Topic: Farrakhans Ministry of Hate Exposed
s1owhand's photo
Sun 11/14/10 07:29 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Sun 11/14/10 07:32 AM
jews do not network any more effectively than christians, buddhists, hindus, sihks, athests or muslims...

laugh whoa

sounds like more conspiratorial suspicious silliness to me

drinker

Alomari's photo
Sun 11/14/10 08:29 AM

It is easy to point a finger and call people and orgainsations racist. It is far harder to accept the truth whether or not that truth is palatable.

Farrakhan believes that some white people are devils and he also believes that some black people are devils. He is open about this, but all too often the biased media journalists only report the information which affects them personally; rather than the whole picture. It is difficult to be intelligently informed from a skewed perspective.

Farrakhan also talks about the millions of people of African origin Hitler also put to death in the gas chambers. I wonder why the so-called free press don't seem to report on this?

'What were Africans doing in Germany during that period?' I hear you ask. During World War One many Africans were forced to fight for Germany as their homelands at that time were German colonies. These included Namibia, Togo, Cameroon and Tanzania. Some of these colonies were subsequently lost to the French. Consequently, during World War Two there were many Africans living in Germany. Some Africans were soliders who had married and had children with German women. Hitler despised this and sought to rid German of what he considered 'Rhineland B*stards'. It is understood that more Africans were slaughtered during the Holocaust than Non-African Jews (lets remember that Judaism is a religion rather than a nationality).

Farrakhan reports the truth however distasteful it may be.

Alomari's photo
Sun 11/14/10 08:35 AM

It is easy to point a finger and call people and orgainsations racist. It is far harder to accept the truth whether or not that truth is palatable.

Farrakhan believes that some white people are devils and he also believes that some black people are devils. He is open about this, but all too often the biased media journalists only report the information which affects them personally; rather than the whole picture. It is difficult to be intelligently informed from a skewed perspective.

Farrakhan also talks about the millions of people of African origin Hitler also put to death in the gas chambers. I wonder why the so-called free press don't seem to report on this?

'What were Africans doing in Germany during that period?' I hear you ask. During World War One many Africans were forced to fight for Germany as their homelands at that time were German colonies. These included Namibia, Togo, Cameroon and Tanzania. Some of these colonies were subsequently lost to the French. Consequently, during World War Two there were many Africans living in Germany. Some Africans were soliders who had married and had children with German women. Hitler despised this and sought to rid German of what he considered 'Rhineland B*stards'. It is understood that more Africans were slaughtered during the Holocaust than Non-African Jews (lets remember that Judaism is a religion rather than a nationality).

Farrakhan reports the truth however distasteful it may be.

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Sun 11/14/10 10:29 AM

jews do not network any more effectively than christians, buddhists, hindus, sihks, athests or muslims...
...
sounds like more conspiratorial suspicious silliness to me


Of course we have to be careful with generalizations, not all people from any group have the qualities the group is stereotyped with (and sometimes very few have the qualities). And yes, this suggestion (Jews network well) can play into conspiratorial insanity and bigotry - but that, by itself, doesn't make it false.

But its also silly to think that all groups have equal inclination to all behaviors. Generally, what you believe effects how you behave. Generally, what you are taught, how you were raised, and how your friends/family behave all effect how you behave.

I don't think we could begin to make reasonable generalizations about an ethnicity or religious group without narrowing down the subculture...like "[insert variety] [insert ethnicity/religion] in [insert time period] in [insert country/region]." And almost all generalizations about people become unreasonable when applied to individuals.

s1owhand's photo
Sun 11/14/10 10:54 AM


It is easy to point a finger and call people and orgainsations racist. It is far harder to accept the truth whether or not that truth is palatable.

Farrakhan believes that some white people are devils and he also believes that some black people are devils. He is open about this, but all too often the biased media journalists only report the information which affects them personally; rather than the whole picture. It is difficult to be intelligently informed from a skewed perspective.

Farrakhan also talks about the millions of people of African origin Hitler also put to death in the gas chambers. I wonder why the so-called free press don't seem to report on this?

'What were Africans doing in Germany during that period?' I hear you ask. During World War One many Africans were forced to fight for Germany as their homelands at that time were German colonies. These included Namibia, Togo, Cameroon and Tanzania. Some of these colonies were subsequently lost to the French. Consequently, during World War Two there were many Africans living in Germany. Some Africans were soliders who had married and had children with German women. Hitler despised this and sought to rid German of what he considered 'Rhineland B*stards'. It is understood that more Africans were slaughtered during the Holocaust than Non-African Jews (lets remember that Judaism is a religion rather than a nationality).

Farrakhan reports the truth however distasteful it may be.



