So what's illegal sex to Muslims? It's ok to Beat, have sex with, enslave, sell, capture, rape and torture women and children. All of that is illegal, so what in ther twisted definition is illlegal?

people continually make assumptions about what others believe and condone


governments make laws, cultures live by those laws

muslims live in several different cultures, with several different laws

people continually make assumptions about what others believe and condone


governments make laws, cultures live by those laws

muslims live in several different cultures, with several different laws

Yea, like beating women and children, selling women and children, raping women and children, having sex with girls and boys as young as 7 or 8, stoning people to death. I can keep going if you want.

That is not acceptable in ANY culture.

"Show forgiveness, enjoin what is good, and turn away from the foolish." (Al-A`raaf 7:199)


http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm


I will never agree with painting a whole group/religion/race with the broad brush of what but a few of them have done,,,

Is it really any different when a peaceful Islamic answers "Gods Call" and decides to finally act? Now for every how many peaceful Islamics are there for every not so peaceful Islamic? Does that compare to a Hollywood Jew who is a convert and not really Jewish by blood? True Jews are traced by their bloodline. Hasidic Jews are likewise nobodies friends including other Jews. So we hate all Jews just becasue Hasidic Jews are Isolationists and also Chosen of God? They don't seem to cause a lot of trouble here. Now wanting to colonize Jerusalem? Well, that's Palestine's Tar Baby. In all reality Jerusalem needs to be an independent City State like the Vatican. That way nobody has a reason to fight over it. BUT NO! ISLAM WANTS IT BACK TOO AS WELL AS THE WHOLE FRIKKEN WORLD! No, I got way too many Jewish friends and clients to fear them as much as Islamics who keep to themselves except for the rare few who actually are social. Some Islamics would love to paint a more peaceful picture of Islam but they can't and they are forced to live a duplicitous life. I feel sorry for the people who want to live outside of the influence of Islam but suffer for making a free choice like young lovers wishing to decide to marry when it is their choice and not their parent's. How about the children forced into child bride marriages to lecherous old perverts wanting to pop young cherries? So that is acceptable? It is just a cultural thing?

Here is a little History! Islam pre 1200 was WAY different. Saudi Arabia back then was not like we know it today. Not in any way. Back when Europe was finally coming out of the dark ages for real with things like the signing of the Magna Carta heralding in "Civil Rights" in the face of a Feudal system Arabia was a collection of provinces ruled by Sheiks while a king sat on the throne in both Jerusalem and Mecca. In those days Arabs were all about Math, Science, Medicine, Dancing, Art, as well as many other things we would view as 'enlightened culture' such as daily bathing. Arabs were the ones who came up with Algebra and the number system we use today. Then something changed. Islam was no longer separated from rule. Where Sheiks and the king did not answer to Islam suddenly their rulers got sucked into fearing their particular flavor of God and then they dove into their own dark ages.

It wasn't until the need for oil in WWII began to bring the middle east back into the fold of society. Islam became divided and they ravaged themselves. With post WWII came a limited exposure to the "western world" but enough to not incite any real problems except one, the presence of Jews in the Holy Land (Israel). The Hebrews have a longer history in the area than the Arabs. Yet because the Jews are not Islamics the Arabs naturally hate them. Now granted the three crusades would have happened anyways considering the Catholic (Roman) empire wanted their land back as well. At least with Rome they were allowed to practice their religion as long as they respected Rome which they had no choice anyways. But as long as they paid their taxes Rome tolerated them as a subjugated people/ citizens of Rome. EVRYONE wants the holy lands. Frankly it is a matter of time when some stupid Islamic azzhole tries to launch some kind of Nuclear attack on Israel and they have Jericho II and Jericho III missiles armed with nukes. Once they get nuked it is so on. I bet Mecca is a target.

How bad do you think it will be if Israel and Mecca get nuked? Want to talk about holy war then?

The only way out is for Islam to renounce the Quar-an and evolve their faith to be tolerant of others. They need a New Way. They way they are choosing now will only lead to more blood shed. This is something that is serious enough that Islamics really wanting peace really need to start policing their own and ending their "Fundamentalist's" Terror attacks. Both sides want this war though. That is the even sicker thing.

Yeah, one verse out of a litany of other passages that express more than draconian punishments for shart that is not as much of a sin as anyone would paint them to be! My wife gets mad at me so Mohammad tells me to strike her down. If I want I can whip her and I am to leave stripes?

You have never been whipped. I have (and the person who nailed me got a 2 x 4 upside his head). It hurts like hell. Even getting swacked by a willow switch stings like all fuque. I seen the Wife Beater video done by some Islamic nut job group. The man doing the punishment was not putting any arm into it intentionally. Do you know how hard you must hit someone to leave a mark? You actually got to hit them pretty damn hard.

