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Menachim Begin took part in terrorist acts in the 1940s, including the attack on the King David Hotel which killed 91 people.
Begin ordered ... the destruction of the central British administrative offices in the King David Hotel. — Jewish Virtual Library In 1946, Jewish terrorists agitating for their own state in British-occupied Palestine blew up Jerusalem's King David Hotel, killing 91. Two years later, an independent Israel was established. "There were a lot of innocent British women and children killed there," says Hanson. "But in the end, it worked; the British left." |
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•Yitzhak Shamir was the operations commander, and later leader, of the Stern Gang, a terrorist group which was responsible for a string of political assassinations.
Shamir was a member of two militant Jewish underground organizations which ... were active in counter-terrorist acts against Arabs as well as sabotage against the British. — The Department for Jewish Zionist Education (Note the use of the term counter-terrorist to disguise terrorism.) In post-war British-mandated Palestine the words Stern Gang equalled "terrorism" — assassinations, bombings, the full works. ... Yitzhak Shamir had been the gang's operations commander. ... By appointing Shamir Foreign Minister, Prime Minister Menachem Begin had selected the organiser of two famous assassinations: the killing of Lord Moyne, the British Minister representative in the Middle East, in 1944, and that of Count Folke Bernadotte, the UN's special Mediator on Palestine, in 1948. — Stern Gang: what does 'mekhabbel' mean? During the fight for Jewish statehood, extremist military groups sometimes resorted to the use of terrorist tactics. One such instance occurred in 1948 when members of the Jewish underground organization LEHI (Fighters for the Freedom of Israel) killed UN Peace Mediator Count Folke Bernadotte to protest his diplomatic efforts to modify the Palestine partition plan. ... Yitzhak Shamir reputedly played a role in planning the assassination; however, he was never tried and went on to become Prime Minister of Israel. — The Assassination of Count Bernadotte |
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Ariel Sharon initiated the Sabra-Shatila massacre in which between 1000 and 3000 people (mostly Palestinians) were murdered, and now leads a terrorist campaign against all Palestinians living in the occupied territories of the West Bank.
As commander of the notorious Unit 101, Sharon led attacks on Palestinian villages in which women and children were killed. The massacre in the West Bank village of Qibya, on October 14, 1953, was perhaps the most notorious. His troops blew up 45 houses and 69 Palestinian civilians — about half of them women and children — were killed. — The Electronic Intifada No one has ever been tried for the massacre, but an official Israeli commission of inquiry found that Israel's defense minister at the time, Ariel Sharon, "bears personal responsibility" as well as "indirect responsibility." It was Sharon, after all, who had ordered the Israel Defense Forces to invade Beirut and surround the camps. ... Like Pinochet and other war criminals, Sharon and his Phalangist underlings should be brought to book; if they can successfully evade justice, then it will give heart to killers everywhere. — Marking a Massacre, The Nation Sharon's preemptive logic undercuts all form of dialogue and negotiations. Its rule of thumb is violence, and then more violence, whether it manifests itself as a military attack or as an aggressive act of dispossession. So while it may seem that the bloody routine is in some way preordained, it is actually Sharon's preemptive zeal alongside Hamas' and Islamic Jihad's fundamentalism that has clouded the horizon and concealed, as Arendt might have said, the possibility for a better future. — Neve Gordon, Sharon's Preemptive Zeal, Counterpunch, 2003-09-24 |
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Grouping all Muslims together and labeling them terrorist is a true sign of bigotry and ignorance. I have a few Muslim friends and they are very hard working, honest, and law abiding people. Some of them are Palestinian and some of the most decent people I've ever met. Their reason for coming to America was the same as many immigrants who came here. A better chance at happiness. They are now US Citizens and I'm proud to call them my friends. In case you haven't noticed Islamic terrorism is a World wide problem and is only getting worse.You have at least 300 million Muslims in the Middle east who live in Sharia law countries with a huge majority(if not all of them)wanting death and destruction to the United states and Israel. There is over 1.5 billion Muslims out there how many of them are demanding the end to Islamic terrorism?Where is the million man march for peace?I never see Muslims at these War protests unless they are holding signs demanding America and Israel be destroyed. Face it they don't want the killings to stop they want the killings to continue.That is why the only people we can count on to end this violence and terror is non Islamic countries. |
