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I think "satanist Jews" is pretttty clear.
 Don't need no psychobabble to see dat. 
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I think "satanist Jews" is pretttty clear. Don't need no psychobabble to see dat. yep, clear to me too,, one adjctive describing a subset of a group(the noun) like, abusive men, or loose women,,,,,etc,,, |
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Edited by
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so, what is up with all the "hate" hate hate speech...
there really is no hate, unless it be first be believed in and so decreed by a general consensus of humans... yes, obviously we have a general consensus hate exist, but the more focus on what is HATE, create more hate... the more things human look at, and hollar hate, the more hate be created right? if any "hate" were ever to be reduced on planet earth, first the word hate itself would have to be declared as meaningless. as the word in itself is totally subjective... so, it creates more agurment and accustaion, of other's hating, and since it be subjective, so of no possible solution, and so ONLY possible to create more discord, lol... omg... i just remebered... now, in haste to erase hate, we have new laws based upon the word "hate" itself, as in hate speech and hate crime laws... so, we are in even deeper doggy doo doo shitzolia now, since there are more subjective things now deemed as tangible's that are but subjective... so, more to disagree about, so more hate... hum... humans are such a dumbselffuccking brilliant species. lol... society has to be redirected to erase hate, away from the POWER OF WORDS... that is the only way less hate could be created... but, governments are now prosecuting crimes based upon whether they be "hate" crimes or not? what a joke, that this shall create more peacefulness, or less hate, amoung mankind... it has no choice but to expidite the creation of hate itself, even expidentially, in an explosive short amount of time. intentional physical bodily harm to another be physical bodily harm, no matter what color they be, or what words were spoken. now, we have it so fuccked up, that the value of a white man and a black man is even more distorted... with new hate laws, it got even more illogical, or subjective, as creating a different value of life based upon color, as crime against a minority cost self more, so that life was deemed as more valuable than another... huh... yeppers... fuccked for sure... lol... if a black man speak anything against a belief, or a practice, of a white man, he may be a racist, and no way to prove he is not, as all proof would be subjective as well, and the other way around... hum... thats a crossfire, that can only get larger each day... hum... our very own pride and joy self created catch 22, and 44, and 66...  lol... less agreement, so less equal value, of course... because now even the laws being passed are not based in any equal at all, just ignorant notions based upon feelings of "stopping hate"... total fucckingselffuccking unsanity... lol... yep... screwed royally... without more simple, so easier agreement, there shall always be discord, which breeds more and more "hate"... either the world is going to go into extreme communism, or we are going to have to rework all of our laws, as all our own past words, that we made up, led to the very creation of so much "subjective", which just simply cannot exist within government, or it can only head one way... towards a total police controlled state, and that then leads to war against the controlling authority, and that leads to what hitler created... we are so fuccker fuccked fucckerst fuccked... lol... to actually stop the progression of such, all would have to be reversed, all but what is scientific, which is supposed to be what is not subjective... OMFG. but, how much of science is subjective... for each scientific study, or finding, another soon proves the last as not the most accurate... so, all that is left is but the most rudimentary elements... oh... my... but every human word is SUBJECTIVE, if it does not match a concured belief of all... and that is not possible? we do have lots of concurment on belief... the names of colors... the ways of math most can agree on... seems that about it... damn... yep, we are ****ed... we need some aliens to show up or something, lol.... maybe that distract humans long enough to stop defining themself subjectively into their own abyss... are perhaps a comet, to make all people have to work to save all buts, instead of just some... damn... not many things could a actually stop the self defined and self induced downward spiral of human civilization... war, but then that gets too messy... with so many nice weapons these days... perhaps a big flood, to help everybody join together, to not care if it be a anti semetic mel gibson or farakhn that fill the sand bags, lol.... humans are all ****ing racist... hello... a racist thinks itself is better than another color of human... but all humans think of themself as better than the most around them, lol... hell, even a child think of itself as better than it's parent, or smarter than it's parent, so than BETTER THAN... so, when we made up the word "racist", is when we first created even more racism... got damnit... wtf... as soon as the word niger was deemed "bad", by stupid lawmakers, we gave the word more power to kill.... oh yea, stupid is subjective as well... wow... so its totally a subjective world? well, than what is reality? is reality subjective as well? damn, if that is, than that would mean all are unsane... ok.... ok... that means humanity has to officially dump some words... lots of them... we are taking on water, from word overload... we need a huge word condensing party, lol... gather all the smartest in the world, some from each belief, every acedemia, every science, every field, and have a word condensing party... how many words can fit into the word "hate"... fuccking tons.... so, once they all are agreed upon, by the condense party, the they are dumped.... how many words fit into the category of extreme... how many words fit into the category of love.... oh yea, thats not gonna happen, so we just plain fuccked... lol... guess thats the end of a logical subjective rap... oh, but what be logic is subjective too... sorry... lol... just a rant |
