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steralization is different than birth control and good for you for taking care of you and yours.
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You can sure see all the prejudice against the poor people of this county by what they say.
First untruth=all poor people are lazy Second untruth=all poor people are criminals Third untruth, and a really stupid one= all poor people try to make other mouths to feed to get more money from the government 
All poor people are just like all non poor people, they just have less or no money. That is the only difference. To classify them as lazy breeding criminals is really a sick ideology. It is an untrue hate tactic. Hatemongering. |
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steralization is different than birth control and good for you for taking care of you and yours.  ???
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You can sure see all the prejudice against the poor people of this county by what they say. First untruth=all poor people are lazy Second untruth=all poor people are criminals Third untruth, and a really stupid one= all poor people try to make other mouths to feed to get more money from the government
All poor people are just like all non poor people, they just have less or no money. That is the only difference. To classify them as lazy breeding criminals is really a sick ideology. It is an untrue hate tactic. Hatemongering. I have said that there are some people who only use welfare for what it is, a stop gap between jobs. Most (about a good 60 to 75%) of the people on welfare have no motivation to do anything to better their situation. That leaves the other 35 to 40% with the bad rap the slackers give them. You are using this to justify your personal beliefs in what hate mongering is. My attitude is dealing with the problem like I would deal with a drug addict, No sympathy, no compassion, no BS! The whole "This is hate-mongering" argument is just like being a codependent. You think sympathy and compassion are the answer when it clearly promotes the problem. Sorry but no sympathy for the poor here! And I am one of them so  .
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PS People should not have kids if they cannot afford to.
SO THERE! |
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the welfare debate is a distraction,, five percent of us will ALWAYS be unemployed and our families will still need to eat
Under the Welfare Reform Act, the following rules apply: Most recipients are required to find jobs within two years of first receiving welfare payments. Most recipients are allowed to receive welfare payments for a total of no more than five years. The states are allowed to establish "family caps" that prevent mothers of babies born while the mother is already on welfare from receiving additional benefits. ..theres the INCENTIVE,,a time limit and then you are OFF,,, results? According to the independent Brookings Institute, the nationwide welfare caseload declined about 60 percent between 1994 and 2004, and the percentage of U.S. children on welfare is now lower than it has been since at least 1970. In addition, Census Bureau data show that between 1993 and 2000, the percentage of low-income, single mothers with a job grew from 58 percent to nearly 75 percent, an increase of almost 30 percent. In summary, the Brookings Institute states, "Clearly, federal social policy requiring work backed by sanctions and time limits while granting states the flexibility to design their own work programs produced better results than the previous policy of providing welfare benefits while expecting little in return." read more at http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/federalbenefitprograms/a/welfarereform.htm |
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Welfare recipients are already imprisoned in plain sight. Doesn't matter if there are bars or not. I'm sorry folks but I have to get in on this one. Imprisoned in plain sight, hummm? Why are they not in college to push for a better education? I did. And come to take note of it...going back to get some more. For the people who are in the lower income brackets more help for them is available than for someone who is in the middle income bracket. And if they are so poor, why don't they do something about? If they are truly hungry...they WILL do something about it. |
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PS People should not have kids if they cannot afford to. SO THERE! My hero!  For the love of Pete, ladies keep your knees together if you can't afford to pay for the consequences. And why do we have to pay for another woman getting knocked up? Two children, raised them myself. NEVER been on welfare and I was raised in one of the poorest portions of the country.
So amen. |
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You can sure see all the prejudice against the poor people of this county by what they say. First untruth=all poor people are lazy Second untruth=all poor people are criminals Third untruth, and a really stupid one= all poor people try to make other mouths to feed to get more money from the government
All poor people are just like all non poor people, they just have less or no money. That is the only difference. To classify them as lazy breeding criminals is really a sick ideology. It is an untrue hate tactic. Hatemongering. Obviously, you've never been to LA or Detroit. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 09/02/10 01:05 AM
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PS People should not have kids if they cannot afford to. SO THERE! My hero! For the love of Pete, ladies keep your knees together if you can't afford to pay for the consequences. And why do we have to pay for another woman getting knocked up? Two children, raised them myself. NEVER been on welfare and I was raised in one of the poorest portions of the country.
So amen. Im sorry, but welfare is paid for with the taxes that those POOR people pay just like what everyone else pays,, and if people need some of that tax money BACK to get through hard times,, so what everyones situation isnt the same,,,some people have support systems in their family, some amongst friends, some have to rely on other sources going to college may pay bills IN THE FUTURE , but it does nothing to provide food and shelter in the PRESENT,, my son goes to college, I am unemployed, and he STILL had to come up with a few thousand to cover the difference of what financial aid wouldnt,,, and while I do agree getting an education doesnt hurt, it certainly does nothing to feed and clothe and shelter an individual until much further down the line,,, |
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PS People should not have kids if they cannot afford to. SO THERE! My hero! For the love of Pete, ladies keep your knees together if you can't afford to pay for the consequences. And why do we have to pay for another woman getting knocked up? Two children, raised them myself. NEVER been on welfare and I was raised in one of the poorest portions of the country.
