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It's not a quote from the bible. Yes the bible may state it, if the bible states it and you use it...then it's a quote but it's only quoted from the bible if verses are included. once you include God into the equation it makes reference to religious scripture And we aren't "required" to believe anything. Someone can NOT be "required" to believe something...Believing is a choice done by YOU, it's not something that can be forced upon someone. It's a decision. as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God No it is not a requirement. It's either 7th day adventists or pentecostals don't believe Jesus was the son of God. Heck the baptists believe that Jesus was just a prophet. |
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No it is not a requirement. It's either 7th day adventists or pentecostals don't believe Jesus was the son of God. Heck the baptists believe that Jesus was just a prophet. Well if that's the case, then my belief that the Old Testament is nothing more than Zeus-like fables, and that Jesus was actually a Mahayana Buddhist who taught against the moral values of the Torah, is just as valid as any Christian view. Of, course, I already knew that. 
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No it is not a requirement. It's either 7th day adventists or pentecostals don't believe Jesus was the son of God. Heck the baptists believe that Jesus was just a prophet. Well if that's the case, then my belief that the Old Testament is nothing more than Zeus-like fables, and that Jesus was actually a Mahayana Buddhist who taught against the moral values of the Torah, is just as valid as any Christian view. Of, course, I already knew that.
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It's not a quote from the bible. Yes the bible may state it, if the bible states it and you use it...then it's a quote but it's only quoted from the bible if verses are included. once you include God into the equation it makes reference to religious scripture And we aren't "required" to believe anything. Someone can NOT be "required" to believe something...Believing is a choice done by YOU, it's not something that can be forced upon someone. It's a decision. as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God No it is not a requirement. It's either 7th day adventists or pentecostals don't believe Jesus was the son of God. Heck the baptists believe that Jesus was just a prophet. I didn't ask if it is a requirement to believe that Jesus was the son of God ...I asked as a Christian is it a requirement to believe that Jesus is the only way to God |
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It's not a quote from the bible. Yes the bible may state it, if the bible states it and you use it...then it's a quote but it's only quoted from the bible if verses are included. once you include God into the equation it makes reference to religious scripture And we aren't "required" to believe anything. Someone can NOT be "required" to believe something...Believing is a choice done by YOU, it's not something that can be forced upon someone. It's a decision. as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God No it is not a requirement. It's either 7th day adventists or pentecostals don't believe Jesus was the son of God. Heck the baptists believe that Jesus was just a prophet. I didn't ask if it is a requirement to believe that Jesus was the son of God ...I asked as a Christian is it a requirement to believe that Jesus is the only way to God Of course. Jesus is the sacrificial lamb, he is the path, the truth, the way to our father. |
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It's not a quote from the bible. Yes the bible may state it, if the bible states it and you use it...then it's a quote but it's only quoted from the bible if verses are included. once you include God into the equation it makes reference to religious scripture And we aren't "required" to believe anything. Someone can NOT be "required" to believe something...Believing is a choice done by YOU, it's not something that can be forced upon someone. It's a decision. as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God No it is not a requirement. It's either 7th day adventists or pentecostals don't believe Jesus was the son of God. Heck the baptists believe that Jesus was just a prophet. I didn't ask if it is a requirement to believe that Jesus was the son of God ...I asked as a Christian is it a requirement to believe that Jesus is the only way to God Of course. Jesus is the sacrificial lamb, he is the path, the truth, the way to our father. which is why to be a Christian...you are "required" to say that you believe that Jesus is the only way to God even if you don't believe it |
