why do you think me as equal to yourself, when you declare you "sin", or do things you are not proud of each day?

i do not sin.

i know not sin.

for indeed, your own text declares me "free of sin".

for i have paid all my penalties for sin, not being willing to make any other mortal or god, to take my punishment or grief, so therefore, have risen to "free of ALL sin".

do you not know, "sin" is only wishing another to bear the burden of self's poor choices, or trying to extract the desired emotion out of another such as love for self, and the will and motive to escape any due accountability unto other's for such self choices?

but, you deem me to have sin, lol...

your first assessment of me having sin, was your very first sin my boy.

and indeed, i cast not the first stone, until you have cast your stone at me, as "guity as sin", so indeed, i still exude all your own text, lol...

and, not just me, BUT YOU DECLARE ALL IN THE WORLD to have sin?

LOL...

so indeed, this one be guilty of many sins, deeming many to be of sin.

THERE BE NOT ONE JOT OR TITTLE OF SIN WITHIN MY BEING, AND WITHIN MANY OTHER BEING'S THAT EXIST, AS MANY ARE NO LONGER CHILDREN, THAT WANT ANOTHER OR THEIR "FATHER", OR DADDY TO PAY FOR THEIR MISTAKES, AND LIVE NOT BUT TO GET "LOVE" FROM ANOTHER, OR FROM GOD.

NO, ALL IN THE WORLD ARE NOT "SINNER'S" AS SELF, BASEED UPON HOW SELF "FEEL" ABOUT "ITSELF".

THE VERY FIRST INEQUITY, OR UNEQUAL PERCEPTION.

and why it was also written, what be sin for one be not sin for another.

but, this you leave out, so that you can "feel" that all other's are as "guilty as yourself", and to make oneself FEEL BETTER ABOUT ITSELF, trying to convince other's to SEEK SPARING OF SELF CONSEQUENCE?

WHAT WOULD EXIST IN THE WORLD, IF "ALL" SEEK SPARING OF SELF CONSEQUENCE?

so, this motive be not of COMMON GOOD, OR OF COMMOM HAPPINESS FOR ALL?

lol...

and this is the "freedom" you wish to share and guide to?

from the "burden", with self as the wise guide and wise insight?

fear of consequence,t be the VERY FIRST BURDEN taken onto the human self.

INDUCED BY A HUMAN INCLINATION TO ESCAPE CONSEQUENCE, so indeed, your words propgate more burden.

your own words prove you have not shed any such burden, or there could be no speech dictating a wish and want and will and motive to "spare self" as some GOOD, AND THE WAY OF "NO BURDEN"?

LOL...

and this actually be touted as the "way to be greatness"?

is not anything that be great, even in all the world, because it WANTED THE CONSEQUENCE OF IT'S OWN ACTIONS?

BECAUSE IT WANTED "CRITICISM" FROM ALL, to better itself?

did not michael jordon become great, because he wanted the criticism of his TEAMMATES AND COACH AS THE FATHER?

what of tiger woods?

what of any that has risen to greatness, have in common?

they none wanted any sparing for themself, OF HOW SELF COULD BE BETTER?

none said to critique, thats not true!

michael jorden said no such thing about his game, or he would have been mediocre.

but your entire premise of all spoken, be against any reality of what and how and why any "great" even be created.

THE ENTIRE INTERPETATION'S STAND AGAINST ANY ACCOUNTABILITY AND ABILITY OF SELF, TO EXCELL, BY ACCEPTING NEGATIVE FEEDBACK AS HAVING MERIT, as these that think they are "saved", have deemed this the same as "nothing" said about themself IS TRUE?

and this be why such has no choice but to lead to self delusions, which in time, be self unsanity.

to repeat the same action's, and expect a different result, by accessing it "others fault", or other's "sin".

such is blasphemy of all the principles of "god", or what create "good" instead of more "bad".

how are you going to free from the "burden", if one knows not what even the burden be?

the fear of consequence dear boy, so then running from consequence, causing the very degeneration of itself into it's own self abyss of no greatness.

just like all the preachers do, and most of the politicians do, and most the sheeples do, and on and on and on...

only a child "fear consequence", for an adult in full control of itself, knows itself created all itself touched with itself, and if anything caused "harm" or "bad", then it steps foward and say's, THAT WAS TOTALLY MY FAULT, I ACCEPT ANY PENALTY ACCESSED BY MY FELLOW MAN, FOR MY DEEDS.

like "munford and sons".......

