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Topic: The NO BIBLE ALLOWED Thread can you handle it?
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Mon 01/03/11 08:00 AM



Yes I hear spirits everyday. When a person talks to you that is what controls the talking. The spirit. That's what controls our every action. That's why when a person is a nice person, they say he's in good spirits.


Cowboy...if the spirit controls what a person say and their actions.....wouldn't that mean that the person is a Zombie?


No my friend. You are your spirit. This physical body we have is merely something to contain that spirit. Your body is the temple of God where your spirit lives.


"your body is a temple of God" is quoting from the bible...

so can you try again to explain why a spirit control you without using quotes about God or things in the bible

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Mon 01/03/11 08:01 AM






Again we don't worship the bible.


Then why is it called "The Holy Bible"? .....can you discuss why it is without making reference to anything in the bible?


It's called the holy bible because the bible is the sacred writings of the Christian religion. The information it contains is holy. Again the bible is just that a book, it's paper. It will de-solve and be destroyed with age and time. It's the knowledge it contains that makes it holy.


Cowboy.....remember you were supposed to explain why the bible is holy without making any reference to what is contain in it....especially if you claim that it's just a book

so can you try again to explain why a simple book is consider to be Holy?


I didn't make reference to anything in the bible in particular. If you're asking why the bible is called the Holy bible without using any form of reference to what's in the bible. It's impossible to describe something without using the attributes that it has.


Besides.. "Now - paraphrasing is ok - stating beliefs is ok..."


"Parrot-phrasing" is still quoting from the Bible

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Mon 01/03/11 08:08 AM

If you're asking why the bible is called the Holy bible without using any form of reference to what's in the bible. It's impossible to describe something without using the attributes that it has.


you said that it could be done...you said the bible was only a book ....and that what's in the book is what makes it holy....

so going by your theory if those same words are used in a porn video therefore is the porn video considered to be holy?

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Mon 01/03/11 08:18 AM







Again we don't worship the bible.


Then why is it called "The Holy Bible"? .....can you discuss why it is without making reference to anything in the bible?


It's called the holy bible because the bible is the sacred writings of the Christian religion. The information it contains is holy. Again the bible is just that a book, it's paper. It will de-solve and be destroyed with age and time. It's the knowledge it contains that makes it holy.


Cowboy.....remember you were supposed to explain why the bible is holy without making any reference to what is contain in it....especially if you claim that it's just a book

so can you try again to explain why a simple book is consider to be Holy?


I didn't make reference to anything in the bible in particular. If you're asking why the bible is called the Holy bible without using any form of reference to what's in the bible. It's impossible to describe something without using the attributes that it has.


Besides.. "Now - paraphrasing is ok - stating beliefs is ok..."


"Parrot-phrasing" is still quoting from the Bible


LOL!!!

Want me to define "paraphrasing" or will your delusions do that for ya???

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Mon 01/03/11 08:33 AM


If you're asking why the bible is called the Holy bible without using any form of reference to what's in the bible. It's impossible to describe something without using the attributes that it has.


you said that it could be done...you said the bible was only a book ....and that what's in the book is what makes it holy....

so going by your theory if those same words are used in a porn video therefore is the porn video considered to be holy?


Porn is unrighteous so therefore no it could not be holy.

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Mon 01/03/11 08:34 AM
Edited by chocolina on Mon 01/03/11 08:34 AM
Redykeulous wrote:



Redykeulous wrote:





Let's have a discussion about all things spiritual and religious oriented HERE'S THE CATCH.

No one is allowed to "quote" the bible or mention the bible after this post.






In the mean time - here are some thoughts on spirit beings.

to my understanding angels are spirits, ghosts of dead humans are spirits and there are spirits called poltergeists and there are demon spirits.



According to the old teachings and beliefs Angels are many kinds
and the most popular of them are our angels-teachers and angels-saviors.
About their origin : in all teaching and beliefs angels are alive people who come in our life in some reason and after their mission /to teach us, to support us, to give us hope and power , to back our faith in love and god , to safe our life , to change our life etc. etc..../ has done it they gone.

About demons,jinns etc.- all they said that they are spirits , ghosts of dead people /usually evil/ searching for revenge , or confused , or trapped between the worlds .




If you believe in God did he create the spirit first and then the body or the body and then the spirit. AND can a dead human's spirit become a Demon spirit?



The spirits/souls are immortal




Thanks for the information.

Can you explain - your meaning of "angels are alive people". Does that mean, like someone who seems just as human as we are? But they are only here on a mission?
If all angels are immortal, are there a fixed number of them or do they pro-create?


Angels are alive people like all of us.They have only mission which very rare some of them realized until one day , they understood that they did.
No mystic , just God use each one of us in some moment like
His tool and send us like an angel to cross and be in the life of someone and change it for better or we got our angels in our life
Unreal,ghostly angels came from fairy-tales and folklore .








I've read some Sci-fi and saw some movies in which angels pro-created with humans - do you think they can do that?




as you said - sci-fi





Thanks for making that clear. Many people believe as you do, that anyone can be an angel at any time and may not even know it.