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Ariel Sharon initiated the Sabra-Shatila massacre in which between 1000 and 3000 people (mostly Palestinians) were murdered, and now leads a terrorist campaign against all Palestinians living in the occupied territories of the West Bank. As commander of the notorious Unit 101, Sharon led attacks on Palestinian villages in which women and children were killed. The massacre in the West Bank village of Qibya, on October 14, 1953, was perhaps the most notorious. His troops blew up 45 houses and 69 Palestinian civilians — about half of them women and children — were killed. — The Electronic Intifada No one has ever been tried for the massacre, but an official Israeli commission of inquiry found that Israel's defense minister at the time, Ariel Sharon, "bears personal responsibility" as well as "indirect responsibility." It was Sharon, after all, who had ordered the Israel Defense Forces to invade Beirut and surround the camps. ... Like Pinochet and other war criminals, Sharon and his Phalangist underlings should be brought to book; if they can successfully evade justice, then it will give heart to killers everywhere. — Marking a Massacre, The Nation Sharon's preemptive logic undercuts all form of dialogue and negotiations. Its rule of thumb is violence, and then more violence, whether it manifests itself as a military attack or as an aggressive act of dispossession. So while it may seem that the bloody routine is in some way preordained, it is actually Sharon's preemptive zeal alongside Hamas' and Islamic Jihad's fundamentalism that has clouded the horizon and concealed, as Arendt might have said, the possibility for a better future. — Neve Gordon, Sharon's Preemptive Zeal, Counterpunch, 2003-09-24 maybe their walkers are straped? |
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Grouping all Muslims together and labeling them terrorist is a true sign of bigotry and ignorance. I have a few Muslim friends and they are very hard working, honest, and law abiding people. Some of them are Palestinian and some of the most decent people I've ever met. Their reason for coming to America was the same as many immigrants who came here. A better chance at happiness. They are now US Citizens and I'm proud to call them my friends. In case you haven't noticed Islamic terrorism is a World wide problem and is only getting worse.You have at least 300 million Muslims in the Middle east who live in Sharia law countries with a huge majority(if not all of them)wanting death and destruction to the United states and Israel. There is over 1.5 billion Muslims out there how many of them are demanding the end to Islamic terrorism?Where is the million man march for peace?I never see Muslims at these War protests unless they are holding signs demanding America and Israel be destroyed. Face it they don't want the killings to stop they want the killings to continue.That is why the only people we can count on to end this violence and terror is non Islamic countries. You exaggerate tremendously. |
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Ariel Sharon initiated the Sabra-Shatila massacre in which between 1000 and 3000 people (mostly Palestinians) were murdered, and now leads a terrorist campaign against all Palestinians living in the occupied territories of the West Bank. As commander of the notorious Unit 101, Sharon led attacks on Palestinian villages in which women and children were killed. The massacre in the West Bank village of Qibya, on October 14, 1953, was perhaps the most notorious. His troops blew up 45 houses and 69 Palestinian civilians — about half of them women and children — were killed. — The Electronic Intifada No one has ever been tried for the massacre, but an official Israeli commission of inquiry found that Israel's defense minister at the time, Ariel Sharon, "bears personal responsibility" as well as "indirect responsibility." It was Sharon, after all, who had ordered the Israel Defense Forces to invade Beirut and surround the camps. ... Like Pinochet and other war criminals, Sharon and his Phalangist underlings should be brought to book; if they can successfully evade justice, then it will give heart to killers everywhere. — Marking a Massacre, The Nation Sharon's preemptive logic undercuts all form of dialogue and negotiations. Its rule of thumb is violence, and then more violence, whether it manifests itself as a military attack or as an aggressive act of dispossession. So while it may seem that the bloody routine is in some way preordained, it is actually Sharon's preemptive zeal alongside Hamas' and Islamic Jihad's fundamentalism that has clouded the horizon and concealed, as Aren't might have said, the possibility for a better future. — Neve Gordon, Sharon's Preemptive Zeal, Counterpunch, 2003-09-24 maybe their walkers are strapped? The point is that they are terrorist. Once was always is. Israel was not a State. These men, although each later became PM of Israel, killed civilians and diplomats in the hopes of gaining Statehood. Is that not what some Palestinians and other Muslims doing? |
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Since terrorism is actually a form of warfare how about we discuss our terroristic acts on others?