"it was all my fault, i really ****ed it up this time my dear didn't i", lol...

thats more christain than all the self sparing christian's put together.

why of course, if anything see other's as equal to itself, than it see WHAT THEY THINK OF WHAT ITSELF SPEAK AND DO, JUST AS MEANINGFUL AS WHAT SELF THINKS OF WHAT THEY SPEAK AND DO.

but those that live but to spare themself "consequence", feel the BURDEN, OH YEA, WE ARE IN TOTAL AGREEMENT IN THIS ONE, LOL...

that "feeling" goes away, as soon as one stand up like a man, and say i wish for no one to pay my penalty of my deeds or words, or to spare me ANYTHING, AND MOST FOR SURE, NO SPARING OF SELF AT ANOTHER'S EXPENSE?

THAT IS A TOTAL COWARD MENTALITY.

a slacker, a loser, a weasel, a leech on society, a bedsore upon the bed of humanity, a lepor that seeks to inflict other's with it's own disease, of it's own feelings of inferiority that come from self guilt wished to be relieved, instead of undone, for the sight of seeing and caring about others.

such "burden" first came because it "hid" from accountability, or "hid from god", or justice, as god be called most LOVE, OR TRUE JUSTICE.

so, your haste to believe in your BELIEF AS SUPREME, has blinded you to how this automatically makes self guilty of deeming itself as supreme huh?

NO HUMAN CAN STAND, AND SAY IT'S BELIEF BE SUPREME, AND "NOT" BE DECLARING ITSELF AS SUPREME.

if it is said to be your BELIEF, AND DEEMED AS SUPREME, AS IN NOT ONE SLIVER POSSIBLE OF BEING INCORRECT, THEN NO SUCH BELIEF COULD BE SAID TO BE SUCHA, UNLESS SELF BELIEVED ITSELF "MOST WISE", IN THE CHOOSING OF IT'S OWN BELIEF, SO THEN AGAIN IN ITSELF AS IT'S INSIGHT AS SUPREME.

hum...

and these as lucifer and his angels, were cast down from heaven to earth, FOR BELIEVING THEY WERE AS EQUAL TO GOD, OR AS SUPREME AS GOD?

seems to match the mentality with every essence possible.

but, then even god does not declare itself as supreme, BUT ALL AS SUPREME.

is what the brain thinks, or a belief, which is JUST WHAT SELF THINKS, SOMEHOW NOT ATTACHED TO SELF?

LOL...

SOME FOREIGN ENTITY?

if the belief show self a hypocrite, and self supremacist, then this applies not?

but, if the belief show's self to be good and holier than other's, it be correct?

such servews for nothing but to blind the intellect to oneself.

the very defending of a SINGULAR belief, prove a self supremacist motive and intent, and it is wondered why many come against self, but self hear all their words as without merit?

lol...

so, this means self DOES NOT SEE "ALL AS EQUAL", but rather, ONLY THOSE THAT BELIEVE AS SELF, lol...

AND THIS "WE" YOU SPEAK OF?

no mortal can even begin to see other's as EQUAL, and speak FOR THEM WITH A "WE", AS IDENTIFYING "OTHER'S" AS BEING JUST AS ITSELF, IF IT SEE THEM AS EQUAL OR "SOVERERIGN" BEINGS IN THEMSELF...

IF YOU CAN'T FIND THE MERIT IN OTHER WORDS, THAN ITS SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T SEEK BUT TO PROVE THERE BE NO MERIT, FIRST BECAUSE YOU DEEM THEM ALL GUILTY OF SIN.

HOW IS THAT SO HARD TO SEE?