But does an angel always have to be a good person, doing a good deed?

Can we learn a valuable lesson from someone that others think is a bad person? Would that person be an angel too?


Nah .... that understanding abt "good sinless" angel is just
another wrong idea which came from fairy-tales, folklore and the most from the bible and other holy books.
No one is sinless in this planet. We all do wrong and bad things and get our easy or painful lessons. But after them we get a step better , doesn't matter how each show or hide it this .

We all have very valuable qualities but some ppl doesn't know how to show and use them.








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Mon 01/03/11 08:34 AM




Yes I hear spirits everyday. When a person talks to you that is what controls the talking. The spirit. That's what controls our every action. That's why when a person is a nice person, they say he's in good spirits.


Cowboy...if the spirit controls what a person say and their actions.....wouldn't that mean that the person is a Zombie?


No my friend. You are your spirit. This physical body we have is merely something to contain that spirit. Your body is the temple of God where your spirit lives.


"your body is a temple of God" is quoting from the bible...

so can you try again to explain why a spirit control you without using quotes about God or things in the bible


I didn't quote from the bible. I didn't reference a verse or anything along those lines. I just gave the knowledge I have in my head. All our knowledge comes from something else, a book, a life experience, someone telling you, ect. So again I didn't quote any verse, I just gave the knowledge I had on the subject.

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Mon 01/03/11 08:48 AM

LOL!!!

Want me to define "paraphrasing" or will your delusions do that for ya???


Petepan...if you feel the need to Parrot-phrase from the dictionary then go right ahead...no problem...the orignal poster just ask that you not do it from the bible ....oops I meant "The Holy Bible"


so perhaps you like to give it a try and explain why a book is Holy if it is not worshipped

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Mon 01/03/11 08:51 AM



If you're asking why the bible is called the Holy bible without using any form of reference to what's in the bible. It's impossible to describe something without using the attributes that it has.


you said that it could be done...you said the bible was only a book ....and that what's in the book is what makes it holy....

so going by your theory if those same words are used in a porn video therefore is the porn video considered to be holy?


Porn is unrighteous so therefore no it could not be holy.


isn't adultry also unrighteous but yet it is in the bible ...

but anyway can you explain why a book is holy if it is not worshipped?

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Mon 01/03/11 08:51 AM


LOL!!!

Want me to define "paraphrasing" or will your delusions do that for ya???


Petepan...if you feel the need to Parrot-phrase from the dictionary then go right ahead...no problem...the orignal poster just ask that you not do it from the bible ....oops I meant "The Holy Bible"


so perhaps you like to give it a try and explain why a book is Holy if it is not worshipped


Because of the information the Holy bible contains. It's the scriptures that are holy, not the book itself.

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Mon 01/03/11 08:52 AM




If you're asking why the bible is called the Holy bible without using any form of reference to what's in the bible. It's impossible to describe something without using the attributes that it has.


you said that it could be done...you said the bible was only a book ....and that what's in the book is what makes it holy....

so going by your theory if those same words are used in a porn video therefore is the porn video considered to be holy?


Porn is unrighteous so therefore no it could not be holy.


isn't adultry also unrighteous but yet it is in the bible ...

but anyway can you explain why a book is holy if it is not worshipped?


Yes it is in the bible, but it does NOT permit such an action. It gives examples of what not to do and specifically tells us not to do as such.

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Mon 01/03/11 08:54 AM



LOL!!!

Want me to define "paraphrasing" or will your delusions do that for ya???


Petepan...if you feel the need to Parrot-phrase from the dictionary then go right ahead...no problem...the orignal poster just ask that you not do it from the bible ....oops I meant "The Holy Bible"


so perhaps you like to give it a try and explain why a book is Holy if it is not worshipped


Because of the information the Holy bible contains. It's the scriptures that are holy, not the book itself.


Cowboy...once again you are referring to the scriptures... the thread ask that you not do that .....that is why I asked you to explain why a "book" would be Holy if it is not Worshipped

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Mon 01/03/11 08:55 AM


LOL!!!

Want me to define "paraphrasing" or will your delusions do that for ya???


Petepan...if you feel the need to Parrot-phrase from the dictionary then go right ahead...no problem...the orignal poster just ask that you not do it from the bible ....oops I meant "The Holy Bible"


so perhaps you like to give it a try and explain why a book is Holy if it is not worshipped


Perhaps you would like to re-read the OP?

What you say funcheese?

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Mon 01/03/11 08:58 AM




LOL!!!

Want me to define "paraphrasing" or will your delusions do that for ya???


Petepan...if you feel the need to Parrot-phrase from the dictionary then go right ahead...no problem...the orignal poster just ask that you not do it from the bible ....oops I meant "The Holy Bible"


so perhaps you like to give it a try and explain why a book is Holy if it is not worshipped


Because of the information the Holy bible contains. It's the scriptures that are holy, not the book itself.


Cowboy...once again you are referring to the scriptures... the thread ask that you not do that .....that is why I asked you to explain why a "book" would be Holy if it is not Worshipped


Once again I didn't reference a scripture. And I told you THE BOOK ITSELF IS NOT HOLY, it's called the Holy bible because of the holy scriptures it contains, but nevertheless the book itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on.