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It's not a quote from the bible. Yes the bible may state it, if the bible states it and you use it...then it's a quote but it's only quoted from the bible if verses are included. once you include God into the equation it makes reference to religious scripture And we aren't "required" to believe anything. Someone can NOT be "required" to believe something...Believing is a choice done by YOU, it's not something that can be forced upon someone. It's a decision. as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God No it is not a requirement. It's either 7th day adventists or pentecostals don't believe Jesus was the son of God. Heck the baptists believe that Jesus was just a prophet. I didn't ask if it is a requirement to believe that Jesus was the son of God ...I asked as a Christian is it a requirement to believe that Jesus is the only way to God Of course. Jesus is the sacrificial lamb, he is the path, the truth, the way to our father. which is why to be a Christian...you are "required" to say that you believe that Jesus is the only way to God even if you don't believe it And I was pointing out no it's not to be specifically a Christian as their some denominations that do not believe Jesus to be the only begotten child of God. To get to heaven yes it is required to praise Jesus as the only begotten child of God. For Jesus is the way, the light, and the path to God. |
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It's not a quote from the bible. Yes the bible may state it, if the bible states it and you use it...then it's a quote but it's only quoted from the bible if verses are included. once you include God into the equation it makes reference to religious scripture And we aren't "required" to believe anything. Someone can NOT be "required" to believe something...Believing is a choice done by YOU, it's not something that can be forced upon someone. It's a decision. as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God No it is not a requirement. It's either 7th day adventists or pentecostals don't believe Jesus was the son of God. Heck the baptists believe that Jesus was just a prophet. I didn't ask if it is a requirement to believe that Jesus was the son of God ...I asked as a Christian is it a requirement to believe that Jesus is the only way to God Of course. Jesus is the sacrificial lamb, he is the path, the truth, the way to our father. which is why to be a Christian...you are "required" to say that you believe that Jesus is the only way to God even if you don't believe it Not to specifically be a "christian" no. As I've pointed out some denominations of Christianity do not believe Jesus to be the only begotten child of God. |
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It's not a quote from the bible. Yes the bible may state it, if the bible states it and you use it...then it's a quote but it's only quoted from the bible if verses are included. once you include God into the equation it makes reference to religious scripture And we aren't "required" to believe anything. Someone can NOT be "required" to believe something...Believing is a choice done by YOU, it's not something that can be forced upon someone. It's a decision. as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God No it is not a requirement. It's either 7th day adventists or pentecostals don't believe Jesus was the son of God. Heck the baptists believe that Jesus was just a prophet. I didn't ask if it is a requirement to believe that Jesus was the son of God ...I asked as a Christian is it a requirement to believe that Jesus is the only way to God Of course. Jesus is the sacrificial lamb, he is the path, the truth, the way to our father. which is why to be a Christian...you are "required" to say that you believe that Jesus is the only way to God even if you don't believe it And I was pointing out no it's not to be specifically a Christian as their some denominations that do not believe Jesus to be the only begotten child of God. To get to heaven yes it is required to praise Jesus as the only begotten child of God. For Jesus is the way, the light, and the path to God. why you keep trying to sneak in believing that Jesus is only the son ...because not all Christians believe that...due to Jesus speaking in parables and confusing believers is why there are so many different sects of Christianity some claim he is the son, some claim that he is God some claim that he was the son of gabriel the angel some say that he is only the Messiah but the bottom line is, one of the requirements to be a Christian is to say that you believe that Jesus is the only way to God even if you know it's not true is that right or wrong? |
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It's not a quote from the bible. Yes the bible may state it, if the bible states it and you use it...then it's a quote but it's only quoted from the bible if verses are included. once you include God into the equation it makes reference to religious scripture And we aren't "required" to believe anything. Someone can NOT be "required" to believe something...Believing is a choice done by YOU, it's not something that can be forced upon someone. It's a decision. as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God No it is not a requirement. It's either 7th day adventists or pentecostals don't believe Jesus was the son of God. Heck the baptists believe that Jesus was just a prophet. I didn't ask if it is a requirement to believe that Jesus was the son of God ...I asked as a Christian is it a requirement to believe that Jesus is the only way to God Of course. Jesus is the sacrificial lamb, he is the path, the truth, the way to our father. which is why to be a Christian...you are "required" to say that you believe that Jesus is the only way to God even if you don't believe it And I was pointing out no it's not to be specifically a Christian