OF COURSE, BECAUSE SELF BELIEVE ITSELF BELIEF AS SUPREME, SO OTHERS ARE DEEMED AS HAVING NO VALUABLE INSIGHT TO OFFER AS EQUAL TO SELF THOUGHT OR BELIEF.

and this is "all as eqaul"...

each ****ing mortal as DIFFERENT than you, IS THE ESSENCE OF "ALL AS EQUAL".

YOU SPEAK WITH BIAS AS "EQUAL", AS IF ALL ARE REALLY "JUST LIKE YOU"!

???

no dude, NOT ONE IS LIKE YOU.

because you believe in NOTHING BUT THE SELF DECALRED BELIEF, WHICH IS BUT TO AGAIN BELIEVE IN SELF AS SUPREME.

and as such, any environmental "feedback", created by YOUR WORDS, you deem defective and without merit.

LOL...

SO OF COURSE, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THIS COMES FROM.

FROM YOU!

if you actually believed YOU "fell short", and "failed" your FATHER EACH DAY, as you say, then you would not EVEN FIRST BEGIN TO BELIEVE YOURSELF CAPABLE OF "GUIDING" OTHER'S TO GREATNESS, or how to relieve their "burden"?

and it you say, i wish to help make other's great, thru jesus?

YOU FIRST HAD TO DEEM THEM NOT GREAT, TO WISH TO DO SO?

so, indeed, other's are not SEEN AS GREAT, SO THEN AS LESS THAN GREAT?

SUCH SUPERIORITY RUN AMOCK.

and you speak the father is "jesus", as only "one" as great?

when even himself said that in truth, or in heaven, there be NONE GRATER THAN ANOTHER?

and that ye are "all gods".

and this, jesus having spoke, "i and the father are ONE!

nothing speak as scuh, if it is ITSELF THE FATHER!

lol...

AND NOTHING SPEAK, YE ARE ALL GODS, IF ITSELF BE THE "ONLY GOD"!

and the signs litter the highways, only ONE WAY TO HEAVEN, JESUS!

total anti-christ babble.

take your ****ing albatross of twisted anti-christ self serving as self as great rhetoric back to the father of such, for debunking of the self belief itself, to the "devil" its creator, as the "devil" was called nothing more than but a "HUMAN", that chooses to base it's belief, to shape it's motive, based upon what ITSELF THINKS WILL PROCURE GOOD FOR "ITSELF"!

PROTECTION FOR ITSELF!

RELIEF FROM ALL ACCOUNTABILITY OF ITSELF!

of course, these that do such, embrace a interpertation of a belief that create "god" in their mind to be as the SAME WAY.

****ing hogs wash...

as a swine that returns to it's vomit, so doth these believe in what suites their own lust for power, and good for themself, and dictatorship and lordship over other's.

It's been a while since I've seen medicine re-administered to the bearer with such humorous poignancy.

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.i do not sin.

i know not sin.

for indeed, your own text declares me "free of sin".

for i have paid all my penalties for sin, not being willing to make any other mortal or god, to take my punishment or grief, so therefore, have risen to "free of ALL sin".
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Romans 3:23

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
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Glad you think so highly of yourself, hope your pride gets you far.
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do you not know, "sin" is only wishing another to bear the burden of self's poor choices, or trying to extract the desired emotion out of another such as love for self, and the will and motive to escape any due accountability unto other's for such self choices?
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Sin is disobedience to our father. Doing the opposite of what he has said, thus doing as Satan wishes.
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your first assessment of me having sin, was your very first sin my boy.

and indeed, i cast not the first stone, until you have cast your stone at me, as "guity as sin", so indeed, i still exude all your own text, lol
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I judged not, therefore I cast no stone. All i mentioned that EVERYONE has sinned, including you. Didn't say you weren't going to heaven for doing as such or anything. I treat you no differently then I would treat anyone else, including a preacher or something of such. Why try to make it look like i've done bad? What purpose does that hold?
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and why it was also written, what be sin for one be not sin for another.
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What is sin for one is sin for everybody. We will all be judged on the same scale, the same laws. Sin is again disobedience to our father. Nothing more, nothing less. So you're gonna tell me, you done not one thing that was against the will of our father? You've not broken one little law of our father?
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YOU SPEAK WITH BIAS AS "EQUAL", AS IF ALL ARE REALLY "JUST LIKE YOU"!

