Topic: Does god have faith in YOU?
CowboyGH's photo
Wed 10/20/10 11:52 AM




No i will never get bored with heaven and worshipping our father and creator. I could do it and will do it with every last second of my existence.


exactly what would anyone be doing in Heaven besides worshipping God every second for all eternity ...I wonder if any believer ever thought about that...


No, praising our father in all his greatness will and would never get boring. I could just sit there for eternity worshipping our father. As i said i could and will do it every last second of my existence. If i'm blessed with eternal life before our father then i will worship him for eternity. Sitting there on my knees thanking him for every great thing he has done for all of us. Would never get tiresome or boring.


if praising God never gets boring..then you wouldn't be down here on Earth making excuses why you commit sin ....


I make no excuses of why i fail our father. I'm a disgusting human being that doesn't deserve even to pass through the thoughts of our father. I'm not even worth even a second of thought towards me and my well being. I don't deserve the food i receive every day, i don't even deserve the breath i breath every day. I'm not greater then you or any other person. I'm a pathetic failing human that needs Jesus in everything i do.

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Wed 10/20/10 11:54 AM


No people will not rebel. People will worship and praise our father for eternity. Satan didn't get tired of praising God in exacts, Satan grew an ego and thought himself to be greater then our father. Thus seen no point in worshipping him. hmmm, might that be your reason of denying him? Don't remember if it was particularly you, but i've seen posts where people are claiming to be more moral then our father and greater then he. Might that be Satan giving them these thoughts? For Satan thought the same thing.... hmmmm, see the resemblance?


Satan probably said the same thing you are saying....well at least until he got bored .....also if there were one war in Heaven..there can be another ....remember you're a Christian soldier..marching as to War


The war is between our father, Satan, and us on both sides depending on who you're referring to. Come judgement time Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire thus not causing any more trouble, thus ending the war. Not saying another war similar to this with other beings won't happen again. But this war will have ended. And it's wonderful to be on the greater side next to our father.

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Wed 10/20/10 11:59 AM
cowboygh need more posters in my thread ''its a new record'' going for biggest thread

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Wed 10/20/10 12:03 PM

cowboygh need more posters in my thread ''its a new record'' going for biggest thread


Not posting to make a record, not posting to do anything other then spread the word or our father. So i see no point in putting senseless posts in a thread to try to make it reach that. I will post in that thread if and when there is something worthy of replying to.

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Wed 10/20/10 12:05 PM
awh, but indeed, the other dimension's can be understood by the human mind...

it is but for unknowing how that prevent anything from being possible?

if one know what be the "ripcord" to exist the "small perception"?

one is a small number.

if the brain filter all data it, that it "see and hear", in it's environment, by how it shall effect "one", itself, then the smallest rolodex of knowing hath been created, the smallest filter, and definition, and mono stream of thought be created.

if, the brain switch it's own switch, pull it's own rip cord, which be "one" that appears to be the MOST VITAL UNTO SELF NATRURALLY, as HOW SHALL IT EFFECT "ME", simply created from the root drive of "self" preservation form mortal birth, and discard such knowing the good reason why, which create the drive or motivation, then in fact, in just threee days time, hence the three days time "in the belly of the whale", the three days "christ" in the ground, then a NEW FILTER, or larger perception hath been begun to be "born"...

this filter larger filter of thought grow, just as the first filter of "one" did grow since mortal birth, and hence, the more the "larger perception" or reformed mind, or renewed mind grow, THE MORE IT UNDERSTAND WHAT ACTUALLY "CREATES" THE DIMENSION'S...

for in another realm, the realm of "how doth all things effect other's", no "observation" be of the most good "tell", for an observation only but "know a name" for something, and believe itself wise because of it, but to know what created the very "named something" into existence, be of wisdom...

hence the distinction between wisdom and knowledge.

