my figures from the U.S. Bureau of Sensus.


Nope, try again.

How Many U.S. Muslims?
By: Daniel Pipes
Date: 29 October 2001
Source: New York Post
URL: http://www.danielpipes.org/article/76
How many Muslims live in the United States?

Until now, basically, no one has had any idea. By law, the U.S. Census cannot ask questions about religion. There are also plenty of other difficulties in coming up with a number, starting with the problem of defining who is a Muslim: Does one include non-standard believers like Louis Farrakhan and the Druze?

Uncertainty has generated some wildly divergent numbers. A large 1990 demographic survey counted 1.3 million Muslims. In 1998, a Pakistani newspaper put the number at 12 million. Even the usually authoritative Yearbook of American and Canadian Churches found 527,000 American Muslims in 1996 and six times as many (3.3 million) in 1998.

Needing some kind of consensus figure, Muslim organizations came up with a self-acknowledged "guestimation" of 6 million, which this year they decided to raise to 7 million.
There are estimates from 2.8 to 15 million Muslims in the U. S.
Being that there is no government department that deals with the census by religious/philosophical groups/individuals, there are no officlal records, even though we suspect strongly that the U.S.Governnment does have more exacting knowledge about this controversial religious group than any other religious group, by numbers in the U. S.

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Sun 01/02/11 06:18 AM

So does that mean I get winter shelter in your garage in OP

you can have winter shelter here with me in Mexico sweetheart.

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Sun 01/02/11 10:42 AM






The Muslim belief is not even remotely close to doing much of anything in the United States.


maybe not now, but once it hits ten percent it will, just like in all the other countries they have invaded...


Even at 10% they wouldn't have much pull, they would have more than they do currently but it wouldn't be so extreme as Sharia Law getting posted up everywhere...and that is assuming that the entire possible 10% were even all voting and taking charge.

i was mainly talking about rioting and acting stupid, like they have been doing in France, England, Russia and India...


Rioting isn't really going to do anything. Everyone acts stupid so that is a null point.

i guess you have never been in a riot, huh... remember LA on the rodney king verdict? picture that all across the US


Except the big difference would be that Islamics would be getting lynched, shot, and mosques burned. Here once a national riot like that started it would be like a Civil War more than a riot and I think people advocating Islamic rights at that point would likewise be put down (executed) as sympathizers. I also feel that if the military was called in to stop it that would lead to either them taking sides splitting the unity of our forces between those who support the non constitutional government and those who oppose Islam and I feel that in the Military those who oppose Islam would win out so then that riot would become a full blown cultural genocide here.

Since Islam is about Cultural Genocide I would turn my back on them and let them die!

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Sun 01/02/11 10:59 AM
rides through on horseback swinging a lantern...

"The Islamists are coming, The Islamists are coming!"

Bestinshow's photo
Sun 01/02/11 11:03 AM
Edited by Bestinshow on Sun 01/02/11 11:06 AM
I think all religions are rubbish.



On Punishing ‘Immorality’

Leviticus 20:9
If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.
Deuteronomy 22:20-1 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.
Exodus 35:2
For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.
On Destroying Other People

Deuteronomy 7:1-2 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.
20:10-17 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. . . . This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.
On the Evil of Biblical Law

Ezekiel 20:25-26 I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by; I let them become defiled through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.
On Slavery & Subjugation of Women

Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Exodus 21:20-21 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.
1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men.
2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.
Leviticus 25:44-45
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property
http://home.earthlink.net/~owl233/biblequotes.htm

willing2's photo
Sun 01/02/11 04:44 PM
Count and don't discount Eugene and his Nation of Islam.

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Sun 01/02/11 05:23 PM

The Muslim belief is not even remotely close to doing much of anything in the United States.

until they see an opportunity.

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Sun 01/02/11 05:25 PM

I think all religions are rubbish.



On Punishing ‘Immorality’

Leviticus 20:9
If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.
Deuteronomy 22:20-1 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.
Exodus 35:2
For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.
On Destroying Other People

Deuteronomy 7:1-2 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.
20:10-17 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. . . . This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.
On the Evil of Biblical Law

Ezekiel 20:25-26 I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by; I let them become defiled through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.
On Slavery & Subjugation of Women

Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Exodus 21:20-21 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.
1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men.
2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.
Leviticus 25:44-45
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property
http://home.earthlink.net/~owl233/biblequotes.htm

i find that Andy Rooney is more reliable information.

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 01/02/11 05:32 PM


The Muslim belief is not even remotely close to doing much of anything in the United States.

until they see an opportunity.


Explain, please.

willing2's photo
Sun 01/02/11 06:07 PM
Who is it that will "stand with the Muslims"?

msharmony's photo
Sun 01/02/11 07:48 PM

Who is it that will "stand with the Muslims"?



I will stand with anyone who is law abiding and fair, regardless of their religious affiliation

mightymoe's photo
Sun 01/02/11 08:46 PM


Who is it that will "stand with the Muslims"?



I will stand with anyone who is law abiding and fair, regardless of their religious affiliation

well, if they are rioting, that is not exactly law abiding now is it?

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Sun 01/02/11 09:00 PM



The Muslim belief is not even remotely close to doing much of anything in the United States.

until they see an opportunity.


Explain, please.

Their BOOK tells them to act like they are friends with infidels until they get an opportunity to either convert them or cause harm to them, plysically.

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 01/02/11 09:08 PM




The Muslim belief is not even remotely close to doing much of anything in the United States.

until they see an opportunity.


Explain, please.

Their BOOK tells them to act like they are friends with infidels until they get an opportunity to either convert them or cause harm to them, plysically.


Again...explain.

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 01/02/11 09:15 PM





The Muslim belief is not even remotely close to doing much of anything in the United States.

until they see an opportunity.


Explain, please.

Their BOOK tells them to act like they are friends with infidels until they get an opportunity to either convert them or cause harm to them, plysically.


Again...explain.




Not to be cynical but have you even read a Quaran? Do it. It is ALL spelled out in their Bible! I read it and was horrified to see what it says! it DOES seriously spell out how to conduct yourself in the presence of infidels like you and me! Makes me want to gut a pig in a mosque to defile the ground!

mightymoe's photo
Sun 01/02/11 10:22 PM






The Muslim belief is not even remotely close to doing much of anything in the United States.

until they see an opportunity.


Explain, please.

Their BOOK tells them to act like they are friends with infidels until they get an opportunity to either convert them or cause harm to them, plysically.


Again...explain.




Not to be cynical but have you even read a Quaran? Do it. It is ALL spelled out in their Bible! I read it and was horrified to see what it says! it DOES seriously spell out how to conduct yourself in the presence of infidels like you and me! Makes me want to gut a pig in a mosque to defile the ground!


and thats not the worst part, it's their elders writing edicts about anything they want, and their followers just blindly do it...

msharmony's photo
Sun 01/02/11 10:25 PM



Who is it that will "stand with the Muslims"?



I will stand with anyone who is law abiding and fair, regardless of their religious affiliation

well, if they are rioting, that is not exactly law abiding now is it?



what has that to do with being asked if one will stand with muslims?