???

no dude, NOT ONE IS LIKE YOU.
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Very true. No one is like me, no one is like you, no one is like anyone but themselves. We are all equal for we all have failed in way or other in our fathers eyes. The only one to have gone through life without sin, without blemish, was Jesus Christ. And that is where i get to saying we are all equal. For we all have sinned, and the only sin greater then all is denying the Lord thy God. The rest of the sins are all equal.
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And not going to respond to the rest of your post, for you babble on for hours. You repeat yourself at times through your post and I do not wish to waste my time browsing through to see more nonsense. Again, not one time have I said i'm better then anyone, which alot of your post tried to point.

tick tick tick....

well damn, its about time you stop responding to me!

thank you!

if one deem itself "washed in the blood of jesus", how does it still sin?

and, if it declare itself sins not, beased upon the precepts written, then it hath sinned because it has too much pride?

ah, but indeed, only "false pride", was deemed as "sin", or what create unhappiness for self, lol...

my pride is not false, for it is founded in the very words of your text as true, so if my pride is false, so be your text.

you deem me to be "false", actually sinning when i say i do not?

well how can this be so?

was it not written, "blessed be the man to whom god doth not input sin"?

was it not also written, "there is now therefore no condemnation for those that be in christ"?

jesus is my ****ing bro dude, my brother in equal arms, for indeed, we fight for the same things, lol...

if you did, then you would not access some human called jesus demanded obedience from anything, lol...

he called those that demanded "obedience" unto a "god", as whitewashed houses full of dead mans bones, and declared these that demanded obedience unto "god", of their father the devil?

jesus is not anyone's ****ing "dad", except any children he may have had that was not witten, lol...

but, you access that "jesus" would be against such lauguage even used, to describe the essence, lol...

ah, but if you knew the spirit of "jesus", you would not think of him as some tyrannical hitler type, that demands subservience from other's, as indeed, all that was written of the man himself, show he was appalled by such attitudes taken on by those that wished to think of themself falsly representing the "divine"...

i wish to extend a heartfelt THANK YOU, for agreeing not to respond to any more of my babble any longer, for indeed, such would be a complete and total waste of time for you, i concur.

YOU HAVE BLESSED ME THIS DAY DEAR BOY.

for indeed, you have given me what i have so wished from the beginning.

is there a purpose in speaking to that which hath no ears to hear anything but it's own belief repeated back to itself, so it can but hear the whirling of the same gears of yesterday, that created malice and hatred amoung mankind.

indeed, i concur no good reason at all.

I can't even remember ever wanting to beat the crap of anyone.

Maybe when I was young and immature. But certainly not in my adult life. That's just ridiculous.

Truly,

If sin is "willful disobedience of God", and a person has accepted Jesus as their LORD and savior and professes to be his unwavering "servant" dutifully evangelizing and proselytizing his word, then how can that same person continue to "willfully disobey Jesus?"

That makes no sense at all. If I believed that Jesus was God and I gave myself over to become his loyal servant I most certainly wouldn't continue to disobey him. That would be ludicrous.

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if one deem itself "washed in the blood of jesus", how does it still sin?

and, if it declare itself sins not, beased upon the precepts written, then it hath sinned because it has too much pride?

ah, but indeed, only "false pride", was deemed as "sin", or what create unhappiness for self, lol...
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That's like saying if you wash the dishes yesterday, why were they dirty tonight? The washing away of the sins does, means just that. Washed away the sins you HAVE done. That does not mean you will not fall victim to Satan's evil charm once again. Just because someone has accepted Jesus does not make the immune to Satan and or sinning. Like the verse i've mentioned, we ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of god. No segregation, no separation. We ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
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was it not written, "blessed be the man to whom god doth not input sin"?
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God does not "input sin". Sin is disobedience to our father. When you, I, or anyone else sins it is not done because of our father. It is done because of our own actions, our own decisions.