knowledge peer at a thing, and deem it "stupid", and hence believe it has more intelligence itself, or higher standing for itself, but wisdom look at something it's own brain as well "call stupid", and see's what created "stupid" into existence, and so then therefore know's how to "help it" become more, and more happy with itself, for indeed, it cannot be missed happy people harm none, nor fight to make self appear better, nor war, but rather work in happy union to advance happy for all.

for it only be that which hath lost all savour in the taste of "how shall this effect me", that begin the climb of the jacob's ladder, or the stairway to heaven, or greater knowing...

laying down self preservation, hence the "sting of death" no longer having POWER over self, or basing all about "protection from harm for self", that of course, as naturally as the first filter of "one" did create, so doth the new filter naturally create a multi-dimemsional filter, to conincide or blend or mimic the very multi dimensional EXISTENCE, and so this be only what can lay hold and to the very essence of ALL EXISTENCE, and be that which hath the "power" of greater knowing, for what one KNOW, DECIDE ALL ITSELF IS, DOES AND SPEAK, to unfold the scrolls of the sky of reality in the minds of mortals, that can create better than what was yesterday for all.

perhaps such be the scientific reason it twas said, no greater love doth one find when it lay down it's own ONE self preservation for it's friends.

peace




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Wed 10/20/10 12:34 PM



No people will not rebel. People will worship and praise our father for eternity. Satan didn't get tired of praising God in exacts, Satan grew an ego and thought himself to be greater then our father. Thus seen no point in worshipping him. hmmm, might that be your reason of denying him? Don't remember if it was particularly you, but i've seen posts where people are claiming to be more moral then our father and greater then he. Might that be Satan giving them these thoughts? For Satan thought the same thing.... hmmmm, see the resemblance?


Satan probably said the same thing you are saying....well at least until he got bored .....also if there were one war in Heaven..there can be another ....remember you're a Christian soldier..marching as to War


The war is between our father, Satan, and us on both sides depending on who you're referring to. Come judgement time Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire thus not causing any more trouble, thus ending the war. Not saying another war similar to this with other beings won't happen again. But this war will have ended. And it's wonderful to be on the greater side next to our father.


and a lot of people may find out that they weren't on the greater side of The Father...perhaps the ones that decided to claim that a man was God

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Wed 10/20/10 12:51 PM
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Wed 10/20/10 01:31 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Wed 10/20/10 01:32 PM




No people will not rebel. People will worship and praise our father for eternity. Satan didn't get tired of praising God in exacts, Satan grew an ego and thought himself to be greater then our father. Thus seen no point in worshipping him. hmmm, might that be your reason of denying him? Don't remember if it was particularly you, but i've seen posts where people are claiming to be more moral then our father and greater then he. Might that be Satan giving them these thoughts? For Satan thought the same thing.... hmmmm, see the resemblance?


Satan probably said the same thing you are saying....well at least until he got bored .....also if there were one war in Heaven..there can be another ....remember you're a Christian soldier..marching as to War


The war is between our father, Satan, and us on both sides depending on who you're referring to. Come judgement time Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire thus not causing any more trouble, thus ending the war. Not saying another war similar to this with other beings won't happen again. But this war will have ended. And it's wonderful to be on the greater side next to our father.


and a lot of people may find out that they weren't on the greater side of The Father...perhaps the ones that decided to claim that a man was God


True, but who are we to judge? And no man claimed to be God precisely that i know of. I know Jesus said "The father and I are one". But so is everyone that lives in the USA and I. We are all America, thus we are one.

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Wed 10/20/10 01:37 PM

The war is between our father, Satan, and us on both sides depending on who you're referring to. Come judgement time Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire thus not causing any more trouble, thus ending the war. Not saying another war similar to this with other beings won't happen again. But this war will have ended. And it's wonderful to be on the greater side next to our father.


I though you said that your father doesn't take sides or play favoritism. slaphead

I guess he has more wrong with him than just Alzheimer's disease.

I hope he gets well soon. flowerforyou

Send him my best well wishes.