Fanatism is the problem here not a certain religion. Although I believe religions are trouble in general. The Republicans are the anti freedom, anti American party and will destroy all we love about this country. |
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Ariel Sharon initiated the Sabra-Shatila massacre in which between 1000 and 3000 people (mostly Palestinians) were murdered, and now leads a terrorist campaign against all Palestinians living in the occupied territories of the West Bank. As commander of the notorious Unit 101, Sharon led attacks on Palestinian villages in which women and children were killed. The massacre in the West Bank village of Qibya, on October 14, 1953, was perhaps the most notorious. His troops blew up 45 houses and 69 Palestinian civilians — about half of them women and children — were killed. — The Electronic Intifada No one has ever been tried for the massacre, but an official Israeli commission of inquiry found that Israel's defense minister at the time, Ariel Sharon, "bears personal responsibility" as well as "indirect responsibility." It was Sharon, after all, who had ordered the Israel Defense Forces to invade Beirut and surround the camps. ... Like Pinochet and other war criminals, Sharon and his Phalangist underlings should be brought to book; if they can successfully evade justice, then it will give heart to killers everywhere. — Marking a Massacre, The Nation Sharon's preemptive logic undercuts all form of dialogue and negotiations. Its rule of thumb is violence, and then more violence, whether it manifests itself as a military attack or as an aggressive act of dispossession. So while it may seem that the bloody routine is in some way preordained, it is actually Sharon's preemptive zeal alongside Hamas' and Islamic Jihad's fundamentalism that has clouded the horizon and concealed, as Aren't might have said, the possibility for a better future. — Neve Gordon, Sharon's Preemptive Zeal, Counterpunch, 2003-09-24 maybe their walkers are strapped? The point is that they are terrorist. Once was always is. Israel was not a State. These men although each later became PM of Israel killed civilians and diplomats in the hopes of gaining Statehood. Is that not what some Palestinians and other Muslims doing? |
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Since terrorism is actually a form of warfare how about we discuss our terroristic acts on others? Fanatism is the problem here not a certain religion. Although I believe religions are trouble in general. The Republicans are the anti freedom, anti American party and will destroy all we love about this country. you and fanta should talk.... yall are a match made in democracy... |
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In the assassination of Lord Moyne. They killed to get the whole nine yards. They weren't to be satisfied with a partition of any kind. There was to be no sharing and they are still that way.
Therefore I say they are a Terrorist State ruled by terrorists. Just because the US supports their terror and calls it something else, does not mean they aren't terrorists. 90% of the problems in the ME are caused by The Zionist movement and our one-sided support for Israel. |
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Ariel Sharon initiated the Sabra-Shatila massacre in which between 1000 and 3000 people (mostly Palestinians) were murdered, and now leads a terrorist campaign against all Palestinians living in the occupied territories of the West Bank. As commander of the notorious Unit 101, Sharon led attacks on Palestinian villages in which women and children were killed. The massacre in the West Bank village of Qibya, on October 14, 1953, was perhaps the most notorious. His troops blew up 45 houses and 69 Palestinian civilians — about half of them women and children — were killed. — The Electronic Intifada No one has ever been tried for the massacre, but an official Israeli commission of inquiry found that Israel's defense minister at the time, Ariel Sharon, "bears personal responsibility" as well as "indirect responsibility." It was Sharon, after all, who had ordered the Israel Defense Forces to invade Beirut and surround the camps. ... Like Pinochet and other war criminals, Sharon and his Phalangist underlings should be brought to book; if they can successfully evade justice, then it will give heart to killers everywhere. — Marking a Massacre, The Nation Sharon's preemptive logic undercuts all form of dialogue and negotiations. Its rule of thumb is violence, and then more violence, whether it manifests itself as a military attack or as an aggressive act of dispossession. So while it may seem that the bloody routine is in some way preordained, it is actually Sharon's preemptive zeal alongside Hamas' and Islamic Jihad's fundamentalism that has clouded the horizon and concealed, as Arendt might have said, the possibility for a better future. — Neve Gordon, Sharon's Preemptive Zeal, Counterpunch, 2003-09-24 Your article failed to mention they were in the middle of a War.As usual these events nearly always go back to the Palestinians wanting Israel destroyed and starting conflicts.This also happened 28 years ago.What this has to do with modern day Israelite terrorist you tell me. |
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Fanta is great.