as their some denominations that do not believe Jesus to be the only begotten child of God. To get to heaven yes it is required to praise Jesus as the only begotten child of God. For Jesus is the way, the light, and the path to God. why you keep trying to sneak in believing that Jesus is only the son ...because not all Christians believe that...due to Jesus speaking in parables and confusing believers is why there are so many different sects of Christianity some claim he is the son, some claim that he is God some claim that he was the son of gabriel the angel some say that he is only the Messiah but the bottom line is, one of the requirements to be a Christian is to say that you believe that Jesus is the only way to God even if you know it's not true is that right or wrong? but the bottom line is, one of the requirements to be a Christian is to say that you believe that Jesus is the only way to God even if you know it's not true That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. |
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Let's have a discussion about all things spiritual and religious oriented HERE'S THE CATCH. No one is allowed to "quote" the bible or mention the bible after this post. Now - paraphrasing is ok - stating beliefs is ok - but nowhere in THIS thread should the bible come up. All other religious scripture or documents that are not included in the Christian Bible are allowed. Here's a suggestion for Christians - try reading the Book of Mormon - here's an on line version http://bookofmormononline.net/ and here's an example - It reads a lot like something that should be familiar. There may be quotes here that can be substituted for throught and words that simply don't come to mind without that other book. Lehites in Jerusalem and Arabia Lehi’s Visions and Prophesies ________________________________________ Lehi, a Jewish prophet living in Jerusalem, joins other prophets in warning the people of Jerusalem’s imminent destruction. [1 Nephi 1:4] Lehi pauses his preaching, and goes to pray to God in behalf of Jerusalem’s citizens. [1 Nephi 1:5] A pillar of fire ushers in a spectacular heavenly manifestation which leaves Lehi overwhelmed and shaken. [1 Nephi 1:6] Lehi runs home to recover from his experience. [1 Nephi 1:7] While lying on his bed, Lehi is enwrapped in a vision. [1 Nephi 1:8] Lehi sees God, angels, Jesus, and the Twelve Apostles. [1 Nephi 1:8–10] The Apostles give Lehi a book, which confirms Jerusalem’s future destruction and Babylonian occupation. [1 Nephi 1:11–13] Lehi praises the Lord. [1 Nephi 1:14–15] After the vision, Lehi goes back out and tells the citizens of the content of his vision. [1 Nephi 1:18] The people do not accept Lehi, especially not his call to repentance; they set out to kill him. [1 Nephi 1:19–20] In the mean time - here are some thoughts on spirit beings. to my understanding angels are spirits, ghosts of dead humans are spirits and there are spirits called poltergeists and there are demon spirits. So where did all these spirits come from - are they of one species or many? If you believe in God did he create the spirit first and then the body or the body and then the spirit. AND can a dead human's spirit become a Demon spirit? OH AND NO FAIR ASKING SOMEONE TO PROVIDE PROOF OF A BELIEF IF THE ANSWER REQUIRES USING "The Book"... The BOOK is one of the worse things ever written, all of them, regardless of brand of religion they keep on screwing up and messing with people's minds. it's crazy. love and live and forgive and live some more without being pissed off at anybody for any reason. That's MY BOOK |
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It's not a quote from the bible. Yes the bible may state it, if the bible states it and you use it...then it's a quote but it's only quoted from the bible if verses are included. once you include God into the equation it makes reference to religious scripture And we aren't "required" to believe anything. Someone can NOT be "required" to believe something...Believing is a choice done by YOU, it's not something that can be forced upon someone. It's a decision. as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God as a Christan are you require to believe that Jesus is the only way to God No it is not a requirement. It's either 7th day adventists or pentecostals don't believe Jesus was the son of God. Heck the baptists believe that Jesus was just a prophet. I didn't ask if it is a requirement to believe that Jesus was the son of God ...I asked as a Christian is it a requirement to believe that Jesus is the only way to God If you can prove that, it doesn't require belief. If you can't prove it, please specify it's only a belief, not a fact. If it's a fact, prove it without using your BIBLE REFERENCE BOOK, and that's all it is. A source of writings put together on a fling due to the insistence of King James. A hoax is there ever was one. My belief. |
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More and more people are finally realizing that these books about God, without God having anything to do with them, screw up more than they fix. Their purpose is to solidify somebody's belief system and is used to fortify their positions, whatever they are. All BOOKS about God are that way. God wrote nothing. He's too intelligent.
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