I pray you find the truth of lord my friend. You seem like a very intelligent man. Even with your weird talking, which is used to get the reader confused alteast a bit so that they will respond in a incorrect way. I pray you find the truth.

This is utterly absurd Cowboy.

Even the verses that claim that all of sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God wouldn't apply AFTER you've accepted Jesus as your LORD and savior!

So you were a sinner BEFORE that, big deal. There's no reason to continue to sin after that.

Also what this crap about falling "victim" to Satan's "charm". Are you CHEATING on Jesus by dating Satan?

Can't you be TRUE to Jesus, you have to cheat on him with Satan.

That's bull crap. If sin is a CHOICE and you claim to have Chosen Jesus over Satan as your LORD, then to continue to fall for Satan's "charm" would be utterly absurd and ludicrous.



You're going to pray for someone else, while you CONFESS to continue to follow the charm of Satan?

You just said in your quote above, "Sin is disobedience to our father", so in order for you to sin you must disobey your father.

That's the only way you can possibly sin, because that is the definition of sin.

Therefore you continue to blatantly disobey your Father even after you've supposedly accepted his sacrifice to pay for you sins and forgive you of your sins and everything else. You still continue to willing CHOOSE to fall for the seductive "charm" of Satan's evil ways as you put it.

This all just sounds like you haven't made much of a commitment to your Lord, and you're still flirting with and dating Satan.

You need to give up dating Satan if you want to become the Bride of Jesus. Your life should be 100% sin-free at this point if you have given yourself over to Jesus Christ the almighty savior. And you shouldn't be feeling that its a 'sacrifice' to stop beating the crap out of people. Why that makes you feel good in the first place is a grave mystery. Beating the crap out of people is not something that should please you.

Putting religion aside for a moment, you might want to consider the possibility of taking an anger management course. Giving yourself over to Jesus doesn't seem to be working very well. Especially if you're still having affairs with Satan on the side.

Have you told Satan that you're dating Jesus?

You really need to just break it off with Satan completely. There's no point in continuing to date him if you're committed to Jesus now.

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This is utterly absurd Cowboy.

Even the verses that claim that all of sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God wouldn't apply AFTER you've accepted Jesus as your LORD and savior!

So you were a sinner BEFORE that, big deal. There's no reason to continue to sin after that.

Also what this crap about falling "victim" to Satan's "charm". Are you CHEATING on Jesus by dating Satan? huh

Can't you be TRUE to Jesus, you have to cheat on him with Satan.

That's bull crap. If sin is a CHOICE and you claim to have Chosen Jesus over Satan as your LORD, then to continue to fall for Satan's "charm" would be utterly absurd and ludicrous.
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No as a child of God we do not go around stealing, lieing, ect. We do not murder, we do not rape, and so much more. We obey the laws our father has set out before us. But nevertheless we do still stumble from time to time and get weak. We sin from time to time, possibly a little lie not thinking any major of it.

When we accept Jesus as lord and saviour we are changed. Once you have allowed Jesus into the temple *your heart* he then strengthens your conscience. When you think about doing such an action as before he's there telling you not to. And this is what we will be judged on, we will be judged on our obedience. No one but Jesus Christ was perfect, we are only made perfect through Jesus. Without Jesus we are merely worthless rags not worth the time of day.

That doesn't say much for our creator.

For someone who likes to think that God is all-powerful you sure don't give him much credit as a creator if you are convinced that all he can create is worthless rags.

The idea that we were created by such a totally inept creator just doesn't sound very appealing to me.

If we're going to believe in a "God" why don't we go all the way and truly imagine a God that is worthy of our creation?

Otherwise we may as well settle for being atheists.

Making up an feeble God who is so inept that he can only create worthless rags is just a waste of time, IMHO.

If you're going to believe in a creation myth and a God, then go for it!

Why wallow in the slums with male-chauvinistic pigs whose God can't do better than create worthless rags?