 But we are not the match you think, are we Fanta?
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In the assassination of Lord Moyne. They killed to get the whole nine yards. They weren't to be satisfied with a partition of any kind. There was to be no sharing and they are still that way. Therefore I say they are a Terrorist State ruled by terrorists. Just because the US supports their terror and calls it something else, does not mean they aren't terrorists. 90% of the problems in the ME are caused by The Zionist movement and our one-sided support for Israel. they should get support... they are like a mouse surrounded by snakes... |
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Fanta46
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Mon 01/03/11 10:02 PM
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Ariel Sharon initiated the Sabra-Shatila massacre in which between 1000 and 3000 people (mostly Palestinians) were murdered, and now leads a terrorist campaign against all Palestinians living in the occupied territories of the West Bank. As commander of the notorious Unit 101, Sharon led attacks on Palestinian villages in which women and children were killed. The massacre in the West Bank village of Qibya, on October 14, 1953, was perhaps the most notorious. His troops blew up 45 houses and 69 Palestinian civilians — about half of them women and children — were killed. — The Electronic Intifada No one has ever been tried for the massacre, but an official Israeli commission of inquiry found that Israel's defense minister at the time, Ariel Sharon, "bears personal responsibility" as well as "indirect responsibility." It was Sharon, after all, who had ordered the Israel Defense Forces to invade Beirut and surround the camps. ... Like Pinochet and other war criminals, Sharon and his Phalangist underlings should be brought to book; if they can successfully evade justice, then it will give heart to killers everywhere. — Marking a Massacre, The Nation Sharon's preemptive logic undercuts all form of dialogue and negotiations. Its rule of thumb is violence, and then more violence, whether it manifests itself as a military attack or as an aggressive act of dispossession. So while it may seem that the bloody routine is in some way preordained, it is actually Sharon's preemptive zeal alongside Hamas' and Islamic Jihad's fundamentalism that has clouded the horizon and concealed, as Aren't might have said, the possibility for a better future. — Neve Gordon, Sharon's Preemptive Zeal, Counterpunch, 2003-09-24 maybe their walkers are strapped? The point is that they are terrorist. Once was always is. Israel was not a State. These men although each later became PM of Israel killed civilians and diplomats in the hopes of gaining Statehood. Is that not what some Palestinians and other Muslims doing? The Jews kill because they think they are the God's chosen people. Even though they didn't live in Palestine for thousands of years, except in a small number, before the west started moving them back (Zionist movement), they think it is their birth right. God told them so! They think they are right and justified, just as the Palestinians and other Muslims think what they do is justified and right. |
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Ariel Sharon initiated the Sabra-Shatila massacre in which between 1000 and 3000 people (mostly Palestinians) were murdered, and now leads a terrorist campaign against all Palestinians living in the occupied territories of the West Bank. As commander of the notorious Unit 101, Sharon led attacks on Palestinian villages in which women and children were killed. The massacre in the West Bank village of Qibya, on October 14, 1953, was perhaps the most notorious. His troops blew up 45 houses and 69 Palestinian civilians — about half of them women and children — were killed. — The Electronic Intifada No one has ever been tried for the massacre, but an official Israeli commission of inquiry found that Israel's defense minister at the time, Ariel Sharon, "bears personal responsibility" as well as "indirect responsibility." It was Sharon, after all, who had ordered the Israel Defense Forces to invade Beirut and surround the camps. ... Like Pinochet and other war criminals, Sharon and his Phalangist underlings should be brought to book; if they can successfully evade justice, then it will give heart to killers everywhere. — Marking a Massacre, The Nation Sharon's preemptive logic undercuts all form of dialogue and negotiations. Its rule of thumb is violence, and then more violence, whether it manifests itself as a military attack or as an aggressive act of dispossession. So while it may seem that the bloody routine is in some way preordained, it is actually Sharon's preemptive zeal alongside Hamas' and Islamic Jihad's fundamentalism that has clouded the horizon and concealed, as Aren't might have said, the possibility for a better future. — Neve Gordon, Sharon's Preemptive Zeal, Counterpunch, 2003-09-24 