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Topic: Does god have faith in YOU?
AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 10/18/10 08:46 PM
Many profess faith in god.

I profess that god has faith in you...

Perhaps if you had that same unconditional faith in you...

Your path would never be dark.

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 10/18/10 08:51 PM

Many profess faith in god.

I profess that god has faith in you...

Perhaps if you had that same unconditional faith in you...

Your path would never be dark.


Yes God has faith in us. If God had no faith in us he would destroy us for there would be no purpose for us.

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 10/18/10 08:58 PM
God plays favorites...

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 10/18/10 09:16 PM

God plays favorites...


How so? We are all offered the kingdom of heaven, not segregation, no discrimination, how is that playing favourites?

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 10/18/10 09:21 PM

God plays favorites...

My god plays not favorites.

for he is with you as he is with me.

But he does not take the steps.

What steps you take will decide if you are favored by you.

God will be with you even should you step wrong and fall.

but he (in this day) expects you to get yourself back up.

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 10/18/10 09:26 PM


God plays favorites...

My god plays not favorites.

for he is with you as he is with me.

But he does not take the steps.

What steps you take will decide if you are favored by you.

God will be with you even should you step wrong and fall.

but he (in this day) expects you to get yourself back up.


seek and ye shall find.

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 10/18/10 09:28 PM


God plays favorites...


How so? We are all offered the kingdom of heaven, not segregation, no discrimination, how is that playing favourites?


Cain and Able,

the Caananites,

given time I can find a few other examples...

Besides, the Caananites were living in the chosen land long before the Jews. They really were not hurting anyone.

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 10/18/10 09:28 PM



God plays favorites...

My god plays not favorites.

for he is with you as he is with me.

But he does not take the steps.

What steps you take will decide if you are favored by you.

God will be with you even should you step wrong and fall.

but he (in this day) expects you to get yourself back up.


seek and ye shall find.


James 4:8
8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 10/18/10 09:29 PM



God plays favorites...


How so? We are all offered the kingdom of heaven, not segregation, no discrimination, how is that playing favourites?


Cain and Able,

the Caananites,

given time I can find a few other examples...

Besides, the Caananites were living in the chosen land long before the Jews. They really were not hurting anyone.


But i need you to explain why you see the father having played favourites.

2smileloudly's photo
Mon 10/18/10 09:33 PM
The prior posts in this thread all have one thing in common....
each person knows the truth about what god was thinking and what actions he did and why he did them.....
Each religious person creates his own beliefs....
Religion should be classified as a Psychosis....
an entire imaginary, delusional belief system
We can call it Religious Belief Syndrome… an acronym could be… Religious B S

Religion being totally imaginary seems like such an obvious concept..... Today's religions are true, yesterday's religions were false (mythology etc....) it is all the same...

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 10/18/10 09:37 PM

The prior posts in this thread all have one thing in common....
each person knows the truth about what god was thinking and what actions he did and why he did them.....
Each religious person creates his own beliefs....
Religion should be classified as a Psychosis....
an entire imaginary, delusional belief system
We can call it Religious Belief Syndrome… an acronym could be… Religious B S

Religion being totally imaginary seems like such an obvious concept..... Today's religions are true, yesterday's religions were false (mythology etc....) it is all the same...



Do you fear that of which you do not know? Why must you hide and run from that which you do not understand?

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 10/18/10 09:40 PM




God plays favorites...

My god plays not favorites.

for he is with you as he is with me.

But he does not take the steps.

What steps you take will decide if you are favored by you.

God will be with you even should you step wrong and fall.

but he (in this day) expects you to get yourself back up.


seek and ye shall find.


James 4:8
8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded

as were the times then, this is true.

as are the times now. God is with you from the moment you are. He is allways nigh unto you.

Seek rather the path you would travel for god will travel it with you as he travels mine.

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 10/18/10 09:42 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Mon 10/18/10 09:43 PM





God plays favorites...

My god plays not favorites.

for he is with you as he is with me.

But he does not take the steps.

What steps you take will decide if you are favored by you.

God will be with you even should you step wrong and fall.

but he (in this day) expects you to get yourself back up.


seek and ye shall find.