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so, what is up with all the "hate" hate hate speech... there really is no hate, unless it be first be believed in and so decreed by a general consensus of humans... yes, obviously we have a general consensus hate exist, but the more focus on what is HATE, create more hate... the more things human look at, and hollar hate, the more hate be created right? if any "hate" were ever to be reduced on planet earth, first the word hate itself would have to be declared as meaningless. as the word in itself is totally subjective... so, it creates more agurment and accustaion, of other's hating, and since it be subjective, so of no possible solution, and so ONLY possible to create more discord, lol... omg... i just remebered... now, in haste to erase hate, we have new laws based upon the word "hate" itself, as in hate speech and hate crime laws... so, we are in even deeper doggy doo doo shitzolia now, since there are more subjective things now deemed as tangible's that are but subjective... so, more to disagree about, so more hate... hum... humans are such a dumbselffuccking brilliant species. lol... society has to be redirected to erase hate, away from the POWER OF WORDS... that is the only way less hate could be created... but, governments are now prosecuting crimes based upon whether they be "hate" crimes or not? what a joke, that this shall create more peacefulness, or less hate, amoung mankind... it has no choice but to expidite the creation of hate itself, even expidentially, in an explosive short amount of time. intentional physical bodily harm to another be physical bodily harm, no matter what color they be, or what words were spoken. now, we have it so fuccked up, that the value of a white man and a black man is even more distorted... with new hate laws, it got even more illogical, or subjective, as creating a different value of life based upon color, as crime against a minority cost self more, so that life was deemed as more valuable than another... huh... yeppers... fuccked for sure... lol... if a black man speak anything against a belief, or a practice, of a white man, he may be a racist, and no way to prove he is not, as all proof would be subjective as well, and the other way around... hum... thats a crossfire, that can only get larger each day... hum... our very own pride and joy self created catch 22, and 44, and 66... lol... less agreement, so less equal value, of course... because now even the laws being passed are not based in any equal at all, just ignorant notions based upon feelings of "stopping hate"... total fucckingselffuccking unsanity... lol... yep... screwed royally... without more simple, so easier agreement, there shall always be discord, which breeds more and more "hate"... either the world is going to go into extreme communism, or we are going to have to rework all of our laws, as all our own past words, that we made up, led to the very creation of so much "subjective", which just simply cannot exist within government, or it can only head one way... towards a total police controlled state, and that then leads to war against the controlling authority, and that leads to what hitler created... we are so fuccker fuccked fucckerst fuccked... lol... to actually stop the progression of such, all would have to be reversed, all but what is scientific, which is supposed to be what is not subjective... OMFG. but, how much of science is subjective... for each scientific study, or finding, another soon proves the last as not the most accurate... so, all that is left is but the most rudimentary elements... oh... my... but every human word is SUBJECTIVE, if it does not match a concured belief of all... and that is not possible? we do have lots of concurment on belief... the names of colors... the ways of math most can agree on... seems that about it... damn... yep, we are ****ed... we need some aliens to show up or something, lol.... maybe that distract humans long enough to stop defining themself subjectively into their own abyss... are perhaps a comet, to make all people have to work to save all buts, instead of just some... damn... not many things could a actually stop the self defined and self induced downward spiral of human civilization... war, but then that gets too messy... with so many nice weapons these days... perhaps a big flood, to help everybody join together, to not care if it be a anti semetic mel gibson or farakhn that fill the sand bags, lol.... humans are all ****ing racist... hello... a racist thinks itself is better than another color of human... but all humans think of themself as better than the most around them, lol... hell, even a child think of itself as better than it's parent, or smarter than it's parent, so than BETTER THAN... so, when we made up the word "racist", is when we first created even more racism... got damnit... wtf... as soon as the word niger was deemed "bad", by stupid lawmakers, we gave the word more power to kill.... oh yea, stupid is subjective as well... wow... so its totally a subjective world? well, than what is reality? is