So amen. Im sorry, but welfare is paid for with the taxes that those POOR people pay just like what everyone else pays,, and if people need some of that tax money BACK to get through hard times,, so what everyones situation isnt the same,,,some people have support systems in their family, some amongst friends, some have to rely on other sources going to college may pay bills IN THE FUTURE , but it does nothing to provide food and shelter in the PRESENT,, my son goes to college, I am unemployed, and he STILL had to come up with a few thousand to cover the difference of what financial aid wouldnt,,, and while I do agree getting an education doesnt hurt, it certainly does nothing to feed and clothe and shelter an individual until much further down the line,,, There is a HUGE difference! What about the rebates? The size of the tax refund? Middle class don't get that back. Most of us DO NOT have "support systems". Never had. And NEVER been on welfare or food stamps. I worked a full time job and carried 22 hours in school and made a 4.0 GPA. Good for your son! At least the boy as some kind of drive. I respect the young man. Now, why don't you have a job? I have no pride when it comes to supporting my daughter and showing her the right way to live her life by example. I will clean horse stalls if I have to. And education does help right now with feeding and clothing a body. There isn't a place that won't hire a college student...summer jobs? They love the college student because in most cases, they are your son...trying to work through school. |
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You can sure see all the prejudice against the poor people of this county by what they say. First untruth=all poor people are lazy Second untruth=all poor people are criminals Third untruth, and a really stupid one= all poor people try to make other mouths to feed to get more money from the government
All poor people are just like all non poor people, they just have less or no money. That is the only difference. To classify them as lazy breeding criminals is really a sick ideology. It is an untrue hate tactic. Hatemongering. Obviously, you've never been to LA or Detroit. Minneapolis, Oklahoma City, Denver (horrible there), Houston, any of those either? |
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I love how people say 'get a job' like its a onesided thing like 'take a bath'...lol sure Ill go out there and grab up one of those millions of paychecks floating around http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_wel_cas_tot_rec-economy-welfare-caseloads-total-recipients five million currently on welfare for those poor with numbers, thats a little over 1% of the population now,, if there are five unemployed per job opening currently, that means that only 20 percent of those looking have a job to just 'get' and then, there is the minor detail of competition and educational and experience REQUIREMENTS.. oh , lets not forget little facts such as how the system is set up for at least 5% to be unemployed and how the majority on welfare are single moms trying to raise their children best they can because of FATHERS who do squat(where is the outrage from the public about THAT) or how welfare families have the same average number of children as anyone else or how small a part of the budget welfare for children is compared to welfare to corporations and big business I dont condone laziness, but i dont condone broad assumptions and character judgements about how lazy or unwilling to work people are who dont happen to have traditional income You do not know the people I know. You evidently have not seen what I have seen. There is work out there but I have physically been present to "That job is beneath me, I won't do it," and "But I would have to take less pay. I am better off on unemployment." I see and hear so much about what people will not do. Hell, I got a friend who very well may be going to jail tonight for stealing from his own family and other friends I know and I was the one caught in the middle. Time and time again the slacker got jobs HANDED to him and he quits the next day becasue f every excuse under the sun and he blames everyone else. He is like millions of Americans of all colors who refuse to take responsibility for themselves. I resent getting sucked into this drama but hey, someone has to help rehabilitate the mess a friend of mine cause for every on e else around him. No one wants to be poor but how many of them are willing to do what it takes to not be poor. I am doing work I do not want to do but my bills don't pay themselves. This is America and I don't buy this whole "Poor People" BS. Either you spine up and get a job or quit bitching about how unfair life is. LIFE IS UNFAIR! People keep each other and themselves down. I am so sick and tired of all the excuses and finger pointing. in every direction other than to the source of the real problem, American's lack of personal accountability! Poor people! FASH! I bust *** to make $20K a year and I can BARELY keep up at all! And yet am I here whining about where my welfare is? HELL NO. If you are poor, GET A JOB! Got a job that sucks? Look for a better job and quit whining! Need training to get a better job? GO TO SCHOOL AND OPEN THE DAMN BOOKS THIS TIME! THERE ARE LOTS OF GRANT PROGRAMS TO HELP OUT! Oh but making a life takes effort and sometimes the effort needed is greater than many are willing to give. People need to GROW UP! Thank you very much! I am a nurse, you know what I do for a living? I specialize in the 3 Ps....Pee, Poo, and Puke. And you know...I don't mind it at all...you know why? I'm working and when I go get that little girl I know she is watching me. She learns how to live her life by my example. To me, there is NO greater responsibility than that. One of the main reasons I chose nursing is because I knew I would always be able to find a job. But then again, we come back to the drive to paddle your own canoe. Competition is part of the game..quit moaning. Learn better interviewing skills, and get yourself back into school if you can't find a job in your field. And take anything they throw at you to earn a living while you are doing it. As I've said in another post...I have no pride when it comes to the blue eyes of that little girl. And something else too...no matter what society says...you get prego, you raise the child (with a very few exceptions). If he buggers out...who raises the child? The woman does. Reality check! So if you can't afford to raise the child...keep your knees together. Another crock of crap that just smokes me..."It takes a village to raise a child." That is the lies I have ever heard. It takes a loving parent, with drive (no laziness allowed) and a devotion to the child BEFORE conception. To raise the child. So those of you who are on welfare...I am going to offend right here. (Never have believed in the "Politically Correct" either. Grow a skin for the love of Pete!)GET A JOB! And you should be ashamed of yourself, a single mother can paddle her own canoe, why can't you? Get off your butts and be part of the solution and not the problem. Think of all the kids who could go to college and not have to worry about having a job too. Just get the grades. You lazy outfits! GET UP! Find something...hell anything to earn a living. |
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Edited by
willing2
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Thu 09/02/10 07:30 AM
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Apologize for posting here. Reaction. Please excuse the accident.