No, what our father created is perfect. But the creation itself chooses to be as worthless as rags. They choose not to be obedient, they choose to kill one another, they choose to be evil. What God originally created when we came out, we were perfect. Through our lives and our choices of actions we have made ourselves rags.

hey!

you broke your word.

you said you were no longer going to respond to my babble!

and, you deem my talking weird, and access my motive to be to "confuse other's", to make them respond incorrectly?

is their some "correct" response?

is not what self feel and think honestly the only correct response?

then, self learn new things each day, from all itself hears and see's in the world?

is that not what "ever learning" is, as your text command as good?

lest oneself be trying to pose itself as something "always correct", why would it be concerned with any "incorrect response"?

there is no "incorrect response".

for even a lie, be the correct response, to show what speak a lie, to then know more of reality?

but, then it was said, that humans that take a belief unto themself, do indeed become as "never learning", since all that is being done after this point in time, is the trying to prove to other's and oneself how self be correct at all times, and soon, at any cost.

thank you for praying for me to know more truth.

since i wish nothing from you, and certainly no personal favor from any god, then i insist you beseech not your god for anything for me or on my behalf.

but indeed, i can assure you that each prayer you may pray for me, to know more truth, that touch the ears of any divine father, will but remove oneself further from any most truth itself...

as this one first had personal bias, that it wished to foster in itself, by deeming another knows no truth, but itself does...

and of course, no father that love all with no favor or bias toward any, would embrace any such bias displayed in any prayer as good...

but rather, most return unto this one just as was written in the text, what self wishes to hear, lol...

to allow and give what one ask, for it was written, "for if one ask the father for bread, shall it be given a stone"?

hardly not.

so self indeed doth get what itself ask, even if such be unto one's own undoing...

of course, such being to facilitate this one coming to see it be not prudent to ask of any "god" how another hath no truth, but rather to ask the father only how self may know more most truth itself.

for the wise know to ask but for wise things, lest one ask for many sweet candies for self, to pour down from the heavens upon it's head, and crush itself under the weight of.

of course, shall and should anything be granted divine wisdom, or power, if the only reason it wants it be to procure good for ITSELF?

or to spare it's own buttocks or emotions from some self induced pain, from it's own actions, from it's own uninpsected self attaining motives?

for why would any "god", that doth or might exist, that have wisdom and power beyond all mortal comprehension, give it to anything that wished but good for itself?

would not this one then take such, and but use it to feed itself, and try to enrich itself, and try to lift itself unto great with it, and in blind haste to think of itself as wise, even attempt to build a tower and empire for itself?

these with such motives would build a great tower for themself, that if it falls over on their fellow man and crushes them to death, would stedfastly blame their fellow man for walking underneath it.

hardly not.

surely not.

never.

That just utter nonsense.

If we were created perfect, we'd be perfect.

None of your comments on this religion have ever made any sense.

It's utter nonsense.

Our actions are not made by our father. Our actions are made by us. Our father made us, not the actions we choose to make in our lives.

You must be new to Earth. We're violent here. Be careful...
Personally, I want to beat the crap out of a lot of people. Frequently. A short fuse is a hard thing to live with. Fortunatly, I have mastered a modicum of self-control. I haven't hit anyone out of anger for over 26 years. Despite ample provocation.

these words are indeed good wisdom and insight.

if they are apllied to the total self, in all ways in true reality.

a splendid effect such would have upon humanity...

if our actions are made by us, and not by our father, then why doth one seek answers from a father, whom had no input into the actions of self?

why would one try to use association with a "god the father", to show or prove itself in a better light now?

is it not the guilt of how self treated others, to kill, or rape, or molest, or abuse, that would make any a worthless rag?

nay, but rather the harm and pain itself created for another?

but it be taught to come to the father, if one has guilt, and for the removal of guilt from self?

when indeed, such was but false motive, for the guilt came from doing and acting without caring about other's?

so to ask for more caring would be the only truly remorse by any mortal over worhtless deeds unto another?

but, there is never any mention from any of the religion's, of asking god to "afford" self more caring for it's fellow man?

only instruction of how to rid the self of guilt?

