of course I am


we are right to attack because of those murdered on 9/11

they are WRONG to attack because of those killed in places like lebanon, or displaced in places like israel


we are RIGHT to spread muslim hatred considering muslim extremists record of carnage


they are WRONG to spread any type of western hatred considering westerners have no such record of carnage,,,


I am wrong, peace and humanity is wrong, war and winning is right,,,,

I got it

we've always been siding with the jews, and the muslims hate jews. one of the main reason they did the terrorist acts was because we are in league with the jews. the terrorist groups are expanding, and they are probably here in our country already. can you pick out a terrorist in a group of muslims? i can't, not till he does something stupid. ask any soldier, the terrorist will come up to ya smileing, wanting to shake your hand, then do something like blowing themselves up to just to kill everyone around them. untill the radicals are separated from the true muslims, i don't trust any of them.

no...what you are suggesting is that we should not have fought hitler........Osama is the hitler of the middle east. Ya,,,,,let hitler take power because war is wrong and that crap in lebanon...If I'm attacked....with means of war....I retaliate. Like I said mam.... I deeply wish that your views could come to life. I really do! And I also said that your compassion and desire for peace is admirable! unfortunatly the world today...and this situation isn't sunshine and rainbows. It's blood. now i dont believe in any religion...at all!!! but whether I like it or not....it's here and it's strong....but like I said...the difference in the ways of life between us and them are huge...so big they are almost impossible to compare....our death penalties involve lethal injection which is painless...and the electric chair...maybe the odd firing squad...but no stoning, no raping of woman, and no PUBLIC executions. I understand where you are comming from on your hypocrisy comment, but look at the levels of which these are enforced.

We had the right to stop hitler from killing jews, because killing is wrong,, what we didnt have the right to do is invade IRAQ because 16 people from AFghanistan were successful in killing thousands of americans

I am no more sure of your sentiment towards muslims than you are about mine, and these posts are not personal to you

what I am detesting is that people are lumping BILLIONS of people together because of the actions of a few.. that is quite a bit different than going after one Mans personal army set on terminating an entire race

that was preventing an atrocity, in the making


this is just an ongoing tit for tat over religious and political affiliations

First of all...hitler wanted to kill everyone that opposed him...It just so happened he started with the jews. He only allied with the Empire of Japan because he had no choice. He broke his treaty with russian and was fighting on our atlantic coasts, North Africa, and both east and western europe. We have a right to stop hitler but not sadaam or osama??? you spoke of hypocrisy earlier...what do you suppose that is?? We fight against terony...Hitler, osama and sadaam alike. What you are saying is that we made germany pay for the actions of a few hundred leaders and politians...that's ok??, but this isn't??? It's the same thing dear just on a smaller scale. Let me give you an example. This is like a man sleeping with another mans wife, then suggesting that they can all live under the same roof together afterwards.. Let us pretend that the towers was our wife.....what did they do to her?? How did they destroy her innocence and physical presence??? Simple!! the same way Hitler did. We are responsible for what our govts do...so are they. Every man, and woman must be held accountable for the words of their voice, the decisions of their mind and will, and the actions of their bodies. This is why they are being fought. Whether it's right or wrong doesn't matter. You feel very strongly about your logic yet you dont employ it to these other topics.

and these posts are personal to me...note my profession. I've been shot 3 times and had metal fragments from an rpg smoke me to defend our continent. It honestly does hurt all of us soldiers to hear that people just don't get what is actually happening....and the price we are paying to ensure the safety of all of us. It just so happens that this time around, it is enemies of muslim decent. In korea and vietnam, it was bhudism..It isnt the religion, it never was, its the actions they commit in the name of their religion.

what I am detesting is that people are lumping BILLIONS of people together because of the actions of a few.. that is quite a bit different than going after one Mans personal army set on terminating an entire race



muslims number in the BILLIONS and they are not my enemy or the enemy of the west because of what SOME of them have done,,,

as for afghanistan, those people by and large AGREE and CHOOSE to live under the laws which they live under, just like we do

its not our business to tell them they have to be like us and do otherwise

we have our justice system and its likewise not the business of anyone outside of the system to insist upon how americans should chose to run it,,,

what you need to ask yourself is what have the remainder of these billions have done to try and help us?? The actions of these "few" have not been punished by any of them. They are not searching for osama, they dont give a crap!! If we saw some effort it might be a different story. They don't even have the gull to control their govt.. what you need to understand is these people ARE trying to exterminate us. Their bible says it, their leaders say it, and the terrorists say it. I want the killing to stop too, but not at our expense. Christians make up one sixth of the worlds population, as do the muslims, so do the math, there are just as many of us, we are just spread out over a much wider area, which is a tactical advantage. And lucky us...they couldn't beat us if they tried. But they are nevertheless.