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PS People should not have kids if they cannot afford to. SO THERE! Wouldnt it be a wonderful planet if everything went according to plan and only when scheduled 
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Both my girls were a surprise, My 1st was when I was on B/C and very young! fun wow...My second was after surviving cancer and being told I couldnt have any more children...Surprise! However in retrospect I wouldnt change a thing....Life is messy...live it!
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And really Im throwing down the glove...I dare anyone of you to look back over your own life and tell me how life fitted neatly into your timetable!! PLEASE!!!!
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steralization is different than birth control and good for you for taking care of you and yours. And you know what else??? your bloody scary you are!! WTF???? 
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PS People should not have kids if they cannot afford to. SO THERE! Wouldnt it be a wonderful planet if everything went according to plan and only when scheduled
Abortion! There! I am so sick of the BULL**** Logic people go by to justify the needs of "the poor." Now Msharmony, The poor pay taxes? Really? Since when? Sales tax? How about income tax? In the raw numbers below a certain percentage they don't pay taxes if they even file. Do you think that fuque with the "Homeless and Hungry" sign pays any taxes? The middle class and the rich pay most of the tax burden. Please don't try to feed me that twisted logic! I spelled it out. People need to grow a spine or slink off like jellyfish. I am so sick and tired of all this coddling of all these "hurt, innocent, victims" of a cruel and heartless system. I am sick and tired of lazy azzholes constantly making excuses and trying to make the rest of us pay their way and their living. I should not have to support someone else's kids! |
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PS People should not have kids if they cannot afford to. SO THERE! My hero! For the love of Pete, ladies keep your knees together if you can't afford to pay for the consequences. And why do we have to pay for another woman getting knocked up? Two children, raised them myself. NEVER been on welfare and I was raised in one of the poorest portions of the country.
So amen. Im sorry, but welfare is paid for with the taxes that those POOR people pay just like what everyone else pays,, and if people need some of that tax money BACK to get through hard times,, so what everyones situation isnt the same,,,some people have support systems in their family, some amongst friends, some have to rely on other sources going to college may pay bills IN THE FUTURE , but it does nothing to provide food and shelter in the PRESENT,, my son goes to college, I am unemployed, and he STILL had to come up with a few thousand to cover the difference of what financial aid wouldnt,,, and while I do agree getting an education doesnt hurt, it certainly does nothing to feed and clothe and shelter an individual until much further down the line,,, There is a HUGE difference! What about the rebates? The size of the tax refund? Middle class don't get that back. Most of us DO NOT have "support systems". Never had. And NEVER been on welfare or food stamps. I worked a full time job and carried 22 hours in school and made a 4.0 GPA. Good for your son! At least the boy as some kind of drive. I respect the young man. Now, why don't you have a job? I have no pride when it comes to supporting my daughter and showing her the right way to live her life by example. I will clean horse stalls if I have to. And education does help right now with feeding and clothing a body. There isn't a place that won't hire a college student...summer jobs? They love the college student because in most cases, they are your son...trying to work through school. as I said before, college doesnt pay bills, employment does most of the people on welfare are NOT college students or college student AGED,,,,,all those places that love college students are hiring college AGED students(Who are easily manipulated and controlled) Why dont I have a job,,? have you heard about what the economy is doing? I have had a job since I was 18, until LAST year when I was let go due to cutbacks at the company, so dont be so quick to take the condescending attitude. My children have ALWAYS seen me go to work with the exception of this last year and the reason is there is NOONE hiring in my area for my skill set. my daughter sees her mom WORK, taking care of her and our home, and she will see her mom going to a JOB again too,, but right now, I have paid taxes for the past 22 years and I need a little of my own investment to get through a rough time |
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