reality subjective as well? damn, if that is, than that would mean all are unsane... ok.... ok... that means humanity has to officially dump some words... lots of them... we are taking on water, from word overload... we need a huge word condensing party, lol... gather all the smartest in the world, some from each belief, every acedemia, every science, every field, and have a word condensing party... how many words can fit into the word "hate"... fuccking tons.... so, once they all are agreed upon, by the condense party, the they are dumped.... how many words fit into the category of extreme... how many words fit into the category of love.... oh yea, thats not gonna happen, so we just plain fuccked... lol... guess thats the end of a logical subjective rap... oh, but what be logic is subjective too... sorry... lol... just a rant In acuality....for a country of supposedly religious people...that forgive love and want peace....children still carry on the war......not my children...bcs I don't teach that any individual is anymore trustworthy than another despite position ethnic background age or sex |
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well, your an exception no doubt, lol...
your a self thinker, i know... i read your posts... you use more logic than most... but i dare say it could use some refining... oops... is that ok to say, lol... of course, i know, you think my logic needs some refining too... lol... of course it does... are we not supposed to get smarter each day, or see more what is equally fair for all, which is really the root of what create all "logic" of humans... your post are probably some of the least biased... hey, thats the very reason i peeped your profile some time ago... lol... |
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well, your an exception no doubt, lol... your a self thinker, i know... i read your posts... you use more logic than most... but i dare say it could use some refining... oops... is that ok to say, lol... of course, i know, you think my logic needs some refining too... lol... of course it does... are we not supposed to get smarter each day, or see more what is equally fair for all, which is really the root of what create all "logic" of humans... your post are probably some of the least biased... hey, thats the very reason i peeped your profile some time ago... lol... LOL.....reasonable is logical and trying to even the playing field and tend to try and look at things from different aspects.....in order to make a better view it takes all the pices from all the puzzles to see the commonalities and differences to compromise as in any strength between an organization company family or governing body......our strength comes from unification between compromisable positions in my opinion and unless to u can meet expectations and make reasonable compromises the country would progress over stall |
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well, your an exception no doubt, lol... your a self thinker, i know... i read your posts... you use more logic than most... but i dare say it could use some refining... oops... is that ok to say, lol... of course, i know, you think my logic needs some refining too... lol... of course it does... are we not supposed to get smarter each day, or see more what is equally fair for all, which is really the root of what create all "logic" of humans... your post are probably some of the least biased... hey, thats the very reason i peeped your profile some time ago... lol... LOL.....reasonable is logical and trying to even the playing field and tend to try and look at things from different aspects.....in order to make a better view it takes all the pices from all the puzzles to see the commonalities and differences to compromise as in any strength between an organization company family or governing body......our strength comes from unification between compromisable positions in my opinion and unless to u can meet expectations and make reasonable compromises the country would progress over stall precisley! we need you in politics! go and straighten out the biased notions within our system. lol... will you sit on the board, at the world wide word condensing party"... lets see, that would be WWWCP yes... it shall be "the wwwcp"... lol... oh, it really won't matter... what it would take to reverse the current total pattern of logic would be impossible... i think... so far... one has to really see the root of what created something, to actually and accurately uncreate it, instead of just add to it... society is like building a car... if you build a car, and find out later the design is flawed, but since it's carrying people down the road in it, keep adding parts to modify it, soon in time, one has a car-truck-motorcycle-suv-wannabe that breaks down worse with each day... the car needs to be totally redesigned, using all the flaws of 234 years AMERICA, and, all the best of all other systems of governement, taking out all the loopholes that created all the fuel to leak out of the fuel tanks, the fuel the common purpose of humanity, not money, lol... that at this point, seems unlikey... i know, all utopian notions. but hey... perhaps planet niberu, entering our galaxy will shake things up a bit, to allow some rebuilding of our systems... it is spinning counterclockwise to us, and we really have no true knowing of how such may effect gravitational pulls on earth... i am convinced, we will have some cosmos induced changes, that will force the hand of humanity to change... ok... thats like waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off topic, lol... |
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There is no CONTEXT where antisemitism, racism and bigotry are acceptable!