Your numbers are off although the massacres of blacks by Hitler
are well documented and tragic.

see for example:

http://www.airpower.au.af.mil/airchronicles/bookrev/scheck.html

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/14/10 05:27 PM

jews do not network any more effectively than christians, buddhists, hindus, sihks, athests or muslims...

laugh whoa

sounds like more conspiratorial suspicious silliness to me

drinker


its no conspiracy there, suggesting that jewish people do something others can learn from is actually a compliment

traditions which pass males into manhood and involve MONEY and life and emotional maturity lessons to complete, for instance, set up an excellent source of networking for the jewish youth that leaves them a step ahead of many other religious youth without such traditions

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Sun 11/14/10 06:42 PM
Stating,"Satanists Jews" is a gross generalization spewed from an extremist separatist, Muslim, Fairycan, AKA, Eugene.

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/15/10 12:12 AM

Stating,"Satanists Jews" is a gross generalization spewed from an extremist separatist, Muslim, Fairycan, AKA, Eugene.



so would unpatriotic americans mean all americans, and if so, why qualify with the adjective UNPATRIOTIC?


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Mon 11/15/10 05:18 AM


Stating,"Satanists Jews" is a gross generalization spewed from an extremist separatist, Muslim, Fairycan, AKA, Eugene.



so would unpatriotic americans mean all americans, and if so, why qualify with the adjective UNPATRIOTIC?



By your standards for Eugene and his Nation of Extremists Muslims, the Klan has many great things and wisdoms for our country.

"There is a race war against whites. But our people - my white brothers and sisters - will stay committed to a non-violent resolution. That resolution must consist of solidarity in white communities around the world. The hatred for our children and their future is growing and is being fueled every single day. Stay firm in your convictions. Keep loving your heritage and keep witnessing to others that there is a better way than a war torn, violent, wicked, socialist, new world order. That way is the Christian way - law and order - love of family - love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent America! Be faithful my fellow believers. "

National Director of The Knights

Pastor Thomas Robb

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Mon 11/15/10 05:27 AM
just checking to make sure everyone is doing their job..carry on

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Mon 11/15/10 06:56 AM
It's far easier and more satisfying to say that Jews are blessed with evil cunning by Satan than it is to admit that Jews are blessed with wealth by God.

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Mon 11/15/10 09:15 AM

It's far easier and more satisfying to say that Jews are blessed with evil cunning by Satan than it is to admit that Jews are blessed with wealth by God.



Ive heard it said many believe there cant be God without the Devil or good without evil,, so isnt it logical to consider that (in the history of men)the jewish have had both blessings and curses, been both pleasing and displeasing to God?,,,or are we to assume they are a perfect people with no sins to atone for?

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Mon 11/15/10 09:16 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 11/15/10 09:17 AM



Stating,"Satanists Jews" is a gross generalization spewed from an extremist separatist, Muslim, Fairycan, AKA, Eugene.



so would unpatriotic americans mean all americans, and if so, why qualify with the adjective UNPATRIOTIC?



By your standards for Eugene and his Nation of Extremists Muslims, the Klan has many great things and wisdoms for our country.

"There is a race war against whites. But our people - my white brothers and sisters - will stay committed to a non-violent resolution. That resolution must consist of solidarity in white communities around the world. The hatred for our children and their future is growing and is being fueled every single day. Stay firm in your convictions. Keep loving your heritage and keep witnessing to others that there is a better way than a war torn, violent, wicked, socialist, new world order. That way is the Christian way - law and order - love of family - love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent America! Be faithful my fellow believers. "

National Director of The Knights

Pastor Thomas Robb



another example of a broken clock being right at least twice a day,,the Pastor is right although its hard to believe that a majority of white people are waging war against themself,,the history of america doesnt quite bear witness to that view

but he is welcome to it

and as long as he truly believes in uplifting family and community without harming or oppressing others to do it...i can agree with him

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Mon 11/15/10 09:19 AM


It's far easier and more satisfying to say that Jews are blessed with evil cunning by Satan than it is to admit that Jews are blessed with wealth by God.



Ive heard it said many believe there cant be God without the Devil or good without evil,, so isnt it logical to consider that (in the history of men)the jewish have had both blessings and curses, been both pleasing and displeasing to God?,,,or are we to assume they are a perfect people with no sins to atone for?


Absolutely, they were blessed and cursed throughout the Old Testament. How would greater wealth be a curse?

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/15/10 10:56 AM



It's far easier and more satisfying to say that Jews are blessed with evil cunning by Satan than it is to admit that Jews are blessed with wealth by God.



Ive heard it said many believe there cant be God without the Devil or good without evil,, so isnt it logical to consider that (in the history of men)the jewish have had both blessings and curses, been both pleasing and displeasing to God?,,,or are we to assume they are a perfect people with no sins to atone for?


Absolutely, they were blessed and cursed throughout the Old Testament. How would greater wealth be a curse?



