Topic: Farrakhans Ministry of Hate Exposed
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Thu 10/28/10 10:51 AM

no, that is your logic,, because person B has done bad things and person A has shown support for person B ,that person A must also be supporting the bad things person B has done

as previously posted, America erected memorials to Jefferson and Lincoln but I doubt it couldnt be argued (by some) that they said and did things that were beyond defense,,,,yet they are memorialized and SUPPORTED for those OTHER things which were considered 'great'


NOTHING and I mean NOTHING that Robert Mugabe has done could ever make up for the single rape of a single woman or the murder of a single person, little less the reign of horrors he has brought since coming to office. Before Mugabe, Zimbabwe was a rich nation and called "Africa's bread basket", because of the massive surplus of grains that they sold every year. Now they are starving country with worthless money wherein white women are kidnapped and put into rape camps, white people have no property or civil rights and political opponents are murdered.

There is such a far cry from someone SAYING something that you are offended by and actually authorizing RAPE, TORTURE, THEFT AND MURDER.

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Thu 10/28/10 10:53 AM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 10/28/10 10:54 AM


no, that is your logic,, because person B has done bad things and person A has shown support for person B ,that person A must also be supporting the bad things person B has done

as previously posted, America erected memorials to Jefferson and Lincoln but I doubt it couldnt be argued (by some) that they said and did things that were beyond defense,,,,yet they are memorialized and SUPPORTED for those OTHER things which were considered 'great'


NOTHING and I mean NOTHING that Robert Mugabe has done could ever make up for the single rape of a single woman or the murder of a single person, little less the reign of horrors he has brought since coming to office. Before Mugabe, Zimbabwe was a rich nation and called "Africa's bread basket", because of the massive surplus of grains that they sold every year. Now they are starving country with worthless money wherein white women are kidnapped and put into rape camps, white people have no property or civil rights and political opponents are murdered.

There is such a far cry from someone SAYING something that you are offended by and actually authorizing RAPE, TORTURE, THEFT AND MURDER.



and yet America supports Abraham Lincoln(who allegedly raped sally hemmings) and Israel (who also suffers from reports of torturing and raping and stealing from and murdering the Palestinians while occupying their land)

Farrakahn did not authorize or imply that he supported authorizing rape, torture, or murder,,,as to 'theft', see the above paragraph

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Thu 10/28/10 02:37 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Thu 10/28/10 02:57 PM



no, that is your logic,, because person B has done bad things and person A has shown support for person B ,that person A must also be supporting the bad things person B has done

as previously posted, America erected memorials to Jefferson and Lincoln but I doubt it couldnt be argued (by some) that they said and did things that were beyond defense,,,,yet they are memorialized and SUPPORTED for those OTHER things which were considered 'great'


NOTHING and I mean NOTHING that Robert Mugabe has done could ever make up for the single rape of a single woman or the murder of a single person, little less the reign of horrors he has brought since coming to office. Before Mugabe, Zimbabwe was a rich nation and called "Africa's bread basket", because of the massive surplus of grains that they sold every year. Now they are starving country with worthless money wherein white women are kidnapped and put into rape camps, white people have no property or civil rights and political opponents are murdered.

There is such a far cry from someone SAYING something that you are offended by and actually authorizing RAPE, TORTURE, THEFT AND MURDER.



and yet America supports Abraham Lincoln(who allegedly raped sally hemmings) and Israel (who also suffers from reports of torturing and raping and stealing from and murdering the Palestinians while occupying their land)


1) The rumor is about Thomas Jefferson, not Abraham Lincoln.
2) I've never heard anyone claim that Jefferson was raping Sally. That's rather hard to believe, because when she was in France with Jefferson, she wasn't considered a slave (because they didn't have slavery) and she voluntarily returned to America with Jefferson.
3) You should watch Pallywood.

Sally Hemmings was nurse to Jefferson, his son and his wife while they were sick. Jefferson lost both his wife and son to the disease and almost died himself. Sally had helped raise and care for the son and had grown up with Jefferson's wife. I'm sure they were both suffering and IF anything happened between them, it grew out of natural feelings of sympathy, compassion and shared loss.


Farrakahn did not authorize or imply that he supported authorizing rape, torture, or murder,,,as to 'theft', see the above paragraph


Yes, he did.

The Natural Enemy

Here, in this quote, we see him exhorting the Zimbabwe government to take the land from the white farmers in Zimbabwe, which had been guaranteed when the new Zimbabwe government was founded.

But what does God say? He’s saying take your attention and put it on the land where you are free to travel and free this land. Free it, so that the children will have a great future.



Here we see Farrakhan's derangement in full bloom.