James 4:8
8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded

as were the times then, this is true.

as are the times now. God is with you from the moment you are. He is allways nigh unto you.

Seek rather the path you would travel for god will travel it with you as he travels mine.


It is the same God then as it is now. Nothing has changed. Draw nigh to God with your heart and mind, feelings and thinkings and the father will reveal himself to your mind touching your heart and showing you things you never imagined........... eg. draw nigh to God and he will draw nigh unto you.

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 10/18/10 09:48 PM






God plays favorites...

My god plays not favorites.

for he is with you as he is with me.

But he does not take the steps.

What steps you take will decide if you are favored by you.

God will be with you even should you step wrong and fall.

but he (in this day) expects you to get yourself back up.


seek and ye shall find.


James 4:8
8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded

as were the times then, this is true.

as are the times now. God is with you from the moment you are. He is allways nigh unto you.

Seek rather the path you would travel for god will travel it with you as he travels mine.


It is the same God then as it is now. Nothing has changed. Draw nigh to God with your heart and mind, feelings and thinkings and the father will reveal himself to your mind touching your heart and showing you things you never imagined........... eg. draw nigh to God and he will draw nigh unto you.

God is the same.

Mankind is not, for we have grown a small bit.

But your book did not.

You do not have to seek god.

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 10/18/10 09:55 PM







God plays favorites...

My god plays not favorites.

for he is with you as he is with me.

But he does not take the steps.

What steps you take will decide if you are favored by you.

God will be with you even should you step wrong and fall.

but he (in this day) expects you to get yourself back up.


seek and ye shall find.


James 4:8
8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded

as were the times then, this is true.

as are the times now. God is with you from the moment you are. He is allways nigh unto you.

Seek rather the path you would travel for god will travel it with you as he travels mine.


It is the same God then as it is now. Nothing has changed. Draw nigh to God with your heart and mind, feelings and thinkings and the father will reveal himself to your mind touching your heart and showing you things you never imagined........... eg. draw nigh to God and he will draw nigh unto you.

God is the same.

Mankind is not, for we have grown a small bit.

But your book did not.

You do not have to seek god.



God is not in the book... bible. The information on our father is there, but not the father himself. God can be found everyone. Since we have separated ourselves from our father with sin, we can't in an exact tense see him in a physical form. But you can still see him everywhere. Seeking God shows attempt to reach him, actions speak louder then words. And is why God has you seek him first before he reveals himself to you. For if God revealed himself to everyone right off the bat, people would have no other choice but to believe in him. But since we have to earn our way back into the kingdom his presence isn't given, but received through your own choice, your decisions, shows greater love if you are willing to seek him first rather then just handed to you on a silver platter.

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 10/18/10 10:02 PM
If I am attempting to 'reach' god I am not returning his faith.

I am created.

I have a purpose.

That is what I seek.

God is with me.

My seeking is witnessed and he is pleased in my faith.

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 10/18/10 10:08 PM
I must accept Jesus as my savior to get to heaven...


Can't do that!! I am accountable for my own actions.

If I must be condemned for refusing Jesus as my savior then God can kiss my backside.

If I live the live of a bad person I will reap what I sew. The best I can do is walk in grace among my fellow man as best I can even with the failings of being a mortal and a human.

Again if I am to be condemned by God for my choice then God does indeed play favorites!

That is what your very own dogma says does it not? Accept Jesus or perish?

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 10/18/10 10:11 PM

Do you fear that of which you do not know? Why must you hide and run from that which you do not understand?


No one can know God. Those who have convinced themselves that they do are the ones who are running and hiding from reality.

A belief in a God or a spiritual essence to life is entirely a matter of faith. It can be nothing more than this.

Only those who truly understand this can truly have peace of mind.

True faith is just that. You can't even begin to have faith, until you understand what it is. Faith is knowing that you can't know something but you trust that it will turn out to be true in the end.

So speaking to people in a tone that implies that they do not know something that you think you know, only reveals your own lack of faith and pure desperation to know something more than you can truly know.