Now it is legal in some armpit of a hole called something-izacstan or Kenya where I buy a child bride at nine years old and who boy, I get to enjoy some Pedophilia? Many cultures historically married girls off at twelve years old. Now that age is a little eyebrow raising but at last a girls pu$$y is beginning to get to where it is usable as in sexual maturity. Not a Nine Year old where her body is still not ready for anything. And worst is the child has no choice in the matter. She cannot say no. How is that "culturally acceptable?"

There are times when two ideals come together and one must give way to the other. If neither ideal can adapt (and Christianity has done a lot of that over the years at least) then the inevitable outcome is conflict (WAR). Worst is not they have a religious declaration of war against us. So now we need to be tolerant and show mercy to an enemy that has none?

Islam needs to change or Islam must die!

They need to show us in the very scriptures they worship they have seen a new light. One where God's children can chose to worship as they see fit without paying Dimmi to them. One where Infidels are forgiven as long as they do not do harm. I have no issue with anyone defending themselves. Right now the "contract" Isslam has for me is death. I will not bow to them. I will not kneel to Allah or God or anyone! When they become a problem in my home land and threaten me I will fight them and I will not be gray about it. Shoot to kill. Kill them all.

Do you have any idea how revenge oriented their very religion is? It is the ultimate in Victim Complex!

Thomas.....You served didn't you....call it a hunch. You have a sense of what's happening that most people don't. OOOOORAHHH!!

You call the 300 million plus who believe in this death and destruction a few?

These countries still practice Sharia law

Iran
Pakistan
Saudi Arabi
Nigeria
Sudan
Iraq (prior to 2003)
Egypt
Buhrain
Azerbaijan

Is it any surprise the countries with the worst terrorism are all nearly related to Islam.

Sorry for the Christian haters out there Christians didn't make the top 20 list.

http://www.travelersdigest.com/terrorism_hot_spots.htm

Countries Most Afflicted by Terrorism
This is a compiling of the countries most affected by acts of terrorism, the information is compiled from various sources & refers to data from actual incidents in a one year sample time frame.

20. Italy
While not having had the extravagant cases of terrorism as some of the other countries mentioned, Italy is still very much at the forefront of a growing problem. A large discontented population & controversial immigration policies have led to the country's inclusion in this ranking.

19. Spain
The Madrid bombings highlighted what has been a growing problem for years, unchecked immigration from Northern Africa into what's becoming a polarized society. However overlooking the threat from Islamic extremism, Spain still has problems a plenty with the ever present Basque separatist movement known as ETA.

18. United States
The United States is home to what are a good portion of the world's high profile terrorist targets, & it's every extremist's dream to strike at the heart of America. However doing so has been less easy than to some of the nation's counterparts on this list.

17. Sri Lanka
The island has been the home of a civil war for the last 25 years or so, however a cease fire agreement brokered in 2001 provided hope that the violence would one day end. Things did not turn out so well, & renewed hostilities between the Tamil Tigers & the Sri Lankan government forces have claimed the lives of over 4,000 people since the agreement fell apart in 2005.

16. Indonesia
Home to the world's largest Muslim population & a government that facilitates the American "War on Terrorism" is a melting pot of disaster as highlighted by the increasing violence.

15. Saudi Arabia
The centre of the Islamic world, Saudi Arabia is also at the height of the global terrorism threat. An unpopular monarchy & an alienated population make oil derricks seem like much more appealing targets than they otherwise would have been.

14. United Kingdom
In what one could say is the first world country most afflicted by terrorism, the United Kingdom comes in at number 14 on the list. The difference between the UK & other first world countries such as the United States is that its terrorism threat is largely home grown, & boasting a large disenfranchised immigrant population, while having a controversial foreign policy is a sure fire way to get a high placement on the terrorism index. What may be most surprising is that its ranked above Saudi Arabia, that's surely how you know a country is doing something wrong.

13. Colombia
The drug cartels, rampant criminal gangs, & leftist rebels are the reason Colombia is featured here. Kidnappings, assaults, shootings, & bombings are all common features on their domestic landscape.

12. Philippines
The long going Islamic separatist war in the south shows no sign of slowing, & tourists remain a prime target in their war for political freedom.

11. Algeria
This country has been plagued by civil war since the early 90's when the military backed government scrapped a parliamentary election that an Islamist political party was set to dominate. Since then it's been all bombs & bullets with the two sides waging a bloody campaign against the other leaving over 200,000 people dead. Things have recently taken a turn for the worse when the long thought declining insurgency re-invented itself which among other things included changing it's name to Al Qaeda in Africa & enlarging focus to waging the global jihad against Western culture & its believed encroachment on puritanical Islamic society.

10. Turkey
Turkey is suffering from a growing anti-Western sentiment, & it's starting to affect their tourism trade, with high profile targets having been previously attacked.