And don't feel too bad about him. If he's as delusion as you say he's probably unaware of his pain.




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Wed 10/20/10 01:41 PM


The war is between our father, Satan, and us on both sides depending on who you're referring to. Come judgement time Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire thus not causing any more trouble, thus ending the war. Not saying another war similar to this with other beings won't happen again. But this war will have ended. And it's wonderful to be on the greater side next to our father.


I though you said that your father doesn't take sides or play favoritism. slaphead

I guess he has more wrong with him than just Alzheimer's disease.

I hope he gets well soon. flowerforyou

Send him my best well wishes.

And don't feel too bad about him. If he's as delusion as you say he's probably unaware of his pain.






Our FATHER doesn't take sides. The PEOPLE of this world do though. We either choose to follow his laws, or deny his laws. The people choose what side of it they wish to be, not our father.

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Wed 10/20/10 03:18 PM





No people will not rebel. People will worship and praise our father for eternity. Satan didn't get tired of praising God in exacts, Satan grew an ego and thought himself to be greater then our father. Thus seen no point in worshipping him. hmmm, might that be your reason of denying him? Don't remember if it was particularly you, but i've seen posts where people are claiming to be more moral then our father and greater then he. Might that be Satan giving them these thoughts? For Satan thought the same thing.... hmmmm, see the resemblance?


Satan probably said the same thing you are saying....well at least until he got bored .....also if there were one war in Heaven..there can be another ....remember you're a Christian soldier..marching as to War


The war is between our father, Satan, and us on both sides depending on who you're referring to. Come judgement time Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire thus not causing any more trouble, thus ending the war. Not saying another war similar to this with other beings won't happen again. But this war will have ended. And it's wonderful to be on the greater side next to our father.


and a lot of people may find out that they weren't on the greater side of The Father...perhaps the ones that decided to claim that a man was God


True, but who are we to judge? And no man claimed to be God precisely that i know of. I know Jesus said "The father and I are one". But so is everyone that lives in the USA and I. We are all America, thus we are one.


I didn't say a Man claimed to be God..I said those that claim that a Man is God probably is not on the greater side of God

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Wed 10/20/10 03:20 PM



The war is between our father, Satan, and us on both sides depending on who you're referring to. Come judgement time Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire thus not causing any more trouble, thus ending the war. Not saying another war similar to this with other beings won't happen again. But this war will have ended. And it's wonderful to be on the greater side next to our father.


I though you said that your father doesn't take sides or play favoritism. slaphead

I guess he has more wrong with him than just Alzheimer's disease.

I hope he gets well soon. flowerforyou

Send him my best well wishes.

And don't feel too bad about him. If he's as delusion as you say he's probably unaware of his pain.






Our FATHER doesn't take sides. The PEOPLE of this world do though. We either choose to follow his laws, or deny his laws. The people choose what side of it they wish to be, not our father.


God has chosen people...that pretty much sounds like he is taking sides

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Wed 10/20/10 03:50 PM

“There’s no longer evidence for a need of God, even less of Christ. The so-called traditional churches look like they are dying.”
The author of this quote was Pope Benedict XVI.

"Man is the only animal that has the true religion--several of them" Mark Twain

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason" Benjamin Franklin

Mikhail Aleksandrovich Bakunin (1814-1876)wrote:
People go to church for the same reasons they go to a tavern: to stupefy themselves, to forget their misery, to imagine themselves, for a few minutes anyway, free and happy.

Satan, like Jesus, is imaginary.. we make this stuff up in our minds as we go.....
I would define myself as a Humanist, believing in science, logic and basic kindness over blind faith. "My religion is to live and die without regret" (Milarepa). That one quote sums up my belief system.

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Wed 10/20/10 04:53 PM

Our FATHER doesn't take sides. The PEOPLE of this world do though. We either choose to follow his laws, or deny his laws. The people choose what side of it they wish to be, not our father.


Don't be blaming your bigotry and prejudices on God.

It's the Christians who are the warmongers in the name of God.