and they don't have a choice....these extremists rule with an iron fist. You speak against them you die. Who in the name of Zeuss's a$$ would choose that. Why do you think Afghan and Iraqi kids, men and women cheer us....are you not aware that they know they need us???? If you are being honest about wanting the killing to stop the the world needs to be rid of the killers first. Stop the killing but let the killers run rampant?? come on now.

what percentage of these poeple are the bad ones? 1% of a billion is still a million....

here here

Attempting to reason with those who do not seek reason ... commendable, but ultimately useless ...

Bravo Zulu again, eklectek ...

cheers brother. I do understand her desires for peace, but throughout history, there needs to be a victor first. I dunno bout everyone else but I want the victor to be us.

Reason is completely overlooked by people trying to placate their idealism!

Idealistically we should not need police. Idealistically war should not exist.

Also Israel dos a lot of fighting. 90% of the time they are attacked first and Israel retaliates with military force. There is a reason why Israel occupies Gaza. becasue Islamic mounted artillery attacks from that location on three separate occasions. The Seven Day war Egypt preemptively attacked Israel on their sabbath! Had we not have supplied Egypt the surveillance photos we did they would have not backed off and would have gotten slammed by at least 30 Kiloton class nuclear armed Jerico 1 Missiles. When Israel preemptively strikes they have damn good reason to 99% of the time.

Also Peace for the sake of Peace is suicidal! ESPECIALLY IN THE FACE OF A RELIGION THAT HAS DECLARED HOLY WAR AGAINST THE REST OF US WHO ARE NOT ISLAMIC!

Now for religious tolerance. Well, opium Addiction comes to mind. Get all doped up on God and feels good "love thy neighbor" crap. Those of you wishing to be tolerant of their religion GO LIVE THERE! Stay six months and come back and tell me how wonderful they are. many friends of mine who served feel nuking them into oblivion would be better than putting up with their BS! We try to elevate them and they spit in our faces. Granted the Oil grab doesn't help but they have repeatedly sandbagged our efforts for what? they are two faced liars to the last one. the ones who are not have fled here and became Americans becasue they hate their own homeland and feel we should let it all BURN instead of wasting the energy trying to help people who do not really want the help. They are all fuqued op on placating Allah and punishing each other for even the most trivial BS!

Islam either changes or Islam should and shall burn!

the flaw in the logic is seperating religion from government,, hwo many western citizens are doing anything to look for OSAMA?

they dont have the freedom or the resources of the western world , they dont have the same options to 'help' that we speak of

Your last sentence is what will happen.

Islam is doomed to the pits of hell.

However, not before millions of barrels of blood is spilled and the Temple of Solomon is rebuilt.

they dont have the resources??? OIL, NATURAL GAS, IRON ORE,sand for brick, igneous rock and granite.......no resources??? wow, they have more than you could imagine my dear...how do you think sadaam funded his 14 palaces??? osama gets funding through opium.....no resources?? you are misinformed. they may not have what we do, but they certainly have the technology and know how to high jack planes and beat airport security....that takes resources and planning if you ask me...

100%

some people just can't grasp this huh...

Hpocrisy????One may being excuted who had a fair trail,was found guilty and was executed is somehow relevant to a hundred innocent people blown to pieces on a daily basis for no other reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time?The two are totally different.

I posted this somewhere earlier but I think we need to take another look at who is driving terrorism around the world.That answer is Islam.Islam is the problem and millions around the world are involved including entire countries.


http://www.travelersdigest.com/terrorism_hot_spots.htm


This is a compiling of the countries most affected by acts of terrorism, the information is compiled from various sources & refers to data from actual incidents in a one year sample time frame.

20. Italy
While not having had the extravagant cases of terrorism as some of the other countries mentioned, Italy is still very much at the forefront of a growing problem. A large discontented population & controversial immigration policies have led to the country's inclusion in this ranking.

19. Spain
The Madrid bombings highlighted what has been a growing problem for years, unchecked immigration from Northern Africa into what's becoming a polarized society. However overlooking the threat from Islamic extremism, Spain still has problems a plenty with the ever present Basque separatist movement known as ETA.