The White man is a natural enemy to the Black man. And if you don’t see that now, I don’t know when you will ever see it. I am not a racist; I hate racism, and I would never attempt to exalt one race over another, but I want to give you a perfect example of why I say the White man is the natural enemy to you. The only way you can put a natural enemy under check is that you must be strong in the nature in which God created you. Then you can check the weakness of your enemy’s nature to exploit you, supplant you and take advantage of you because of ignorance.

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Thu 10/28/10 06:44 PM




no, that is your logic,, because person B has done bad things and person A has shown support for person B ,that person A must also be supporting the bad things person B has done

as previously posted, America erected memorials to Jefferson and Lincoln but I doubt it couldnt be argued (by some) that they said and did things that were beyond defense,,,,yet they are memorialized and SUPPORTED for those OTHER things which were considered 'great'


NOTHING and I mean NOTHING that Robert Mugabe has done could ever make up for the single rape of a single woman or the murder of a single person, little less the reign of horrors he has brought since coming to office. Before Mugabe, Zimbabwe was a rich nation and called "Africa's bread basket", because of the massive surplus of grains that they sold every year. Now they are starving country with worthless money wherein white women are kidnapped and put into rape camps, white people have no property or civil rights and political opponents are murdered.

There is such a far cry from someone SAYING something that you are offended by and actually authorizing RAPE, TORTURE, THEFT AND MURDER.



and yet America supports Abraham Lincoln(who allegedly raped sally hemmings) and Israel (who also suffers from reports of torturing and raping and stealing from and murdering the Palestinians while occupying their land)


1) The rumor is about Thomas Jefferson, not Abraham Lincoln.
2) I've never heard anyone claim that Jefferson was raping Sally. That's rather hard to believe, because when she was in France with Jefferson, she wasn't considered a slave (because they didn't have slavery) and she voluntarily returned to America with Jefferson.
3) You should watch Pallywood.

Sally Hemmings was nurse to Jefferson, his son and his wife while they were sick. Jefferson lost both his wife and son to the disease and almost died himself. Sally had helped raise and care for the son and had grown up with Jefferson's wife. I'm sure they were both suffering and IF anything happened between them, it grew out of natural feelings of sympathy, compassion and shared loss.


Farrakahn did not authorize or imply that he supported authorizing rape, torture, or murder,,,as to 'theft', see the above paragraph


Yes, he did.

The Natural Enemy

Here, in this quote, we see him exhorting the Zimbabwe government to take the land from the white farmers in Zimbabwe, which had been guaranteed when the new Zimbabwe government was founded.

But what does God say? He’s saying take your attention and put it on the land where you are free to travel and free this land. Free it, so that the children will have a great future.



Here we see Farrakhan's derangement in full bloom.

The White man is a natural enemy to the Black man. And if you don’t see that now, I don’t know when you will ever see it. I am not a racist; I hate racism, and I would never attempt to exalt one race over another, but I want to give you a perfect example of why I say the White man is the natural enemy to you. The only way you can put a natural enemy under check is that you must be strong in the nature in which God created you. Then you can check the weakness of your enemy’s nature to exploit you, supplant you and take advantage of you because of ignorance.




1.Sally was 'property', ie a slave

2. the land reassignment mugabe proposed is no different than what the UN did regarding PALESTINE,,,,so its hypocritical to criticize his support of such action while standing behind the UN's decision to impose such an action,,

3. I personally dont believe in natural enemies, but if one is to take examples from 'nature'(something else I dont like to do) it is not such a unfathomable idea

much like dogs and cats are considered (by some) to be 'natural enemies',,,,not because those who believe it WANT or WISH them to be enemies but because they have OBSERVED behavior that leans towards that position

those people believe dogs and cats have to be RAISED TOGETHER and TAUGHT TO BE FAMILY, in order not to attack each other

I think FArrakhan expresses a similar sentiment for similar reasons, although I still never feel HATRED is a natural condition of anyones race(but rather individual experiences)


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Thu 10/28/10 07:02 PM
Edited by willing2 on Thu 10/28/10 07:04 PM
Wonder what individual experience he had with the jew???

Farakhan speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, 10/3/10

“How did we get a Black president? Because those Satanic Jews know the time that this is the time of your separation from them that God wants to give you a land of your own as the cornerstone of the Kingdom of God… You didn’t see when they got in the room and said ‘we have to deceive them and through them deceive the entire world’… How could they be the chosen of God and leading the world into filth and indecency?”

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Thu 10/28/10 07:05 PM

Wonder what individual experience he had with the jew???

Farakhan speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, 10/3/10

“How did we get a Black president? Because those Satanic Jews know the time that this is the time of your separation from them that God wants to give you a land of your own as the cornerstone of the Kingdom of God… You didn’t see when they got in the room and said ‘we have to deceive them and through them deceive the entire world’… How could they be the chosen of God and leading the world into filth and indecency?”


its pretty standard..always toss in a Jew for good measure..