It's the Christians who spread hate in the name of Jesus.

It's the Christians who judge others to be "ungodly".

It's the Christians who create divisiveness in name of God.

Well, the Jews and Muslims are almost as guilty too, but they all worship the rumors of a jealous egotistical male-chauvinistic fable.

If these people could just get their heads out of their "Zeus become Jesus" tabloids that they call their "Holy Books" they might actually begin to recognize that it's actually their bigotries that cause most of the warmongering that's going on in this world.

If Christianity has a "saving grace" at all, it's completely lost on you Cowboy. Although, I've been all through it, and to be perfectly honest it's not your fault because the doctrine has no saving grace at all. There's nothing there worthy of salvaging.

It's better to just recognize that' at the very best, there were some fair teachings in the words of Jesus who was most likely a Mahayana Buddhist. And there is no value at all in the rumors that were created by the authors of the New Testament or the idea that Jesus was a demigod born half-human, and half-god, like so many other Mediterranean myths. That's such a common theme among those ancient mythologies how can you not see the fallacy in that idea? huh

You have to truly ignore reality to not see how common these kinds of fables were in that area of the world. There's no reason to believe any of them at all.


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Wed 10/20/10 05:12 PM


cowboygh need more posters in my thread ''its a new record'' going for biggest thread


Not posting to make a record, not posting to do anything other then spread the word or our father. So i see no point in putting senseless posts in a thread to try to make it reach that. I will post in that thread if and when there is something worthy of replying to.

woah cowboy, is this the way you respond to someone asking for your help? maybe this was your chance to plant a seed. i'm sorry, but when someone asks something of you, are you to deny their request because of what you believe, or help them because of what you believe?

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Wed 10/20/10 07:08 PM



cowboygh need more posters in my thread ''its a new record'' going for biggest thread


Not posting to make a record, not posting to do anything other then spread the word or our father. So i see no point in putting senseless posts in a thread to try to make it reach that. I will post in that thread if and when there is something worthy of replying to.

woah cowboy, is this the way you respond to someone asking for your help? maybe this was your chance to plant a seed. i'm sorry, but when someone asks something of you, are you to deny their request because of what you believe, or help them because of what you believe?

good point.

Posting your beliefs is senseless. How do you know cowboy? Perhaps a 'senseless' posts in a new thread will reach the one person you are trying to reach.:tongue:

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Wed 10/20/10 07:33 PM


Our FATHER doesn't take sides. The PEOPLE of this world do though. We either choose to follow his laws, or deny his laws. The people choose what side of it they wish to be, not our father.


Don't be blaming your bigotry and prejudices on God.

It's the Christians who are the warmongers in the name of God.

It's the Christians who spread hate in the name of Jesus.

It's the Christians who judge others to be "ungodly".

It's the Christians who create divisiveness in name of God.

Well, the Jews and Muslims are almost as guilty too, but they all worship the rumors of a jealous egotistical male-chauvinistic fable.

If these people could just get their heads out of their "Zeus become Jesus" tabloids that they call their "Holy Books" they might actually begin to recognize that it's actually their bigotries that cause most of the warmongering that's going on in this world.

If Christianity has a "saving grace" at all, it's completely lost on you Cowboy. Although, I've been all through it, and to be perfectly honest it's not your fault because the doctrine has no saving grace at all. There's nothing there worthy of salvaging.

It's better to just recognize that' at the very best, there were some fair teachings in the words of Jesus who was most likely a Mahayana Buddhist. And there is no value at all in the rumors that were created by the authors of the New Testament or the idea that Jesus was a demigod born half-human, and half-god, like so many other Mediterranean myths. That's such a common theme among those ancient mythologies how can you not see the fallacy in that idea? huh

You have to truly ignore reality to not see how common these kinds of fables were in that area of the world. There's no reason to believe any of them at all.




It's the Christians who are the warmongers in the name of God.

It's the Christians who spread hate in the name of Jesus.