or, of how to rid self of doomed feelings for self, steming from it's own guilt?

if one rape, and it be worthless for it, than is it not the one that self raped, that one need to make ammends to?

why would any father, forgive anybody for something it did unto another human being?

why would "god" forgive anybody for anything then?

it is but a self contrived belief, that such things be indeed afforded by some "sky god"...

that consume the brain with false notions of itself as somehow immune, from any recompence from it's own fellow man, the itself harmed.

would not any "father", instruct any that oneself harmed, to seek to make amends to what it harmed?

but, indeed, the present "christian" dogma, does not endorse any such notion at all.

why would any father, that was not the one raped, hear any plea of forgiveness from someone that raped?

of course, it would not.

self just wishes to believe itself be forgiven, and so then find the proof in outside written words, defined the way self wants them defined, to prosper the notion and belief that such actually be a fact for itself...

why would one even come to a father, for any help in what itself hath made itself into?

indeed, such be the very fallicy of belief, that create the notion that if self claim itself be "of the father", it be now immune to any making of amends unto other's for it woeful mistreatment of them.

and, as such believe itself need not even admit any wrong doing to it's fellow man that it harmed, even though the same book declare to confess one's sins unto it's fellow man...

lol...

but, to confess them to god be soooooooooooooooooo much easier, and no one will have to know, how mr priest sodomized many a young lad and lass.

and so, why so many repeat offenders, of the most atrocious offenses and acts upon other's, come forth abundently from the CHURCH.

for, from out of the church, flow forth rivers of living waters of self forgiveness, for self.

rivers of self damned by all that flow out of the churches, whom foster every foul and sick demented minds worst nightmare, by offering forgiveness, for a donation or a membership card.

**** the ****ing churches.

for these believe, that there secret sins are anulled, without any need to makes amends to the victim, or to even confess to anyone they have been committed, not lest pressure be brought to bear that threaten to destroy their self made empires, which certainly helps to foster the repeating of all such foul actions over and again.

and why the churchs, spawn so many child rapist and child abuser's and scum of the earth, who but seek "god" for gorgiveness for themself, caring not one iota about the lack of caring itself has for other humans, nor asking of "god" of how to make amends for such deeds.

so, it be for this reason most, that the churches be damned, and accursed, and of their father the devil, and not of "god" as good, as so many loyal followers do wish to declare, for indeed, if they don't serve loyally, their own forgiveness may hang in the balance.

what a bunch of mind ****ed degenerates.

Cowboy...

"That does not mean you will not fall victim to Satan's evil charm once again"

huh...

Satan I have never seen.

When I do something that you might classify as a 'sin' it is me, myself, and I, that 'charms' me into doing this 'sin'.

'Satan' has nothing to do with it.

IMHO the concept of 'satan' rates right up there with the fable of 'santa clause', 'winged' men and talking donkys.

It is a concept used to control the masses and therefore a tool of man.

None the less, according to the doctrine you support all humans are innately wired to choose poorly. So it doesn't matter. It still ultimately falls upon the shoulders of the creator for having created inferior beings.

You worship a truly sick mythology, IMHO.

Why you have chosen to worship such an inept picture of a God is beyond me. You either have an extreme lack of imagination, or you are so innately evil yourself you just think the picture fits.

This picture makes no sense to decent people.

I have noticed that. And sometimes I think the Bible might be true after all. Perhaps these violent people are all descendants of Israelites and this God is indeed the God of the Israelites.

After all, the scriptures have Jesus saying that he only came for the sick and not for the righteous. So perhaps he did come for these nasty people and the reason that none of this makes any sense to me is because it simply doesn't apply to me.

The nasty people are both nasty and stupid (a requirement for being nasty), and therefore they can't see that there are actually good people in the world. So they think this biblical God is for everyone, but in reality he just came to offer them a chance to straighten up.

I've been thinking that maybe that's the way it works and this is why it makes absolutely no sense to me. I'm simply not a descendant of those nasty ancient Israelites. I'm probably the son of a Celtic Goddess or something cool like that.