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Thu 10/28/10 07:19 PM
Edited by willing2 on Thu 10/28/10 07:22 PM


Wonder what individual experience he had with the jew???

Farakhan speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, 10/3/10

“How did we get a Black president? Because those Satanic Jews know the time that this is the time of your separation from them that God wants to give you a land of your own as the cornerstone of the Kingdom of God… You didn’t see when they got in the room and said ‘we have to deceive them and through them deceive the entire world’… How could they be the chosen of God and leading the world into filth and indecency?”


its pretty standard..always toss in a Jew for good measure..

The ADL posted it on their site.

He hates anything that's not negro.

BTW, one of my passions is tar-black women.
They are so hot and sexy.

OOOOHH. Be back in a few!!:wink: Sumthin just came up!!laugh

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Fri 10/29/10 01:13 AM
from my observation, Farrakhan hates injustice and oppression, not jewish or white or any other 'GROUP'

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Fri 10/29/10 01:25 AM


Wonder what individual experience he had with the jew???

Farakhan speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, 10/3/10

“How did we get a Black president? Because those Satanic Jews know the time that this is the time of your separation from them that God wants to give you a land of your own as the cornerstone of the Kingdom of God… You didn’t see when they got in the room and said ‘we have to deceive them and through them deceive the entire world’… How could they be the chosen of God and leading the world into filth and indecency?”


its pretty standard..always toss in a Jew for good measure..


"I know I'm on a perilous journey, Dr. Dyson. And I know that by singling out not “all Jews”—no, no, no!—but those specific irreligious Jews, that the scripture calls “The Synagogue of Satan”; those who use their power to influence people away from The Way of God, making evil fairseeming to them.

Those irreligious Jews; and Mr. Abraham Foxman, who is like the “attack dog” for The Synagogue of Satan: I want to deal with those kinds of Jews! Not rabbis who study their scriptures and want to be good, and follow the law of Moses—no! Those are good people, and they have their reward from their Lord. But they have to speak out against these irreligious Jews, who claim they are Jews, and are they not! They blaspheme the name of a “Jew.”

A “Jew” is a good name; to be a “Jew” is to have a covenant relationship with God, in obedience to His Laws, Statutes and Commandments. And if you are a Christian, Paul gave a whole new definition for “Jew”; he said, “The Jew is not the Jew outwardly by the circumcision of the flesh. The Jew is the Jew inwardly by the circumcision of the heart.” That all the diseases of the heart may be taken away; washed clean, that we may enter a New World of Peace, Freedom, Justice and Equality."


from Farrakhan interview with Michael Dyson

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Fri 10/29/10 04:44 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 10/29/10 04:51 AM

from my observation, Farrakhan hates injustice and oppression, not jewish or white or any other 'GROUP'


His comments about jews are extremely clear and parrot the same
antisemitic false themes of media domination, banking domination,
world control conspiracies that are found in such antisemitic
jew hating publications such as Der Sturmer, the Dearborn
Independent and KKK publications. It is the same kind of
crap that is written in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion which
is an infamous completely false forged document directed at
creating and perpetuating hatred of jews for no reason.

His own words are quoted and substantiated with correct attribution
on the ADL website. Many of them as recent as a few months ago.

The theory of jewish involvement in the slave trade for example is
historically false as well and is basically aimed at more jew
bashing. He is the worst kind of antisemite and unworthy of any
of your admiration.

Of course his conspiracy theories spill out in every direction towards
white people and the government as well. This is why Obama and
everybody else denounces him so vigorously. He is a one man band
of hatred and bigotry with a megaphone.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/ford.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

http://www.kkk.bz/why2.html

http://www.adl.org/main_Nation_of_Islam/jew_hatred_as_history.htm

:tongue:

Farrakhan usually just says "jew" not "irreligious jew".
A jew by definition is someone who follows judaism as
their religion. He might as well say "irreligious christian"
or "irreligious muslim". If they are irreligious then they
are not jewish or christian or muslim.

So until he says that it has nothing to do with judaism he
is still a bigot.


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Fri 10/29/10 08:01 AM
He calls them "Satanic Jews".

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Fri 10/29/10 08:27 AM
You cannot change the mind of someone who refuses to listen to reason or evidence. Let this thread die.

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Fri 10/29/10 09:45 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 10/29/10 10:02 AM

You cannot change the mind of someone who refuses to listen to reason or evidence. Let this thread die.



I agree. Although I highly suggest those with a desire for balance read more than what the ADL writes about him and research transcripts of his speeches or interviews to decide for yourself.


