the answer is simple....Atheism can only exist because God doesn't

Well, if the Bible is true, I think Satan had the right idea and I'd be pleased to join him in his great struggle against the inequaties of a jealous and insecure godthing.
Besides, Satan could use some pointers in tactics.

umm..oky doky. Works for me...

Well, you're certainly not alone. According to the myth a full third of God's angels were in agreement with Satan. And for all we know the other two-thirds might have simply been too scared to speak their mind.

Also what would have happened if the majority of angels had sided with Satan? Would that have meant that Satan would have "won" his war with God?

Is God's authority dependent only on the size of his army (just like Earthy kings)?

Would majority rule? How many angels would need to disagree with God before God confesses that perhaps he is the one who is clinging to the wrong values?

What if all angels turned against God? Would God still be "right"?

Also, why do so many humans turn against God? God must truly be highly unlikable.

Of course, based on what the modern Christians tell us, a person doesn't need to actually turn against God to be against God. All you need to do is non-believe in God and you're automatically God's enemy whether you might actually be in agreement with God or not.

They probably figure that you're not going to be in agreement with God because they already know that God is unreasonable. So no reasonable human is going to automatically be in agreement with God unless there is some sort of incentive to agree. Like a prize for agreeing, and a punishment for not agreeing.

It's all so utterly ridiculous. The fact that people continue to push these silly stories with genuine conviction is just a profound statement of how the human species isn't all that far removed from monkeys in terms of brain evolution.

It's a common myth among Christians that Satan rebelled, because he wanted to be God. That's not actually in the Bible, so it's a guess at best. My best guess (and one that is popular in theological circles) is that that Satan rebelled because of a promise Jesus made his followers. God's plan included a blessing for good people that was denied all of the angels and that outraged Satan and 1/3 of the angels.

I'm not sure if Satan necassarily "rebelled". But he did see himself greater then God and though he could do a better job at running the world.
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Isaiah 14:12-15

12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

As you continue to read that chapter, it becomes clear that the author is talking about an earthly king who thought himself great. The author sarcastically calls this king heylel "Bright Morning Star" (a very high compliment in that area), which for some inexplicable reason was replaced with the Latin word "Lucifer", which means "light-bearer".

Have done read further. And yes most to all the bible may be related to things done on earth. You forget we are made in the image of God. Heck people can watch cartoons if they wish and relate it to them directly. ANYTHING can be related to you personally if you wish for it to be.

What?

i mean...

HUH!?

That would be like newton saying the apple is in the tree therefore it can never fall... it is part of the tree.

The answer is even simpler.

Atheism and God both exist because man does.

If we were not here neither would have a reason to exist.

Since we are here everything we imagine exists does.

But there was and is a reason for our father even before man came into the picture. Our father has been here since the beginning of time, he is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end. We're not the only creations our father has made. There are angels as well. We're merely children in the process of growing, do you forget we are God's as well? Not exactly sure what that in-tells for the future exactly. But the earth is not the end of anything, merely the start of something more great.

No that doesn't mean we STILL will CONTINUE sinning, absolutely true. But nevertheless the lord knows we will stumble from time to time even after accepting him as lord and saviour. That is why he offers forgiveness. Now this forgiveness isn't a free pass to sin and do what ever we want, no. But it is there for when we stumble through our lives and take our salvation for granted.

No, we are not "wired" to sin. No where does it say that. If there is such a statement that I have missed, please inform us of such.

Read the Sumerian legends. You can find them at reputable Archology sites on the internet.

Might suprise you as they predate the bible.

Yet lo and behold they hold the same 'fall from grace' myths amongest the 'gods'. (except that 'satan' is the son of one of the 'gods').

Read the Sumerian legends. You can find them at reputable Archology sites on the internet.

Might suprise you as they predate the bible.

Yet lo and behold they hold the same 'fall from grace' myths amongest the 'gods'. (except that 'satan' is the son of one of the 'gods').

Quite possibly. The "bible" is not that old. The bible is a collection of books that are quite a bit older then the bible itself. Quite.

I submit to you that if man did not exist neither would god (as-we-know-him).

Since neither of us was 'present' at the moment of creation as set forth in the bible niether of us should accept such account blindly.

For if there is an alpha and an omega as described, there most assuredly is also a 'containment field' that hold that circle. If there is such 'containment field' then there also is a medium that contains such 'containment field'.

How far can you 'see'.

So I don't have to quote you words again I will just make this a straight statement.

When I sin it is not because I stumbled... It is because I chose to sin...

Perhaps unwisely but choice it was.

Which is one reason why I can not allow an ancient prophet to 'take' my 'sin'... I am responsible for what I do.

That is your choice. But keep in mind with every action there is a reaction. When children are disobedient they are punished in one way or other for their misbehaviour. Do you really wish to accept the punishment for sins? And also keep in mind the only reward for sin is death. You do not need to respond to this post if you wish not to, it is not specifically meant for a response. It is merely a statement for you to seriously ponder upon.

And our father exists weather you wish to believe he does or not. If i do not wish to believe penguins exist, that does not mean they truly don't. Only that I wish for them not to, but regardless of my belief they will exist.

Does it not say that God will chasten all of his sons whom he loves?
And does it not also say that God loves all?
Also, are not all of God's creations worthy of praise?

Everyone is responsible for their own actions...

Praise and worship are almost two entirely different actions. I can give something/someone praise but not worship them. Yes when you worship something you praise that of which you worship. But you do have to worship that of which you praise.

And yes everyone is accountable for their actions in life.

The Jewish tradition has an interesting take on Say-tin. One which I agree with. They also do not believe Say-tin and the serpent are one and the same.

It's worth looking into.