Farrakhan tries to say that the people who practice the rites, rituals and teachings of judaism are not really jewish and so they are evil and despicable. But I think his line of argument is evil and despicable and so do almost all our representatives and the vast majority of the educated world including President Obama. Farrakhan might as well say that those with dark skin are not really black but they are the cause of so much evil that discrimination against them is to be encouraged. It is disgusting. |
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There is no CONTEXT where antisemitism, racism and bigotry are acceptable! Farrakhan tries to say that the people who practice the rites, rituals and teachings of judaism are not really jewish and so they are evil and despicable. But I think his line of argument is evil and despicable and so do almost all our representatives and the vast majority of the educated world including President Obama. Farrakhan might as well say that those with dark skin are not really black but they are the cause of so much evil that discrimination against them is to be encouraged. It is disgusting. shrugs....I have posted what Farrakhan has said regarding Judaism believe what you wish (Hint: Education is not the equivalent of watching news snippets,, it involves thinking critically and researching FACTS and HISTORY) |
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As a Muslim, I revere Abraham, Moses, and all the Prophets who Allah (God) sent to the children of Israel. I believe in the scriptures brought by these Prophets and the Laws of Allah (God) as expressed in the Torah. I would never refer to the Revealed Word of Allah (God) — the basis of Jewish Faith — as 'dirty' or 'gutter.' You know, Jude, as well as I, that the Revealed Word of Allah (God) comes as a Message from Allah (God) to purify us from our evil that has divided us and caused us to fall into the gutter.
Over the centuries, the evils of Christians, Jews and Muslims have dirtied their respective religions. True Faith in the laws and Teaching of Abraham, Jesus and Muhammad is not dirty, but, practices in the name of these religions can be unclean and can cause people to look upon the misrepresented religion as being unclean ..quote from Farrakhan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan#.22Gutter_religion.22 |
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from my observation, Farrakhan hates injustice and oppression, not jewish or white or any other 'GROUP' His comments about jews are extremely clear and parrot the same antisemitic false themes of media domination, banking domination, world control conspiracies that are found in such antisemitic jew hating publications such as Der Sturmer, the Dearborn Independent and KKK publications. It is the same kind of crap that is written in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion which is an infamous completely false forged document directed at creating and perpetuating hatred of jews for no reason. His own words are quoted and substantiated with correct attribution on the ADL website. Many of them as recent as a few months ago. The theory of jewish involvement in the slave trade for example is historically false as well and is basically aimed at more jew bashing. He is the worst kind of antisemite and unworthy of any of your admiration. Of course his conspiracy theories spill out in every direction towards white people and the government as well. This is why Obama and everybody else denounces him so vigorously. He is a one man band of hatred and bigotry with a megaphone. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/ford.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion http://www.kkk.bz/why2.html http://www.adl.org/main_Nation_of_Islam/jew_hatred_as_history.htm  Farrakhan usually just says "jew" not "irreligious jew". A jew by definition is someone who follows judaism as their religion. He might as well say "irreligious christian" or "irreligious muslim". If they are irreligious then they are not jewish or christian or muslim. So until he says that it has nothing to do with judaism he is still a bigot. I read widely and certainly get a balanced perspective but the man is an antisemitic bigot any way you look at him. its subjective, I see him as an anti satanic bigot (sort of like Christ was,,but I wont go there) ? ? ?... you already did. lol,, I pointed to the door, but IM not going in,,,, Yeah, like throwing a rock and hiding your hands. 