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Mon 01/03/11 09:01 AM





If you're asking why the bible is called the Holy bible without using any form of reference to what's in the bible. It's impossible to describe something without using the attributes that it has.


you said that it could be done...you said the bible was only a book ....and that what's in the book is what makes it holy....

so going by your theory if those same words are used in a porn video therefore is the porn video considered to be holy?


Porn is unrighteous so therefore no it could not be holy.


isn't adultry also unrighteous but yet it is in the bible ...

but anyway can you explain why a book is holy if it is not worshipped?


Yes it is in the bible, but it does NOT permit such an action. It gives examples of what not to do and specifically tells us not to do as such.



can't a porn video show two married people engage in sex positions which are permitted as they are speaking the words from the holy book? ...now explain why the porn video wouldn't be holy

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Mon 01/03/11 09:02 AM



LOL!!!

Want me to define "paraphrasing" or will your delusions do that for ya???


Petepan...if you feel the need to Parrot-phrase from the dictionary then go right ahead...no problem...the orignal poster just ask that you not do it from the bible ....oops I meant "The Holy Bible"


so perhaps you like to give it a try and explain why a book is Holy if it is not worshipped


Perhaps you would like to re-read the OP?

What you say funcheese?


perhaps you like to stop avoiding answering the questions

what you say Peter the Pan?

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Mon 01/03/11 09:05 AM
Edited by Dragoness on Mon 01/03/11 09:08 AM


If you're asking why the bible is called the Holy bible without using any form of reference to what's in the bible. It's impossible to describe something without using the attributes that it has.


you said that it could be done...you said the bible was only a book ....and that what's in the book is what makes it holy....

so going by your theory if those same words are used in a porn video therefore is the porn video considered to be holy?


:wink: laugh I saw that one:wink: J/K

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Mon 01/03/11 09:08 AM





LOL!!!

Want me to define "paraphrasing" or will your delusions do that for ya???


Petepan...if you feel the need to Parrot-phrase from the dictionary then go right ahead...no problem...the orignal poster just ask that you not do it from the bible ....oops I meant "The Holy Bible"


so perhaps you like to give it a try and explain why a book is Holy if it is not worshipped


Because of the information the Holy bible contains. It's the scriptures that are holy, not the book itself.


Cowboy...once again you are referring to the scriptures... the thread ask that you not do that .....that is why I asked you to explain why a "book" would be Holy if it is not Worshipped


Once again I didn't reference a scripture. And I told you THE BOOK ITSELF IS NOT HOLY, it's called the Holy bible because of the holy scriptures it contains, but nevertheless the book itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on.


Cowboy...to claim that the book is holy because the scriptures in the book is holy is you once again making reference as to what is inside the book .......

but yet you claim that if those same religious scriptures were place in a porn video the video would not be holy ......aren't you contradicting yourself?



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Mon 01/03/11 09:09 AM






If you're asking why the bible is called the Holy bible without using any form of reference to what's in the bible. It's impossible to describe something without using the attributes that it has.


you said that it could be done...you said the bible was only a book ....and that what's in the book is what makes it holy....

so going by your theory if those same words are used in a porn video therefore is the porn video considered to be holy?


Porn is unrighteous so therefore no it could not be holy.


isn't adultry also unrighteous but yet it is in the bible ...

but anyway can you explain why a book is holy if it is not worshipped?


Yes it is in the bible, but it does NOT permit such an action. It gives examples of what not to do and specifically tells us not to do as such.



can't a porn video show two married people engage in sex positions which are permitted as they are speaking the words from the holy book? ...now explain why the porn video wouldn't be holy


That would fall into the category of lust. They are creating something that is then used in sinful actions. And sex for making videos to make a profit would also fall into the greed category.

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Mon 01/03/11 09:12 AM






LOL!!!

Want me to define "paraphrasing" or will your delusions do that for ya???


Petepan...if you feel the need to Parrot-phrase from the dictionary then go right ahead...no problem...the orignal poster just ask that you not do it from the bible ....oops I meant "The Holy Bible"


so perhaps you like to give it a try and explain why a book is Holy if it is not worshipped


Because of the information the Holy bible contains. It's the scriptures that are holy, not the book itself.


Cowboy...once again you are referring to the scriptures... the thread ask that you not do that .....that is why I asked you to explain why a "book" would be Holy if it is not Worshipped


Once again I didn't reference a scripture. And I told you THE BOOK ITSELF IS NOT HOLY, it's called the Holy bible because of the holy scriptures it contains, but nevertheless the book itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on.


Cowboy...to claim that the book is holy because the scriptures in the book is holy is you once again making reference as to what is inside the book .......

but yet you claim that if those same religious scriptures were place in a porn video the video would not be holy ......aren't you contradicting yourself?





No contradiction. Porn itself is sinful. The scriptures are holy because of the information they give to us to please our father and achieve ever lasting life. And the information that it contains tells us not to do such actions as porn and or watch it ect.

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