Ask the Lindsay Lohans or Charlie Sheens of the world,

money isnt the blessing or the villain,,,

s1owhand's photo
Mon 11/15/10 11:55 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Mon 11/15/10 12:03 PM


jews do not network any more effectively than christians, buddhists, hindus, sihks, athests or muslims...

laugh whoa

sounds like more conspiratorial suspicious silliness to me

drinker


its no conspiracy there, suggesting that jewish people do something others can learn from is actually a compliment

traditions which pass males into manhood and involve MONEY and life and emotional maturity lessons to complete, for instance, set up an excellent source of networking for the jewish youth that leaves them a step ahead of many other religious youth without such traditions


The problem I have with this is the suggestion that Jews value
money and have some special collaboration neither of which is
true.

It is true that the bible teaches the importance of education
of children, charity and ethical behavior and that Jews (like
Christians and Muslims) all follow the same basic core traditions
and value these things. Jews may be more effective in transmitting
these values to their kids than Muslims or Christians but I doubt
that is really the case. There are a lot of Christian and Muslim
youth organizations also and I think they are as effective at
organizing and teaching as the Jewish ones for example.

I would be concerned about false stereotypes of Jews as cheap
or money obsessed or somehow especially organized because this
feeds into the same kind of stereotypes professed by antisemites
like Farrakhan.

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Mon 11/15/10 01:24 PM



jews do not network any more effectively than christians, buddhists, hindus, sihks, athests or muslims...

laugh whoa

sounds like more conspiratorial suspicious silliness to me

drinker


its no conspiracy there, suggesting that jewish people do something others can learn from is actually a compliment

traditions which pass males into manhood and involve MONEY and life and emotional maturity lessons to complete, for instance, set up an excellent source of networking for the jewish youth that leaves them a step ahead of many other religious youth without such traditions


The problem I have with this is the suggestion that Jews value
money and have some special collaboration neither of which is
true.

It is true that the bible teaches the importance of education
of children, charity and ethical behavior and that Jews (like
Christians and Muslims) all follow the same basic core traditions
and value these things. Jews may be more effective in transmitting
these values to their kids than Muslims or Christians but I doubt
that is really the case. There are a lot of Christian and Muslim
youth organizations also and I think they are as effective at
organizing and teaching as the Jewish ones for example.

I would be concerned about false stereotypes of Jews as cheap
or money obsessed or somehow especially organized because this
feeds into the same kind of stereotypes professed by antisemites
like Farrakhan.



I guess, much like Farrakhans speaking, it depends upon personal interpretation. I can say hand over heart that I was not intending to imply anything about valuing MONEY. Networking is about getting to know people and reaching out to others to afford them opportunities they may not otherwise have or know about. Money is a fact of life and knowing how to handle it and manage it gives us better opportunities in society. I feel the Jewish tradition does alot to instill such knowledge in their followers at a young age and does even more to reach out to those youth to extend similar opportunities to the ones their elders have.

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Mon 11/15/10 01:30 PM



Stating,"Satanists Jews" is a gross generalization spewed from an extremist separatist, Muslim, Fairycan, AKA, Eugene.



so would unpatriotic americans mean all americans, and if so, why qualify with the adjective UNPATRIOTIC?



By your standards for Eugene and his Nation of Extremists Muslims, the Klan has many great things and wisdoms for our country.

"There is a race war against whites. But our people - my white brothers and sisters - will stay committed to a non-violent resolution. That resolution must consist of solidarity in white communities around the world. The hatred for our children and their future is growing and is being fueled every single day. Stay firm in your convictions. Keep loving your heritage and keep witnessing to others that there is a better way than a war torn, violent, wicked, socialist, new world order. That way is the Christian way - law and order - love of family - love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent America! Be faithful my fellow believers. "

National Director of The Knights

Pastor Thomas Robb


Yes, for me its usually not about the author and their character nor their history, but about their words and what they are really saying at some point in time (Unless there is a danger of someone becoming a 'follower' of someone who advocates wrong...)

I both agree and disagree with this guy.

I agree that there are race skirmishes against whites, but I disagree that there is much of a war. His first statement is intended to create fear, not to be an accurate assessment of reality. I agree that solidarity in a community can be beneficial, but I think that drawing lines at racial boundaries is usually both immoral and counterproductive

I agree that there are better ways than war, violence, socialism; I see value in law and order. Loving of family and loving your nation can motivate goodness, and they can be taken to far.


So yes, willing, there as klanspeople who advocate good things.

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Mon 11/15/10 01:31 PM

just checking to make sure everyone is doing their job..carry on

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Mon 11/15/10 01:37 PM
How would greater wealth be a curse?


I'm deliberately taking this out of context. For those who have issues with some vices, having greater wealth makes it easier for them to indulge those vices, harming themselves and the people around them. Have greater wealth can arouse the resentment of others, create causes of conflict, and interfere with pre-existing relationships. If you are attached to your wealth, then you worry about losing it and you have more stress in your life. Have greater wealth can diminish one's motivation for material accomplishment, and if they give in to sloth, then they lose a source of satisfaction and self worth from their life.