Evangelism is a slap in the face to any God. You've stated several times that "There's nothing in it for God". God doesn't care whether a human is 'saved' or not. It's entirely up to the humans to save themselves by 'accepting' God's offer. And if they fail to recognize it or believe in it, then too frigging bad.

God doesn't given a damn.

But YOU DO!

As an evangelist you are more concerned with spreading the "Word of God" to try to 'save' human souls. You evidently care more about human souls than God does. You don't even TRUST God to save the righteous souls without your help. In fact, in one of Funches threads you even stated that you can't be sure if Jesus will save YOU!

If you're going to place your faith in a God please do yourself and everyone else a favor and at least pick a God that you can TRUST.


CowboyGH's photo
Mon 10/18/10 10:17 PM

I must accept Jesus as my savior to get to heaven...


Can't do that!! I am accountable for my own actions.

If I must be condemned for refusing Jesus as my savior then God can kiss my backside.

If I live the live of a bad person I will reap what I sew. The best I can do is walk in grace among my fellow man as best I can even with the failings of being a mortal and a human.

Again if I am to be condemned by God for my choice then God does indeed play favorites!

That is what your very own dogma says does it not? Accept Jesus or perish?


You don't even understand why we are to accept Jesus it does not sound like. The phrase actions speak louder then words spell it out pretty good. Ok first off, you'll agree that to work sufficiantly there needs to be laws of a kingdom, and punishment for breaking those laws. No country would work ran any other way, would be anarchy. So with that established, the kingdom of God has laid out some laws for us to abide by. Again with actions speak louder then words, when you break a law you then will be punished by this kingdom. But God offers forgiveness of our sins when we stumble and "break the law of the kingdom". And as i've repeated many times in this post, actions speak louder then words. You can say you're sorry and you won't do it again ect ect, but how is God to believe that you'll use your free will as such with just words when your previous actions have said differently? He doesn't and is why people sacrificed things for forgiveness. Eg., showing their sorry and regret through and action rather then just through words. I've said all this to show why you have to accept Jesus before you can enter into the kingdom of God. Jesus came to earth, Sacrificed his entire life for you. In the end literally sacrificed himself up for you. Thus allowing us to accept his sacrifice for our own. And with that, we are forgiven for the great sacrifice we made to our father.

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 10/18/10 10:23 PM


Do you fear that of which you do not know? Why must you hide and run from that which you do not understand?


No one can know God. Those who have convinced themselves that they do are the ones who are running and hiding from reality.

A belief in a God or a spiritual essence to life is entirely a matter of faith. It can be nothing more than this.

Only those who truly understand this can truly have peace of mind.

True faith is just that. You can't even begin to have faith, until you understand what it is. Faith is knowing that you can't know something but you trust that it will turn out to be true in the end.

So speaking to people in a tone that implies that they do not know something that you think you know, only reveals your own lack of faith and pure desperation to know something more than you can truly know.

Evangelism is a slap in the face to any God. You've stated several times that "There's nothing in it for God". God doesn't care whether a human is 'saved' or not. It's entirely up to the humans to save themselves by 'accepting' God's offer. And if they fail to recognize it or believe in it, then too frigging bad.

God doesn't given a damn.

But YOU DO!

As an evangelist you are more concerned with spreading the "Word of God" to try to 'save' human souls. You evidently care more about human souls than God does. You don't even TRUST God to save the righteous souls without your help. In fact, in one of Funches threads you even stated that you can't be sure if Jesus will save YOU!

If you're going to place your faith in a God please do yourself and everyone else a favor and at least pick a God that you can TRUST.



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A belief in a God or a spiritual essence to life is entirely a matter of faith. It can be nothing more than this.
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EVERYTHING is through a form of faith.

Do you worry about paying the bills this month?... probably not, you have FAITH that you will get them paid
Do you worry about eating tomorrow?....... probably not, you have FAITH that you will get some food tomorrow.
Do you worry that your house will be burned down when you return home? .... Probably not, you have FAITH that it is safe.
ect

There's no proof any of these things will go through the way they are suppose to, this is all possible. So why not give our father the possibility? Why have more faith in earthly things then heavenly things?


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