9. Bangladesh
There are two ways to look at Bangladesh's placement on this list, it's either the 9th most highly terrorized country, or it's one of the safer places on the Indian sub-continent.

8. Thailand
A military coup, a new government, a deposed prime minister, an Islamic insurgency, & an increase in military spending are all things that do not bode well for Thailand.

7. Afghanistan
While the country hasn't truly been terrorism free for the majority of its modern history, recent times have been even more unkind. Following a short grace period after the American occupation, Afghans are now facing a resurgent Taliban uprising that threatens to envelop their struggling government in an ever more vicious cycle of violence.

6. Pakistan
Pakistan seems to be the epicentre of Al Qaeda, with the majority of its known & captured hierarchy having been caught inside the nation. That & a very unpopular government regime make Pakistan's interior targets quite appealing to the terrorist set.

5. Russia
The ongoing conflict in Chechnya has made Russia a prime target for terrorism since the resurgent outbreak of violence began in 1999. With no solution to the conflict in sight, Russia looks to remain on this list for the foreseeable future.

4. Nepal
Here unlike the majority of the other nations mentioned on this list, the terrorism stems from a completely domestic conflict wholly uninvolved from the global Muslim extremist movement. In Nepal it's the government's conflict with the Marxist rebels that provides fuel to the fire. The future does however look bright with a series of cease fires being agreed to as we start 2007.

3. India
The country's predominantly Hindu population & its 300 million strong Muslim minority continue to openly spar in acts of aggression spurred largely by the country's feud with rival Pakistan over the disputed province of Kashmir.

2. Israel/Palestine
While the "Second Intifada" has mostly died down, Israelis still have to worry about the Northern threat of Hezbollah, & in the territories the burgeoning conflict between Hamas & Fatah continue to provide acts of terrorism which place the combined two localities at near the height of this list.

1. Iraq
No big surprise here, Iraq has & continues to be the world's hotspot for terrorism in the four years since the American invasion & subsequent occupation of the country. And that is just one way to not build a nation.

I have served in the Navy as a Enlisted and later the Army as a contractor.I also plan on going into the reserves again in the near future but can't stomach the idea of serving under Obama.

Respect and honour my friend. Cheers!

You don't wanna salute the guy?

Cheers! I spent a great deal of time in Canada while I lived in Seattle.I even had a girlfriend in Manitoba.Canada is my home away from home.It reminds me of what America was 20 years ago.Don't let the great country of Canada go to pot like America has been going!

Iran and Saudi Arabia, the countries that have great human rights records. We need to distance ourselves as far from Saudi Arabia as possible and the the threat of a nuclear attack on Mecca and Media in response to ANY future terrorist attack on US soil.

Seriously everyday I want to sign that paper but I just can't stand the idea of serving under Obama.Just imagine how those secret service agents feel.How would you like to take a bullet for Obama?

I wouldn't take a bullet for him, probably why im not a Secret Service Agent.

I don't blame you. I will openly admit I never served in the military. I have bad authority issues. HOWEVER I fully appreciate the sacrifices made by those who do serve especially under the current administration. Obama has no balls for war like Jimmy Carter. He is castrating our military left and right. I so with he would spontaneously combust on TV.

I also see the problem maybe not exactly as you see it but you "Know" more about or enemy than many posters here. You are citing from more than just the Quar-an. This shows the depth of how insidious the enemy really is. It isn't any one country, it is an entire frikken religion. So we give up the strangle hold Christianity had on us to let Islam take over?

This is why I cannot join the military. I want to kill. I want to go in wholesale and slaughter our enemy and defile their bodies. I want to lay waste to their lands and what we don't take burn and leave nothing behind for them to eat or give them any comfort. I want to make war on them the way real war is meant to be fought. they hide in a village BURN IT ALL TO THE GROUND and kill them all no matter if they village is innocent or not. I want them to fear me a lot more than the Taliban. I want it so that when we come calling they have the Taliban staked out for us to defile them. I want to make POWs eat pork! I mean caulking gun and a tube time! I want to show Islam what war really is and I can't do that with a pu$$y of a president leading. That is my problem. I do not see war the same way many people do. I feel if you are going to make war make it total or don't step on to the battle field! This half hearted half azzed "police action" is raw BS! We should be pulling out of Iraq and right into Iran and chopping off the heads of the Ayatollahs!

America has descended into a second rate nation and Obama is dragging us down deeper!

very sad!

If nuked Israel WILL nuke those two cities! Bank on it!

Actually, I would salute Obama, i'd give him the one finger salute and end up court martialed.

From what I understand nothing is greater then dying a martyr in Islam and it is a great honor.Drop a few A-bombs right on Mecca and they can all go up in one great big ball of flame at the same time.They can have their honor and we can have peace.Kill two birds with one stone.Everyone is happy.

Israel will Nuke the entire Middle East if nuked.