Ummm, scripture-swappin' don't solve anything ...

The Seventh Century types still want us dead, and all the 'religious niceties' don't change that one damned bit ...

If the Christians,Atheist and the other religions wouldn't put up with this nonsense,stop supporting Islamic causes,and speak out against it then we wouldn't have to worry about it.France did a wonderful job by banning the Burqa in public places.

You may have your right to religion and your freedom to practice religion.But people have a right not to feel threatened by your form of religion that includes,terrorism,slavery,and threats of death and destruction.

True, but 'religion' has created more problems since it came into existence than it solved ... and that includes Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Catharism ... pick one ... any one ...

I don't want to get too off topic and I have debated this issue several times in the General religon chat and have showed who is responsible for the Wars and misery of this world through the centuries.

I can only speak for Christianity and I firmly believe that Christianity is the only thing keeping the peace in this world.Islam,buddhism,hinduism,Atheism has never done little if anything to make this world a better place.It was Christian nations that stopped World wars by other countries and it was largely Atheist dictators that started them.It is still Atheist and Islamic countries that are making this world a unsafe place and as usual the only people stopping them are the Christian nations and people.

It is Christian originations that run orphanages,feed the homeless,send medical aid and doctors overseas,give a place for homeless and battered women,feed the starving people all over the world,and hundreds more I can't think of.Check the internet for Atheist charites.You won't find any.

I do not sit with deceitful men, nor do I consort with hypocrites.,..


nuff said

people take parts of all religious books and pick and choose which parts define the religion


but all fall short, whatever book they are reading, and claiming christianity makes one no better than the next,

Matthew 22:35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

ALL laws and prophets hang on loving God with all they heart(same God which created muslims, jews, christians, atheists,,,)

and love they neighbor as thyself


I will leave the judging of PEOPLES to God, until then I will use judgement about the actions and words of INDIVIDUALS and GOVERNMENTS

while your sitting back and not judging, you've already been judged and found guilty of bring an infidel. just a matter of time before they start acting stupid over here too.

I judge actions and words, its the only way to make a decision about how to ACT or SPEAK myself,, I just dont think I can claim moral superiority over individuals if I have

A. never met them
B. been guilty of ANY types of wrong action or words myself

and

C. never been harmed by them

and it is precisely the POSSIBILITY that it could someday be me and my christianity being persecuted and judged which causes me to speak up on this topic,,,,,I hope it doesnt come to that, but reading how hateful and bigoted people can be, I know its always possible

,,

whatever your thinking about us being bigoted and hateful, the people we talking about are way worse. the moral superiority has already been decided by those same people.

Their laws are their laws and our laws are our laws......any Muslim living here would have to abide by the laws of the US as any other immigrant would........I do not have to live under their laws nor will I ever......I know where the jungles and woods are...

Who has the right to judge another?? I do not believe anyone has the right to judge another persons actions or speech in their lifetime........wasn't it Jesus that said let those that have not sinned cast the first stone? Did he, also, not say for those that judge other shall be judged all the harder in the after life? We all have paths, we all chose our own path and accept the negative and positive corresponding consequences of our action. Everything can seem so cut and dry from the outside looking in, but can be contradictory to the outside view. The decisions you think you would make may not always be the decision you make when walking in the those shoes. To love someone despite the life they lead can be a trust testament to the inner being of another. To have compassion when one lacks compassion for themselves, to show someone that they are lovable despite societal dictates and to lead and not wallow in quagmires you create but to rise above the negativity and give positivity to another is all I can ask for in this life.

Deuteronomy 22:20-1 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.

Exodus 35:2 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.

Deuteronomy 7:1-2 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.

Leviticus 25:44-45 Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.

seems like the Muslims are not the only ones holding the cornerstone on barbarism....let he who is without sin cast the first stone....

Now I want you to remember that no basstard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb basstard die for his country.

Now, an army is a team - it lives, eats, sleeps, fights as a team. This individuality stuff is a bunch of crap.

~ Gen. Geo. S. Patton

Karma is the universal principle and the great equalizer. Ignorance has become a karmic trap. They will continue to live in a hell of thier own making until they come to value human life. We cant change it. Only they can free themselves. While the rest of the planet progresses and evolves, They remain trapped in ignorance, unable to grow. How sad to waste this gift of life in such a manner.

Karma is the universal principle and the great equalizer. Ignorance has become a karmic trap. They will continue to live in a hell of thier own making until they come to value human life. We cant change it. Only they can free themselves. While the rest of the planet progresses and evolves, They remain trapped in ignorance, unable to grow. How sad to waste this gift of life in such a manner.

Bingo.

Now that unto itself is a jaded reply. Islam is violent by their own written tenants in the Quar-an. They outline all of their violence in text! They prescribe violent punishments in writing. They outline what to do to other not of their faith in writing.

Now you are trying to play both sides of the argument!

noone has a right to judge another (the individual, or the soul) but we all have a natural INSTINCT to judge actions and it makes no difference who is committing them. Thats called survival. If I see someone for instance, waving a gun around, I make a judgment about whether it may or may not be safe to go around them. In these threads people judge constantly what others do,, thats called opinions. They judge the passing of certain rights, they judge others opinions. Without judgement, which leads to making decisions, we are just robots. I know people like to say noone has a right to pass a judgement about anyone or anything but themself, but I feel that is an unrealistic egotistical sentiment that assumes nothing should matter to anyone except themself.

compassion and positivity are not traits which exclude judgment.

I dont judge PEOPLE, because I know none are perfect. But I do have judgment about right and wrong action and its universal, with the EXPECTATION that I will be judged the same way(which is no problem since I already JUDGE myself )

thank you...I know this about my own christian history, and while I am GLAD we moved forward from that, to believe others are EVIL for doing the same is to believe everyone in biblical times was EVIL as well. Its culture that dictates law, most cultures have a predominant religion.

not really, the question was jaded. perhaps I should have asked which 'violent religion' the pacifist should not support existing,,,,

I judge myself only and approach that man waving the gun.......he could be an actor playing a role.....and he may just need someone to listen.......might I die or get hurt.....yes there is the chance.....I see a guy waving a gun as a cry for help.........everyone needs an ear......