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As a Muslim, I revere Abraham, Moses, and all the Prophets who Allah (God) sent to the children of Israel. I believe in the scriptures brought by these Prophets and the Laws of Allah (God) as expressed in the Torah. I would never refer to the Revealed Word of Allah (God) — the basis of Jewish Faith — as 'dirty' or 'gutter.' You know, Jude, as well as I, that the Revealed Word of Allah (God) comes as a Message from Allah (God) to purify us from our evil that has divided us and caused us to fall into the gutter. Over the centuries, the evils of Christians, Jews and Muslims have dirtied their respective religions. True Faith in the laws and Teaching of Abraham, Jesus and Muhammad is not dirty, but, practices in the name of these religions can be unclean and can cause people to look upon the misrepresented religion as being unclean ..quote from Farrakhan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan#.22Gutter_religion.22 If this were all he wrote, I would have no problem with it. Unfortunately, he goes much further in his statements about Jews in particular but others as well. And what he says in the other voluminous writings and speeches is vile bigotry which must be exposed and repudiated. |
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As a Muslim, I revere Abraham, Moses, and all the Prophets who Allah (God) sent to the children of Israel. I believe in the scriptures brought by these Prophets and the Laws of Allah (God) as expressed in the Torah. I would never refer to the Revealed Word of Allah (God) — the basis of Jewish Faith — as 'dirty' or 'gutter.' You know, Jude, as well as I, that the Revealed Word of Allah (God) comes as a Message from Allah (God) to purify us from our evil that has divided us and caused us to fall into the gutter. Over the centuries, the evils of Christians, Jews and Muslims have dirtied their respective religions. True Faith in the laws and Teaching of Abraham, Jesus and Muhammad is not dirty, but, practices in the name of these religions can be unclean and can cause people to look upon the misrepresented religion as being unclean ..quote from Farrakhan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan#.22Gutter_religion.22 If this were all he wrote, I would have no problem with it. Unfortunately, he goes much further in his statements about Jews in particular but others as well. And what he says in the other voluminous writings and speeches is vile bigotry which must be exposed and repudiated. tough love aint easy,,,not everyone understands it or comes from the same culture he doesnt speak to APPEASE or make people happy and he has historically accurate and constructive criticism for MANY groups,,,,including black folks like myself |
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Edited by
msharmony
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As a Muslim, I revere Abraham, Moses, and all the Prophets who Allah (God) sent to the children of Israel. I believe in the scriptures brought by these Prophets and the Laws of Allah (God) as expressed in the Torah. I would never refer to the Revealed Word of Allah (God) — the basis of Jewish Faith — as 'dirty' or 'gutter.' You know, Jude, as well as I, that the Revealed Word of Allah (God) comes as a Message from Allah (God) to purify us from our evil that has divided us and caused us to fall into the gutter. Over the centuries, the evils of Christians, Jews and Muslims have dirtied their respective religions. True Faith in the laws and Teaching of Abraham, Jesus and Muhammad is not dirty, but, practices in the name of these religions can be unclean and can cause people to look upon the misrepresented religion as being unclean ..quote from Farrakhan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan#.22Gutter_religion.22 If this were all he wrote, I would have no problem with it. Unfortunately, he goes much further in his statements about Jews in particular but others as well. And what he says in the other voluminous writings and speeches is vile bigotry which must be exposed and repudiated. tough love aint easy,,,not everyone understands it or comes from the same culture he doesnt speak to APPEASE or make people happy and he has historically accurate and constructive criticism for MANY groups,,,,including black folks like myself this feels alot like the anti spanking/spanking debates I feel that, like discipline, verbal correction is a cultural issue that some get and others do not,,, |