maybe their walkers are strapped? The point is that they are terrorist. Once was always is. Israel was not a State. These men although each later became PM of Israel killed civilians and diplomats in the hopes of gaining Statehood. Is that not what some Palestinians and other Muslims doing? The Jews kill because they think they are the God's chosen people. Even though they didn't even live in Palestine for thousands of years, except in a small number before the west started moving them back (Zionist movement), they think it is their birth right. God told them so! They think they are right and justified, just as the Palestinians and other Muslims think what they do is justified and right. didn't bush realign the gaza strip area in favor of the muslims? |
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Fanta is great. But we are not the match you think, are we Fanta? No, we disagree often. Would the KKK, a christian organization, be considered terrorists? And what about the Skinheads? |
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Fanta is great. But we are not the match you think, are we Fanta? No, we disagree often. Would the KKK, a christian organization, be considered terrorists? And what about the Skinheads? You think the KKK is a Christian organization?  Or the skinheads? I missed the part in the bible where Jews are scum,where we should lynch people,and how we should set crosses on fire. I would hardly call the KKK or the Skinheads terrorist since I am not aware of any terrorist attacks by them.I would consider them a hate group. |
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Mon 01/03/11 09:59 PM
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Ariel Sharon initiated the Sabra-Shatila massacre in which between 1000 and 3000 people (mostly Palestinians) were murdered, and now leads a terrorist campaign against all Palestinians living in the occupied territories of the West Bank. As commander of the notorious Unit 101, Sharon led attacks on Palestinian villages in which women and children were killed. The massacre in the West Bank village of Qibya, on October 14, 1953, was perhaps the most notorious. His troops blew up 45 houses and 69 Palestinian civilians — about half of them women and children — were killed. — The Electronic Intifada No one has ever been tried for the massacre, but an official Israeli commission of inquiry found that Israel's defense minister at the time, Ariel Sharon, "bears personal responsibility" as well as "indirect responsibility." It was Sharon, after all, who had ordered the Israel Defense Forces to invade Beirut and surround the camps. ... Like Pinochet and other war criminals, Sharon and his Phalangist underlings should be brought to book; if they can successfully evade justice, then it will give heart to killers everywhere. — Marking a Massacre, The Nation Sharon's preemptive logic undercuts all form of dialogue and negotiations. Its rule of thumb is violence, and then more violence, whether it manifests itself as a military attack or as an aggressive act of dispossession. So while it may seem that the bloody routine is in some way preordained, it is actually Sharon's preemptive zeal alongside Hamas' and Islamic Jihad's fundamentalism that has clouded the horizon and concealed, as Arendt might have said, the possibility for a better future. — Neve Gordon, Sharon's Preemptive Zeal, Counterpunch, 2003-09-24 Your article failed to mention they were in the middle of a War.As usual these events nearly always go back to the Palestinians wanting Israel destroyed and starting conflicts.This also happened 28 years ago.What this has to do with modern day Israelite terrorist you tell me. NO WAR! Israel didn't exist except in the minds of these men. The land was called Palestine and was ruled by the British. The UN had mandated a partition for when the British withdrew. They, UN, sent Lord Moyne to Palestine to negotiate a deal. The UN was going to give 70% of the land to 30% of the population. This was the UN plan to be Israel. They were going to give 70% of the pop. only 30% of the land. This would be Palestine. The Israelis wanted it all and assassinated the UN diplomat, Lord Moyne. |
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In the assassination of Lord Moyne. They killed to get the whole nine yards. They weren't to be satisfied with a partition of any kind. There was to be no sharing and they are still that way. Therefore I say they are a Terrorist State ruled by terrorists. Just because the US supports their terror and calls it something else, does not mean they aren't terrorists. 90% of the problems in the ME are caused by The Zionist movement and our one-sided support for Israel. Hmmmmmm sounds like something Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would say.I think if all the Muslims left this world we would have world peace.I think if all the Jews left this world we would have more Islamic terrorism. |
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