There is a series of Tavis Smiley on youtube entitled WE COUNT in which Farrakhan speaks rather eloquently and honestly to the black 'agenda' which is especially uplifting to me personally(not sure if it would uplift non blacks unless they are able to be empathetic to the history of other people though)

from the [anti-semetic? anti-israelite?) bible

'I know your afflictions and your poverty--yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan' Rev 2:9

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Fri 10/29/10 10:24 AM


You cannot change the mind of someone who refuses to listen to reason or evidence. Let this thread die.



I agree. Although I highly suggest those with a desire for balance read more than what the ADL writes about him and research transcripts of his speeches or interviews to decide for yourself.


There is a series of Tavis Smiley on youtube entitled WE COUNT in which Farrakhan speaks rather eloquently and honestly to the black 'agenda' which is especially uplifting to me personally(not sure if it would uplift non blacks unless they are able to be empathetic to the history of other people though)

from the [anti-semetic? anti-israelite?) bible

'I know your afflictions and your poverty--yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan' Rev 2:9

ADL is quoting him.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Farakhan quote, his own words. "Satanic Jews".

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Fri 10/29/10 10:29 AM



You cannot change the mind of someone who refuses to listen to reason or evidence. Let this thread die.



I agree. Although I highly suggest those with a desire for balance read more than what the ADL writes about him and research transcripts of his speeches or interviews to decide for yourself.


There is a series of Tavis Smiley on youtube entitled WE COUNT in which Farrakhan speaks rather eloquently and honestly to the black 'agenda' which is especially uplifting to me personally(not sure if it would uplift non blacks unless they are able to be empathetic to the history of other people though)

from the [anti-semetic? anti-israelite?) bible

'I know your afflictions and your poverty--yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan' Rev 2:9

ADL is quoting him.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Farakhan quote, his own words. "Satanic Jews".



I never said they didnt have 'quotes'. I only suggest those with the inclination toward a BALANCE of information research the words from his mouth in the CONTEXT of which they are said,,,

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Fri 10/29/10 10:31 AM




You cannot change the mind of someone who refuses to listen to reason or evidence. Let this thread die.



I agree. Although I highly suggest those with a desire for balance read more than what the ADL writes about him and research transcripts of his speeches or interviews to decide for yourself.


There is a series of Tavis Smiley on youtube entitled WE COUNT in which Farrakhan speaks rather eloquently and honestly to the black 'agenda' which is especially uplifting to me personally(not sure if it would uplift non blacks unless they are able to be empathetic to the history of other people though)

from the [anti-semetic? anti-israelite?) bible

'I know your afflictions and your poverty--yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan' Rev 2:9

ADL is quoting him.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Farakhan quote, his own words. "Satanic Jews".



I never said they didnt have 'quotes'. I only suggest those with the inclination toward a BALANCE of information research the words from his mouth in the CONTEXT of which they are said,,,

What good reason would he have to call jews satanic???laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Fri 10/29/10 10:33 AM





You cannot change the mind of someone who refuses to listen to reason or evidence. Let this thread die.



I agree. Although I highly suggest those with a desire for balance read more than what the ADL writes about him and research transcripts of his speeches or interviews to decide for yourself.


There is a series of Tavis Smiley on youtube entitled WE COUNT in which Farrakhan speaks rather eloquently and honestly to the black 'agenda' which is especially uplifting to me personally(not sure if it would uplift non blacks unless they are able to be empathetic to the history of other people though)

from the [anti-semetic? anti-israelite?) bible

'I know your afflictions and your poverty--yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan' Rev 2:9

ADL is quoting him.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Farakhan quote, his own words. "Satanic Jews".



I never said they didnt have 'quotes'. I only suggest those with the inclination toward a BALANCE of information research the words from his mouth in the CONTEXT of which they are said,,,

What good reason would he have to call jews satanic???laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh



the same 'good' reason our society has for labeling terrorists 'muslim'


supposedly terrorist muslim is not an enditement against all muslims, but those who behaved in a certain way

likewise, a satanic jew is not an enditement against all jews, just those who behaved (historically) in a certain way

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Fri 10/29/10 10:50 AM
David Duke did a lot of good things for white folks.

I would never support or do battle for him because of the hate he has for others.

I cannot defend one word or action of farakhn for the same hate he has.

The two have the same evil ideals.

I refuse to defend demons and their evil ways.

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Fri 10/29/10 10:52 AM

David Duke did a lot of good things for white folks.

I would never support or do battle for him because of the hate he has for others.

I cannot defend one word or action of farakhn for the same hate he has.

The two have the same evil ideals.

I refuse to defend demons and their evil ways.


and it is, respectfully, your perogative to choose whom you will define as a demon and what effort you will(or wont) take to find out WHO they really are,,

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Thu 11/04/10 10:09 AM
Interview with Al Sharpton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyBudknJ0Aw