18. United States
The United States is home to what are a good portion of the world's high profile terrorist targets, & it's every extremist's dream to strike at the heart of America. However doing so has been less easy than to some of the nation's counterparts on this list.

17. Sri Lanka
The island has been the home of a civil war for the last 25 years or so, however a cease fire agreement brokered in 2001 provided hope that the violence would one day end. Things did not turn out so well, & renewed hostilities between the Tamil Tigers & the Sri Lankan government forces have claimed the lives of over 4,000 people since the agreement fell apart in 2005.

16. Indonesia
Home to the world's largest Muslim population & a government that facilitates the American "War on Terrorism" is a melting pot of disaster as highlighted by the increasing violence.

15. Saudi Arabia
The centre of the Islamic world, Saudi Arabia is also at the height of the global terrorism threat. An unpopular monarchy & an alienated population make oil derricks seem like much more appealing targets than they otherwise would have been.

14. United Kingdom
In what one could say is the first world country most afflicted by terrorism, the United Kingdom comes in at number 14 on the list. The difference between the UK & other first world countries such as the United States is that its terrorism threat is largely home grown, & boasting a large disenfranchised immigrant population, while having a controversial foreign policy is a sure fire way to get a high placement on the terrorism index. What may be most surprising is that its ranked above Saudi Arabia, that's surely how you know a country is doing something wrong.

13. Colombia
The drug cartels, rampant criminal gangs, & leftist rebels are the reason Colombia is featured here. Kidnappings, assaults, shootings, & bombings are all common features on their domestic landscape.

12. Philippines
The long going Islamic separatist war in the south shows no sign of slowing, & tourists remain a prime target in their war for political freedom.

11. Algeria
This country has been plagued by civil war since the early 90's when the military backed government scrapped a parliamentary election that an Islamist political party was set to dominate. Since then it's been all bombs & bullets with the two sides waging a bloody campaign against the other leaving over 200,000 people dead. Things have recently taken a turn for the worse when the long thought declining insurgency re-invented itself which among other things included changing it's name to Al Qaeda in Africa & enlarging focus to waging the global jihad against Western culture & its believed encroachment on puritanical Islamic society.

10. Turkey
Turkey is suffering from a growing anti-Western sentiment, & it's starting to affect their tourism trade, with high profile targets having been previously attacked.

9. Bangladesh
There are two ways to look at Bangladesh's placement on this list, it's either the 9th most highly terrorized country, or it's one of the safer places on the Indian sub-continent.

8. Thailand
A military coup, a new government, a deposed prime minister, an Islamic insurgency, & an increase in military spending are all things that do not bode well for Thailand.

7. Afghanistan
While the country hasn't truly been terrorism free for the majority of its modern history, recent times have been even more unkind. Following a short grace period after the American occupation, Afghans are now facing a resurgent Taliban uprising that threatens to envelop their struggling government in an ever more vicious cycle of violence.

6. Pakistan
Pakistan seems to be the epicentre of Al Qaeda, with the majority of its known & captured hierarchy having been caught inside the nation. That & a very unpopular government regime make Pakistan's interior targets quite appealing to the terrorist set.

5. Russia
The ongoing conflict in Chechnya has made Russia a prime target for terrorism since the resurgent outbreak of violence began in 1999. With no solution to the conflict in sight, Russia looks to remain on this list for the foreseeable future.

4. Nepal
Here unlike the majority of the other nations mentioned on this list, the terrorism stems from a completely domestic conflict wholly uninvolved from the global Muslim extremist movement. In Nepal it's the government's conflict with the Marxist rebels that provides fuel to the fire. The future does however look bright with a series of cease fires being agreed to as we start 2007.

3. India
The country's predominantly Hindu population & its 300 million strong Muslim minority continue to openly spar in acts of aggression spurred largely by the country's feud with rival Pakistan over the disputed province of Kashmir.

2. Israel/Palestine
While the "Second Intifada" has mostly died down, Israelis still have to worry about the Northern threat of Hezbollah, & in the territories the burgeoning conflict between Hamas & Fatah continue to provide acts of terrorism which place the combined two localities at near the height of this list.

1. Iraq
No big surprise here, Iraq has & continues to be the world's hotspot for terrorism in the four years since the American invasion & subsequent occupation of the country. And that is just one way to not build a nation.