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There is no CONTEXT where antisemitism, racism and bigotry are acceptable! I disagree. I think that black scholarships are racist, and I think they are, on the whole, a 'good thing'. More importantly, if someone hasn't thoroughly examined the context for something, and they've labelled it 'bigoted' and therefore 'evil' and then you come in and declare "There is no CONTEXT where antisemitism, racism and bigotry are acceptable" then you are encouraging that person to stop thinking, to shut down their capacity to take a fairminded look at what's really going on, whats being said and why. |
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being antisemitic is objective. he is antisemitic by his own words and actions. measurably. not a matter of opinion in this case.... As a greater lover of objectivity, I think this is a very dangerous abuse of the word 'objective'. The actually words that a person writes can be objectively observed - their meaning, their intention, their interpretation will always have a degree of subjectivity. Period. To think otherwise is a step in the direction of irrationality and delusion. |
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I think "satanist Jews" is pretttty clear. Don't need no psychobabble to see dat. Where is the psychobabble? Please, Willing, will you quote the text which you've deemed 'psychobabble'? Cause I hate it when people say completely nonsensical things based on questionable theories of mind, using 'argument from authority' - esp. when the 'authorities' are the soft-'scientists' found in psychology. So I skimmed through the last 2 pages and couldn't find any psychobabble, but maybe I missed it. Or were you just mis-using a derogatory label because its easier or more comfortable than allowing that the other person might have a valid point? yep, clear to me too,, one adjctive describing a subset of a group(the noun) like, abusive men, or loose women,,,,,etc,,, I have no idea whether he was calling jews satanic, or referring to that subset jews he views as satanic. But I so hate it when I'm talking to people who don't get this. It's so annoying when I'm making accurate, deliberately worded statements of the form [adjective] [group], in which I'm specifying the subset of the group I'm talking about - and some ****ing moron in the room is certain that I've just declared "All [group] have the quality [adjective]". Totally ****ing dumb, I enjoy my life more if I just don't talk to those people. |
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MiddelEarthing wrote:
...just like the racists here on Mingle but all they want here is to point at others while covering up their own racist ways. Good point. |
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being antisemitic is objective. he is antisemitic by his own words and actions. measurably. not a matter of opinion in this case.... As a greater lover of objectivity, I think this is a very dangerous abuse of the word 'objective'. The actually words that a person writes can be objectively observed - their meaning, their intention, their interpretation will always have a degree of subjectivity. Period. To think otherwise is a step in the direction of irrationality and delusion. You are splitting hairs. His comments are historically false and antisemitic at face value. On the contrary, I strongly wish for objectivity and rationality. Sure they are his opinions but his opinions are antisemitic. |
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There is no CONTEXT where antisemitism, racism and bigotry are acceptable! I disagree. I think that black scholarships are racist, and I think they are, on the whole, a 'good thing'. More importantly, if someone hasn't thoroughly examined the context for something, and they've labelled it 'bigoted' and therefore 'evil' and then you come in and declare "There is no CONTEXT where antisemitism, racism and bigotry are acceptable" then you are encouraging that person to stop thinking, to shut down their capacity to take a fairminded look at what's really going on, whats being said and why. I don't see black scholarships as racist. I see them as an attempt to correct for long standing historic racism by giving an opportunity. That does not imply that there is a context in which hate speech, racism, antisemitism or bigotry is tolerable much less desirable. I wish people to think. I would like them to think of the destructiveness of bigotry and hate speech such as Farrakhan's numerous hateful remarks. And, I still like rap music.
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