It's the Christians who judge others to be "ungodly".

It's the Christians who create divisiveness in name of God.
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Christians may have in the past done some horrible terrible waring form of actions in the past, but that is their actions which they will be judged on. The Christian faith in general does NOT teach of doing this. Teaches us to turn the other cheek. Turning the other cheek can not be done if you are waring with them, now can it? No, therefore these people that claimed to be Christian was not displaying the Christian faith in a correct manner at all.
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You have to truly ignore reality to not see how common these kinds of fables were in that area of the world. There's no reason to believe any of them at all.
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Reality is merely perspective. Reality isn't a substantial thing, it differs from person to person. your reality may not be the same as mine, nor is mine the same as anyone else. In my reality 32 degrees is pretty dag gone cold, in someone else's reality 32 degrees may be comfortable. And so on. EVERYONE's reality is different. But nevertheless there is still a bottom line reality for ALL of us. As in my example 32 degrees is literally freezing cold no matter which way you want to turn that coin.
In your reality God is a myth, in mine God is our father.
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If Christianity has a "saving grace" at all, it's completely lost on you Cowboy. Although, I've been all through it, and to be perfectly honest it's not your fault because the doctrine has no saving grace at all. There's nothing there worthy of salvaging.
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Are you saying you're not worth being saved from eternal punishment? Because that is what the saving grace aka salvation is for. So if you feel this way, I can understand why you don't wish to believe in the bible.

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Wed 10/20/10 07:35 PM
It would seem from my experiences that the goddess has a lot of faith in me. And, slowly, I gain faith in myself.

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Wed 10/20/10 07:36 PM




cowboygh need more posters in my thread ''its a new record'' going for biggest thread


Not posting to make a record, not posting to do anything other then spread the word or our father. So i see no point in putting senseless posts in a thread to try to make it reach that. I will post in that thread if and when there is something worthy of replying to.

woah cowboy, is this the way you respond to someone asking for your help? maybe this was your chance to plant a seed. i'm sorry, but when someone asks something of you, are you to deny their request because of what you believe, or help them because of what you believe?

good point.

Posting your beliefs is senseless. How do you know cowboy? Perhaps a 'senseless' posts in a new thread will reach the one person you are trying to reach.:tongue:


Discussions about our father heaven and the son are serious discussion. It's not a light discussion to make a joke of or make some pointless goal of making a record for postings.

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Wed 10/20/10 08:00 PM



No people will not rebel. People will worship and praise our father for eternity. Satan didn't get tired of praising God in exacts, Satan grew an ego and thought himself to be greater then our father. Thus seen no point in worshipping him. hmmm, might that be your reason of denying him? Don't remember if it was particularly you, but i've seen posts where people are claiming to be more moral then our father and greater then he. Might that be Satan giving them these thoughts? For Satan thought the same thing.... hmmmm, see the resemblance?


Satan probably said the same thing you are saying....well at least until he got bored .....also if there were one war in Heaven..there can be another ....remember you're a Christian soldier..marching as to War


The war is between our father, Satan, and us on both sides depending on who you're referring to. Come judgement time Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire thus not causing any more trouble, thus ending the war. Not saying another war similar to this with other beings won't happen again. But this war will have ended. And it's wonderful to be on the greater side next to our father.


God had to have been board to make an enemy he could easily beat. God made everything. God is everything. God has to be both good and evil. Again why does God even need the devil in the first place? God is too busy playing puppet master?

Supposedly Satan LIVES In the lake of fire. Now here is a question, if the devil is super powerful badazzed in the first place what would the devil have to fear in the lake of fire? The heat? PLEASE! WE fear fire. That is becasue we equate fire with death and being consumed. I seriously doubt the devil has any reason to fear that. Supposedly the devil has been around since the beginning and likewise is an immortal. Hell, if I wanted to screw with an immortal I would send them to true oblivion where there is nothing and let them be there all alone in utter darkness.
THAT IS REAL HELL!